With the NRA Annual Meeting coming up we’re starting to see a flurry of new gun releases, and the latest one is from Rossi. I was pretty enamored with the .45 Colt/.410 Tuffy Survivor they released not long back, and now they dropped a whole family of compact, lightweight, single-shot break open rifles called, appropriately enough, the Rossi LWC (Lightweight Carbine).
The LWCs sport synthetic stocks and 16.5-inch threaded barrels, so they come suppressor ready out of the box. I’ve been eyeballing a single shot for suppressor use for a while now so I’m going to give these a hard look. With a single shot you have no gas escaping from the action, and no noise from the action itself when you fire other than the hammer dropping. Overall length is a super compact 31.5 inches, and weight is about 5.24 pounds. The frame is steel with a polymer overlay, and the barrel is all steel with a black oxide finish. The guns have a Picatinny rail for mounting optics, and no iron sights are provided. They also come with sling swivel studs and a cross-bolt safety.
Aside from being a nice, compact, suppressor-ready package, the thing that impressed me was the variety of calibers that they’re going to be available in, including 350 Legend, .300 Blackout, 5.56, 6.5 Creedmoor, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and 8.6 Blackout. It looks like the .350 Legend and .300 Blackout ones are available now, with the others on the way.
The Rossi LWC looks like a great camp rifle in general with its wide range of calibers, light weight and compact size. It’s a good-looking package in my mind, and it has a very reasonable MSRP of only $333.99, too.
Iron sights.
yes
“Iron sights.”
I can overlook no iron sights on a rifle that will sell for under $300 retail. I’m looking hard at this as a mate for for my .300 BLK AR-pattern rifle.
You can get a decent 3 MOA red dot for about $120, and that’s as good my my eyes now will let me shoot…
This gunm is for throwing, and clubbing *BANG*, then when you throw or club the Polar Bear you’ll bust off the red dot.
While true, Marsupial One, Polar Bears are few and far between down here in Florida…
Global Whining is driving them South
What did they do with their line of dual and triple swap barrel rifle/shotguns? Great stuff.
they sold them my son who gave them to his then girlfriend to impress her who later dumped him and now nobody knows where they are
One of those ‘then girlfriends’ has one of my Taurus .357s…
*mutter*
At least it was the Taurus, not the S&W, Colt, or Ruger. 😉
Quite true, and I got a *screaming* good deal on it, so no big loss…
A neat idea to replace the old school H&R Handi Rifle. These would be cool as a suppressor host, the 357/44 mag, 8.6 blk and 300blk would be where my mind goes first. I’d stick a low power optic on it and have a blast. I’d also be tempted to mod it and make it so the suppressor used part of the barrel as its tube as to not increase the OAL.
Will barrels be interchangeable? If so, that would be neat.
Never heard of 8.6 black. Whats the story on that caliber? Checking wiki in the meantime.
By the same creator of .300 BLK, it uses a 6.5mm Creedmoor as a parent case…
.338 bullets could use a bit more development and variety but I think this may be a primarily factory load option for a while……… unless someone polycoats some really heavy hard cast options.
Hmm. I already have the Rossi break-action rifle with 22-inch barrel chambered in .44 Magnum. However, it does NOT have a threaded barrel. I was thinking about paying a gunsmith to thread the end of the barrel so that I could hunt with a suppressor. I have to imagine that a gunsmith would charge every bit of $150 to thread the barrel. At that point I might as well double that to $300 and just get an entirely new rifle with the shorter barrel which is a better configuration if I hang an 8-inch long suppressor off of the end of it.
As the author stated, a single-shot rifle is going to be amazingly quiet with a suppressor because there is no action to cycle (which generates a surprising amount of sound). That still leaves the bullet creating a supersonic crack as it moves through the air. The report of the “blast” itself, though, will be effectively zero since the longer barrel already reduces the “blast” of .44 Magnum.
The only remaining question is whether or not I would purchase a new rifle in .357 Magnum or .44 Magnum. I have to say that I am leaning toward .357 Magnum which should be effective for white-tailed deer hunting out to 100 yards with the extra velocity of the long barrel.
There are a new breed of extra-quiet cans in the .30 cal range, just the ticket for a rifle like that…
I’ve shot deer with both 357 and 44, I’ll take the 44 every time.
To me 357 seemed like 243, itll work with good shot placement
And since I close my eyes and yank the trigger good shot placement is iffy
possum,
I was kind of figuring the same regarding .357 Magnum versus .44 Magnum when it comes to white-tailed deer hunting. The simple fact of the matter is that .44 Magnum is superior to .357 Magnum when hunting. That last statement is simply the real world confirming the saying, “There is no replacement for displacement!”
Continuing on that thought, I am now thinking that a SWEET combination would be this new Rossi break-action rifle with 16.5-inch barrel chambered in .44 Magnum + a suppressor + .44 Special 255 grain Keith semi-wadcutter hardcast loads. If the .44 Special 255 grain bullet is subsonic, it should be rock solid to at least 60 yards for taking deer and dead-nuts quiet. If it ends up being supersonic out of the 16.5-inch barrel, it should be rock solid to at least 100 yards for taking deer although it would only be fairly quiet and no longer be dead-nuts quiet.
A lot of guys sent their Handi Rifle 357 mag barrels to Bellm to have them drilled out to 357 Max. That’s a sweet deer killer. 350 Legend ballistics but with a rimmed case and proper .357 or .358 bullets, not 9mm. But, it’s a handloader’s proposition. This rifle would do similar. I already have both of those cartridges though, so was I to buy one of these rifles, I’d get the 44 and drill it out to 445 to be a companion for the revolver.
I have 2 youth model shotguns. A Mossberg 500 and a Rossie single shot. Both in 20 ga. That Rossi works. Works well. But it is so light, maybe 5 pounds, that you have to be careful of what loads you start a kid on. Recoil is downright brutal with slugs and 3 inch buck loads.
But the youth model guns are gateway drugs for kids.
My mind immediately begins to wonder how well some super heavy grained 44 magnum could be suppressed out of an appropriate sized can. Then I remember I live in NY and some forms of fun will have to wait until we have the money for a second residence but in America.
How about a FIRST residence in free America?
Getting a bit pedantic and no I meant exactly what I said.
“My mind immediately begins to wonder how well some super heavy grained 44 magnum could be suppressed out of an appropriate sized can.”
That’s why God created the .44 Special with a heavy slug.
Legal work is happening on getting NFA toys for you folks trapped in slave states…
See some rumbles of it but I realize it will be a long time coming with a lot of other priorities. With that said I really do not feel like trimming down to 44 special length or searching for 44 special brass so 300+ grain it would be.
Underwood has some pretty stout .44 Spl’s.
Back when I could easily mail order ammo sure. Now it is far less hassle to just reload and not let NY have any idea what kind of ammo I have, how much, or how often I go through it.
Watch out for 1 is enough.
It worked for Baldwin and Quigley
FINALLY!
A good offering at an acceptable price.
CVA (Connecticut Valley Arms) makes much better single-shot rifles, including the CVA Scout V2, which are takedown rifles, made of stainless steel, made in USA, far higher quality than Rossi*, and also in a huge variety of calibers including ones with threaded barrels (and stainless steel).
I own a CVA Scout V2 takedown rifle, and it’s excellent.
*After my awful experience with Rossi (don’t get me started on how awful their defective POS rifle was!), I’ll never buy a Rossi again.
Rossi even refused to honor their warranty when they sold me a new gun that had about a dozen defects in it, some of them dangerous defects, but that’s a long story for another day.
I have a CVA Scout rifle in 450 Bushmaster, that I won at a sportsmen’s banquet raffle. Makes me feel like I’m hunting Cape Buffalo. It has a 26″ barrel that you really don’t need all of, and I’m considering trading some of it for a suppressor.
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