If I had a HAM’R I’d HAM’R in the morning, I’d HAM’R in the evening. All over this land. Stop, it’s HAM’R time! Or is it “HAM’R” as in a gun for turning hogs into hams? The ham-er? See what I/they did there? Not to hammer the point home. Or ham-er it. Or HAM’R it. I repeat, this is not a drill! (it’s a HAM’R)
Back on Earth, Wilson Combat takes their new .458 HAM’R and breaks some stuff with it. Jugs of water, various gourds, pig heads, cinder blocks. The usual. All caught in glorious slow motion:
“But even the simple act of self-preservation can be deemed aggression to conservatives.”
But even the simple act of procuring or possessing the means to self-preservation can be deemed aggression to liberals.
FIFY
I bet it’s binary fire only (no semi). While the NFA defines a “machine gun” based on a “single function of the trigger,” the NFA defines a “rifle” as a weapon fired from the shoulder that fires one round for each “pull of the trigger.” So, it’s not a rifle because it fires two rounds for every “pull” of the trigger. Since it’s not a rifle, it can’t be a SBR.
I love it.
It will probably be around $5k, so i’m out.
Only when I’m not home
I fail to see whats new here with this segmented load?? As a 40gr its more like a standard velocity load, yes??
Ive had it in the high velocity version 32gr @1640 fps and use it in my Berretta 21A as a self defense type load for well over a year plus.
Heck I was dumb enough to shell out I believe 79$$ for 2 bricks each when it 1st came out.
Jay in Florida, please do yourself a favor and research the ballistic gel results of segmented loads.
Even in center fire calibers, the segmented loads fail as miserably as shotgun bird shot for self defense.
I love my Beretta 950 which I carried for many years as one of four guns I carried in rotation depending on the clothing and location and now know was a false sense of security as the under-powered caliber is not sufficient to reach vital organs to stop a threat.
Quite a bit of misinformation is handed out here. Just a couple of examples: 1. A BB @ 590 fps WILL penetrate skin AND about 3.5″ of muscle tissue — hence 10% ordnance gel calibration standard. Thus, at typical handgun velocities, the skin offers insignificant bullet penetration barrier and that has nothing to do with the skin being backed by muscle or bone. 2. 12″ penetration minimum standard DOES NOT include bones, only soft tissue. As Aerindel pointed out with his own experience (hardly unique), a typical JHP will have a tough time penetrating a major bone such as a femur or humerus — even after penetrating just one or two inches of soft tissue first.
Go bigger AR 10 platform!! Stop playing around
we have to ban rocks, and we have to sue the rock, the maker of the rock, the ground the rock was on, and the minerals that made the rock. where are those lawyers that sued the tabacco companies and the gun companies.
Man, you guys are getting really lazy! Too many of your articles are almost identical to Ammoland’s regurgitated press releases. Maybe try some proactive reporting some time instead of spewing out reworded commercial drivel like this. I read TTAG for its original content and fair product analyses, but I guess that makes me the fool today.
Hi, this is an old thread but I too bought a new PX4 Storm Compact for $240.00 (tax included). The LGS had it for over a year and nobody wanted it. I really like it.
I still fail to see the point of this. Completely. It looks to me as if some guys wanted to prove something to someone, so they made something completely pointless, just to prove it could be done.
This is this century’s version of the Garand in .35 Whelen. When you’re going elk or moose hunting, are you going to pack along a Garand in .35 Whelen? No. You might take a sporterized ’03 in .35 Whelen, but you’re not packing a Garand around in .35 Whelen.
Same deal here.
Very biased review they forgot to mention frame is aluminum NOT stainless.
I’m trying to figure out what the niche is for this cartridge in the civilian market. It’s a fat (low ballistic coefficient), relatively slow bullet so it won’t have the range of more traditional hunting rounds.
If you want a fat, slow bullet you can go with a muzzleloader or shotgun slugs. Wilson was apparently trying to minimize overall length of the rifle here, but I just don’t know who it will appeal to. Make this gun too light and it will kick like a mule. You don’t need that much mass to kill a pig, and if you’re going after elk or moose you’re going to want something with a flatter trajectory and longer range.
I not getting one until they make one with a Pez dispenser.
The whole point is we do not need a “nanny state” to take of us. Most of us where raised with a book of rules. Government replacing religion and forcing guilt by making even more laws(sins) will never work. A government needs to be a way that thinking people with their own religion can react with other people of different religion(book of rules). While we can not abide crimes that hurt other people, who made the government into God, with final say in the matter. The more laws we make just shows hypocrisy and the futility present. Laws should not be made, they should be monitored and fine tuned. Making of new laws just make lawyers and lawmakers rich by doing the will of for profit entities. Most Christians will go to writings of important people about religion, but the Bible(particulary the New Testament) is the final place to find out what you want.
We should always go back to our Constitution, BORs, and DOI, before we modify any law. Laws that conflict or are redundant should be abolished – any new law should have an automatic expiration date and our lawmakers should work to make them better or allow them to die.
If you click the link to The Gazette, you’ll notice a couple ads in the sidebar for what appears to be a local gun range.
I found that refreshing. A lot of news outlets wouldn’t think of allowing such ads.
Not a rifle because barrel is not rifled. Not a shotgun because it doesn’t fire “fixed shotgun shells”. Perhaps ATF said “Ok fine, a .223 cartridge is not a fixed shotgun shell”.
I think some folks will see this one way. But let’s hope we can have open minds. The title “pay criminals not to commit crimes” attracts a certain response. Same kind of comment about guns is considered low dealing around here. The program includes harsh discipline, rewards, mentors and support.
If you’re not a criminal you’ve learned certain behaviors that support your good behavior. (I bet you don’t drive the speed limit on expressways.) 🙂
If you are a criminal you’ve learned certain behaviors that support that behavior. When adults show you that they want to depend on you it goes a long way to the youth feeling a part of society. The pay in this instance is chump change. These kids have $25k in their pockets.
This program is cheaper than jail and is less expensive than the cost of the first responders etc.
As a society we are trying to give a leg up to those who didn’t have the same experience that most of us had or wish we had. Only a few among us are psychologically ill. The rest to stop being crooked need to feel worthy, to be disciplined for messing up and to have actual good guidance and support.
It is lazy on our parts to think “they” just want to be this way. It is lazy for the liberals to label gun owners as a “type” of person who chooses violence. Read the book “Nickel & Dimed”, if you think it is easy to live on minimum wage in America. So if you saw no way to feed your family what would you do? If you saw no men employed around you, what example do you have. Why aren’t these men employed? Records. Why? War on drugs. Why are they absent? War on Drugs. Ask Pres. Nixon about that.
In Mass. bail for the same crime is $10k for a white and $20k for a black.
It is hard to be poor in America. It’s made a crime. It’s hard to be white and poor. It’s harder to be black and poor. If you think it’s not true do some research.
If a program gets bangers to stop banging and become productive then why not? You get PT after an accident. Your insurance puts your roof back on your house. Because of shared risk you don’t pay the value of this help and repair. Why not extend this to people’s lives?
I have a “Modest Proposal”:
How about not paying them in $$$ but pay them in kind….kinda..
A one time payment in lead. No recidivism and no incarceration costs.
It will eventually approach 100% reduction in crime.
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I’m not sure that “notable” and “Taurus” should be in the same sentence together. In my experience with Taurus, I’d argue “notorious” and “Taurus” typically blend well.
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