Vedder Holsters Daily Digest: Warning Labels, Reckless Behavior and Nautical Carry

All in all it’s just another brick in the wall . . . California Republican Wants Warning Labels on Guns – “California State Assemblywoman Catherine Baker (R-Dublin) is pushing legislation to require that warning labels accompany all firearms sold in the state. Baker’s bill, AB 1525, would also raise the passing grade “for the issuance of a firearm safety certificate” from 75% to 85%.”

Blinding stupidity or more fake news? . . .  Sources: Sean Hannity once pulled a gun on Juan Williams – “Last year, after ending one of his many spirited on-air arguments with liberal contributor Juan Williams, Hannity pulled out a gun and pointed it directly at Williams, according to three sources with knowledge of the incident. He even turned on the laser sight, causing a red dot to bob around on Williams’ body. (Hannity was just showing off, the sources said, but the unforeseen off-camera antic clearly disturbed Williams and others on set.)”

Uh oh . . . IL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE… Gun Owners got played – “Gun grabbers from across the nation have taken up residence in the Illinois General Assembly.  Tuesday proved a bad day for gun owners in Illinois.  In short, we got played and more is coming.  First, I’ll give you Todd Vandermyde’s take, then my remarks.”

More Hearing Protection Act hysteria . . . USNews: Third Way Activists Fearmonger Over Non-Existent Suppressor Usage In Mass Shootings – “In a March 14 column, Third Way activists attempted to scare the wits out of USNews readersby claiming ‘an influx of silencers could make (mass shootings) even more deadly.’ Authors Lanae Erickson Hatalsky and Nathan Kasai, using the disingenuous misnomer “silencers” to refer to suppressors, misled readers by intimating the devices silence muzzle blasts, instead of merely reducing the noise level to that of a jackhammer. By their reasoning, we should remove mufflers from cars so we can hear them approach before we cross the street.”

Desperately seeking relevance . . . Guns and Gorsuch – “The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence sent out a press release today with four proposed questions for Judge Gorsuch’s confirmation hearing. The questions don’t seem to me to be either illuminating or challenging.”

This was illegal? . . . Loaded guns on boats bill passes House – “People could carry loaded guns on their boats in a bill approved by the Tennessee House of Representatives. The House favored a bill Thursday that would let people who can legally have loaded or unloaded guns and ammunition bring them on their boats. GOP bill sponsor Rep. Micah Van Huss said the current law is unclear. He said the bill would let law-abiding Tennesseans defend themselves.”

Again, still . . . Seattle refuses to release gun tax revenue – “The City of Seattle continues to refuse to disclose how much money it’s making from the gun and ammunition tax. ‘One can presume or suspect that the revenue is nowhere near what they projected,’ said Dave Workman of, who filed suit for the statistics. The City passed legislation in 2015 to charge gun shops $25 for every gun sale and a nickel for every round of ammunition, projecting that it would raise up to $500,000 a year for gun violence prevention programs.  It went into effect in January 2016.” We’d lay odds actual revenue isn’t even a third of the projected total.


  1. avatar James Earl Hoffa says:

    I can already see it a bunch of warning labels all down the side of the gun one that says prolonged exposure to the muzzle of this weapon will lead to lead poisoning and death LOL.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      As it was pointed out to me in 70’s, if there’s a dumb-ass warning label on something, some dumb-ass did it and sued the company.

      My favorite one was the warning not to stick hands (or any other body part) under a running lawn mower…

      1. avatar Hannibal says:

        Unless you’re in CA, where they’re so full of dumbassery that they don’t care if a warning label will do anything or address any actual problem, real or litigious.

        1. avatar B says:

          “This building contains matter, which is known by California to cause Cancer.”

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          “This building contains substances known to cause cancer in the state of California.” Was the exact wording I saw at one point.

    2. avatar Bob Valdez says:

      That looks like Lurch in drag!

      1. avatar Troy Bollocks says:

        I thought John Kerry had grown his hair out.

      2. avatar BigDaveinVT says:

        I was thinking more of the original (Jackie Coogan) Uncle Fester Addams. Maybe their twins?

        1. avatar BigDaveinVT says:

          Oh THAT picture – didn’t scroll up far enough. “Lurch” Kerry and Fester in one article, who’d a thought!

    3. avatar Joel says:

      “This gun is known to the state of California to cause cancer in lab rats”

  2. avatar Geoff PR says:

    ““The City of Seattle continues to refuse to disclose how much money it’s making from the gun and ammunition tax.”

    And this isn’t a ‘garden variety’ no-brainer FOIA request?

    1. avatar Defens says:

      It was, but Seattle is stonewalling the request.

    2. avatar Keith44 says:

      Has anyone considered asking the two or three gun stores how much tax revenue they sent to the city?

      1. avatar No one of consequence says:

        My thought as well. Assuming said store owners would be willing to release the information, anyway.

      2. avatar JasonM says:

        The one real gun store in the city is a camping/hunting/fishing chain store. They probably wouldn’t. Other than that, I think it’s just pawn shops and kitchen table FFLs.

        1. avatar binder says:

          Are there any more small FFLs left? I know that after Cook County passed the sames laws, after one year, the FFLs I used all moved out of the county or shut down. Anyone who is into firearms enough to use a small FFL will try to avoid the tax.

    3. avatar TheOtherDavid says:

      The big assumption is not only did they collect the special fee far below projections, there has probably been an actual loss of general sales tax revenue for Seattle as firearms sales simply moved outside of town.

      1. avatar Paul Revis says:

        For the same reason no one in Cook County, Illinois buys cigarettes in the County.

  3. avatar former water walker says:

    Yeah we’re getting played- by this BS from Todd. Non-story. I can believe the Hannity story. He’s talked about carrying with his “clips”…?

    1. avatar Question Authority says:

      This may have been Hannity’s gun:

      Nerf N-Strike Elite Firestrike Nerf Gun
      Precision light beam works on targets up to 15 feet away
      3 Elite Darts work with any N-Strike Elite blaster (each sold separately)
      Use the Tactical Rails to customize with any Tactical Rail accessory (each sold separately)
      Up to a 75-foot range
      Firestrike blaster, 3 Elite Darts and instructions
      Colors may vary
      Firestrike blaster comes with Light Beam targeting

  4. avatar PPGMD says:

    “California State Assemblywoman Catherine Baker (R-Dublin) is pushing legislation to require that warning labels accompany all firearms sold in the state”

    Probably working for Ruger to even the playing field.

    1. avatar DrewR says:

      As a gun owner who has more Rugers in his safe than any other brand, I find this deeply offen- Nah, just kidding, I laughed my ass off.

  5. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    Catherine Baker? I thought it was a throwback photo of John Kerry.

    Guns on boats? There is always at least one on mine.

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      Ditto. John Kerry is one damn ugly broad.

      1. avatar Ing says:

        No, I’m pretty sure John Kerry is actually the guy that hosts the Rachel Maddow show.

        1. avatar John says:

          Nah, that’s Geraldo having a”Gender Identity Crisis” from spending too much time in Commiefornia….

  6. avatar Nanashi says:

    Here are some challenging questions for Gorsuch (call your senators and get them asked):

    Was US v. Miller a valid court case?
    Is Wickard v. Filburn a correct interpretation of the interstate commerce clause?
    Does the 17th amendment run awfoul of last sentence of article V?

    1. avatar 16V says:

      As I expect you know the answers, I would hope others do to – at least re: Miller. Likely death by misadventure, and lousy representation by lack of cash, but still, it’s easy to believe there were ‘other forces at work’.

  7. avatar JoeVK says:

    Warning labels on guns? They’re joking right? I’m pretty sure the whole damn world knows what a gun is. I doubt Mr. Hannity pulled a gun on anyone. If he had, with the way media is these days, we’d have heard about it seconds after it happened. And who needs a muffler? My truck hasn’t had one in 6 years. If Harleys can be as loud as their owners want, then so can my old Chevy.

    1. avatar No one of consequence says:

      Speaking as a motorcyclist, I find loud pipes very annoying. Especially when they’re on thunderslugs whose riders can’t go faster and won’t move over.

      1. avatar NATAWS9 says:

        So what you’re saying is, that you’re a biased troll that makes up stories to give themselves a warm fuzzy and fit their bogus world view.

        Tell me more about how a motorcycle that has the hp to weight ratio of a 500 hp car can’t move fast enough on a public road for you, dear leader! I need you to tell me which motorcyclists we need to make up stories about because we hate the logo on their gas tank!

        1. avatar Gordon in MO says:

          What he is telling you, and I have experienced the same thing, a group of motor cycles taking up the whole road at less than posted speed limit will continue their way ignoring the backup behind them.
          Is it legal? probably. Is it courteous? Not very.

  8. avatar Hannibal says:

    When will CA get on with this so we can either see it go away or bring it fully into the Union under the Constitution (and prevent any of its current idiot legislators from continuing to be in government)?

  9. avatar dph says:

    Okay, if you’re going to put pictures of women like that on here, you should at least put up a NSFW warning.

  10. avatar Marco says:

    Where the hell is demo man? They mentioned Todd Vandermyde by name ON TTAG!

    Come on, I want my rant about the devil incarnate Todd Vandermyde.

    Demo Man
    Demo Man
    Demo Man!

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Todd’s actually a pretty decent guy. I shot a couple of rifle matches squadded up with him without knowing who the hell he was.

      1. avatar Marco says:

        I don’t know anything about Todd Vandermyde except he’s associated with the NRA in illinois. Demo Man reacts to Todd Vandermyde like you do to socialists Serge, so I wanted to hear what he had to say.

        Just like I’d call your name three times if there was an article about anything socialist. Or better, Socialist anti-police groups.

  11. avatar FB says:

    Another democrat posed as a republican. Most likely best friends with Bill Weld and Mcain.

  12. avatar VerendusAudeo says:

    Fun fact: the 4th Amendment doesn’t apply on a body of water.

    1. avatar Chip in Florida says:

      I find that very interesting.

      Which makes me think of a very serious question….. Why?

      Which makes me think of a very serious follow up question…. How do we make this not be the case? Who set it up this way? why did we let them do it? and how do we undo whatever they did to make it so in the first place?

      1. avatar Button Gwinnett says:

        Why? Because smugglers. And smugglers because import tariffs (attention, Mr. President!) The Coast Guard has always had authority to board ships to ENFORCE TAXATION. Now we allow county cops to search a boat on the water but not that same boat 30 seconds earlier and 5 yards away when it was on the trailer, if I read this correctly.
        In Colorado, smuggling by boat is not a thing, surprisingly. So we have more protections. I don’t know what a reasonable solution for a state like FL is.

      2. avatar TX_Lawyer says:

        The jurisprudence on the 4A allows for warrantless and suspicionless “regulatory” searches. Think OSHA, EPA, etc. The jurisprudence also allows for unlimited searches at entry points (borders, ports, airports).

        I believe this interpretation of the Constitution is wrong. One of the main reasons the founders included the 4A warrant requirement was because many of them were smugglers who were smuggling and avoiding taxes and other laws when the British searched their vessels without warrants.

  13. avatar K42inSEA says:

    We could all do with fewer warning labels, oh, and and fences at national parks. Things have become too safe. A little Darwinism ought to fix a preponderance of stupid people, bad parents, and flip-flop wearing selfie-taking dummies on cliffs. Most rules should only protect average people from predatory a-holes, fewer rules should be dedicated to protecting idiots from themselves.

    Also, Seattle, WTF, come on. Everyone know’s that the tax was regulatory, that was the intent. I’m still waiting for the supreme court of WA ruling.

  14. avatar Rick the Bear (MA to NH) says:

    Not to pick a nit: I believe that Maxim called his invention a silencer.

    1. avatar Button Gwinnett says:

      Cigarette companies also claimed “4 out of 5 doctors smoke Camels.” M. Maxim was engaging in a bit of puffery, Your Honor, which is expected in the advertising industry. You can’t apply marketing slogans to a legal definition.

      Yeah, I’ve considered that.

    2. avatar GS650G says:

      Maxim could have called it a silencer but that doesn’t make it silent.

  15. avatar pwrserge says:

    Correct answers to the Brady Bunch’s questions.

    1. What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?
    2. See above.
    3. I seem to keep repeating myself.
    4. So I am.

    1. avatar TX_Lawyer says:

      Question: “Do you agree that the 2nd Amendment right … does not trump other constitutional rights?”

      Answer: WTF are you talking about? Are you saying I can’t use arms to enslave people? With the exception of the 13A’s prohibition of involuntary servitude, the Constitution only protects people from government action. How can one civil right trump another? That is a nonsense question. “Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

      Okay, the establishment clause and the free exercise clause are often in conflict, but that is the only one I can think of.

  16. avatar MauiMatt says:

    Now the people of Tennessee will be able to lose their guns in “boating accidents”!

  17. avatar Wiregrass says:

    Warning: This legislator has been known to not use rational judgment when proposing legislation.

    That should be tattooed on her F-ing Forehead.

    1. avatar KBonLI says:

      Now that was funny.

  18. avatar Chris T from KY says:

    So a republican wants to label guns in California????
    Is the only difference between a California democrat and a California republican, one supports only public masturbation and other supports any and all sex acts performed in public????? Is this the real reason why they don’t get along???
    But they both support taking guns away from people. It seems that one wants them sooner, and the other is willing to wait a little longer to take you guns away.

    ps. I was born and raised in Sacramento.

  19. avatar K Maiden says:

    More blah blah blah from another political idiot. Well I’m an elected overseer, therefore I know everything, I have all the answers, I know whats best, etc etc etc….. D or R. FRACK!!!!!

  20. avatar AMP says:

    I would definitely accept a ton of labels in exchange for DOJ roster, magazine bans, and all the other junk we have here. Alas I’m afraid is not “instead”, is “on top”.

  21. avatar LHW says:

    Time to build that wall on the California border with the United States.

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