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Raja'ee Fatihah (courtesy nydailynews.com)

“A U.S. Army reservist from Tulsa (was) asked to leave a gun range in eastern Oklahoma,” abcnews.go.com reports, “after identifying himself as a Muslim sued the owners Wednesday, the latest in a series of cases across the nation alleging anti-Islamic discrimination.” To be clear, I think the Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gun Range are a bunch of bozos for banning Muslims. If nothing else, as our resident war hero Jon Wayne Taylor will tell you, Muslims have fought beside American troops. And this particular one is an American-born U.S. soldier. All that said . . .

Twenty-nine-year-old Raja’ee Fatihah [above], an employee with the Oklahoma Department of Human Services, went into the range with the intention of tweaking the owners. Maybe.

Fatihah, who is a board member with the Muslim advocacy group Council on American-Islamic Relations’ Oklahoma chapter, said he went to the gun range after learning about the sign. He said the owners of the store were pleasant and welcoming until he told them he was Muslim.

“At that point, they started treating me with suspicion,” Fatiha said . . .

Robert Muise, with the American Freedom Law Center, represented the Florida gun shop owner and now is working for Chad Neal, the owner of the Oklahoma gun range.

Muise said Fatihah was denied service because he was belligerent, not because of his religion, and that the sign declaring the shop a “Muslim-free” business is protected free speech.

“The only thing the law prohibits is if somebody denies services strictly on the basis of religion, and that didn’t happen here,” Muise said.

Fatihah denies that he acted belligerently.

Fatihah has a slightly different story at (where else?) huffingtonpost.com.

When I went to the Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gun Range last October, I wasn’t looking for any trouble. As an active Army reservist, I shoot regularly to maintain my proficiency in marksmanship. Like the proud Oklahomans of various faiths, I also enjoy it as a hobby that has nothing to do with my religion. When I got to the counter, I signed the waiver and was preparing to pay my fee as part of standard procedure. But the transaction was never completed because as soon as I identified myself as Muslim, things took a frightening turn.

"Muslim Free" sign at OK's Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gun Range (courtesy (nydailynews.com)

The owners of the range grabbed their handguns and demanded to know whether I was there to “commit an act of violence” or as part of a “jihad.” I was nervous about what would happen next, being outnumbered two to one, but I didn’t return the animosity.

Regardless, of Fatihah’s intent or actions for going, or upon learning the range wanted him gone, there’s no reason to discriminate against Muslims at a gun range — unless the owner suspects them of nefarious intent. At which point he or she should drop a dime on them with the local constabulary.

The ACLU has taken up Fatiha’s case. As for whether or not a private business has the right to discriminate against any particular type of customer — for reasons or race, color, creed, religion or sexual orientation, that’s a different matter. Isn’t it?

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  1. Here’s what you do.

    1) Find out about a business like this
    2) Open a competing business with “not an asshole” policies
    3) Focus your advertising on the fact that you’re not an asshole
    4) Profit

    • That and also don’t frequent businesses like this if you don’t agree with their policies. I would never go to a gun range that banned someone for something like their religion. I run a business and I would never refuse anyone service for things like that. Hell, I get a lot of service from people that barely speak English. My solution was to just learn Spanish instead. The simple fact is that money is money, be it from a Christian, Jew, Muslim, or Atheist. It’s unfortunate that these range owners don’t like money.

      • Gee, if only certain flight schools had the same policy. Lower Manhattan might not be short a few buildings. #YesAllMuslims

        • If only we didn’t sell fertilizer to Christians then a bunch of kids would be alive in Oklahoma City right?

        • Yes, because there certainly are no Muslim pilots now, nor any good Muslims anywhere. But let’s take your logic to it’s conclusion. We should ban blacks from firearm ownership, since that population is overrepresented in crime statistics. We should ban militias, since Timothy McVeigh was a member of one. We should ban men from interacting with women, since most women are raped by men. We should ban those of German descent from office, since Germans are historically more likely to be Nazis.

          We should do all these things to individuals for the actions of others, individuality and western values be damned.

        • The difference is that McVeigh didn’t belong to a group with hundreds of millions of followers sworn to destroy western civilization.

        • Funny, none of the Muslims I ever talked to mentioned that the purpose of Islam was to destroy western civilization. Seemed to me they’d be working a lot harder toward that goal, what with there being a billion or so of them and all.

          • I suggest that you read the Koran and you will know yourself what the goal of Islam is; and you will also learn why none of the Muslims that you talk to will tell you that.

        • Sorry bro, but the myth of the moderate Muslim majority is exactly that, a myth. Go look at Ben Shapiro take apart the Pew Research numbers that show a majority supporting radicals.

        • @JAlan — Except that McVeigh wasn’t a member of any militia, either. You’d know this had you actually done any research on the matter. You haven’t. In fact, every militia McVeigh turned to told him to GTFO. They wouldn’t touch him with a 10-foot pole once he had explained his ideology and intentions, and rightly so.

          • Yes, and there were American troops that fought alongside Soviet troops in WWII. That, however, did not stop either from killing each other in Korea and Vietnam. So, what is your point?

        • So did I. What’s your point? The majority are still scum that I want nowhere near my country. Muslims can be broken down into four categories.

          1. Delusional idiots in denial over their hateful cult.
          2. Bigoted scum that think that they can do whatever they want.
          3. Bigoted scum that try to turn our own society against us by subversion.
          4. Violent psychopaths that do exactly as their cult commands and murder innocents.

          The first deserve to be mocked.
          The second deserve to be beaten.
          The last two deserve to be exterminated.

          CAIR is mostly made up of #2&#3

          • Do you ever hear nice, peaceful Muslims denouncing their jihad brothers, no matter what atrocity they’ve committed? Too much wax in your ears to hear the crickets?

              • After years of brewing and an out cry for an out cry, apologists like the HP are showing a few Muslims with signs against terrorism. Long overdue and hardly enough, considering that there are 1.6B Muslims and a few minor “demonstrations” against the jihadis. In fact, conversions of Westerners, especially young women, into Islam have tremendously multiplied since 9/11, and many of the converts are very militant. You have to be willfully blind not to see the resurgence of Islam in the US after 9/11. And much of the Islamic world celebrated not only 9/11, but most major terrorist acts. Doesn’t that say something?

            • Typical Right Winger. An aversion and paranoia when it comes to watching foreign news channels so you can find out what is really going on in the world. Muslims in Europe have been on the news and have posted on social media by the thousands “Not in My Name”.

              • Well, I sure have missed that out cry in America. And I do recall Palestinian Moslems celebrating on the rooftops on 9/11…

              • Looks like you do not even watch American News either as you just made a fool of yourself as they have been on U.S. news many times and condemned violence many times. And they donated over 100,000 dollars to the victims of San Bernardino. Of course the racist ignores all of this. How much did you contribute?

              • Touching… they brought flowers to the graves… Ever heard the tapes of what they preach in the American mosques? Try a high school “history” books that are used in American mosques to teach children on what to do with you and I. Try it.

              • More Nazi propaganda. American Muslims contributed 100,000 to the victims of San Bernardino. Now what racist twist can you put on that one? I am waiting.

              • Perhaps if their Imam did not help them along and their faithful brothers and sisters did not provide the support group in hating others and their Koran was tempered a bit (I know, that’s a death sentence on me), then perhaps 100,000 silver would not have been needed? Was that racist? So sorry… But, of course, I’m wrong. This was all a religion of peace and those two freaks just picked up guns that started to shoot by themselves. After all, that’s why they’re called “assault weapons.”

              • You really are a twisted right wing fanatic. When a white right wing nut case sprays down an abortion clinic you call it either the act of a crusader saving babies or if you have half a brain admit it was the action of a mentally deranged person. You in no case claim all Christians are cut of the same cloth. You give no such leeway to people who are mentally disturbed if they came from the Middle East and you cannot see that both cases are exactly the same because of your sickening racism. You automatically then condemn an entire religion.

              • So my reference to documented hate speech in Mosques and hateful teachings for school kids published as history books by Islamic centers in America you are considering as “Nazi propaganda”? You are willfully shutting your eyes and ears to the point that there is no point of discussing it.

              • You are a cheer leader for Racist Right wing Web sites that are now even claiming Obama had Scalia murdered. And I expect you will have us believe that Nazi propaganda as well. Sorry sane people are not buying it.

        • Yeah… Go ahead and pretend that being a follower of a hate group sworn to the destruction of the western world is the same as being black.

          You can choose not to be Muslim (and be in fear for your life from your former compatriots) you can’t choose to not be black.

      • Yes, clearly every Muslim is out to trick you. If they say that they don’t believe in destroying the west, it’s obviously a conspiracy by all Muslims. As for Ben Shapiro, the man seems to have a lack of journalistic integrity.

        Further, I saw that video, and it’s ridiculous once you actually look at the numbers. Here’s an okay breakdown of that.

        http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/05/ben-shapiro/shapiro-says-majority-muslims-are-radicals/

        But of course, that’s what’s to be expected from a man that once suggested that the forced expulsion of Arabs from the West Bank was justified by the expulsion of Germans from Poland. One might think that this man has an ideology to push.

        • Muslims can not lie unless it it to fool the infidels…….

          Radical Muslim: wants to cut your head off.
          Moderate Muslim: wants a Radical Muslim to cut your head off.

        • So you think the Germans who invaded Poland shouldn’t have been forced out after THEY LOST?

          More lunacy from some jihadistinian-loving jew-hater.

      • “I would never go to a gun range that banned someone for something like their religion.”

        How about if that “religion” demanded you convert or submit to THEIR religion, or die?

        THATS ISLAM.

        Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…
        but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)” (Translation is from the Noble Quran)

        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    • That and advertise that the range actually allows you to train. The bigger problem the gun world faces is the overwhelming amount of FUDD ranges that don’t allow you to do anything worth going for. I’m seriously working towards buying a decent chunk of land to start a range that actually allows people to train for an affordable membership fee. On that point alone I’m confident I’ll put the surrounding competition out of business within a year or two.

      • In Texas the only solution is to join a good private range or have a friend with land. I personally prefer to shoot in private land. Cheaper and you can set things up as you like.

    • In free countries, this is a lot easier than in ones where you need all manners of permits, licenses and insurances to open almost any business; most certainly one involving firearms.

    • Ok, let’s see, the guy was a Muslim, he’s a representative of CAIR…a terrorist organization. I’d be a bit suspicious of him too. Don’t care if he’s in the reserves, the two don’t add up to anything good. Anybody with a lick of knowledge about Islam would be suspicious. Allah FUBAR

      • islam is not a religion its an idealogy.the cair group is a front for the muslum brotherhood terrorists.add the multiple muslum terrorists training camps in dearborn michigan maine upstate ny near hancock,and in dallas where the 4 lying muslum terrorists lied and said they where lawyers,to bring in there muslum tribunal and in irving where clock boy lives,the one ovomit/satan the ineligible treasonous war crimes racist muslum traitor in the wh invited to the wh.irving where the muslum terrorists tryed to intimidate the city council,so they could bring in there muslum sharia garbage.ask each so called peacefull legal american muslum if they reject sharia.and do they pledge alligence to the flag of the usa and see what each one says.all non muslums the unbelievers or the infidels or to be killed/beheaded read the books the muslum mafia and heretic.god bless all legal american veterans/citizens

    • You are weak and sound exactly like a leftist liberal.
      Muslims are not your friend and this guy is a typical aggrieved negro on top of being a Muslim.
      I would kick his ass out too. Screw him. Why is it that negros and Muslims insist on going where they are not wanted? He should just move on.
      In a free society, we would have the right to associate with whomever we like and bar those that we see as enemies. You are free to not patronize any business that hurts your politically correct feelings.

      • George Wallace said much the same thing i.e. Blacks are not entitled to go to a private or public school, or drink at a fountain in a business that does not want them too or eat at a business that does not want to serve them or sit in the front of a public or private bus. According to you “those were the good old days”.

        • FWIW, he didn’t say whether it private segregation was good or bad. Only whether it was constitutional or not for the federal government to ban it.

      • >> Why is it that negros and Muslims insist on going where they are not wanted?

        Are you saying that “negros” in the South were “going where they are not wanted” (which was most everywhere)?

        You know that they actually lived there, right? And they didn’t come there out of their own free will, either.

      • Racist idiots are one of the biggest stumbling blocks to getting more people interested in gun rights and shooting. This kind of bull crap hurts all of us no matter what color our skin or what church we go to because it discourages people from getting into guns. And it is far too common in the gun community.

        • Well said. I could not agree with you more. Stray Dog, 16v, Perserg and others like them only reinforce the image of the average gun owner as an ignorant back country hick with no teeth and a bottle of moonshine in his hand.

        • Racism is surely a cancer, but willful ignorance of the specific danger that Islam poses to the west is surely worse. Go ahead and keep sticking your head into the sand. Keep defending the indefensible, it only makes their (islamists) goals that much more attainable.
          Btw your obvious disdain for traditional “good old boys” speaks to your elitism and snobbery. If you think good old boys are worse of a threat than Islam than I can only say look at the casualty figures across the world for the last 30 years. The good old boys have killed maybe 300, the Islamists have killed, raped, and pillaged tens of thousands if not millions.

          • Yep “The Good Old Boy’s” slaughtered 5 million Vietnamese in America’s war on Vietnam (depending on who’s survey you believe take or give a million but you get the picture). The Islamist still have a way to go to catch up to those figures. Again point the finger at someone and you have 3 fingers pointed right back at yourself.

        • JLP another bag sucker for Marxist and jihad.

          THE NVA and VC killed more than we did, and they kept Vietnam a slve state FOR DECADES, you illiterate fool.

          And the muslims killed EIGHTY MILLION HINDUS aside from invading Europe DOZENS OF TIMES.

          Smart people would ban morons like you from a range as well as any Muslims.

  2. So… you can prohibit people from coming on personal property if they have a firearm and a license and it’s A-ok, but if you try to ban for religion or sexual orientation, that’s where it crosses the line?

    How about none of the above or all of the above? Consistency.

    • How about posting a sign “No Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists”? Since they seem to treat their political affiliation as if it were a religion. Where would the ACLU stand on that?

      • Protected classes are specifically defined by statute. On federal level, as of this writing, they are:

        – race
        – color
        – religion
        – national origin
        – citizenship (with limits)
        – age (with limits – basically cannot discriminate on the basis of “too old”)
        – sex
        – pregnancy
        – married/non-married
        – disability
        – being a veteran
        – genes

        Note that this does not include political beliefs. So, yes, a private business can discriminate against you on that basis. So ACLU will probably not like it, and I would agree with them, but they wouldn’t sue.

        • I would argue that Dominionism is a political belief. And probably a good half of Christians in US are moderate to extreme Dominionists. I mean, look at the poll numbers for Ted Cruz, who is a blatant, hardline Dominionist.

        • I would argue the US government discriminates on age daily with its policy of older people not being able to join the military and younger with having to be 35 to be president. Fact

          • Like I said, the prohibition for discrimination wrt age is limited. You can read all about what exactly is prohibited here:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_Discrimination_in_Employment_Act

            In particular:

            “An age limit may be legally specified in the circumstance where age has been shown to be a “bona fide occupational qualifications reasonably necessary to the normal operation of the particular business” (BFOQ) (see 29 U.S.C. § 623(f)(1)). In practice, BFOQs for age are limited to the obvious (hiring a young actor to play a young character in a movie) or when public safety is at stake (for example, in the case of age limits for pilots and bus drivers).”

        • If you even vaguely know, or follow the Quran, Islam is entirely encompassing of your entire life.

          Your government is to be Islamic without reservation or hesitation. Interestingly enough, there’s not one single majority Muslim nation that is not a theocracy. Because the Quran calls for it, and they do what the entire religion demands – submit.

        • And yet, 25% of turks think that terrorist attacks on civilians are justified and the majority believe apostates should be killed…

          • Sure, and 25% of Americans (probably more, actually) believe that torture is a good thing that should be used more. And?

        • Here’s a primer on Turkey as a sponsor of Islamic terrorism. This is just a tiny slice, if you actually read the world news, it’s much, much worse.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#Turkey

          As to Turkey as a non-theocracy, you’ve apparently missed the last 10+ years…

          http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/06/10/turkey-continues-its-irrevocable-slide-to-an-islamic-theocracy/#

          https://www.quora.com/How-big-a-risk-do-Erdogan-and-his-party-pose-to-secularism-and-pluralism-in-Turkey

          Islam is a cancer and has killed every single society that it has infected, from day one until right this second. There is nothing in that book that is compatible with Western Civilization – or even civilization as witnessed by the dozens of countries with Muslim majority and rule.

          They can be assimilated in tiny numbers and learn to cherry pick the Quran and Hadith, like Christians and Jews do. But let any number of them in, and it is disaster. France, Germany, the UK will face a nasty choice in the near future, and I don’t like the way that choice has played out historically.