The vast majority of times when armed citizens are involved in self-defense shootings the person doing the shooting is arrested, cuffed and taken to the police station. Fingerprints are generally taken, and a night in jail waiting to be bonded out isn’t uncommon. Murder or manslaughter charges are sometimes filed, and the defender makes all the newspapers and police reports, resulting in a sullied reputation at the very least.
When all that stuff doesn’t happen, it’s a pretty good indication that the incident was an obvious case of self-defense. Such was the case this week in Manhattan, Kansas, when a 26-year-old man was forced to draw his legally carried firearm and shoot an aggressor
According to police reports, law enforcement officers with the Riley County Police Department responded to a report of shots fired in the 900 block of Yuma Street at around 8 p.m. on October 9. When they arrived, they found that a 23-year-old Manhattan man had been shot in the parking lot of the Douglass Activity Complex.
The victim was transported by EMS to Ascension Via Christi Hospital, where he was life-flighted to Stormont Vail Hospital for treatment of life-threatening injuries. While details of the event are sketchy at this time and still under investigation, the incident seems to be a clear case of self-defense.
“Preliminary information indicates the shooter, a 26-year-old male, acted in self-defense,” a release from the Riley County Police Department stated. “Due to the nature of the investigation, no additional information regarding the shooter will be released at this time.”
Police said there is also believed to be little to no relationship between the individuals involved in the self-defense incident. And, they said, the shooting seemed to be an isolated event with no threat to the public.
Law enforcement officials will continue to investigate the shooting to determine exactly what happened. The department intends to release additional information after the investigation is concluded.
“Preliminary information indicates the shooter, a 26-year-old male, acted in self-defense,”…
Interesting, the “victim” is officially designated as “the shooter”.
Imagine that.
Logic seems to imply that the attacker was the victim of the shooter.
Manhattan is in NewYok.
KansasCity is in Missouri.
This article is confusing.
Look it up, there is such a place as Manhattan, Kansas.
Manhattan, Kansas is located in Riley County, Kansas, and is the county seat.
Kansas City Kansas and Kansas City Missouri are separated by the Missouri river.
The Kansas City Chiefs are on the Missouri side.
Always mean to return to Missouri and see stuff besides Ft Leonardwood. Usually don’t make it past Tennessee though.
there’s also a Kansas city, Kansas.
And the bad news is there are more perps out there just like him.
Lest We Forget…
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So, he shot him in the parking lot. That’s good shooting, I don’t care who you are.
“an isolated event with no threat to the public.”
There will be a threat to the public if they give this criminal a slap on the wrist, like Kamala prefers.
Don’t believe their lies about Kamala being tough on crime. The murder rate increased after she was elected in San Francisco. It had been decreasing every year for several years until she was elected. She’s always been easy on crime.
Check out this gem from 2006:
Second, we need to look at what happens once suspects are arrested. In April of this year, a legal newspaper, the S.F. Daily Journal, reported that District Attorney Kamala Harris proposed not even prosecuting drug dealers until they had been arrested three times. (“Police Frown on S.F. DA’s Drug-Arrest Plan,” April 7, 2006:) You don’t have to be a lawyer or a cop to know what message this sends to would-be drug dealers. Learning of Harris’ plan, SFPD Deputy Police Chief Morris Tabak commented “…BART, AC Transit and SamTrans would have to add trains and buses to accommodate all the dealers rushing to do business in the city.”
SFGate 2006
You telling us that Kammie lies? Shocking.
Her entire campaign is based on lies. At least the Puppet was basically admitting that he would be opening the borders. Dem voters are so slow that half of them didn’t notice he was senile until the last debate. They probably won’t notice the Kammie lies.
“the S.F. Daily Journal, reported that District Attorney Kamala Harris proposed… “
So I’ve seen this a couple places, but the article cited just circularly references one another, no primary source.
Does someone have an actual citation with the quote from Kamala Harris regarding this policy?
Is there an actual policy document from the DA’s office referencing this policy?
Man, miner/roland. You are incredible. You are either worth every dime soros is paying you or, and this is the scary part, you actually believe.
Either way you are more broken than charlie manson.
Here you go. Here’s a copy of the letter the police sent to Kamala in 2005 telling her how stupid her policies are.
Two decades later, what has she learned? Nothing! And why didn’t she learn? It’s the same reason you never learn. You don’t want to learn because you don’t care about the truth. You don’t care about the suffering caused by these insane policies. You only care about advancing the revolution because you guys are programmed drones. It’s what you do.
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“Here you go. Here’s a copy of the letter the police sent to Kamala in 2005“
I see, you don’t actually have a quote from Kamala Harris or any sort of written policy statement from her office to support your claim as I asked:
“Is there an actual policy document from the DA’s office referencing this policy?“
So what do you have?
“according to a copy of the letter obtained by The Daily Wire… “
Oh, OK, got it.
You got nuthin’ but empty claims.
Please explain to me what you think the Chief of Police was responding to???
Did you read the letter? He describes EXACTLY why he’s writing it! You can’t really be this dense.
Please explain to me what you think the Chief of Police was responding to??
Did you read the letter? He describes EXACTLY why he’s writing it! You can’t really be this dense.
“You got nuthin’ but empty claims.”
…except, you know, a copy of an official communication. That’s all. Even your desperation moves are lame, Miner. Why do you hate the truth? Why can’t you be honest for once in your life?
“except, you know, a copy of an official communication“
Nope, you have one report from a single ‘News’ outlet that admits they’re a tabloid:
“It has been characterized as a “high-end tabloid” by Noah Shachtman, the site’s editor-in-chief from 2018 to 2021“
The ‘news’ story is of course one-sided, no attempt to interview Harris or anyone else in the DA’s office at the time. If this was any sort of official policy, there would be a record of the policy… But of course, there’s nothing of the sort to substantiate the story.
But let’s admit that 20 years ago Kamala Harris did suggest a leniency program for first time drug offenders, apparently the policy was never enacted so why are your panties in a wad?
Why is this such a problem for you, while you apparently completely ignore the leader of the Republican party’s public commitment in front of thousands of people to utilize United States military to attack his political opponents:
“I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, we have some very bad people,” Trump continued. “We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the—and it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”
I think Jesus expressed the ridiculousness of your intentional blindness to Donald Trump’s promise to be a fascist dictator when he said:
“And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?“
Miner. This IS an official record of her policy. This is an official communication from the Chief of Police. In order to “debunk” this as fake news, then you have to provide proof that this is actually fake. You are not doing that because you can not do that. Like you said, this story has been out there for some time. If it’s fake, then why hasn’t some aspiring journalist bothered to prove that this is fake? You’re alleging that this is a manufactured document with ZERO proof!
Why would this historical Kamala fact upset you? This is what you guys stand for. Shouldn’t you be bragging about being soft on crime? Shouldn’t you guys be bragging about open borders? This is what you have been pushing for. Yet, you’re running from the truth because people have discovered how horrible your policies are. Be honest for once in your life.
Miner. This IS an official record of her policy. This is an official communication from the Chief of Police. In order to “debunk” this as fake news, then you have to provide proof that this is actually fake. You are not doing that because you can not do that. The best you could do was a desperate attempt to muddy the water.
Like you said, this story has been out there for some time. If it’s fake, then why hasn’t some aspiring journalist bothered to prove that this is fake? You’re alleging that this is a manufactured document with ZERO proof!
Why would this historical Kamala fact upset you? This is what you guys stand for. Shouldn’t you be bragging about being soft on crime? Shouldn’t you guys be bragging about open borders? This is what you have been pushing for. Yet, you’re running from the truth because people have discovered how horrible your policies are. Be honest for once in your life.
“This IS an official record of her policy“
Nope, that is a blatant lie. The DA had no such policy, it was merely a proposal as your own link shows:
“But back in 2005, the police chief warned Harris that her proposed policy“
Why didn’t you mention any of the details of the ‘Operation Safe Streets‘ the letter references?
Again, you get your knickers all in a wad because of a proposal Harris may have made 20 years ago, while ignoring the leader of the Republican Party’s public advocacy of jailing those who disagree with the courts:
“They were very brave, the Supreme Court. Very brave. And they take a lot of hits because of it,” said the former president. “It should be illegal, what happens. You know, you have these guys like playing the ref, like the great Bobby Knight. These people should be put in jail the way they talk about our judges and our justices, trying to … sway their vote, sway their decision”
Again, whining because of a proposal Harris may have made 20 years ago is bullshit, 20 years ago Donald Trump was a pro-choice Democrat so why are you supporting him now?
“Trump was registered as a Democrat for more than eight years in the 2000s, according to New York City voter records made public during his 2016 campaign for president“
All the while you are ignoring public statements Donald Trump has made in the last 48 hours advocating for military repression of his political opponents.
Hypocrisy, thy name is conservative Republican.
“But back in 2005, the police chief warned Harris that her proposed policy“
What has changed since 2005, Miner? Go back to the beginning of this thread. I said that she didn’t learn anything when the Chief was schooling her on her soft on crime policies because she is on the record pushing for the same type of policies nearly two decades later. That’s who she is. That’s the point.
You’re now pretending like this was a mistake by Kamala which she corrected. So you’re admitting that her policy proposals were horrible. Thank you. If it was a good thing, then you would be bragging about it.
“a proposal Harris may have made 20 years ago”
You’re still pretending like this is fake news. You can’t refute it because this is real. This isn’t about Trump. Why do you keep bringing him up? This is about soft on crime Democrats. This has been a known thing since I’ve been alive. They were forced to do something about it in the 90s because things got so bad that Democrat voters finally demanded it. And now Dem politicians are even they’re even running away from that record! They call it racist.
*And now Dem politicians are even running away from that record!
“So you’re admitting that her policy proposals were horrible“
Wrong, we’re discussing one specific proposal from 20 years ago and you’re trying to generalize it into all her policy proposals.
“You can’t refute it”
Refute what, you haven’t provided any documents or statements by her to confirm your claims.
And regarding Trump’s positions, are you saying that you are OK with him flip-flopping on women’s rights, indeed on his entire political affiliation?
Regarding Democrat law and order, it’s such a vague accusation it’s difficult to respond to.
But you still haven’t responded to Trump’s public call (in the last 48 hours) for United States military action against his political opponents.
You still haven’t responded to Donald Trump‘s call for the jailing of those who disagree with Supreme Court opinions.
Obviously, one can only conclude that you are in favor of using the United States military against your political opponents and that you don’t believe citizens should be allowed to speak against the Supreme Court.
Which makes you the fascist.
“Wrong, we’re discussing one specific proposal from 20 years ago and you’re trying to generalize it into all her policy proposals.”
Nope. You have just failed a third grade level reading comprehension test. The entire point of this thread was to show that she was the same person 20 years ago. She’s always been terrible.
My first comment that began this conversation: “There will be a threat to the public if they give this criminal a slap on the wrist, like Kamala prefers…She’s always been easy on crime.”
My first reply to you in this thread: “Two decades later, what has she learned? Nothing!”
“But you still haven’t responded to…”
I responded to your comment about the talking point of the day on another page. Talk about it more over there, if you feel the need. Focus, Miner. Try to stay on topic for once in your life.
Me: “Kamala has always pushed bad policies.”
Miner: “You’re a fascist.”
LOL!
You claim Kamala is terrible because you believe she has advocated for a soft on crime position for years.
(Just like JD Vance, and his “I hate the police” email from 2014, right?)
So the worst you have is she may be soft on crime, let’s contrast that with Donald Trump publicly advocating before thousands his own position of using the United States military to attack his political opponents:
“I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, we have some very bad people,” Trump continued. “We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the—and it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”
Yeah, I’m not really worried about Kamala Harris’s maybe soft on crime philosophy, I’m a little more concerned about Donald Trump‘s overt calls for fascist military actions against his political opponents.
I understand you won’t speak against his overt Fascism, because it would threaten your position in the cult. Sad.
And again attempting to change the conversation! Wow, I guess it’s no fun trying to defend the indefensible. Like I already said, and you failed to comprehend:
I responded to your comment about the talking point of the day on another page. Talk about it more over there, if you feel the need. Focus, Miner. Try to stay on topic for once in your life.
And again attempting to change the subject! Wow, I guess it’s no fun trying to defend the indefensible. Like I already said, and you failed to comprehend:
I responded to your comment about the talking point of the day on another page. Talk about it more over there, if you feel the need. Focus, Miner. Try to stay on topic for once in your life.
Not only did you stop trying to defend Kamala or call it fake news, you finally admitted that you don’t care about her solft on crime policies! LOL! Yes, we understand that you are for these horrible policies. That was never the question. But you are smart enough to understand that the average American citizen is NOT for these insane policies. That’s why you were upset that I posted facts about Kamala. That’s why you guys have to lie about who Kamala really is.
Not only did you stop trying to defend Kamala or call it fake news, you finally admitted that you don’t care about her soft on crime policies! LOL! Yes, we understand that you are for these horrible policies. That was never the question. But you are smart enough to understand that the average American citizen is NOT for these insane policies. That’s why you were upset that I posted facts about Kamala. That’s why you guys have to lie about who Kamala really is.
I like Missouri. I have a cousin who lived in Columbia while his wife was working on her doctorate. I drove up there three years in a row. We shot ducks on the Missouri River in the morning and sat deer stands in the afternoon. Some of the finest hunting I’ve experienced. Beautiful countryside and friendly people. I could live there if I weren’t a Florida Cracker.
I grew up in the Show Me State. 40+ plus years before I moved for a job. Missouri is truly a great place to grow up and live as long as you stay away from most of St Louis and Kansas City. Like many other cities across our nation they have both fallen prey to Liberal Progressive Democrat leadership and aren’t nearly as good of places to live as they were 30 years ago.
Loose that stupid graphic. I’ve never worked a homicide where we outlined the body. When I went through the academy an instructor brought up the chalk outline and laughed at it. It’s an old Hollywood thing. I was first on the scene for a quadruple homicide. We didn’t outline any of them. Took pics though. Worked a couple of triple homicides. No chalk. I didn’t even outline the guy I witnessed be murdered. Real LE work ain’t much like TV.
Gadsden, next you’re going to tell us that the ME can’t pull a bullet out of the dead guy, hold it at arm’s length, and say ” Yep, a 38 – just like the last one.”
Did you solve the triple murder in an hour – with commercials?
Uh, they can’t. The ME can tell you the bullet is .357 caliber, but they can’t say if it was .38 Spl or .357 magnum. And yes, the suspects in all of the aforementioned homicides are safely ensconced in prison today. I don’t sell commercial air time.
I guess those ME’s are not of a high enough…
*puts on sunglasses*
caliber.
YYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
W^when we play hop scotch we always use a chalk outline.
I don’t know that game. I think my younger sister did. Decades ago.
SCOTUS ATF CASE: DOJ (tries) CREATING PRECEDENT FOR NATIONWIDE BAN OF AR-15s.
In SCOTUS, the question arose: if you can “readily convert” a  piece of metal into a frame and make it a firearm under federal GCA, then why can’t ATF argue that a semi automatic rifle with a few minor modifications is “readily convertible” into a machine gun? Mark Smith for Boxes Diner flagged this issue before and it arose in VanDerStok oral argument.
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Did Tim Walz break the law on his fake hunting trip with no hunting license? (and doesn’t know how to load his shotgun – and again shows the partial clip of the Kamala commercial that hired male gay ‘effeminate adjacent’ actors to portray ‘manly’ men in attempt to appeal to the male voter).
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The Forgotten Illinois Suppressor Case.
You may have forgotten about this case, we certainly did. Today Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses the matter of Anderson v. Raoul, a long ago filed challenge to Illinois’ outright ban on all firearms suppressors. What ever happened to this case?
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Poorly written and not edited well.
I like action movies such as who used guns in Films…Thanks for inspiring me!!
They can’t, I guess. The ME can confirm that the bullet is.357 caliber, but they are unable to confirm whether it was..357 magnum or 38 Special. Indeed, the individuals suspected of carrying out the aforementioned killings are currently securely imprisoned. Commercial airtime is not something I sell!!
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