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TTAG Contest: Who Makes The Best Ammo?

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 Wake up and smell the Black Hill Ammunition contest goodies (courtesy The Truth About Guns)

Ah remember those days when you could choose what type of ammo you wanted to buy? Well those days are back! In our collective imagination. Imagine unlimited ammo availability and an unlimited budget. How much of what would you buy? And if you’d like to win some Black Hills Ammunition coffee, a Cuisinart coffee grinder and a big ass Black Hills branded bag—fo’ shizzle—provide your ammo wish list AND finish this sentence: “You can’t have enough ammo because . . . ” We’ll announce the winner at the same time tomorrow.

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. .44 Special
    .9mm luger
    .45 ACP
    .223/556
    .40 S&W
    .22LR

    “You can’t have enough ammo because…because I read TTAG and I know how many idiots are out there, both in office and out, so I come prepared!”

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    • Steve in Mass! I hail from there, ..at one point in time. Maine now. I feel your pain.

      5.56, .45, 9mm – all for business.

      You can’t have enough ammo because there are far too many reasons to shoot.

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  2. Let’s just hope that the lies of the people who run the LA Times will eventually destroy their credibility to the general public.

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  3. .44 mag
    .45-70
    5,000 rounds of Black Hills 77 grain 5.56

    “You can’t have enough ammo because…shooting is like sex. You can’t pull the trigger just once.”

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  4. That was an amazing video. As Rabbi said, your ability to talk your way all the way through that debacle cements your standing as a bullshit artist nonpariel.

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  5. “The typical patriot acts within his free-speech and 2nd Amendment rights. … These groups should be closely monitored.”

    Imagine the outcry if a newspaper called for the government to closely monitor other groups acting lawfully, within their rights of free-speech and assembly, such as a labor union, an anti-war group, a Muslim student association, a black student association, or the “Occupy” movement.

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  6. Lawman Clean Fire FMJ: 1000 45acp; 1000 .38sp
    Remington Golden Saber Bonded: ditto above
    .22LR CCI MiniMags: 5,000 rounds
    Brenneke Tactical Home Defense 12g slugs: 100
    Remington Express #1 12g Buckshot: 100 rounds
    Aguila Minishell 12 Gauge slugs: 200 rounds

    You can’t have enough ammo because friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.

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  7. 9mm
    .45 ACP
    .308 Win
    .22lr
    7.62x54r

    You can’t have enough ammo because… anything less than 1.7 billion rounds is letting DHS win.

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  8. .380 ACP
    .40 S&W
    .243 Winchester
    .22LR

    You can’t have enough ammo because your XD(M) doesn’t fly as well as a good rock, and an AR-15 is too light to make a good club.

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    • Listed calibers, forgot my brands, derp, and I couldn’t edit.

      .380 ACP – Hornady Critical Defense
      .40 S&W – A large pile of Winchester White Box, and smaller pile of Hornady Critical Defense
      .243 Winchester – A couple cases of every bullet weight that Hornady makes ought to last me the rest of my life
      .22LR – Anything by CCI, so my Mosquito is happy. Stack it wide and deep.

      You can’t have enough ammo because your XD(M) doesn’t fly as well as a good rock, and an AR-15 is too light to make a good club.

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  9. 25 cases of .22 LR
    20 cases 5.56mm FMJ
    10 cases 5.56mm OTM
    15 cases 9mm FMJ
    5 cases 9mm HST
    10 cases of various training 12ga bird, buck, slugs
    3 cases of 12ga premium buckshot
    2 cases of 12ga Brenneke slugs

    You can’t have enough ammo because . . . you never know when an event will make ammo scarce, firearms training, practice, practice, practice, and defense.

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    • Tee hee. Yeah, I missed that too. I think it’s a little confusing because you can win Black Hills Ammunition……branded coffee, but that’s it. The wish list is to show your favorite ammo brands, not what caliber ammo you’d like to “win.”

      I usually go for the cheaper kind, or reloads (such as the American Marksman ammo). Anything American Eagle is just fine. Speer ain’t bad either.

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  10. 10 cans 420 Federal Cartridge 5.56mmx45mm 62gr FMJ
    2000 rds Federal 9MM 124 gr FMJ
    10000 Federal Ammunition 22LR 40gr Auto Match

    You can’t have enough ammo because… you never know when there will be another shortage.

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  11. Smith and Wesson model 627 – 4 to 5 inch barrel.
    Performance Series. I would like to have an 8 shot .357 magnum in the collection just because.

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  12. In mass-manufactured ammo, I have found Federal to be the most consistent and the best overall quality. Norma has excellent game rifle ammunition, but it is so scarce as to availability, it’s often hardly worth mentioning.

    In components, I like:

    – Norma, Lapua and Federal brass, in that order for accuracy. For game rifle brass, Norma or Federal.
    – Barnes, Berger, Hornady and Nosler bullets, in that order, with a few Sierra’s that I also like. For fat pistol pills in lead, there’s a couple of local guys who cast nice pre-lubed lead bullets I use in .45 Colt & ACP.
    – Hodgdon for powders (both “H” and “IMR” versions), altho Alliant and Vihtavuori powders are quite good. Of these latter two, “Reloader” powders (Re15 and Re17) are attracting some new attention.
    – Federal and CCI for primers; Federal for most everything, and CCI for NATO-spec small and large rifle primers for service rifles and benchrest.

    In .22LR ammo, Ely, Lapua and RWS, but as with all things .22, you need to find out what works in your firearm, especially rifles.

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  13. I question advocating high speed CQC type tactics for clearing your house…

    Those type tactics are really unsuitable without training, practice, teammates, hard armor and suitable long guns…

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  14. 9mm 124g Speer Gold Dot, 115g +P Cor-Bon
    45 ACP any practice ammo and 185g ASYM for competition
    357 magnum Cor-Bon 125g +P
    .223 Remington 55g Power-Lokt

    “You can’t have enough ammo because paper targets still have us outnumbered.”

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  15. Black Hills 5.56, 55 gr. 50,000
    Cor-Bon 5.56, DPX, 10,000
    Black Hills 308, 168 gr. 25,000
    Black Hills 45, 230 gr., FMJ 100,000
    Cor-Bon 45, 230 gr DPX 15,000
    Black Hills 9mm, 115 gr. FMJ 100,000
    Cor-Bon 9mm, 95 gr. DPX 15,000
    Federal 12ga, OO Buck, Flite Control 5,000
    Federal 12 ga, Low Recoil Slugs 5,000
    Fiocchi 12 ga, Crusher, #8 shot 100,000
    Fiocchi 20 ga, Game/Target, #8 shot 50,000
    CCI 22 long rifle, AR Tactical copper plated HP 100,000

    You can’t have enough ammo because . . .
    there’s no such thing as “enough ammo”.

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  16. 1 case of Cor Bon 9mm Luger Plus P 115gr DPX
    10 cases of Winchester 9mm Luger 115gr FMJ

    You can’t have enough ammo because you CAN have too much government. There is a good reason for the second amendment. Just ask the Founding Fathers.

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  17. Unlimited budget:

    7 pallets federal xm855-unknown part number
    1 pallet speer golddot 5.56 64gr-24448
    3 pallet speer lawman 9mm 147-53620
    3 pallet speer lawman 9mm 124-53651
    5 pallet speer lawman .45 200-53655
    1 pallet speer golddot 9mm 124 +P-53617
    1 pallet speer golddot .45 200 +P-53969
    1 pallet cci .22lr mini-mag 40gr-0030
    1 pallet cci .22lr standard velocity 40gr-0032
    1 half pallet cci .22lr subsonic hp 40gr-0056
    1 pallet federal 13200 truflite 00 buckshot
    1 pallet federal 1321b truflite 1 buckshot
    1 pallet federal leb127lrs truball slug
    2 pallets federal #8 tg12 topgun target

    1 very secure shed to store above in.

    You can’t have enough ammo because…

    …without ammo, my firearms become very expensive clubs.

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  18. Good shooting and pretty good use of cover as well- it really irks the shit out of me when competition guys just kind of run into the open and start shooting every target from a stationary position. I know paper doesn’t shoot back but it seems like building bad habits.

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  19. Federal .223/5.56 as much as possible.

    You can never have to much ammo because no one ever regrets having more ammo than they need.

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  20. Black Hills Ammo
    .45acp. 9mm. 7.62x54R. 25auto. 38spec. 270win. 12ga
    You can’t have enough ammo because…..there are way more thugs, crooks, creeps and nuts out there waiting for you!

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  21. Sorry.
    This is a weak argument. A person who shares the same psych features as 70%-80% of the mass shooters of the past several decades should not have access to guns. PERIOD.
    Yes, there should be a formal adjudication process.
    Yes, there ought to be room for appeal.
    But if someone is schizophrenic with wild delusions and thought disturbance, they don’t need access to guns.
    A clear clinical line *CAN* be drawn between the Alex Jones fan and the prepper who fears economic collapse (and likely won’t go shooting up a church, a school or a mall) and the floridly psychotic individual (who – like Cho, Loughner, Holmes and others – is much more likely to do so).

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  22. 7.62×39

    You can’t have enough ammo because… I don’t always go to the range, but when I do I prefer dos AK’s! (sorry, stole the line from the internet)

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  23. Black Hills Ammo 5.56 / .223 22LR 30-06 7.62X39 9MM 38 Spec.
    You can’t have enough ammo because…..the world is a big bad place so you need to go train more.
    smitty

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  24. Black Hills 308 Match 175gr. Why handload when that stuff is so good?

    You can’t have enough, because no one needs that much ammo…right up until she does.

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  25. 9mm 124g Speer Gold Dot, 10k
    .308 168g Federal Gld Medal, 5k
    .22LR Winchester Xpert, 20k

    …because you never know when you’ll have to miss the weekend fun show to fly to California for a custody hearing on a 8 year old with addicted parents who are facing drug and weapons charges.

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  26. The couple are just liberal jerks who thinks laws dont apply to them just the masses they rule. too bad the gun shop owner didn’t deny the sale and spit in Kelly’s face.

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  27. Amen Mr. Fargo. Proves by this comment and her hunting humans comment proves this hag is nothing more than a dumb goose stepping Nazi and a swine of a human. She is brainless and lacks even a hint of logic. She praises our enemies and love the Nazi ideals and hates US GIs. Prove that Kalifornia and NY are the pigs slime of the US. Go ted Cruz who vowed to kill her bill any way possible.

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  28. 2.0 Billion rounds of .40 S&W in 165 grain Gold Dots
    2.0 Billion rounds of 10mm Auto in Buffalo Bore 180 grain
    2.0 Billion rounds of 9mm in 124 grain +P Gold Dots
    4.0 Billion rounds of Federal 5.56 55 grain FMJ
    4.0 Billion rounds of Winchester Razorback XT in .308 Win
    500,000 rounds of Federal Premium 180 Grain TSX in 300 W’by
    1.0 Billion rounds of Hornady Superformance 95 grain in .243 Win
    1.0 Trillion rounds of CCI Blazer in .22LR
    You can’t have enough ammo because there is no such thing.

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  29. 1k .50, .338, .308, .44, 9mm, .380
    2k 7.62×39, .223
    10k .22, .17, .177
    Or a billion of each.

    … there are seven billion possible bad guys.

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  30. 9 mm Luger
    .223/5.56

    “You can’t have enough ammo, because ammo is like Israeli supermodels, there’s never enough to go around!”

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  31. 5.56
    45 ACP
    9mm

    You can’t have enough ammo because… I keep finding the deals online and passing them to friends in (legislation pending, could be) banned states.

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  32. The Golden State has NO BUSINESS bankrolling religious fanatics. (And, YES, the anti-self defense milieu is a fanatical religion. They’re pretty much indistinguishable from the Hare Krishnas, and a LOT more annoying.)

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  33. 100,000 rds Green Tip 5.56mm
    100,000 rds Hornady Critical Defense .45
    100,000 rds Hornady Critical Defense .40
    100,000 Gold Dot .38+p
    Winchester PDX1 .410
    100,000 Surplus 8mm mauser
    Assorted 20ga
    Assorted 16ga
    2,000,000 CCI .22LR

    …Because I’m constantly taking newbies to the range to give them a life changing experience.

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  34. 9mm
    5.56

    “You can’t have enough ammo, because finding 5.56 or .223 in Hawai’i was already a waiting game BEFORE the panic or election, since most distributors seem to be unaware that yes, you actually CAN ship ammo here to private cutomers.”

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  35. As others have indicated, I could vote for this woman for POTUS. I believe she has a keen sense of reality and practicality; something that has eluded us now for years.
    I hope the party hacks are listening.

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  36. .40 S&W
    9mm
    .223/5.56

    “You can’t have enough ammo because . . . ”

    As long as you have a barreled action to feed, you need something to feed it. There ARE starving guns here in America after all…

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  37. .45 230gr. fmj or jhp 3 cases
    5.56mm NATO or .223 remington 55gr fmj 3 cases
    .308 168gr fmj 3 cases
    9mm 1 case 147gr jhp, 2 cases 115gr fmj
    .380 90gr jhp 3 cases
    .38 special 125gr swc 2 cases
    .357 magnum 125gr jhp 1 case
    12 gauge 1 case each of target, 00 buck, slugs and bird shot.
    You can’t have enough ammo because you’ve got to practice, practice, practice.

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  38. 10,000 rounds per caliber. No less, but more is always welcome.

    You can’t have enough ammo because . . . the Constitution doesn’t limit me in how much I can own. Period.

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  39. People, realize that what feinstein did is a GREAT thing.

    not because i agree with her, but because it just dropped any chance for passage of it, or related bills, from even getting to a vote.

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  40. This is the reason that we all have to get the word out. Too many people only pay attention–scant, at that–to what the six o’clock news has to say. We must make clear in blogs, on Twitter, in coversations, wherever, that the goal of gun control freaks is total disarmament.

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  41. Quote: “It’s not a revolver, its a single action gun”.

    WTF?

    RTFM.

    Please let us see the face of this guy so we can run from the range if he is spotted.

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  42. It would take a mistake.

    The Disarmament Lobby has used the tried and true method of incrementalism. It works because each stage seems innocent. We’re not disarming everyone ,just the boogeymen. Since the gun laws dont explicitly say that anyones guns are being confiscated, logical warnings fall on deaf ears. No ones coming to collect my dads 30-30, so why care .

    No one perceives a threat until the process is so far gone that gun control is a social norm.By the time someone does come for that 30-30, its way too late, because then everyone considers gun ownership to be an act as socially reprobate as child molestation.

    Unless they make a mistake by overreaching with their laws, as we see in NY with the SAFE act.The frog WILL jump out of the pot if the temp dials turned up too fast.

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  43. .22 LR 40 gr (Federal Premium 1240 fps)
    .22LR 38 gr subsonic.
    2 3/4″ 12 ga 00 Buckshot (>=8 lead pellets) Remington or Federal
    2 3/4″ 12 ga Federal #8 >=1 1/8 oz lead Remington or Federal
    3″ 12 ga T hevi-shot (>1 oz) Remington or Federal
    3″ 12 ga #6 lead (>1.5 oz) Remington or Federal

    3″ remington accutips 20 ga deer slugs
    30-06 Hornady 165gr superperformance.
    45 ACP (Remington)

    Because you cant have enough ammo.

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  44. .40 S&W
    9mm Luger
    .223/5.56
    .22 LR
    .243
    .308

    You can never have too much ammo because all your friends come to your place in the country to shoot, and never thought it would actually come to this.

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  45. I’m not for these new bills and don’t want our guards to go down, but …

    Even with horrible new legislation, most gun functionality can still be present; a pump and a 6 rd pistol are good for home def. and CC. I’m not saying it is “enough” and the slippery slope scares me, but it is better than some countries, for now.

    Another RR/Waco would not wake up everyone, but it would many. They were big PR problems for the state. Lots of people are now likely active against disarmament because of these events.

    I’m just trying to be hopeful.

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  46. Rab: In four decades of law enforcement I’ve seen many many people stopped in their tracks with .22, .25, .32 and other “it’ll just make ’em mad” calibers. Any time you put a hole in the human body where there’s not supposed to be one, the recipient is having a bad day. Are bigger calibers better? Yes, but personally I wouldn’t stand in front of a .22 and laugh.

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  47. I carry a Black Widow in 22mag as my BUG every day. Its actually easy to reload once you practice. This was pretty funny to watch. I laughed so hard. LOL.

    Its really a very accurate weapon. I would not attempt a reload under fire but its not hard at all to reload.

    I love my little NAA BW.

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  48. Remington should remain in the Village of Ilion, NY. The last thing the gun industry needs is for the Freedom Group to move Remington to some nondescript Butler Building in South Carolina.

    As America’s oldest firearms manufacturer, Remington began in Ilion in 1816. Remington is Ilion and Ilion is Remington. It has been in its current physical plant of over 1,000,000 square feet since 1915. It produced arms for WWI and WWII. It is staffed by over 1,200 loyal, multi-generational skilled employees. Remington has accepted gov’t incentives in the past to invest and remain in Ilion.

    While the Freedom Group’s investment in Ilion is driven by maximizing profits and company value, the above is no less true.

    Your desire that Remington cut-and-run due to the SAFE act is wrong. It’s cowardly and it’s very short-sighted. Both heritage and courage mean a lot as does the future. I hope that Remington remains in Ilion and becomes part of a driving force to ultimately scuttle the SAFE Act.

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  49. Part of this reminds me of my Father.

    He only owns a Maverick 88 Shotgun, and is pro background checks, mag cap limits, ect

    He believes the Grabbers WILL NOT take our guns, Why? Because they say they will not take them.

    I wish he would wake up and smell the coffee, He is my father and I love and respect him, but his insistance on these things infuriates me.

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  50. On Waco: Watch Waco: The Rules of Engagement and the followup documentaries for some idea of just how corrupt and bloodthirsty the Federal actions there really were. The montages of the children asking (by telephone) Federal negotiators if they were there to kill them, followed by the urgent assurances of peaceful intentions, and ended by brief flashes of what happened to those kids when the tear gas turned to cyanide and then burned- those alone changed me forever in the way I viewed our government.

    Re: Unaware gun owners (willfully or not) My brother is a tool. He’s always needling; his insecurities make him at times (usually when drinking) even more of an overbearing jerk. But he’s my brother. I accepted an invite from the guy on Facebook (yes, I know having a FB account invites tool-dom. I keep it to easily catch up with far-away family in the hometown and a few friends). Sure enough, I soon found myself having to delete an inappropriate comment making fun of my wife for completing her first 1/2 marathon. The next one came when I responded to a friend on a gun-control query by citing a case reference. SuperBro said something about be sure to kill the next suspicious person, making sure to drag them inside for justification. Then to start taking Viagra and give up on the obsession with firearms.

    SuperBro is history. This is an intelligent guy speaking several languages (although out of work currently, zipping through his retirement), who considers himself not liberal or conservative, just The Smartest Guy in the Room like our Fearless One. He also owns a nice Ruger GP-101. I find many gun control proponents to be very similar to this lifelong tool.

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  51. “But gun owners like Michael Kundu come from a largely unexplored middle ground — a place of nuance and contradiction.”

    That’s not where the Kundu’s are from. They clearly still live there. And, hey, they’ve got a new neighbor, Mark Kelly! He’s a block down at the corner of Contradiction and Hypocrit’s Way. Of course Mr. Kundu is a Master Marksman. He’s a human bench rest. From the clothes and the decor, these two want peace and freedom…and secret guns, a double life, since they’ve got double everything else. What’s their alternative to a gun? Running away? No. The Wilsons? Sure they keep the ammo in a separate room….when they’re in Tahiti. These guys’ gun opinions are even more confused than my high-school girl-friend’s thoughts about going all the way. Glad they’ve got guns, nonetheless.

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  52. “You can’t have enough ammo because . . . you can’t afford tanks, Apache helicopters, F-16s, A-10s & aircraft carriers.”

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  53. Progressives are sub-human filth, the greatest threat this nation his ever faced. They are the closest thing to unequivocal evil that exist on this planet. Any truly just society would not allow them to exist.

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    • We’re over run with them here in Kalifornia. And they seem to control everything in government. The unions and the fashionably progressive liberal airheads continue to mindlessly vote them into office. Too few people here even know what critical thinking and evaluation mean. They just buy the lies and vote Hollywood style. There should be a reading comprehension and an intelligence test required to vote.

      It seems the only thing left to do is move out of state.

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  54. Nothing. The vast majority of subjects in this country are drooling, blind morons. Give them their ipads and Idol and they’re set in their self-enslaved non-lives. They follow the norm, and if the norm becomes disarmament, they’ll take it, so long a the nanny state keeps changing their diapers.

    If you look at history, more people have died protecting the governments that enslave them (USSR, China, etc) than throwing them off. After a few generations of being coddled and indoctrinated, people here are no different. There’s a reason Jefferson said God forbid we go 20 years without a revolution.

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  55. The last 4 months 2mm + background checks for gun purchases per month according to the FBI. and yet these “journalists” want to sell us on the idea that there are fewer gun owners out there.

    Don’t piss on my boots and try to tell me it’s raining.

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  56. .22LR
    9x19mm Luger
    5.56x45mm NATO
    7.62x54mm NATO
    7.62x39mm Soviet
    .408 CheyTac

    You can’t have enough ammo because you will be far better off with too much than too little.

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  57. I’d buy;
    500,000 rounds each of
    223/5.56
    45 acp
    9mm
    308 Win
    50 bmg

    You can’t have too much ammo because it’s better than gold, it’s always worth something, it’s actually useful in many situations (self defense, feeding your family, fun, resisting tyranny, barter, shtf, etc), and your guns are just hunks of polymer and/or iron without it.

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  58. Robert, I really enjoy my Black Widow, but PLEASE check out the Sidewinder. Once that is in full production, NAA will be even better. It will remove those problems.

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  59. What indeed? Maybe a demand to “turn-in” commonly held CCW handguns or regular hunting arms. That’s why the grabbers have been so careful of crossing that line so far – this is what’s really popular in numbers to effect elections. The SxS or pump shotgun, the revolver and maybe the small auto will be the last straw. I don’t see a lot of Ruby Ridges or Waco’s, I think they’ve learned from those, simply gathering names and files. The grabbers are clever, they’re playing this carefully, state by state, tick… tick… tick…

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  60. I’d love to get some MK262! Add to that a dash of FGMM 168 gr. .308, some remmy 220 gr .300 blk, and a nice fresh batch of 147 gr web bulk packs.

    Add in a dessert of some Hornady 55 gr z-max and that’ll fill my appetite for the time being.

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  61. Another example of why i don’t read the new york times. They wanted to write a story, they had an idea of what it should be about. The researched and found very loose and suspect data that proved their idea. They write a story around it. If i handed in a paper like that in college with skeptical data, i would have gotten an F. Yet, these people are allowed to write and make the front page, their word is taken like factual gold.

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  62. The most entertaining gun review on YouTube. LOL Thanks for the laughs RF. A sign of a good man is that he would always happily expose his own weakness in the face of his critics. Nicely done video.

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  63. I love that part about how 30 plus 14, allowing for some overlap, is “closer to 50.

    Keep spinnin’ it, Robert. Your AI just lap it up.

    What both the NYT and the Gallup surveys say is that all your talk about first time gun buyers and women buying guns in nonsense. The panicky run on guns and ammo is being done by gullible gun owners who are stupid enough to buy the NRA’s scare tactics. You’re doing your part too.

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  64. Everybody has their own internal trigger that signals when enough is enough, there are still many people who have not paid attention to what is going on in the last couple months. I engaged one fellow who came into the store wearing his orange camo about Feinstein’s bill, “what gun ban?” he had not heard about it.

    It really does get down to a small percentage that are aware and will be active. I don’t think it does any good to worry about the ones still sleeping at the wheel, you just keep talking and putting yourself out there.

    What comes will come in terms of people getting their eyes open. Media is a Weapon as Abbie Hoffman was fond of saying and it is a weapon we need to weild as well as we do a rifle.

    You are also a weapon, your whole being, so many gun owners are invisible and we need to be visible so that people can see the faces of gun owners and realize that these are folks that they work with, sit next to in church, that shop at the local market.

    I think there are a lot of little things that can be done, even if you just wear your blaze orange or camo out in the community its a small thing but you make yourself visible, if you talk about gun ownership with people thats another, if everyone who supports the Second amendment wore blaze orange on the same day that sends a message.

    March 23rd is the anniversary of Patrick Henrys famous Give me Liberty or Give me Death Speech. At 6PM on March 23rd blow an air horn, ring every bell, sound every horn for Liberty. Engage in a little Civil Disobedience, the important thing is to get people to engage, even if it seems like a little thing it makes it easier to take the next step and feel that you are a part of something.

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  65. Would there be a possibility of a citizen filing a straw purchase case against him in AZ? criminal or civil? IANAL.

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  66. 2,500 each:
    .380
    38 special
    9mm
    45ACP
    .223
    12ga (assorted slugs, buckshot and birdshot)
    10,000 22lr

    You can’t have enough ammo because practice requires a steady supply. Also, you can’t have enough ammo period.

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  67. The S&W 15-22 is great. It’s a fun gun to plink with.

    It would be even more fun if we could still buy cheap .22 LR by the bucket!

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  68. The bill was amended in the Senate so it actually has to go back to the House for another vote before it gets to Hickenlooper. We’re not totally out of luck just yet.

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  69. I only carry concealed, now that I have retired as a full-time LEO. In uniform, I can see the possibilities. On my bedside gun, yes (a G19 with a Surefire).

    However, while some holster makers will accomodate a light, the added bulk for a concealed gun does not work for me. I’ll stick to a separate light.

    For a home defense SGN, I also like it. What I don’t like is what I have seen both in pictures and in action – officers using their weapon mounted light, simply as a light, during searches. So everywhere you want to illuminate, you cover with the muzzle. Not cool, violates several safety rules, and an invitation to a ND.
    Obviously, YMMV.

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  70. “…for the people, by the people.”
    I guess that’s over-rated. This is what happens when your elected officials (career politicians) do not either understand the basis of the constitution, or they simply don’t care.

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