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Apparently suffering from a late evening craving for chicken wings, a 27-year-old Philadelphia man walked into a local WingStop restaurant just after 10:00 pm Sunday night, only to find a robbery in progress. An unidentified 53-year-old had pulled a gun and demanded all of the money in the joint.


“(He) walked in, went behind the counter, announced a robbery and asked for all the money,” said Philadelphia Police Department Chief Inspector Scott Small.

Before the three employees who were inside could comply with his demands, a customer walked in talking on his cell phone.

When the stick-up man pointed his gun at the hungry customer, who had a valid concealed carry license, the new arrival drew his own firearm and shot the robber once in the neck. The perp soon began to assume room temperature.

The customer, who does have a valid permit to carry a weapon, stayed on the scene and cooperated with police.

“We do have his weapon. We know that’s just one shot was fired from that customer because we found one spent shell casing on the floor on the customer side of the counter,” said Small.

Yet another successful defensive gun use — a crime in progress stopped — by a law-abiding gun owner. It’s almost as if this kind of thing happens regularly. Oh wait…it does.


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    • But, but, but….

      The future nuclear physicist was just about to turn his life around. He was a good boy, who just need some money for books and shoes.

      Everyone should have just complied with his demands. No one would have been hurt, victimless crime. Now a bright young man is dead. Dead I tell you. Such a tragic loss.


      • Just’a another din-do-nuff’n gets a snuff’n-stuff’n! A past of 53 years of crime, but he was such a “good baby boy” they’ll say who just ran out of time…….

        • Yup, just waiting for the photo when he was 12 years old in his Sunday-go-to-meeting suit.

  1. Why get chicken wings in Philly when you can get Rapa Scrapple, Taylor Porkroll, a soggy soft pretzel and a greezy Cheese steak instead?

        • And a lot of fun with a date (if ya know what I mean, wink-wink, nudge-nudge).

          Lots less messy than whipped cream or honey drizzled from a honey bear.

          What can we turn into a tasty treat? *snicker* 😉

        • whipcream goes sour cream fast.
          mixing cheez whiz with whiz cheese had never occurred to me.
          new depths of depravity, nutella with nuttaila, eh, la.

  2. And when the Liberal “Sanctuary City” crowd gets involved our Good Samaritan will probably go bankrupt defending himself and wind up doing 5 years for intentional manslaughter or some such crap… They “HAVE” his gun? Why?…

    • Why…because it is now considered “Evidence”.

      It warms the cockles of my heart to see another deserving dirtbag get what he was asking for…accurate return fire.

      You would think that the Philly PD would photo the firearm, record the S/N, confirm ballistics and return it to the rightful owner posthaste…prolly not gonna happen that way. Hope he has access to a backup firearm while waiting for the PoPo.

      • Guns used in any incident are considered crime guns and they want dem thare illegal type guns off”The streets”
        Fortunately they also got another criminal off the streets too.

        • Not all crime guns are considered equal I guess.
          Usually when Fish and Game encounters a criminal act they photo the gun and hand it back to the owner with the summons. If you’re being a dick they’ll keep it. I doubt the defender in this situation was being a dick.

        • Usually when Fish and Game encounters a criminal act they photo the gun and hand it back to the owner with the summons.

          Big difference between hunting violations and Philly shootings. Not a lot of game wardens in philly.

        • “Not a lot of game wardens in philly.”

          Game wardens, prison wardens. Same job, different prey… 😉

      • Any time a gun goes to evidence, IME, it’s minimum six months to get it back.

        The entire investigation has to be closed before they will release the firearm back to its owner. “Closed” meaning all paperwork related to the incident is completed with all T’s crossed and I’s dotted.

        When I had to do this this didn’t even inform me of progress. I just had to go ask the evidence room if I could have my pistol back or not once a month until they finally said “Oh, yeah, that investigation is complete you can have that back now”. And they wouldn’t let me bring a case into the station so they gave me the gun back in a paper bag which I then had to carry out of the building and across the street to a public parking area to case the gun. [I didn’t bother, just tossed the bag on the passenger seat and drove home.]

      • Old Guy is correct. The firearm is now booked into evidence. If/when the case is completed and the Good Samaritan is not charged, then he may get his property back.

        Another excellent reason why two is one, and one is none. Always have backups to your backups, and an extra gun in case you need to pull the trigger and end up losing possession of it.

        • Yeah, I buy carry guns 2 at a time, and modify the same. You take that one, I open the safe and have another on my hip absolutely identical. The concept that I might have *TWO* shootouts in one year is too remote to imagine, although I certainly would continue carrying, just in case.

        • “ou take that one, I open the safe and have another on my hip absolutely identical.”

          That makes sense.

          If you need to use it, you’re likely to be rattled after the fact, and that’s not a good time to learn a different manual-of-arms.

          Hell, I’d most likely immediately procure a third, in the off-chance I may need to use it again before the first one is released.

          A question for the TTAG chimps – any recommendations on a serviceable Gen-3 G17 slide that won’t break the bank? Or is it wiser to just stay with Glock OEM for reliability? This is for a Polymer 80 build…

        • Evidence? Of what value in a court would the firearm have. Was it found at a crime scene with no suspects. Is there a dispute in forensics on which firearm was used. Does the defendant deny he was the one who stopped the robbery and that was the weapon used?
          Evidently, right or wrong ,a person will lose their property to law enforcement, settings of submissional normals.

        • @Geoff

          I’ve had good luck with the Brownell’s branded G3 slides. They (used to) go on sale occasionally. Installed an Adams barrel (threaded) from CDNN. Slide and frame kits are straight Glock. Sights are MeproLight. Glock branded mags. If this is your first Poly80 build…be very careful drilling out the remaining 20%. A buddy was off an RCH on his pin holes and it was a PITA to correct.

    • That would be std op procedure until the investigation, incl. (considering the lefty radical DA there) any grand jury to which the matter may be referred. Assuming the facts expressed here are true and complete, a grand jury seems unlikely, esp. with the many witnesses (who should be grateful (for what that’s worth) and in any event will make it difficult For the DA to concoct an adverse set of facts which would be consistent to cast doubt on the shooter). So, always a risk especially with a commie DA, I nonetheless predict no charges and indeed no grand jury for the shooter. Getting his gun back will take considerable time, however, and there is no assurance it will have been well or even ok- taken care of, so the lesson is that even with a demonstrable legal shooting, the BS is only beginning; also, contrary to your natural instincts to customize your carry gun and spend big bucks to get it just so, if you ever use it as intended it may become a total loss, so keep that in mind. Maybe an equally competent and reliable but less costly gun would make sense, it’s only a tool after all (I know, this reality pains me too). And, before you shoot someone, become friends with a good lawyer who works in this area.

      • While I agree with what should happen, I recommend you don’t bet more on the outcome than you can afford to lose.

    • They have his gun because apparently it was used to KILL A HUMAN BEING! Duh. That kinda sorta makes it, you know, evidence?

      You know nothing about this case except what’s been reported here and possibly one other place. Forgive me for nit accepting without question the initial reporting of an incident. I’m sure even in the current defund police environment that Philly still has a homicide detective or two on the payroll to catch this case and investigate. Or would you just prefer we did away with due process altogether? Never mind the grand jury, we’ll just let Fox call the indictments or no bills from now on.

      I get it: it’s fun to cheer on the hero and mock the deceased villain, but let’s try not to be shocked that there is and should be an investigation. Governments taking shortcuts when people get killed doesn’t tend to turn out well.

  3. After we get constitutional Carry Nationwide, we should stop allowing them to take guns that were used and justifiable DGUs. Hopefully he has another one.

      • Nope…. they ain’t taking $ h I t of mine…. i’ll continue carrying my full size govt model 10mm DE…. you can entrust your life to a 400 dollar plastic wonder nine….. you’ll need all 17 rounds of your pea shooter….

    • “After we get constitutional Carry Nationwide,…”

      As pointed out by many here, we already have “constitutional Carry Nationwide”. It is covered in an enumerated right under our constitution. Hoping for mere legislation to somehow make the Second Amendment meaningful leaves us chasing hubcaps on passing cars. IF “constitutional Carry Nationwide” is enacted, it is only temporary….until the next legislature overturns it.

  4. 53 years old and just turning his life around.

    Phone guy had balls to draw on someone pointing a gun at him. Bet it was unloaded, a lot of crooks don’t load so.they won’t kill anyone. The threat is all they are using.

    • I always assume they’re unloaded so often just because there was no ammo nearby when they stole it.

    • we don’t know, and i agree, but pointed can be past tense. make a point, and then return to being pointed with the cashier.

    • “53 years old and just turning his life around.“. And his mamma keeps saying, he was a good boy. Don’t they always. I predict the dead perp has a record, possibly a long one. One more reason for No True Bill.

    • Haven’t seen anybody ask this one; shot him in the neck? From 3 feet? Nobody aims at the neck, did he miss the head from 3 feet, or the torso? Or maybe he tried to shoot him in the leg!

      • Likely was aiming for the head, and connected with the neck. When I first started shooting years back, I had a problem connecting on 5-yard shots. (A bit of instruction and ammunition cured that). Under stress, I can easily see missing a shot, even at close range…

  5. *guy on phone*
    “…yeah, I’m just gonna stop off here and pick up some chicken. You want me to gra…..hang on a sec..”
    “…so anyway, you want some wings?” 🤣

    One shot, right to the neck of a guy who’s already drawn. Nicely done Mr. Late night chicken wings…nice job!

  6. The gun’s in evidence and likely will be for several months at least.

    Hence why “budget” guns like Glocks and such are so popular. Some can’t afford better and those who can afford better usually realize that losing a high-end pistol to the cops for a long time sucks. They also recognize that evidence gets “lost” on a regular basis, which is to say that your Korth or Nighthawk stands a decent chance of ending up in someone else’s collection rather than being returned to you.

  7. Good idea not to carry one of your prized, expensive sidearms. Back in the early ’90s my legally carried gun was confiscated by town PD for what turned out be nothing in court. It took almost six months and the aid of a friend who’s a LEO. I fretted over it the whole time as the gun was (is) a prized S&W mod. 19 2.5″ Combat Magnum that I bought new in the ’70s. Expensive to replace even back then.
    I now carry a blue-worn, but mechanically sound, S&W mod. 36 that would be easy to replace and has no sentimental value to me. I’d still make every effort to get it back, but I wouldn’t fret about it.

  8. I hate it when these yoots skip the Thug 101 class and then get themselves killed. (Yoot is a legal term, I learned it watching My Cousin Vinnie.) They car jack ex-police officers, break into homes of active police detectives and can’t even rob a pizza joint. Apparently our educational system must really suck.

  9. The nicest thing about a Glock is, if you ever have to use it, and it is seized as evidence, you can easily and cheaply buy its identical twin.

    • Save the modified race guns for the range and competition. Inexpensive stock guns should be the EDC. Also a modified gun may be used as evidence against you as trying to make the gun more lethal.

  10. Let’s see, what’ll the liberals blame the poor boy’s death on. Gonna hafta be that damn second ammendment or chicken wings!?

  11. Went down as it should. When you choose to endanger someone’s safety, you just sacrificed your own. The dirtbag won’t be missed by society.

  12. The dead thief should have stuck to armed robbery at the Waffle House. Nobody ever gets shot there except the patrons.

  13. Armed citizen fires one shot, dead bad guy. The cops would have fired off 30 or 40 rounds and likely have just wounded the guy.

  14. You know, that’s just a damn shame! It’s a disgrace to turn a bad moment even worse by having COPS take your gun!

  15. Cell phone in one hand, pistol in the other and he almost makes the head shot! I can only imagine the end of that conversation: “Sorry honey, that bang you heard was me shooting the armed robber I walked in on. I won’t be home till late after I am done talking to the cops. You are on your own for dinner tonight.”

  16. Instead of the typical honor roll church attending student. He will be said to have suffered from early onset dementia and wasn’t aware of what he was doing so he isn’t responsible. Or possibly stealing to afford his medication. And don’t forget they will list his cause of death as COVID-9×19

    • Disagree. “Load More” and endless scrolling instead of pages is an abomination and the worst things to happen to web design. It endlessly increases browser resources, makes it hard to find old articles without searching (both because it makes it far slower to go through, and you can’t get to specific dates like you could with pages), and screws anyone who has to refresh, to leave or (for mobile) loses connection.

  17. So did he draw and then move and then shoot? Or did he move, draw, and shoot?

    Or perhaps he drew, shot, and then moved.

    Had he properly practiced his draw stroke with a double-unloaded gun with ammo placed in another state?

    Inquiring minds (and staff writers) wanna know. Was he worthy of defending himself with a firearm?

  18. The young man who shot the crook should get a citizens award for doing away with another scumbag.Just hope the anti police anti gun D.A Krasner does the right thing and does not seek to prosecute this young man for doing the right thing.Events like this is why I won’t go into Philadelphia any more or allow my wife to go without me.I have a concealed license in Pa.and Florida.If I have to ever go into Philadelphia again I to will be armed.

  19. Buy two. Carry one. Bury one. Ammo and firearms. Sh*t happens. Fire, tornados, riots,pandemic, government oppression, ect…….. Oh you took my gun and you want to search my house for others…… Sure, no problem. Knock yourself out. Never put all of your eggs in one basket. Just sayin.

    • So I picture some fella’ walking along carrying two baskets of eggs. A basket in each hand. Suddenly, a rapid dog is in front of him snarling and foaming at the mouth. Our intrepid Egg Transportation Specialist drops the basket on his strong side, does his bestest Val “Doc Holiday” Kilmer quick draw and solves the unhappy canine’s troubles.

      Whereupon he looks down to see half his eggs have been busted.

      Now he has to go back and inform Egg Transport Services he carried his eggs in more than one basket. Had he followed the rules, the not dropped basket would have all the eggs safe and sound.

      He contemplates living on unemployment.

      Possibly he can get a new job transporting M&M’s in jars …. what could possibly go wrong there???

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