“You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.” These words of Solomonic wisdom were uttered by the family of 18 year-old Adric White (above) after White was shot multiple times by an armed Good Samaritan in Mobile, Alabama last week. White remains hospitalized in serious condition–and armed police custody. Upon his release from the hospital, he will proceed directly to jail without passing Go or collecting one hundred dollars. We can probably assume that White’s enabling relatives are angry about that, too . . .
Their comments come in the aftermath of the most obviously justifiable ‘defense of others’ shooting I’ve ever heard about. According to police, White was robbing a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Alabama at gunpoint when an unnamed and lawfully armed Good Samaritan entered the store.
White failed to maintain situational awareness while he was holding a gun to an employee’s head and dragging him toward the front of the store, and our GGWG (Good Guy With A Gun) got the drop on him.
From Fox10tv.com:
“He had the gun to his head. He had him on his knees,” said the [Good Samaritan]. “I drew my gun on him and I said ‘Hey don’t move.’ At that point he swung around and before he had a chance to aim the gun at me I fired. I didn’t want to shoot him, but when I saw him swing around so fast I didn’t want to get shot either.”
White was hit five times. After he was taken to the hospital, authorities discovered that he was out on bail for a similar armed robbery at an oyster restaurant just over a month earlier.
And this is where one of White’s idiot relatives chimed in.
“If his (the customer) life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him – what gives him the right to think that it’s okay to just shoot someone?” said the relative. “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.”
Yes, I’d like to know what kind of family upbringing would lead someone (someone like Adric White) to believe that it’s okay to just rob people at gunpoint? White’s childhood among such idiot relatives as this one probably did him no favors. When asked about the other armed robbery White was out on bail from, the idiot relative decided it was time to STFU, which he or she should have done well before opening his/her mouth.
“We don’t know [about the other pending charges]. Like I said, we don’t know anything. We only know what we’ve been hearing second hand through the news. I would not like to comment because I don’t know,” she said.
White now faces additional armed robbery and firearms charges, and his bail on the prior charge will be revoked as soon as they can drag his drugged and leaking carcass into court. Authorities have defended the GGWG’s actions as a legally justified use of deadly force.
“Shooter ready…”
“Send it…”
“Hit?…”
“Uh. A little high and left.”
“Adjusting. Ready.”
“Send it.”
“Hit?”
“Yeah. That’s a hit… Can I PLEASE go get the ball now?”
Shot five times … and lived. People of the gun should rise up and reward the good Samaritan with a new and more worthy gun, preferably something not in the .177 cal he has now.
It can happen with any caliber, it’s all about placement, how fast aid arrives, and a few other lucky factors.
It reminds me of that Mom with twins in Georgia who also shot a home invader 5-times and he still drove away. She had to threaten him with the empty gun to make her escape with the kids to a neighbor’s house. Moral of the story, shot placement and carry reloads. I love my .45 but 7-8 rounds is not enough when things get complicated and the perp brings friends along for the ride.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/05/my-wife-is-a-hero-georgia-mother-shoots-home-intruder-five-times-after-being-cornered/
And they wonder why we have a race relations problem?
Tom
Tom, as an official OFWG in good standing I would like to say that over the years I have had quite cordial relationships and interactions with persons of almost all ethnicities, even Pakistani Muslims. As old-world Germanic/Scandinavian stock I yet have a half-Mexican nephew, two mulatto nephews, two half-Korean nephews, and who knows how many other mutts going on down the line.
In the course of my many occupations, and in the Army, I have interacted with persons of color on a daily basis and in casual meetings and seldom had any conflicts or difficulties because I treat everyone as a person deserving of my respect until they give me a reason to believe otherwise. I say all this to point out that people are people, no matter where they are from or what shades they come in. In almost every case where there IS conflict it is from an incidental CULTURAL bias and not a racial or ethnic propensity to such conflict.
We cannot allow ourselves through bigotry to alienate any person who is willing and anxious to be our ally, nor should we from political correctness refrain from pointing out that it is misguided cultural issues that bring discredit upon certain ethnic groups and that only they can resolve those issues within their group.
My guess is that he was referring to the prevalent attitude (among blacks, the media, and liberals) that blacks should be allowed to commit any crime they please without repercussions. They believe that having a certain skin color somehow absolves someone of responsibility for their actions.
You got all of that from that comment? I would have thought that reading between the lines would have necessitated, by definition, more than one line of text. Outstanding!
Must… Adhere… To new TTAG flaming policy… Must not use… Word that rhymes with Watts…
And white will probably be out within the next ten years to do this all over again.
But at least our gun control laws and background check system will ensure that he doesn’t have a firearm next time, right?
With a grudge too, especially since his own family will be feeding his blame of the Good Samaritan rather than accepting guilt and encouraging him to rehabilitate.
Where is Al Sharpton?
Zero goddamn sympathy. Zero.
Is there a number less than zero? If there is, then that.
That “just keep walking and mind your own business” attitude is the reason that your neighborhoods are fucking shitholes. I have nothing but contempt for people who evince this attitude, regardless of their skin color, ethnic background or economic class. You are your brother’s keeper, you piece of shit.
I fully realize I should probably not be near a keyboard when I’ve had a few.
No, No, Matt. You said what I was thinking even more eloquently than I could have. I’ll give you a big Amen!
I would have been slightly more more diplomatic… but yeah.
What this family is saying that that you have no right to care about anyone other than yourself (and apparently kin). It’s apparently morally offensive to give a rat’s rear end about a stranger getting hurt, and a sin to defend a complete stranger’s life with your own.
Also, you have the right to hurt anybody, and nobody has the right to stop you.
Part of my would really love to see this family be truly victimized by something horrible, and have nobody do anything to help them, just so they understand how terrible the complete non-sense they’re spewing is.
More sad than anything. I wouldn’t want to these people’s miserable lives.
Odds are that the family are also loudly “Christian” and declaim the faith to all and sundry. Obviously they failed the part of of the exam where they actually have to understand what that faith is, but I’ll bet they are loudly announcing their “belief” in Jesus and claiming that their relative should be forgiven because Jesus would want it that way.
Excellent accuracy by the outstanding Samaritan.
“Here, Spot!”
or
“We meet again, Mailman…”
ADA Sponsored Blind Precision Shooting Nationals…
Taking ‘seeing eye dogs’ to a whole new level…
So how was this criminal out on bail able to acquire another firearm so quickly?
He must have used the gun show loophole.
You’re right. We gotta fix this. How about some more laws. That should do it…
Because the cops didn’t look under the mattress.
Yup… that’s the cat.
I have a millennium 9 mm my uncle gave me and after you fire the first shot the gun jams the bullet catches on the silver part inside the chamber and only fire that one shell and then jams how can I fix this
You might be able to file and polish the ramp a bit. I would send it in to Taurus.
German Shepherd: You missed again you nimrod. Give me the rifle, even I can do better than that!
Yet another misunderstood young man trying to get his life together. When will people stop to think of the children?
If only the store had had a no gun sign in the window, the robbery never would’ve happened.
Really, just testing out gun grabber memes….take your guess as to which we hear first.
If Shannon Watts had a son, he’d look like Adric White.
I think she does. Hopefully someone with more common sense than God gave gravel will get their hands on him and educate him properly. I really hope the apples fall way far from the tree in that case.
I have an antique medical textbook somewhere, written about 1875 or so. Much of what is in there is laughably inaccurate or inappropriate, based on even third world standards today, but some of the author’s philosophy is illuminating.
In discussing mental illness and genetics he made the interesting observation: “Genius child was never born of idiot parents.”
This comment is full of pure WIN!
“If his (the customer) life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him – what gives him the right to think that it’s okay to just shoot someone?” said the relative. “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.”
So what that boils down to is this:
o Criminals have the right to commit any sort of violence without interference from anyone who is not a victim of that criminal.
Therefore:
o Every non-criminal able-bodied citizen should be armed to protect himself from criminals, and not expect any other citizen to have any concern for anyone’s safety but his own.
QED Brother!
Can we just take ceric out and finish him off as he was caught red handed.
Maybe his relatives should also be jailed for producing, enabling, and otherwise aiding a known criminal.
Their comments sure sound like a confession to me.
Maybe we should ban them from all public assistance.
Squirrel.
George Jetson and Astro, before marrying, before flying cars, before kids, and before Spacely Spockets…
What’s up with the Jolly Green Giant responding to the BB gun call?
Looks more like a mini-Hulk.
I was thinking the blobs green cousin.
If you want more realistic training weapons I would suggest looking at KWA’s lineup, they are very high quality and made to resemble their “real-steel” counterparts to a high degree. They have AR15s AKs G36s the KRISS Vector, and a whole line of pistols.
For training I prefer gas-blowback over electric as they provide a much more realistic simulation of your pistol or rifle’s action, and even produce a small amount of recoil.
By the way, the purpose of terrorism is to spread terror. I think we can see by the over-reaction of citizens and authorities to ANY report of a “man with a gun” that this part of their program has succeeded.
If I were inclined to commit an act of terrorism (and even though I’m a white, gun-loving veteran, I am NOT a terrorist), I would first make a bogus call “man with a gun” at a theater, school or mall as far from my actual target as possible. While 90% of the local LEOs are tied up looking for the busboy’s apron or the neighbor’s Red Ryder I could pretty much do as I pleased on the other side of town.
Auto users are caught in a vicious cycle. You have to practice with your weapon. Which means loading and unloading mags. Accelerating wear on them until they need to be replaced. And there’s always that nagging doubt about your weapon of choice. Is this the time I really need a flawless performance and will the mag crap out? 0dark30 and the sound of breaking glass is not the time to wonder if your mag is worn a little too much.
Once upon a time, a handsome man asked an extremely beautiful woman to marry him. The woman said NO, and the man lived happily ever after. He rode motorcycles and dated skinny long-legged full-breasted women and hunted and fished and raced cars and went to stripper bars and dated ladies half his age and drank whiskey, beer and Patron tequila.
He never heard bitching and he never paid child support or alimony. He banged San Diego Charger cheerleaders and kept his house and guns and ate spam and potato chips and beans and farted whenever he wanted to and never got cheated on while he was at work. All his friends and family thought he was totally cool as hell and he had tons of money in the bank and he left the toilet seat up.
He got to go shooting with his favorite dog anytime he wanted to, dress like a 70’s bush mercenary and grow his hair long.
—The End
See? Fairy tales aren’t just for girls.
The soul of a poet.
“See Spot. See Spot spot. Spot, Spot, spot!”
“Why don’t they open the comments sections of they YouTube videos?”
Interesting typo…
Man: “I know you don’t like watching your tennis balls going to bits, but you chewed up all my cardboard.”
Dog: “Oh, no. It’s cool, dude…” And don’t be surprised if you find a nice “present” in your boots again tomorrow morning, fuckface.
“Because as we all know, there are no actual facts behind their stance; only emotion”
Same with the feminists and their claims about numbers and facts.
You don’t have a dogs chance at hitting that!
Like my Dad would have said to me, “hijo never take a bag of skittles to gun fight.” My Dad was an old cowboy that spent his youth in Arizona and New Mexico in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s when it was still wild. Later after retirement he regretted the men he had killed. My Dad died from a stroke at the age of 69. The men he had killed never made it past 30. Stealing cattle and horses was still a hanging offense in those times. It’s good to know that there are some people still left that do not put up with people committing crimes.
Weapons hot. I said shoot that bitch.
Or
Following a demonstration of ability, the AKC formally recognized the German Spotter as a separate breed.
Häyhä’s Best Friend: Simo
Leave the poor Ardic be. He’s had a rough life being black named White.
Hey anyone here have a tissue, I kinda drooled a bit on the eyepiece
電子アクセサリー
I’d have killed Trayvon myself. If any of these racist big-talkers want to insult any of my teeth, let them do it in person.
Dude, Leghorn, your forgot to mention this nut job is hardcore racist.
Well, we can add another term to what happens if you play with yourself too much as your momma warned you about going blind, you become a brainless internet troll!
“My measures would ELIMINATE gun violence. It would ELIMINATE poor black children being murdered by sociopaths…”
Eliminating black children seems rather genocidal, don’t you think? And after all that fuss about Affirmative Action?
I have a suggestion: first, learn the English language, THEN go about proposing inflammatory “amendments” to the Constitution.
My instructor once told me that the world is made up of wolves, sheep, and… german shepherds
“…people-killers and nuclear-tipped semi-automatics…”
I do not even know where to start with this lunacy.
Well, according to Bloomberg, U.S. tanks fire nuclear rounds, so I can see where not doing any research and then running your mouth can lead to stupid statements.
He should stick to carving devil’s tower in his mashed potatoes.
Looks like there’s going to be a run on guns in nj for a few years
I’ve wrenched my back trying to see around this quote. Need my Aleve now…
Tyler, great story to start my day!
Love it! It’s the hunt. Not always the kill.
I was able to sneak up on a fox in a field across the street as it was digging like crazy after something. Each time it came up to check his surroundings, I stood still.
Armed with my canon eos and 300 mm image stabilizing lens, I started snapping pics. Got the money shot as it started walking away. I squeeked, it stopped and looked at me from about 50 feet. Camera set in RAW mode. You can see the toes on the gophers feet that is in it’s mouth.
They lie ALL the time, ALL leftist/liberal groups do, it’s what they do, it’s how they get sheep…
It’s gonna be like Wall-E soon, just a bunch of moronic, fat blobs with robots doing all the thinking and useful work.
And that was the last time the cat stole the dogs bed.
And I want to add because the liberal news media does not report all the news fairly ! It is another way to lie.. by not reporting all crime fair and equal they are using FAKE moral values . They want the high ground . Why ? for gun control . to save the children! to save America! to save mother earth! they use this in every area of life. Tell a lie enough times and people start to accept it… Our education systems are worked the save way … Leave the facts out (truth) you cook the books as they say ! See how they LIE!
RICHARD DUFUSS is a dope.
I told you it was the women’s barracks!
TrackingPoint is the end of the shooting sports as we know it-and that’s not a good thing.
Here’s the problem.It is safe to assume the civil disarmament movements not going anywhere in the years to come.As time marches on, this tech will go more mainstream until one day ,having a traditional scope will be a thing of history.
After a future mass tragedy like Newtown,someone in government will get the bright idea to regulate the tech .With the TrackingPoint tech limited to law enforcement and ambitious criminals like the modern day Mexican Cartels , the Average Joe will be at a disadvantage in the future years to come.What chance will a Texas rancher in 2028 have against a group of sicarios with these weapons?
I would definitely up grade my membership to life time. Sounds pretty good to me.
If you have ever shot a COP that will be all the answer you will need
*Avoid Yemen
Fixed that for you.
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
Euripides
Door left open at night, and checked the house without his gun in hand, then yelled at his girlfriend to bring him his gun? Please! This is a study in stupid.
If you’re in the VA tricities area, walmart has a good bit (5 boxes of 1 caliber per person, but they stock both .223 and 5.56)
the mail man is two clicks to the left and one click down,
FirearmConcierge on Reddit I assume
I hope you win in court. You would think that losing a constitutional right would require due process.
As much as I empathize with this reader, I’m torn on this issue. I think the ongoing Zimmerman saga illustrates that we gun owners are subject to much greater, unfair and much unwarranted scrutiny.
At the same time, It’s hard to answer the question of who will be the sacrificial lambs of “unregulated” gun rights. In a marketplace of ideas where moral superiority is a major selling point, how do you sell the absolutist point of view?
This could be right out of Terry Gilliam’s Brazil.
No…the “R” stands for rimmed…. not “Russian”. You are correct in that it is centerfire as opposed to rimfire but it does indeed have that big rim at the bottom of it’s centerfired case….i.e. “rimmed” as oppossed to “rimless” like most modern cartridges that are designed for auto-loaders.
Nice. Accidentally shoot someone and break your thumb off too.
I am dealing with a type of cancer that attacks the plasma cells in the bone marrow and has the very bad habit of eating away at the bone structure. All points brought up are great and I just want to say thank you to you all for your insight and willingness to share.
The one situation that I have to deal with and accept eventually is the fact that very soon I won’t be able to carry. If I do I have to answer one question, am I putting other folks in danger by carrying a gun that I can’t employ effectively because of my limitations?
This is something that I have to deal with due to my limitations.
For now my Sig 2340 is still usable. My old Colt Trooper gives me additional time but……..
Reading this story puts me in mind of two things.
One, I’m lucky; My dad bought a lever-action .22 for me before I was born. He didn’t know if I was gonna be a boy or a girl yet, but I was gonna learn how to shoot and how to do so safely.
Two, the flinch and the trigger jerking is a natural human reaction. Even growing up around firearms and shooting them for most of my life, shooting them in the Marines, and shooting them afterward, I still have to make sure I don’t start picking up bad habits, so don’t feel too bad about the sudden jump from someone in the next lane firing or the potential to jerk the trigger. It takes a LOT of practice to make that go away completely.