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“I think it’s important on a day like today to view this as I know the president, as a father does and I as a father and others who are parents certainly do, which is to feel enormous sympathy for families that are affected and to do everything we can to support state and local law enforcement and support those who are enduring what appears to be a very tragic event.  There is, I’m sure, will be, rather, a day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates but I don’t think today is that day.” – Jay Carney, White House Spokesman [via CNN]

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  1. We really need to streamline the Death Penalty. only capital offenses, one appeal at the state supreme court level, execution within 3 years of conviction

      • You’re right, i wrote that right when i found out. i was angry. But they do need to make it so someone isn’t sitting on death row for 15-20 years. shit or get off the pot

  2. It is usually good investment advice not to put all your financial eggs in the same basket and trust that things will work out. Likewise, it might not be best to secure all your firearms in the same place and manner if you get my drift.

    • I hope we’re not seeing the beginning of another cascade of mass shootings. When one happens, it tends to inspire other mentally defective subhumans to try the same thing themselves.

      Prayers for the families and survivors.

    • Don’t fall into the same trap as the gun-grabbers – over reporting does not indicate acceleration of occurrence. Mass shootings are still rare events.

  3. I’m not paranoid enough (yet) to think that these recent shootings are somehow engineered, but the Gun Grabbers could not have gotten a better Christmas present, wrapped with a bow and everything. My heart breaks for the families, as for myself, I am battening down the hatches, because the storm is definitely coming now.

  4. This may be the straw that breaks the horses back. (I hate camels). Big $h!t storm commin’ this way. Unless you have old guns or unregistered guns hiding them won’t help. If you followed the law and did the paper work they will follow the NICS records and put you in the slammer unless you produce the weapons on the list.

    • Our economy sucks so today probably isnt the day for that either lol

      I agree that it is a rational thought. Maybe semi-rational at best. But we all know the people who issued this statement are behind closed doors talking about it now.

  5. Its terrible what happened, myself and many others Ive been around are at a loss for words. My thoughts are with the families, children and staff. Also my thoughts are with my brother and sister first responders who will also have to live with this. A call involving a child can very hard to deal with, dont be ashamed to seek counseling and CISD.

    Anyways, I feel on the contrary this is the time to discuss gun control. More so why it dosnt #u@&ing work!

  6. Well I guess it is time to teach my guns some Harry Houdini magic!!!
    And I guess I need to find some old steel tubing etc to melt down so I can say hey look.. Mine burned up on an unfortunate camping accident!!! Too poor to own a boat or rent one!!!
    Death Penalty carried out as soon as the appeal is turned down, no sitting on the taxpayers dollar for ever and a day!
    Our prayers and condolences to all the folks and especially the kids involved in today’s tragedy!!

  7. I know I posted this exact quote in the other thread, and while I applaud their restraint, I simultaneously have to acknowledge that it’s not just feelings of sympathy that prompt the “today is not the day” comment. It’s also with the full and complete knowledge that if they tried to push anti-gun legislation of some kind today, in the heat of the moment, before the facts are known, there would likely be enough backlash that whatever they were pushing wouldn’t succeed.

  8. The problem with “losing” your guns in a boating or similar accident and then reporting them lost to a LEO is that you’ll never be able use them again, even legally in public or as a DGU. Assuming that it gets to the point where “assault” weapons or handguns are banned and retroactively collected (which I doubt will happen, but this is for the sake of arguement), if it gets to that point, I can see LE tactics and laws enacted that make it mandatory to check serial numbers at ranges for lawful ownership. Cops and everyone’s favorite, the ATF will show up and conduct random spot checks. Sightings of scary black rifles or even hearing gunshots will bring down locals and feds alike to investigate. Even if the gun is still in a legal catagory, if you’re found to be in possession of a gun you said was lost, you would now be chaged with some sort charge related to providing false info. That could even be a felony offense if things really got bad. If the laws are overturned and sanity restored, those guns will still have to be broght back from the dead. If you lied about where they went, that lie never goes away. So in effect, if you go this route, you’ll have to bury them in your back yard and pray they are never discovered. Maybe you kids, kids, grandkids can dig them up and use them when enough time has elapsed.

  9. Im sickened by the crimes there. Im just as sick as by the media to use this on the same day to ban our rights reporters make me almost as sick!!!!!!

  10. If only one teacher/principal in that school was carrying.

    This is what happens when you breed a nation of cowards. No one should be surprised.

  11. In our “modern and civilized” society it is morally accepted (!) and politically supported (!) to render people defenseless and to frequently SACRIFICE (!!!) innocent people – instead of FACING the reality and allowing the people to DEFEND themselves.


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