Palm Beach County Walmart Mask Gun
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Is there a more volatile mix than two Florida Men in a Walmart? It doesn’t seem so. Then throw in a confrontation over wearing a mask — or the lack thereof — and things can (and sometimes do) escalate quickly.

It’s just a matter of time before one of these mask-related disputes results in a shot being fired.

From the AP:

An unmasked man pulled a gun on a masked shopper and threatened to kill him during an apparent confrontation over masks at a Florida Walmart store, sheriff’s officials said.

The Royal Palm Beach store’s security video shows the unmasked man pushing an older man in a wheelchair through the store on Saturday afternoon, the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office said in a Facebook post. Sheriff’s officials said they have identified the man, who is cooperating with detectives. They have not released his name.

The man in the wheelchair pulled a red neckerchief over his mouth in the store.

The video shows a shopper wearing a mask approach the pair and exchange words. That’s when the unmasked man gives the shopper the middle finger before pulling a handgun from his waistband, the sheriff’s office said. The unmasked man made a death threat before leaving the store.

In the video, a young girl reaches for the masked man’s hand to pull him away. Another person is seen trying to intervene.

The man then pushes the wheelchair to the parking lot and the pair left in a white Chevrolet Equinox SUV, sheriff’s officials said.

No one was injured during the dispute, officials said.

Investigators are searching for the gunman. An investigation continues.

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308 COMMENTS

  1. There’s that 1% making life rough for the rest of us. Just makes you want to take out back the woodshed and beat a little bit of common sense and common decency into him. Now Bloomberg and Soros will have more stuff to stir up their organizations with.

    • Agreed.

      Showing a complete lack of concern for others.

      There are great masks out there and if everyone wears them, transmission slows.

        • Exactly, the guy with the mask should mind his own business. The other guy should have ignored the “Karen”. The mask is only a sign of subservance and does no good.

        • Shut the F up. The mask isn’t to protect you, it’s to catch the germs if you cough, sneeze or talk. The mask is just like using a tissue if you sneeze. My mask protects you from my germs. Your mask protects me from your germs. If you don’t want to wear a mask avoid public places, don’t pull a gun.

        • These types of masks are not made to keep microscopic viruses IN or OUT…FACT. Name one model or manufacturer…yeah, I didn’t think so…also please tell us why there are not thousands of dead homeless strewn all across America’s streets…they don’t wear masks, have no soap, don’t social distance…they don’t have toilets, etc. If you are so gullible and fearful you should stay home and order online…

        • @Jeff the Griz
          Masks are as effective at stopping viruses as underwear is at stopping farts.

        • At GK and tissue paper doesn’t catch all the germ when you sneeze but it helps. If people wash their hands, wear a mask, care for their immune sysytem and issolate when/if they show symptoms it’ll be the best possible solution for our society.

        • Agreed. I’ve been in medical for 25+ years. There is NO clinical data that validates masks stop the spread of COVID. Last time I checked, this still was a free society, so everyone should be afforded the choice. If one person believes that a mask is making them safer, then by all means wear one, but don’t force me to wear one. Besides, if you believe the mask is keeping you safe when you wear one, what difference does it make if another person isn’t wearing one in your presence while you are masked? The non-masked person in this story is clearly a douche by how he reacted, but on a lesser douchey note, but still douchey, why did the masked individual feel he should confront him in the first place?

        • Guess we won’t be seeing you at Wamart. Walmart requires all customers to wear mags.

          And we better not see you using a seatbelt–a true sign of subservience.

        • Seatbelt laws have nothing to do with mask laws. Seatbelts are worn for your own protection. Masks are (allegedly) worn for the protection of the community.

          There is incontrovertible evidence that seatbelts greatly reduce the risk of serious injury and death. The clinical evidence that paper or homemade cloth masks prevents infection is non-existent. At best, it slightly reduces the concentration of expelled water droplet-borne viruses during a sneeze.

        • Jeff, wrong. If you confront me for not wearing a mask and get closer than 6 feet, then what good is your mask with all it’s flaws and openings? Mind your own fucking business.

        • Montana Actual. I won’t confront you. It is not my job to police the world, but I will be distancing from you.

        • Perfect! That’s reasonable and what people should be doing. It’s a choice to wear a mask. It’s a choice to shop at certain locations. Breathe in the infections on your saturate mask in those required places if you want to. I’m good.

        • Exactly. Should you pull a gun over it? Nah. But give him the bird and at least wait for physical assault before the draw.

        • Hey Jeff the Gritz.. If you don’t want to be around people like me, who don’t wear what the government mandates.. Stay the fuck at home where you belong!

        • Ralph H. Maybe you should read the comments. I am okay with your right to be in public without a mask. That doesn’t mean I need to go near you, let alone belittle you. But your right to choose to not wear a mask means absolutely nothing when the owner of private property request you do so or leave, in that request I support the property owner.

        • Procedure masks or surgical masks have always been the standard for droplet precautions. There have been plenty of studies showing their effectiveness for droplets if worn properly.

          When you smell a fart you are smelling gas molecules. That is totally different than a droplet. Droplets range in size from 1 micron up, and surgical masks will filter 78% to 97% of 1 micron particles. Obviously it will filter more of larger particles. A methane molecule (one of the constituent gases in farts) is 5.575 cubic angstrum which is 0.0005575 microns (a cubic angstrom is 1/10000th of a micron). This is why surgical masks, and even N95 masks, won’t filter fart smell. Oxygen atoms are about .00012 microns (1.2 angstroms). Now in my experience the limited air flow through a mask that filters more will reduce the smell from farts because there is not enough flow to carry a significant amount of gas through the mask.

        • The problem is we did read the comments, and you led with “shut the f up…. your mask protects you, my mask protects me”. It wasn’t until after I called you out that you mentioned being okay with it. So why even comment if you are okay with it, but get enraged enough to tell someone to shut the f up about not wanting to wear one? You got exposed, now deal with it.

        • Montana read the time stamps with his SRK massive Cap lock down below. That’s why I was telling him to shut it.

        • To make this easier, this was at the bottom of my below comment I posted just before the Shut the F up.

          “I’m all about freedom, you’re free to not wear your mask, but the store is also free to kick your ass out.”

        • Are all you pro mask people going to wear a mask forever?

          Because that is what the goal is.

          I wore a mask for awhile during all this then stopped recently, because I realized the mask thing isn’t about COVID…. It’s about control.

        • It is about control. Also, what happens when a mask is not enough. What happens with they want you wearing a plastic 360 degree shield? Does nobody find it odd that children who get sick every week in school because of germs spreading are somehow exempt from these mask policies? Hell, they are the ones I worry about the most. Weak immune systems. But instead, we see parents with masks, and kids being told not to touch anything like they will instantly die if they do. Never minds the worst part about airborne spread. It’s all about control. These kids will grow up fucked up, the same way the kids rioting and looting currently did.

        • The mask is not to protect you, it’s to protect others. If you have little regard for others, then why should they have any for you? Granted, it’s not foolproof, wearing a mask and keeping your distance is just a band-aid for now. I do not argue with anybody, I just stay away. Situational awareness, see trouble, leave, or hang back until the area is clear. Getting into a brawl or a firefight with some idiot, on either side, is not conductive to good health in any case. Better to be “scared” than stupid.

        • Masks make you uncomfortable, increasing the likelihood that you’ll stay home. More people staying home will decrease the spread of Covid. Not opening schools will also require more people to stay home, to care for kids who cannot catch Covid but can drown in the bathtub. I am at risk. I stay home. Everybody else, especially kids, should have forgotten this bullshit by now.

        • Adverse6: You said it! “Not full proof”

          Enough said then. And being scared is part of being stupid in this topic.

        • @Jeff the Griz

          OH, IT IS?!

          I guess that’s why I feel my dentist breaking on me even if its indirectly, we are still sucking in the same cloud of air. The mask is nothing but a muzzle, a mark of compliance and obedience to the state. It’s sole purpose it so visually demonstrate who is a good little sheep, and who refuses to comply. Its just another Hegelian division, the masked and the unmasked, with the solution to both being more consolidated and centralized state power and ANOTHER vaccine rushed out in record time.

          Look how damn divided this blog is on the subject! Everyone here is supposed to be predominately right wing gun owners, religious, etc, yet the mask is another division. Who gains? A house divided against itself can’t stand.

          Nevermind steroidal inhalers, or Hydroxychloroquine, cheap drugs, big pharma wants to ram through another money maker, they didn’t get to fleece the nation with Remdesivir and Ebola, so now they want to recoup costs by marketing it as a treatment for WuFlu.

          If the state backed off and stopped telling people of the United States what to do, more people might wear it; Americans do not take kindly to being ordered around like cattle.

          Dare I say the mask is a reminder that the mark of the beast is still coming. A lot of people aren’t allowed to travel without the mask, not allowed to buy or sell without the mask, or work without the mask. Woe, how quickly and easily such a thing can come about.

          Wait until you are required to have an immunity passport before you can work, travel, or conduct commerce. It may be your phone, it may be an injectable RFID, or maybe its just a card; different strokes for different folks, all compliance and acceptance. Inevitably, your political, religious, and college affiliations will also be tacked on under the guise of mental health. A brand spanking new citizen’s passport for a good little sheep.

          I think most of the same people who wear the symbol of compliance are the same people who will put their hand out for the mark or hop into the cattle cars in pure bliss. The reason is irrelevant, be it ignorance, compliance, convenience, fear, the path of least resistance, many will accept it, willingly, begrudgingly, or through coercion.

          If someone else wants to get the latest injections, distance themselves from other people, and wear a mask that is all the rage in fashion, go for it, just leave me alone. If the world is so scary that they can’t walk outside without trying to coerce others, then stay home.

        • @ Happy Gunsel

          Only on paper, walmart doesn’t actually enforce it here since they would lose too much business, on top of it being asinine. Also, I shop at places that don’t require a mask.

          The mask is nothing but a symbol of compliance and obedience to the state; a visual mark of separation between the good sheep and people who refuse to be ordered around. Another Hegel!an division, even the blog is divided by it.

      • You’re a FOOL, just like all the other lemmings that are conforming to this BS!

        Any REAL doctor or scientist (I’m a biologist) will tell you that wearing these masks is more detrimental than beneficial, based on scientific and medical facts, not supposition:

        FACT 1: Masks do not/cannot prevent viral intrusion. Viruses are too small to be filtered by them. Period.
        FACT 2: Masks DO suppress the immune system by forcing wearers to re-inhale their bacteria-laden CO2 (carbon dioxide); a waste product the body is trying to expel in order to take in oxygen.
        FACT 3: Blood is normally between 7.3 to 7.4 on the pH scale which means it’s slightly alkaline. The inability to expel carbon dioxide quickly enough lowers the pH, causing respiratory acidosis which is unhealthy.
        FACT 4: Long-term mask use causes hypoxia, a condition that can inhibit the type of main immune cells used to fight viral infections (CD4+T-lymphocyte). Any infection – including COVID-19 – is now easier to contract.
        FACT 5: According to 17 of the best scientific studies, there exists no conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.
        FACT 6: If Fauci et al had any real interest in public health they would be stressing the importance of keeping one’s IMMUNE SYSTEM healthy (especially optimizing vitamin D3 – plus C and zinc) and taking reasonable precautions like
        frequent hand washing. “A healthy body harbors no disease.”
        FACT 7: These masks are designed for short term use, and yet most of the people wearing them are doing so for hours, days, even weeks longer than intended. And they are USELESS when saturated with moisture.

        This whole mask issue is a placebo. Any medical personnel who support this mask crap should lose their medical license!

        • The amazing mask weave that is too coarse to filter out the virus, but somehow holds in CO2 molecules…. “FACT”

        • Can we all agree that the mask neither keeps out NOR holds in both viruses and C02 molecules?

        • FACT: the CO2 is held by a mask and rebreathed. Has to do with volume and repetitious timing. Do comment above your paygrade.

        • “bacteria-laden CO2”?

          And you are a medical doctor???

          The mask isn’t there for gasses, it’s there to catch the larger droplets exhaled or inadvertently spat when speaking…

        • Normal blood PH is 7.35 to 7.45. If your blood PH 7.3 you are having a serious problem that isn’t going to correct itself without intervention.

        • “FACT 4: Long-term mask use causes hypoxia“

          So by your logic, this means that experience the doctors and nurses are slightly brain dead?

          Hilarious.

          Every grocery store and restaurant has a sign that says no shirt, no shoes, no service, reasonable health department rules that no one has a problem complying with.

          What is so different about wearing a mask?

          Do you people also advocate walking barefoot into McDs or shedding your shirt before you sit down at Denny’s?

        • “Do you people also advocate walking barefoot into McDs or shedding your shirt before you sit down at Denny’s?”

          Personally, I wouldn’t care. In fact I probably wouldn’t even notice unless it was an attractive young lady removing her shirt. Then I would likely applaud!

        • “bacteria-laden CO2”

          Boy howdy, then there is some teeny tiny bacteria, to infest a molecule.

        • Are pants waterproof? No. FACT.

          Imagine you’re standing, pantless, in front of another guy, also pants less. (No homo). Now imagine the other guy starts urinating. Now you’ve got urine on your legs.

          Now imagine that YOU are wearing pants. The other guy, still pantless, lets flow. Now you’ve got urine on your pants, and your legs are still damp and need a cleaning.

          Now imagine the OTHER guy is wearing pants. He starts to go, and you see a big ol stain spread down his legs. It’s nasty, but you and your pants are fine, even though pants aren’t waterproof.

          That’s how masks help.

          That said, any rando that gets up in anyone else’s business and starts claiming they feel threatened by that person not wearing a mask needs their sense of personal risk of harm recalibrated.

        • It’s not about risk or disease, it is about control. With a bit of virtue signalling thrown in.

        • I watched people on MSM channels take their mask down to speak, then stick their dirty fingers INSIDE the mask to pull it back up. This whole thing is absolutely absurd.

          I desire to ask these people… just how is sticking your dirty fingers inside a mask, restricting oxygen, and suppressing your immune system, supposed to help protect you from a virus?

      • There is also evidence masks can’t stop a virus and that covid-19 has a 98% recovery rate, it’s not the bubonic plague dems and the media want us to believe while they destroy Trump’s economy hoping to win the next election. But you communists liberals just go ahead and surrender your rights and freedoms to the government like good little sheep, and the U.S. will be just like North Korea.

      • Those “great” masks don’t stop anything. Unless you’re using actual N100 masks with the proper face seals, you’re just giving yourself a false sense of security. And if you rally believe that official government line, then you shouldn’t have anything to worry about nobody else is wearing a mask.

        • Here’s a fun experiment. Stand close to a mirror, put on a homemade cloth mask, and cough. Now take off the mask and cough. See all the little saliva droplets on the mirror? That’s a big way the virus spreads.

          That’s not to mention the fact that masks help remind you not to touch your face.

      • wear a mask all you want. Due process, Bill of Rights, 9th amendment, 14th amendment…fuck masks. Right to privacy et cetera….

        • I love the fits facial recognition software is going through lately. Also n95 with the exhale valve would negate most of the concern of CO2 but would not do much for protecting others. As to protective properties who knows but might help and if not I would be screwed anyway. Either way masks are mandatory up my way so mostly just finding ways to avoid crowds and do what I need to do anyway.

      • The man without a mask was in the wrong, make no mistake about it, however I listen to the news, Fox where two different Doctors, one a Cardiologist and I don.t recall what the other was, but according to both, during the Flu epidemic where a test conducted by exposing masked people to those who tested positive for the Flu and was running a fever at the time of volunteers being exposed to the infected group with an equal number of masked and unmasked people there was no difference between those who contacted the Flu while wearing a mask and those who were not masked. So, unless the doctors were lying why should anyone have to wear a mask that is mandated?

        • How do you know the guy without the mask was in the wrong? How do you know the mask Nazi didn’t threaten the unmasked man with serious bodily injury or death? Sure seems like the “news” picked their side. They also seem to pick their side without all the facts. You’re in good company.

        • Long ago the public allowed government the authority to mandate articles of clothing, a mask is an article of clothing, I don’t think an argument that government does not have the authority to mandate wear is going to fly. I also think it will make little or no difference in the disease, the goal is to affect the election. If we are stupid enough to allow that, we deserve the result.

      • Agreed.

        Showing a complete lack of concern for others.

        There are great masks out there and if everyone wears them, transmission slows.

        To what end? You think you are going to hide from the virus forever?

        • This. There is one reason the flu is not as bad as it was when it first started: immune systems doing their job. Evolution. Not “slowing the spread”. Every disease is worse than the last one. Why? Bigger populations in closer quarters. Plain and simple.

        • There’s also the problem that many, if not most, Americans have become serious germophobes. Wipes, wash your hands 50 times a day, clean everything with bleach or other disinfectant – daily or more, etc, etc, etc. Let your immune system learn to do it’s job and you won’t get sick as often when you are exposed. I’m definitely in the get, get over it (or not), and move on camp. I almost never get sick. I don’t disinfect everything all the time, I just keep it reasonably clean and yes, I work in my yard without gloves and sometimes eat a sandwich without washing my hands first. Also, let your minor wounds heal without Neosporin or some other OTC antibiotic or a bandaid. Basically, teach your system to work through exposure to germs that it should be able to handle and when the tougher ones come along you’ll fare much better.

          I’ve never had strep, I can’t remember the last time I had the flu and I don’t get flu shots, and I don’t get head colds ever – I did when I was young but if you ignore it it will go away. I do get exposed to these things all the time because I don’t concern myself about it. I do not concern myself about WuFlu either.

          Want to know why we have the highest death rate in the world? Look to germophobia as the root cause – along with Cuomo forcing retirement homes to take WuFlu positive patients without providing (and while hoarding – I mean “stockpiling”) PPE.

        • Anonymous, I am also deeply into the concept of living more naturally, but I am also 73 and seriously overweight, and I spent 40 years as a heavy smoker (which never bothered me a bit, health wise), all of which makes me leery of this disease, so I’m staying home and avoiding most risks. I feel if I get it now, it may just kill me, so I’ll work harder to avoid it until vaccine/mitigation is available. But for others I make no such recommendation, even my kids, although they avoid contact mainly because of the bride, who is dealing with cancer and seriously compromised even compared to me. So far, this ain’t so tough, mostly because I spent my life taking care of business, I’m not about to starve.

      • I don’t know what the two masked guys said, perhaps they threatened the other guy. If two masked individuals threaten me I’d probably pull mine too.

      • Show me the peer reviewed, double-blind studies that show cloth masks are effective enough that wearing one mitigates the risks, and virus transmission and does not cause me undue harm by reducing my oxygen and becoming an absolute petri dish of bacteria, blocking off our natural pathway to properly dispose of virus’ and bacteria and a harm to my immune system. Masks outside of specific instances like surgery or ICU especially without proper decontamination procedures is an absolute farce, it is ritualistic cucking and ceremonial initiation of your loss of self to the “new woke order”. The NIH in 2018 did a peer reviewed study of N95 and cloth masks and found no significant positive effects, but warns of the risks, especially long term use of masks.

        Well, they have to have medical exemptions, and by law you do not have to prove it or disclose it under HIPAA so go out, claim medical exemption status. Wear a mask if you want, but as for me mind your own damn business. If you want to play along, pit the mask under your nose, breathe from your nose and satisfy all the scared morons out there afraid of a virus with a .02 case fatality rate, same as flu. The media is distorting your beliefs, if science wins the day then why are you following it, cause I just gave it to you. It is called “plandemic” for a reason, this is being used as cover for action to bring in a new world order on every level. Keep thinking with your reptilian pea brains and live in fear, that is exactly how they want you to be. As for me, I have the Lord, and I have the facts.

    • Yeah ok RANDY…. you’re mouth running is gonna get you in trouble once of these days….
      You’re gonna “take someone behind the shed”?…. what, to give him a BJ?….

    • Really, the triggered mask guy just HAD to bother somebody, didn’t he. That 1% of Karens who just can’t leave people alone.

      • You are correct, and while the irate man who pulled his gun was absolutely wrong you can BET the masked man will be a whole lot more polite about it next time around.

        “Well, in the first place, an armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. For me, politeness is the sine qua non of civilization. […] But gunfighting has a strong biological use. We do not have enough things that kill off the weak and stupid these days….” – Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

      • I know. F****** Karens everywhere. Even in the comments section of this article.

        Mandating masks != freedom. And government mandates always have collateral damage.

        If masks are so great, keep yours on, and leave other people alone.

    • There actually is no such thing as “common sense” and to expect it to appear will leave one waiting in despair. “Logical” does exist but who practices that sort of thinking?

    • Truth is——- the mask wearing SHEEP believe the BS while, the rest of us aren’t buying it. So, if you believe you somehow have the right to condemn we non-sheep… you’re kidding yourselves. YOU sob’s are what is wrong with this country. Lick government boots all you want. But, don’t try to drag the rest of us into your psychosis.

      • Fine perhaps, jail time no, if he shot or pistol whipped Karen then I can see that. Brandishing to get morons to FO should be a fine plain and simple.

        BTW unless you are wearing a NBC or a HAZMAT suit you are doing absolutely nothing to protect yourself from Coronovirus. This so includes properly decontaminating before you remove the suit. This world is just full of morons.

      • My view is that he obviously was not, since he did not fire. I would simply ignore the doofus unless he made a credible threat to harm me, and then I would drawandfire as a single move. Waving a gun around is NEVER going to be a good idea.

        • Its prudent to assume in this day and age that if some random stranger approaches me and starts giving me a hard time, verbally berating me, etc, that they do not have my best interest at heart and could turn violent at any moment.

          Why can’t people people leave other people alone?

    • Cannot criminalize a Constitutionally protected activity. Gun guy did nothing wrong…. with the exception of not shooting busy-body negro guy between the eyes.

  2. The guy who started the confrontation should stay home and order online…even walmart said they would not enforce the wearing of masks…so basically the man not wearing a mask was assaulted by the one wearing a mask. He is not a walmart rep or “mask police”…get the tf outta here with that nazi gestapo BULLSHIT…already.

        • “A threat to attempt or commit such an action.” The guy with mask was also using his size to confront and intimidate the guy pushing wheelchair occupant…so there is that.

        • At the very least, it’s harassment, and some people are fed up enough to not tolerate it at all. The “lawlessness” (freedom?) and civil unrest (freedom?) we have seen in 2020 warrants no faith in a civil argument. Mind your own business, go home alive.

      • “Verbal confrontation equals “assault”???”

        According to Leftists, words are the same as a thrown punch…

      • I don’t like mask mandates either, but I would disagree with you that businesses can’t enforce them. A private business can absolutely require customers or anyone else entering their private property to wear masks, or shoes, or bedazzled cowboy hats, for that matter. Provided the rule doesn’t result in discrimination against a protected class of citizen, a private business which is open to the public can require anything they want. If they ask you to leave for failing to follow their rules and you don’t, you’re guilty of trespassing.

        • yeah tell that to the bakers of non gay cakes. my right to refuse anyone service. unless they are gay. discrimination is a two-sided coin. don’t like my business don’t go there, I don’t like yours, I don’t go there. the due process clause protects everyone, except straight white Christian men.

        • You don’t even have to be religious… just white. Now, it’s any race without a mask. But being white and unmasked certainly means you are a white supremacist who wants to kill people. Obviously.

        • Somehow, it seems to me like an unmasked white supremacist who is looking to kill somebody would be a good person to leave alone! I suspect, instead, that this guy thought he had carte blanche to threaten and intimidate another while virtue signalling how wonderful he was. He did not expect to be opposed.

    • maybe time to change the “rules” a bit. Because the harasser certainly got the point seeing it. Universal language? Don’t start none, won’t be none.

      • I would not allow him to be found guilty if I were on the jury, so long as he did not shoot the guy. When asked why, I would simply answer that CCW requirement is unconstitutional.

  3. any more evidence about what was said by the men before gun was pulled there needs to be audio or something to prove what was said and whether the other man there was involved because nowadays most blacks will back up another no matter what really happened been there seen it happen

    • I grew up seeing it happen. I was always the “white boy”. Groupe of people (blacks) you didn’t know? You had zero help. Same can be said for most races, sure, but certainly there is a HUGE race problem amongst blacks they refuse to acknowledge. I am seeing more decent people now days though. Despite what the media shows us. There are a lot, the majority in fact. It’s always been that way otherwise America would still be a slave country like the 5 billion worldwide that are still enslaved to this day… no riots about that tho…

  4. I don’t wear a mask but I am not going to draw on someone who wants to make an issue about it unless they are making me feel like I am in danger. No one has ever said anything audible to me about a mask, but if they do a polite eff off will be my response.

    • Looks like this guy was made to feel in danger.
      But thats so unreasonable! Only “words were said”. I would pay $5 to hear what kind of words. I’m sure the masked man asked nicely if he would, please, get a mask on and definitely didn’t use any threats of violence.

      Result:
      Dead Karens – 0
      Beat up wheelchair pushers – 0
      All in all, success.

      • BS. Unmasked flipped Masked the bird before pulling his gun. How many defensive situations have you ever seen or read about that go that way? “He was coming at me with a knife. I was afraid for my life. I knew I had to fight for my life, but first, I decided to throw him the middle finger.” It’s probably more, like Unmasked got his feelings hurt, responded with a one finger salute, and the pulled his gun because he was still angry. Maybe the news story is wrong and Unmasked showed the finger rampant, Masked got angry and threatened Unmasked, and Unmasked responded to an imminent threat. Either way, he’ll have his day in court to explain.

        • Yeah, right, but not sure I could live up to that restraint. Ideally, to me, in this situation unmasked should have responded something like “If you’re scared, you should run away”, and gone on about his business, and only pulled his gun in order to fire it. I mean, let’s get real here, the idea is supposed to be that an unmasked man might transmit a fatal disease to you. If you actually believe that, are you going to approach him and confront him in a shouting match?

  5. COLORADO’S HOMOSEXUAL GOVERNOR JARED POLIS CALLED PEOPLE NOT WEARING MASKS “SELFISH BASTARDS”!! I THINK HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE!!

    THAT BEING SAID, THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN PARTY!! THIS APPEARS TO BE THE PROBLEM WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY…THERE IS NO FIGHT IN THEM…JUST ROLL OVER AND SUBMIT TO DEMOCRATS!! THAT IS THE VERY REASON WE LOST THE HOUSE!!

    • Typing in all caps is a symptom of schizophrenia unless you are just dumb enough to think your words carry more weight in caps.

      • TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS NOT A SIGN OF SCHIZOPHRENIA YOU MAROON!

        I get so tired of that idiocy. Maybe the guy above is schizo, you don’t know and neither do I. But I do know that typing in all caps is something people do for various reasons. Maybe the guy is an old bastard, and all caps is easier to read. Maybe he spent 30 years working for government, where everything was all caps. Ever seen a shipboard teletype from the sixties? I know that caps are easier to read – you’ll never confuse an L with a 1, for instance.

        Blow some of your own schizophrenia out of your ass, you snowflake.

    • srk,
      Dude there is something wrong with your keyboard, or rather two things. Not only is it stuck in all-caps mode, but it is also posting double exclamation marks every time you type a period.

      EITHER THAT, OR YOU ARE SHOUTING AT US LIKE THIS!! BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT SHOUTING IN ALL CAPS AND USING DOUBLE EXCLAMATION MARKS COMPENSATES FOR YOUR SMALL PENIS, YOUR TINY BRAIN, AND YOUR LACK OF EDUCATION!! BUT IT IS VERY ANNOYING USING ALL CAPS AND DOUBLE EXCLAMATION MARKS!! JUST LIKE THIS!! SEE WHAT I MEAN!! SHOUTING IN ALL CAPS AND DOUBLE EXCLAMATION MARKS DOES NOT EMPHASIZE YOUR POINT!! ON THE CONTRARY, IT DISTRACTS FROM IT!!

    • Once again…The mask isn’t to protect you, it’s to catch the germs if you cough, sneeze or talk. The mask is just like using a tissue if you sneeze. My mask protects you from my germs. Your mask protects me from your germs. If you don’t want to wear a mask avoid public places.

      Signed a Registered Nurse.

      I’m all about freedom, you’re free to not wear your mask, but the store is also free to kick your ass out.

      Also feel free to be stupid, just don’t be as stupid as the Florida man and pull a gun.

      • Hey STUPID! Viruses are not germs, they are far smaller than even bacteria and are NOT filtered by these masks; they will pass through just as easily as AIR!

        Any REAL doctor or scientist (I’m a biologist) will tell you that wearing these masks is more detrimental than beneficial, based on scientific and medical facts, not supposition:

        FACT 1: Masks do not/cannot prevent viral intrusion. Viruses are too small to be filtered by them. Period.
        FACT 2: Masks DO suppress the immune system by forcing wearers to re-inhale their bacteria-laden CO2 (carbon dioxide); a waste product the body is trying to expel in order to take in oxygen.
        FACT 3: Blood is normally between 7.3 to 7.4 on the pH scale which means it’s slightly alkaline. The inability to expel carbon dioxide quickly enough lowers the pH, causing respiratory acidosis which is unhealthy.
        FACT 4: Long-term mask use causes hypoxia, a condition that can inhibit the type of main immune cells used to fight viral infections (CD4 T-lymphocyte). Any infection – including COVID-19 – is now easier to contract.
        FACT 5: According to 17 of the best scientific studies, there exists no conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.
        FACT 6: If Fauci et al had any real interest in public health they would be stressing the importance of keeping one’s IMMUNE SYSTEM healthy (especially optimizing vitamin D3 – plus C and zinc) and taking reasonable precautions like
        frequent hand washing. “A healthy body harbors no disease.”
        FACT 7: These masks are designed for short term use, and yet most of the people wearing them are doing so for hours, days, even weeks longer than intended. And they are USELESS when saturated with moisture.

        This whole mask issue is a placebo. Any medical personnel who support this mask crap should lose their medical license!

        By the way, most registered nurses aren’t any brighter than the patients whose asses they wipe!

        • I used the word “germs” to simple it down. You are correct, masks aren’t perfect for viruses, but the masks do catch droplets. The viruses will hitch a ride on the droplets out of your airway, which means covering a cough will help! But getting an entire population to cover a cough just doesnt work.

        • 1. Masks reduce the number of respiratory droplets that you disperse by breathing/talking. Fewer drops, less virus.
          2. If a mask can’t stop a virus, then it absolutely can’t stop a vastly smaller CO2 molecule. Any biologist could tell you that.
          3. Given #2, this argument is just silly
          4. This is actually true, but only if you make the mask yourself out of cling-wrap
          5. According to 14 even better studies, your cut and paste study sample is wrong.
          6. The CDC and literally every Healthcare practioner has been advocating this for years.
          7. Surprisingly, this point is accurate. Wear a mask for no more than a day before disposing or washing. Replace any mask that is damp or soiled. Don’t re-wear masks without washing them first.

        • Let me get this straight: the best solution we can come up with is a government mandate for all people to wear masks in every public place, all day long, so that on the off chance you happen to sneeze at some point during the day and forget to sneeze into your elbow, the other people who are within eight feet of you–if there even are people around you–won’t have a slightly higher chance of catching the virus that you probably aren’t carrying anyway?

          I’m not convinced.

        • Fyi, viruses don’t just float around in the air. They are transmitted through body fluids it respiratory droplets. Masks can’t stop a naked virus, but it can stop respiratory droplets which carry the virus. The FACTS that you state are mostly pseudoscience. CO2 is a gas and rapidly diffuses. In fact, it’s smaller than a virus and doesn’t require a carrier molecule like the virus does. If you knew anything about physiology, you would know that respiratory acidosis occurs in ppl who are breathing too slowly to rid themselves of CO2 like people on narcotics or sedatives. Healthy people automatically increase their respiratory rate to correct acidosis. From reading your post, it’s very clear to me that you don’t have a medical background, but you read a lot of fake news posts that you accept as truth.

        • If you are in fact a “biologist”, which I sincerely doubt, then you are still not a real doctor. I am a physician, Internal Medicine. Yes, hommade cloth masks don’t protect like my N95 that I wear EVERYWHERE. But even reducing transmission by a few percent, and everybody is doing it, then it starts to make a difference. You probably also haven’t watched people die a horrible death either. I have. It’s a free country, and you don’t have to wear a mask. But if you don’t, don’t expect you will be admitted to private businesses. You can and will be trespassed. You don’t want to wear a mask, then stay the hell home. Seriously, GROW UP!

        • Great! So, as a man of science, you can point me to some peer reviewed articles to back up your claims. There are many people who routinely wear N95 or higher respirators as part of their vocation or hobby, such as painters, welders, dry wallers, woodworkers, etc. Someone must have documented the ailments they suffer from long-term usage since you have such a long list.

        • Jake, you are an example of what makes the internet so dangerous. It gives equal voice to both experts and the uneducated. You’ve managed to fill a post with garbage that may make sense to those that stumble upon it.

          Your “BS in Biology” fails to make you an expert in anything. I’ve seen countless biology graduates manage to obtain their useless undergrad degrees, only to flunk out of their medical program. This is going to sound arrogant and crude; but as an actual expert, I wipe my ass with your BS in Biology. When you have invested additional years in medical school, residency, and fellowship, then you can come give your opinion on masks. Until then, you will remain fundamentally wrong about your view on masks slowing the spread of airborne virus.

          Changing topics, please enlighten the forum in respect to your view that the earth is only a few thousand years old.

  6. Since we don’t know what the man with the mask said to cause the other man to present the weapon, I’d withhold judgement on who the actual guilty party is. He could have made threatening comments like, (I’m going break your f—– neck) etc. Since it was a healthy male and apparently capable of carrying out such a threat and not some little old lady with a walker, it’s entirely possible pulling the weapon was in self-defense and lawful.

    • MLee,

      I just finished posting below which speaks directly to your comment. The overwhelming majority of jurisdictions in the United States will consider handgun man’s actions to be NOT legally justifiable because our jurisdictions require handgun man to engage in hand-to-hand combat for self-defense — since handgun man was somewhat evenly matched against mask man.

      Handgun man would only be legally justified to draw his handgun if mask man threatened to maim/murder him AND only if handgun man had a significant physical disability that would put him at a severe disadvantage against mask man in hand-to-hand combat.

      • I dunno, they don’t look evenly matched to me and I see what appears to be 3 against 1 or something that unmasked man could have perceived as that since the others were all wearing masks. Fact is, the the original ass-wipe that confronted unmasked man after the store had let him in is the instigator and is therefore the one who should be punished. Legally I know that’s wrong but I do see a defense based on 3 to 1.

      • Utter nonsense. Sam Colt provided us with the .45 ACP specifically so we DO NOT HAVE TO engage in melee combat to protect ourselves. They “look” evenly matched? WTF do you know about either of them? Maybe the guy with the gun is a heart patient, with hernias, and some kind of wasting disease. But, they “look” evenly matched?

      • I can’t speak to all state laws but I know here in Washington State if the masked man made threats and a reasonable person could interpret those threats as real and he was capable of carrying them out, then pulling a gun would be justified. That doesn’t mean you won’t get arrested because arresting someone is easy.
        Look at it this way, I’m 63 and stand about 5’8″ Should a larger healthy younger man half my age threaten to cave my skull in over…..whatever and I think the threat is real, I would be 100% within my legal right and justified in pulling my weapon while having NO duty to retreat…although I would. I’d draw it and back away.
        I’ve done legal research for lawyers for gun rights restoration cases and we won, probably the only case in Washington with that sort of case, so I’m not new at reading and comprehending legal statutes and legal appeals court published opinions. It will be an interesting case but as we all know at this point, we don’t know enough. Cops pull their guns on people of darker complexion all the time because they scared of the spooky black man. I can’t fault the average citizen for doing it, not knowing what we know so far.
        Here’s Washington RCW 9A.16.110
        In part:
        (1) No person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property, or for coming to the aid of another who is in imminent danger of or the victim of assault, robbery, kidnapping, arson, burglary, rape, murder, or any other violent crime as defined in RCW 9.94A.030.

        Seems pretty clear to me.

  7. One more time people:

    Pretty much all (if not all) jurisdictions in the United States require that you have a REASONABLE fear of IMMINENT death or grievous bodily harm before you can legally brandish a firearm, intentionally point a firearm at someone, and/or shoot at someone.

    Notice that I capitalized “REASONABLE”, as in a jury of your peers would have to agree that your fear was reasonable.

    Notice also that I capitalized “IMMINENT’, as in a jury of your peers would have to agree that your attack was imminent — as in literally happening right then and there. An attack that might happen might also not happen and is therefore NOT imminent.

    One last caveat: unfortunately almost every (if not every) jurisdiction in the United States requires that you engage in hand-to-hand combat methods when exercising self-defense against an attacker has no visible external weapons and is roughly on par with your size, strength, and speed. Thus, a defender is not legally justified to use a firearm in self-defense unless his/her attacker has a significant advantage in size, strength, and/or speed.

    Disclaimer:
    — The above is my personal opinion.
    — The above is NOT legal advice.
    — I am NOT an attorney.
    — Seek council from an attorney for your personal situation.

    • It might be the case in practice, but I’m pretty sure that’s not encoded in law anywhere.

      Plus, if that’s the case, I’m permanently screwed. Well, not permanently…time will take care of it eventually…but if you’re not allowed to claim a threat unless confronted by somebody obviously bigger and stronger, then I’d have to go mano a mano with anybody smaller than an NFL defensive end. That’s a ridiculous kind of requirement to impose.

      Given that I am large and intimidating (an entirely superficial aspect, but that’s mostly beside the point), I don’t tend to be the recipient of public confrontations. The corollary is that I have good reason to assume that anyone who does get aggressive and refuses to deescalate has taken that into account — or maybe is too deranged to do so — and is a very real threat.

      Another factor to consider in the Florida Man/People of Walmart confrontation: The fact that one of the men was pushing an elderly man in a wheelchair changes everything. My college-age daughter has recently become mobility-impaired, and I can verify that when you’re responsible for another person who can’t defend herself — or leave the scene without your help — everything changes. I can’t afford to engage in any kind of “fair fight” under those circumstances.

      • I’m also a large person. Most folks, even though I’m now a white beard, tend to not confront me directly. Those that do are dangerous folks. Maybe because of drugs, alcohol, or mental illness. But they are to be treated as a real threat.

      • Ing,

        … but if you’re not allowed to claim a threat unless confronted by somebody obviously bigger and stronger, then I’d have to go mano a mano with anybody smaller than an NFL defensive end. That’s a ridiculous kind of requirement to impose.

        That is exactly how self-defense actually works in our nation and almost all prosecutors will prosecute you for felony aggravated assault at a minimum if you draw a firearm on an attacker who does not have any visible external weapons and who does not have a huge advantage of size, strength, and speed — which is why I started my sentence with the word “unfortunately”.

        Here is the simple problem as I see it with our self-defense standard in our nation: every reasonably fit male (and probably every female bodybuilder) can easily knock you unconscious with one solid punch or kick to the head. Not only is that single punch/kick capable of causing a significant brain injury in-and-of-itself, your resulting fall and head’s impact on a hard surface can easily cause fatal trauma to your brain. Or, once unconscious, your attacker can easily finish you off with one solid kick to your skull or stomp on your neck.

        Because a single punch/kick is easily capable of maiming or killing you, my personal position is that a righteous defender should be legally justified to brandish a firearm (but definitely not shoot) BEFORE the aggressor (who has no visible objects/weapons) starts throwing punches/kicks. Sadly, our criminal justice system does not agree and condemns you to hand-to-hand fighting.

        • Unfortunately U.S. self defense law goes all the way back to Europe. In other words, it’s complete shit and you must learn it’s stupidity because it’s not always logical and reasonable unless you have a badge.

      • Ing,

        I am not sure if handgun-man gets any additional leeway to immediately escalate to deadly force simply because he was pushing a disabled person in a wheelchair.

        Any attorneys out there care to weigh in?

        • I would say no because the man was being confronted for not wearing a mask while the older man in the wheelchair was attempting to follow the rules. Meaning, the non mask wearer was the target, not the man in the wheelchair. So the gunman can’t claim to be defending the man in the wheelchair. The gun totting man, wearing a gun shirt, was unreasonable in his emotional response to a man with a child.

          The man with the child could have easily pulled a gun and shot the gunman because he had enough reasonable fear the gunman was not in control of his emotions and was threatening the lives of multiple persons while committing criminal trespass. We could have put a bullet in his head from across the way if we can articulate the reasonableness of having to intervene to save three people from an angry man armed with a firearm and the unreasonable belief he has the right to kill to survive an argument about his bad behavior. It would be best to warn him you are about to put a bullet in his head if he doesn’t put the gun down before you put the bullet in his head.

      • A fair fight is already a loss. I don’t expect to have any issues unless started by someone else but I can solve the issue. Life isn’t a game and it’s not fair anyone who believes that is stupid. I have the same issue that you have I’d have to fight damn near everyone hand to hand if that way law. I ain’t fighting anyone threatening me I will pick up object or pull gun I believe in peace through superior firepower

        • Right. And add to that the fact that I will be present for the discussion of justification for the shooting, not in the ground.

  8. What’s this mental illness going around that makes people think it’s okay to reprimand complete strangers?
    Was that guy his daddy? A Walmart employee?
    For fucks sake won’t everyone just mind their own business?
    Try it. Watch your life get easier and easier and your troubles fade away because at the end of the day all your bullshit issues are your own fucking fault.

    • If you are not wearing a mask near me it IS my business since you are increasing the risk to me and everyone else around.

      • No, in America it is not the general public’s job to make you feel “safe.” If you feel unsafe, you have every right to stay home or take any other reasonable and lawful step you may choose in order to help yourself feel more safe. You may think those people are selfish or jerks, but in America we have the freedom to be selfish jerks if we want to.

        Be glad that the general public doesn’t have an obligation to protect the “safe feelings” of others. If that were the case, we’d have all been forced to give up our guns decades ago.

        • I’m not saying it should be illegal, I’m just saying your an asshole if you don’t take the simple precaution of wearing a mask when the vast majority of medical experts agree it lowers the risk of you transmitting to those around you. If you disagree with this please cite your sources.

        • “the vast majority of medical experts agree” – “please cite your sources”

          Uh, how about citing yours if that’s going to be a requirement when making a statement?

        • The Homeless Population…No masks, No soap, No social distancing…Unchanged for the last 5 months when all this B.S. started.

        • You obviously haven’t read my previous posts, I am not opposed to wearing masks at all. I just don’t like .gov by fiat, I don’t like Karen’s, and I don’t like it when someone asks for citations they don’t provide themselves.

          As for the CDC, well, it’s a .gov. It says was it’s told to say and they haven’t been right since this started. I will check your citation but can you cite any credible private surveys to support your claim?

          The other thing is, Karen’s like masked guy need to think. Unmasked guy may have already had it and got over it. Those people have no need to wear a mask – source for this is a small knowledge of medicine and a modicum of common sense.

      • JR,

        Stay home then, this isn’t the world in where your needs and wants outweigh others. I am, as are others entitled to the same Bill of Rights as are you. My right to privacy is the same as yours. If a private store deems it their policy to enforce a mask policy then fine. However, there is no law on the books as of yet requiring masks in any state. However, there are states that are doing the EO thing, but that isn’t a legislative branch bill/law though the correct process. People need to shit or get off the pot.

        • Uh, courts including SCOTUS upholding the EOs, no matter how absurd. “Public Safety”! You really don’t want to test this in court. You will lose.

        • There’s no law requiring you to wash your hands after you take a shit either. Its common courtesy to help keep those around you healthy.

        • Exactly! I don’t object to wearing the mask, I object to the mandate. Also, it isn’t your place to teach me manners.

          I’m researching now but I think the masked guy broke laws regarding citizens arrest and illegal detention.

      • That’s ridiculous.

        You can move away, if necessary, to maintain your precious SocialJusticeWarriorDistancing. You’re religiously and dutifully wearing your own mask, of course. You have the option at all times to stay home, as your Betters have ‘suggested’. You are responsible for you. No one else is. If you go out in public willingly, and fall prey to the dreaded 23-19 Plague, you’re on your own. You were warned, were you not? On the other hand, if YOU are taking all of the recommended precautions (mask, gloves, gobs of hand sanitizer, full body condom, Level 1 HazMat gear, precision-measured 72″ of virgin airspace, and all that), how could you POSSIBLY be at risk from someone else?

        • @John
          “full body condom”

          Not much makes me laugh these days but that did it! Thanks!

      • JR, then you should LEAVE! You are claiming a threat, so you will approach and confront, with much screaming, spitting, etc? You are LYING, that is too stupid to believe, if someone is that dangerous you should avoid them, not pursue a closer encounter. That’s what you do when you know damn well there is no threat, but you see an opportunity to inflict your will on others, make yourself feel like a big man. Grow up and mind your own business.

    • It’s called living in society. There are rules in society. The rules only work if people enforce them if everyone is not on the same page.

      In America people are selfish and disrespectful of others. If you cared about people you would try to be less of a burden to society every way you can be. One of those ways is to prevent the spread of a virus that allows the government to make excuses as to why they killed free market capitalism and turned society into a fascist controlled economy while they steal trillions from tax payers.

      Why do you think Asia is much safer, less contentious and doesn’t require American style policing?

      • Another way to prevent becoming a burden on society, is to keep your freaking mouth SHUT. You don’t accost a stranger, and order him to wear a mask.

      • “Why do you think Asia is much safer, less contentious and doesn’t require American style policing?”

        Duh, because we’re a free people and they are not so we don’t like to be told what to do by anyone and esp .gov maybe?

      • “Why do you think Asia is much safer, less contentious and doesn’t require American style policing?”

        Asia tends to be a monoculture society where there is little racial diversity.

        Japan and south Korea are probably the most glaringly racist countries on the planet…

        • This ⬆️ as there is very little violence and most if not all are highly educated, speak multiple languages and so on. If you also look at predominantly all white countries violence is also typically low. But of course all this talk is racist and someone will get triggered.

        • Not from my experience. Asians are naive and ignorant, which can seem racist. Asians really like white people and treat them so well just because they are white. The only time Asia behaves “racist” is when their government pushes that on society to collectivize citizens against other governments.

          China has a lot of different people and cultures. They have various languages too. The government pretends they are an ethno state but they are not. Because of communism the CCP crushes anything that disrupts the harmony of the government/society. It’s not because Chinese people are racist, it’s more that they are nationalists and the CCP pushes that very hard. They even destroyed their own Chinese culture to replace it with European Communism. Look at Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore to see how Chinese act without the CCP influence and pressure. You could even look at your fellow Americans who’s family came from China.

        • Singapore even pushes hard at unity… Although the population is heavily considered Chinese without the CCP running Singapore the people behave very differently.

    • “What’s this mental illness going around that makes people think it’s okay to reprimand complete strangers?”

      Panic.

        • Given permission by whom or what? Their own brain.

          The argument is always the same and the root of that argument is always the same too. Fear.

          Fear is “an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat.”

          Panic is “sudden uncontrollable fear or anxiety, often causing wildly unthinking behavior.” (emphasis mine.)

          This is what fearporn does. It corrupts everything.

          No one is telling anyone else “Go out and confront people not wearing a mask”. No one has to. That’s the beauty of building mental prisons.

          “When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.”

  9. The appropriate response (if any) is simply “F**K OFF”. I personally choose to wear a mask in public settings although I think they’re pretty much useless, and I could care less if anyone else chooses to wear one.

    Pulling a gun on someone for asking one to wear a mask is beyond the pale. I’d wager this isn’t the first time this jerk has done something like this and had to face consequences, and wouldn’t be at all surprised if he’s a felon in unlawful possession.

  10. Back in the day open carriers were encouraged to carry a digital recorder when out and about in case a rogue law officer or unhinged anti-gunner started a confrontation. I’m thinking this is still good advice maybe with newer methods via cell phone. We have pretty damning evidence against this man on video with absolutely no audio.

  11. Fla is not Open Carry. You can carry Concealed only if you have a CCL (the classes are a joke. fla is where I got my first CCL) AND you cannot “print” or else a LEO will have cause for arresting you.

    The guy with the handgun wasn’t doing our side any favors. Granted, I have no idea what was side between the two sides. But wearing a black tshirt that has firearms as part of the American Flag motif practically advertises “I’m Carrying” and cements in the media-brainwashed minds of hoplophobes that we are fringe people, not mainstream.

    • A-argh15. Printing in Florida does not constitute open carry. Not saying you won’t be arrested, but it would be an unlawful arrest. If so, get an attorney and tell the agency/officer to get out a checkbook.

    • ummm as of two years ago, “printing” in Florida is not a thing….please read FS 790.01 and beyond to be up to date on gun laws, or please stop giving legal advice on a public forum.

    • Incorrect. I print all the time in Florida and I don’t care, and neither does anyone else. I’ve never been made or stopped over it, and the one interaction I’ve had while carrying with the police here was a very positive encounter, where he encouraged me to keep carrying.

  12. No matter, starting Monday, all WalMarts will require masks on customers entering the store. Refuse to wear a mask? Then leave, or you will be trespassing. I can see many cops rolling their eyes over this edict as now these people who refuse to wear a mask will somehow believe they have a “right” to enter private property without one on to do their shopping. There will be arrests, more than likely, but most incidents will probably involve local law enforcement telling them to leave and if they return, they will be arrested for trespassing.

    • American Disabilities Act requires that merchants cannot refuse to serve customers with disabilities! Persons with emphysema, COPD, asthma, cannot breath properly with a mask on, and therefore are exempt.

      • Asthmatics probably should be wearing a mask just to avoid the irritants in the air anyways. I completely disagree with 99% of your “logic”. Glad to see you found your cap lock button.

        • As someone who has delt with numerous nurses you are nothing more than a glorified CNA with slightly more schooling. Lost over 6 pounds from the shits and the idiot nurse who would not let me see or talk to my doctor told me to get tested for Coronavirus.

          Your opinion on anything medical is not worth anything except maybe a trip to the emergency room because of your incompetence. Had one argue with me that I did not have pneumonia. Thank God I got blood work done that day. They called me the next day and suddenly agreed with me that I had pneumonia and started actually treating it.

          You are why medical malpractice insurance is so high, I refuse to speak to nurses anymore period after what I have gone through.

      • Stores provide people with legitimate health issues the privilege of shopping for them as they wait outside.

    • Half of the masks I see everyday don’t filter your exhaled breath. They are not protecting anyone but the person wearing them, so half your argument for forcing others to wear a mask or stay home is void. Of the remaining masks, half (or more) are not worn properly and thus protect no one. So there’s another quarter of your argument nullified. So until the mask Nazis are showing the same contempt for the valve masked and uncovered noses as they do for those of us who will not drink the cool-aid, they and you can go pound sand.

      • No where near half the masks have exhaust valves. You are being hyperbolic to make your point. The reason there are fewer of them is because they add cost and aren’t for really for this purpose. They are mostly for construction/maintenance work.

        • So I’m lying? F You. I cannot speak for anyone else, but where I go, HALF THE MASKS HAVE EXHAUST VALVES. Come shadow me for a day, and then you can say if I’m wrong. Until then, don’t tell me what I’m seeing with my own eyes. In the hot ass building I work, no one wants to stew in their own exhaust so they spend more for a mask with a valve. I hear the same reasoning when John Q Public talks about buying their masks. Don’t avoid the issue by discounting data that you don’t believe.

        • Fred I too have vented masks. I have also been wondering when people would start getting upset that this type doesn’t protect others and I have been paying attention to what types people wear since March. I looked at scores of photos of people wearing masks before I replied to make sure that my town was not freakishly un-vented. Not even 1 in 5 had vented masks. Maybe the evil liberal media has edited the photos to make it look like vents are less common in an effort to undermine Trump?

  13. the crime of threatening a person together with the act of making physical contact with them

    Also, many businesses are starting to require masts. Which is their right. If you don’t like it, stay tf out. Just like you (should be) doing for places that don’t allow lawful concealed carry.

    • Just be sure to bake a cake for a gay couple. If you are open to the public you should have to abide by the BOR. Carrying a gun is not disruptive to your business or cause for alarm. Neither is choosing to wear or not wear a mask. Both are protected by the BOR.

      If you want to start a private club than feel free to exude whoever you want, gun owners, whites, gays wanting cakes baked and so on.

  14. I can only hope they hire former bouncers as greeters at wal-mart. I had a friend who was a greeter and was like 75 years old and I can’t imagine him trying to enforce a masks at Wal-Mart rule, but if you don’t stop people at the door, then the requirement is pointless. With bars being closed, there must be a lot of bouncers looking for work.

    • The solution is really simple and easy to understand. If a person is spotted violating rule # 1, of not wearing a mask, then immediately revert to and apply rule # 2 by maintaining a social distance of 6 feet or more. Don’t consider it your duty to police the area. Keep yourself safe and leave others alone. Remember rule # 2 is for you.

      • Don’t forget that your eyes are not covered, so people not wearing a mask can give you viruses. Open areas and air conditioned areas will help spread viruses into people’s eyes from those not wearing masks.

        • @RidgeRunner

          I am not at risk of dying form a corona virus. I simply care about other humans. I don’t want to get people sick. As bad as Boomers are I don’t want to get them deathly ill. It’s only righteous to do onto others as you would want done onto you.

          Remember how Americans claim all the Indians died not from a campaign of genocide but from Europeans coughing? If that is true, why would be want to replicate that with the elderly Americans? Do you not respect your elders? Do you not care about your fellow countrymen?

          In Asian countries people respect each other because they think of each other as family. Apparently, Americans think the only person that matters is themselves. That’s not surprising because Americans kick their kids out at 18 and refuse to live with multiple generations of family.

          Republicans will pay heavily for their selfishness and lack of care for their elders.

          I also don’t mind people wearing masks and it becoming normalized. It’s actually unlawful to wear masks in public, when everyone wears a mask those laws become null. This is very beneficial now that we have facial recognition out in public being used to track Americans and database them. In many states carrying a gun and wearing a mask is unlawful. So wear a mask to help get rid of these laws when you have the chance. It’s like open carrying before that became a rarity.

    • Totally agree…masks do nothing!
      Some dumb ass out there said if you have asthma you should be wearing a mask! The douche doesn’t understand if you can’t breath, that brings on a severe asthma attack! I know because my son has asthma. A lot of snowflakes like to talk out of their ass, probably should wear a mask there too! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s for the other dumb ass that has nothing useful to say.

      • This douche has submitted articles for peer review regarding asthma and provide education to various medical professionals regarding the topic. So yeah F me right.

        You probably think smoking around an asthmatic is fine too.

    • You should really submit your research to the CDC because they disagree with you. I’m sure your amazing credentials will turn some heads and set them straight.

      • The CDC has been proven to be wrong on just about everything related to Covid, and they’re manipulating stats out the ass. Junior.

    • Which is why when there is a radiation leak from a plant the workers don’t wear masks. They just suck those particles right in…

  15. No matter the issue; one thing everyone should understand. Do not fuck with strangers. For that very reason. You don’t know who they are or what they will do. If masked man didn’t like unmasked man being unmasked he should just maintain social distance and then some.

  16. Gay couple wants wedding cake: “Businesses should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.”
    Walmart asks you to wear a mask. “HOW DARE YOU INFRINGE UPON MY FREEDOM!”
    If this is your thought process you’re a fucking hypocrite. Wear the mask or stay the fuck home. 135,000 dead from COVID-19 and counting in the US ALONE. Just about every other country has this shit under control but us. Why don’t we? I think this story is all the evidence you need.

    If the mask does nothing, why does every surgeon since the early 1900s wear one in hospital? If the mask does nothing, why do countries like Japan and South Korea wear them literally any time they get sick? And don’t tell me you can’t breathe in a mask or you can’t get oxygen. You’re full of shit. There’s already multitudes of videos out there proving that wrong. You’re just a whiny little turd who doesn’t want to follow a SIMPLE instruction. People are asking you to do the BARE MINIMUM to stop the spread of infection and you’re adamantly refusing because “muh rights”. The right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Put on the god damn mask. Dr. Anthony Fauci, a practicing physician for decades who has LITERALLY written the book on the subject tells you the mask helps, then you can take his word for it that it helps. But since he disagrees with The Orange than he’s clearly an idiot. Yeah, I’m gonna take medical advice from a reality TV show host with 3 divorces and 6 bankruptcies under his belt over a licensed physician with decades of experience.

    • So you disagree with the US Surgeon General when he said, on March 8th, “Masks do not work for the general public”?
      When and where did you graduate medical school? Where can I find the peer reviewed research you’ve authored on the topic?

    • So you must have missed the part where he said in a hearing recently that he didn’t tell the public that masks would be beneficial because he was making sure that the available PPE went to hospitals and first responder types first.

      It’s not just a claim, it was on video. Look it up.

      Apparently they will only “save you” after the gov. has enough for themselves…..

      Check out Viva Frei on Youtube to see an intelligent break down of the video and what it says about the gov. wisdom.

      • I’m fully aware of the duplicity, and I also understand that masks do work. I was on Governor Abbot’s CV19 logistics strike force and got to witness first hand labs testing masks and see which ones worked. Some do. Some don’t.
        My point is that, partly because of the duplicity you’ve highlighted, the claim of “trust the doctor” just doesn’t carry any weight anymore. Nor should it. You’ll find whatever opinion you want from a qualified physician.

        • Ah, sorry. I’m out hunting. Driving, shooting, and reading this all at the same time is hard. Almost spilled my beer.

        • “Almost spilled my beer.”

          It’s a battered old truck. Hose it out… 😉

        • So what test(s) did you use to determine which masks worked and which ones did not work? Was a control group used? We’re the results verifiable? I’m calling BS on your post.

        • Well, that’s because you’re either lazy or stupid, probably both.
          The tests were conducted at the request of the Texas Department of State Health Services, and were carried out and verified by several different state and private university labs around the state of Texas. In a nutshell, a machine measures the flow-through rate of control particles through each mask, both in simple material flow and then fit to a standardized machine to test fit on a control “human mimicking” form. Even masks that are rated and sold as “N95” go through this process, and if they fail that lot is not paid for and returned, or downgraded for different use. That’s how we controlled for quality on masks from different manufacturers. All information about testing of products, individuals, and case numbers directly reported from the labs, the individual hospital systems, and viral testing facilities are posted in real time on the DSHS website. The state gets to see it the same time the public does.

    • 135,000 dead, in a population of about 350,000,000? Did you just recently wake up to the fact that life is always fatal? In America, we kill each other on the highways routinely. We shoot each other in the ghettos, routinely. We routinely commit suicide. But, something comparable to a bad flu season has you scared spitless?

    • If 135,000 dead… how come, in most areas, nobody knows a dead person? Furthermore, in a lot of areas, nobody even knows anyone who has had COVID. And what about the agencies and offices that have been found to be inflating the numbers of positives tenfold?

      I’d almost be willing to bet that if ANTIFA didn’t need to hide behind masks, nobody else would be required to wear one.

  17. Ehhh…I “try” to mind my business. Especially NOW. Love all the ” I’m an expert” BS. Cure Wuhanflu expert. Got fairly annoyed earlier today when the Aldi gal tried to get exact change from my cash purchase. “Next time have exact change!” Not my fault there’s a fake coin shortage. And I rarely use a debit card!

  18. Combining “People of Walmart” with “Florida Man” would have solved a whole bunch of rocket fuel equations back in the early years of developing ICBM’s and rockets to the Moon.

    Yup, like fuel and oxidizer … mix those two ingredients and ….. KABOOM!!!!

    possibly also “WHOOOOOOSH!!!!”

    And alcohol may be a factor.

  19. 1.First of all I choose to boycott Walmart due to their deceitful discriminatory” LBJ/KGB” anti-gun class warfare policies against the innocent American gun owner! They don’t deserve my patronage and business and will not get it. 2. Though I rightly feel wearing a mask, like wearing a seat belt, should be an individual private choice ( I despise, resist, and dislike flaming socialists who side with the almighty state) this situation would have been better handled by store management. 3. The person who intervened and confronted the man not wearing his mask was totally out of order by not minding his own damned business! 4. The man who pulled his handgun and threatened the nanny state idiot who criticized him is an even bigger idiot and damned fool! There is a proper time place and manner in which to pull and brandish a handgun: a woman being stalked
    by some lowlife who is violating a restraining order, especially when no one is around to come to her aid or assistance, the homeowner who responds to the sound of breaking glass and forced entry at 2:00 A.M., or the violent banging on the door at this same ungodly hour, or a woman or anyone else packing who is approached and confronted by a feral human predator at say a rest area in a threatening manner. Yes….there is a time, place, and manner to properly draw and display a handgun. But this stupid incident will be exploited by the anti-gun elitists and our socialist enemies to further target and harass the innocent honest American gun owner. This was a vicious circle what could
    have been prevented and kept from escalating.

  20. I hope they put the dumb ass in jail for pulling a gun on someone. If he dosen’t want to wear a mask he should stay the hell out.

  21. 1.First off I choose to boycott Walmart due to their deceitful discriminatory” LBJ/KGB” anti-gun class warfare policies against the innocent American gun owner! They don’t deserve my patronage and business and will not get it. 2. Though I rightly feel wearing a mask, like wearing a seat belt, should be an individual private choice ( I despise, resist, and dislike self righteous flaming socialists who side with the almighty state) this situation would have been better handled by store management. 3. The person who intervened and confronted the man not wearing his mask was totally out of order by not minding his own damned business! 4. The man who pulled his handgun and threatened the nanny state idiot who criticized him is an even bigger idiot and damned fool! There is a proper time place and manner in which to pull and brandish a handgun: a woman being stalked by some lowlife who is violating a restraining order, especially when no one is around to come to her aid or assistance, the homeowner who responds to the sound of breaking glass and forced entry at 2:00 A.M., or the violent banging on the door at this same ungodly hour, or a woman or anyone else packing who is approached and confronted by a feral human predator at say a rest area in a threatening manner. Yes….there is a time, place, and manner to properly draw and display a handgun. But this stupid incident will be exploited by the anti-gun elitists and our socialist enemies to further target and harass the innocent honest American gun owner. This was a vicious circle what could have been prevented and kept from escalating.

  22. “iF mY UnDeWEaR CAnT sTOp a FArT tHEn A mAsK CAnT sTop A vIRuS!”

    Jeesus… really people?

    This is more an… if you shit your pants in public your underwear keeps the shit in long enough to get home and change. The virus is primarily transmitted through droplets and there is plenty of evidence that shows that the majority of the droplets in your sneeze/cough/breath get caught in the mask instead of getting expelled across the room, but just like the fact that tge dook you just took in your underwear will eventually seep out all over the place, all these people walking around with homemade masks that they probably haven’t washed since march are probably doing more harm than good to themselves and those around them. If you leave your dirty mask on the droplets dry out and then your mask becomes a petri dish and you walk around fogging the entire place with your germs/virus particles. Unfortunately, the shocking lack of education and heavy handed “YOU MUST COMPLY BECAUSE I SAID SO” way that these orders are being enforced only makes this type of behavior more common.

    So as usually its more complicated than the “mask works/doesnt work” binary debate we keep trying to have…. if you are just wearing a piece of cloth on your face because someone said so, and you arent following the actual guidelines laid out for properly wearing one (ie. wash the cloth one every day, and throw the disposable one away after every use)… then yeah your are probably causing more harm than good, to yourself and everyone around you.

    None of this warrants pulling a gun on someone.

    Both sides of this debate could use a fair helping of common sense… /rant