In a post called Why You Shouldn’t Take a Gun When Hiking on the Appalachian Trail: IMI Systems Quote of the Day, a snowflake named Margaret (not shown) offered a whole lot of reasons why she wouldn’t tool-up for her national forest adventures. TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia shot down her arguments with extreme prejudice. Which left a void: What are the best guns for hiking, especially in grizzly country? Ruger, Colt, Glock, Smith & Wesson, Taurus, even Springfield are all great options for backpacking, but here are my picks . . .
Smith & Wesson 642 Airweight (around $450)
If you want a firearm that can take down a black bear, wolf, mountain lion or other small game or four-legged critters, Smith’s five-shot .38 caliber snubbie is not the gun you’re looking for. Nor would it be suitable for “where the F am I?” emergency hunting.
Bear spray or pepper spray are considered self-defense options by some, but if you’re a hiker seeking more protection from two-legged threats, the 642 is, as the Brits say, better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
The 15-ounce Smith and Wesson Model 642 Airweight’s biggest, maybe even only, advantage: The handgun is easily schlepped into United States bear country in a fanny pack or comfortable IWB holster. It provides supreme portability over however many miles of Mother Nature an outdoorsman seeks to traverse. It’s also reliable AF, no matter what the conditions. Speaking of which . . .
GLOCK 20 (around $615)
While the GLOCK 20 is a lot bigger than the diddy little ccw five-shot Smith, it only exacts a 13-ounce weight penalty. Not to be a Buffalo Bore, that doesn’t include the weight of the cartridges. Which cost a bomb and weigh a ton. But the full-size G20’s capability is from another planet.
With the right 10mm ammo, with appropriately placed shots, Gaston’s gat is great personal defense against a bad man or a rampaging grizzly bear at a fair distance, maybe even both at in quick succession, what with its 15+1 magazine capacity.
As you’d expect, the semiautomatic GLOCK 20 is an uber-reliable semi-auto pistol that doesn’t require a lot of babying to keep running. As for concealed carry comfort, there are plenty of backpacker compatible options, from cover-it-with-your shirt outside-the-waistband holsters to not-so-covert-now-eh-Mr.-Bond chest-mounted rigs.
Henry Repeating Arms lever gun in .30-30 (around $699 and up)
If you’re serious about not becoming bear scat in Colorado or hunting something brown-bear big in between communing with nature, you need some serious firepower. Any shotgun that fires slugs is a good choice. Any long gun in a suitably powerful caliber is also a suitable contender for a backwoods/desert/mountaintop companion.
[NOTE: This list does not include my weighty 5.56 caliber SCAR-16 as toted by Liberte Austin in the pic at the top of this post. That was clickbait humor.]
I’m going with the Henry .30-30 in don’t-mind-if-I-ding-it stainless steel. The lever gun offers an ideal combination of light weight (7 lbs.), maneuverability (39” long), portability (swivel studs, useful with iron sights out to 125 yards or so), large predator “stopping power,” accuracy, capacity, safety (carry it without a round in the chamber) and last but not least, cool.
Yeah, I know: the Big Boy is not a carry gun per se. But if you’re carrying it, it’s a carry gun, right? As Elvis might have said, carrying the Henry feels so good how can it be wrong? If you see Margaret, ask her. Better yet, don’t. If you don’t understand it, it’s not for you.
Note: Federal, state and local laws vary. Always contact the appropriate law-enforcement agency to confirm the rules and regulations of the area in which you plan to hike.
More about hiking and carrying:
Outside Magazine Really Doesn’t Want You to Hike With a Gun
Want to Stay Safe When You’re Out on the Trail? Carry A Gun
Here’s the Best Backcountry Sidearms for Hunters, Hikers, and Campers – (Gun reviews of Smith & Wesson .44 magnum, .45 ACP Smith & Wesson 1911, Ruger LCP .380 ACP, Glock 20 10mm, .380 ACP Smith & Wesson Bodyguard)
Ruger Releases SP101 .357 Magnum With 4.2-inch Barrel and Fiber Optic Sights
Which Gun Would You Grab: Hiking in Bear Country Edition
The Company K Colt 4th Cavalry Single Action Army
Gun Review: Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan Double-Action Revolver
Taurus Adds .454 Casull to Raging Hunter Series
The source article is behind a paywall. Why do you guys constantly do this?
If she/ he/ it can find an actual example of a “right-wing fascist” I’ll kiss her/ his/ its ass and swear she/ he/ it is completely sane. But she/ he / it can’t, because all fascists are leftists. And she/ he/ it is a total nut job.
Can’t quibble with your choices. Much. J-frame .38 or .357 – perfect. 10mm is a great round, though I never could get a Glock 20 to run reliably with original-spec loads and swapped it for a Razorback. Thirty-thirty is OK, but any light lever gun in a decent centerfire rifle or big pistol caliber is fine without looking too out of place (on western trails at least).
Commenting isn’t as much fun if you agree with the post.
White top, blue middle, red bottom is actually Russia’s flag.
Where can I buy a bolt-action .22 AR15?
That read to me like two articles kinda pushed together.
– Individuals in out groups taking care of themselves
– Bad, evil neo-fascist…
It feels like the article’s subject was baited into the over the top quotes.
The fact is, out groups get less protection from the social system they’re in – by definition. And the organized enforcement arms will exploit out groups – try driving in N J with an out of state license plate, for example. And out-groups get preyed on by opportunists because they get less protection. So, tool up. And be aware of whether the enforcers think you are their tribe.
“But, but, but… eeee-ville fascists, and secret police becuase Trump!” is just lazy. Everything is a sign of The Orange Crush’s weirdness-crushing agenda(*) just like HotColdWetDry confirms global warming. It’s sloppy, emotional non-argument, spun to keep people wee-wee’d up. (Odd term, that. Where did I pick that up, I wonder?)
Of course, the anti’s need an end of the world wrapper on this, because otherwise they might have to note that citizen arms are particularly valuable to out groups. And that disarming the people you want to exploit n oppress has been part of the formula forever. Like, I don’t know, removing franchise and arms from black people in the post-war South. By law.
(*) They’re grasping on that one. Have they seen his hair?
I think I’d like to have a double rifle in .450 Nitro Express in case I stumble across a rhino on the Appalachian Trail. My bearer, Harry, can carry it for me.
Hey, you never know.
Our local bear hunting club uses Ruger 44 caliber revolvers. They shoot them put of trees after the dogs chase them there. It works for them.
I’ll stick with my High Power for walking the State Forest trails.
Glock says the 20 weighs 30.89oz unloaded and 39.71oz loaded. The S&W 642 is 15oz and 5 rounds of .38 special are about 2.6oz, so you’re at 17.6oz. So, where’s that 13oz weight penalty for the Glock 20 at? Are you recommending carrying the Glock 20 unloaded when hiking or something?
wat?
J frame 442 in front right pocket loaded with BB copper hollow points. In an Uncle Mikes pocket holster.
The AT, like my stomping grounds in CA, has no grizzlie bears.
Only thing I would add to that is something like the M6 scout in .22lr over .410. Light weight and a real meal provider if SHTF.
Bit hard to get a Wilderness carry ATC up here if you’re not a trapper, so:
1. A Dominion Arms Grizzly mag-fed with the 8.5 inch barrel.
2. A Henry Mare’s leg in .44 magnum, with a youth-length stock fitted
3. Chiappa Ridge Runner takedown in .45-70.
Special mention goes to an antique pistol in .44 Russian or .455 Webley and the RCMP letter confirming antique status.
I carry a 10MM EAA Witness compact when I go hiking. It has a 12 round magazine capacity and fits my hand comfortably. Yes, it’s a little heavy, but that’s OK for me. It has power and can be nicely concealed with a 3.6″ barrel.
Blued Ruger Blackhawk with 4 5/8 in bbl. with Heavy Loads.
The blues Model is 4 oz lighter than the stainless.
Out in the wild a good non folding knife (like a Buck 102) is a tool for every day, thus meeting one of her self described primary criteria. To eliminated it because it is also a weapon is showing that her value signaling is pushing rationality a bit to the side.
My Dad was a deputy Sherrif for 20 years, and two things he taught me. Don’t let a cop in your house, and don’t trust anything they say because they Will lie. Those words have severed me well. Unless you have a warrant your not getting in, and I have had no problem taking to them through the window when they showed up for a false home alarm. They didn’t seem to mind.
My list would be
S&W 360
Glock 29 Gen4
S&W 329
Carry light and pack a punch. If you live in Alaska you might want to invest in a Ruger Alaskan .480 or Toklat, and if you live in the wilds of Canadia you should get a 12 gauge pump shotgun with a folding stock or PGO.
A right-wing fascist is what every left-winger sees in the mirror.
Forcing people to serve in a cause for the State implies that the State is more important than the individual. This is forced altruism. One of the outcomes of such a system is that the State is the most important and must be protected over any person(s) in society. The State can thus force anyone to do anything to preserve the State’s existence including the murder of its own people. You see where this is going…
The State could justify seizing anyone’s property because the state claims to need it; they will bring guns.
Forcing individuals to join the military for the public good requires them to be a victim. The individual should not be forced to recognize the good of others, such recognition should be a choice.
In most areas of the lower 48 it seems that whatever you would typically carry for urban personal defense would be the way to go, since most critters (cougar, etc) are likely to be stopped by any adequate “regular” personal defense load (G26 or G43 with Federal HST 147s for instance). And, since they’re likely to be moving, shot placement and follow-up shot speed will be very important.
In areas where I’m likely to encounter anything bigger (bear and such) the G20 with Federal Vital Shok JSP is my go-to with a 642 tucked in my pocket.
An honest conversation about guns wouldn’t involve them at all. Guns are not the problem. People are. Guns are just mere objects. Culture and demographics are the problem.
If guns were the problem you would hear of places like Switzerland and the Czech Republic filled with stories of “machine gun violence” since it is much easier and cheaper to acquire them in those places than here yet it doesn’t happen. Why? Culture and demographics…..
It’s people, stupid!!
In the case of America, our stats are inflated because of inner-city ghetto violence and the fact we are the only First World country to border a Third World craphole with an appetite for drugs. Elimination of those two factors would make the U.S. the safest country in the world.
With that many military trained people, and military potential, what do you do when a group of politicians decide to turn them all into cannon fodder and spark some big war with another first world country?
Here’s the deal: You’re never, ever going to convince anyone with an extreme political position of anything. Facts don’t matter. Science doesn’t matter. (“Of course, we’ll cherry pick what studies we can to prove our point.”) You have to remember when you debate an extremist, you are not going to convince them of anything. Nor should you even be trying. Who you are REALLY addressing is the large percentage who are silent but could be swayed with reason, fact, and logic. The bystanders. The lurker reading or listening to your debate. THOSE are the people who you need to convince. Be logical. Be polite. Provide references. The bystanders CAN be convinced. They will remember who seemed like a nut–and who calmly and rationally proved their point. Their votes and ours combined are why we still have freedom in this country.
^This is so true.
The key to winning the war of ideas is to be truthful and propagate one’s message relentlessly. Sadly, we are not winning this war of ideas. I don’t know how to make it happen, but we need to help produce a pro-2a argument that is heard widely and can compete against the combined relentless MSM/Bloomberg’s agitprop, to which the American public are presently subjected.
The NRA can help us in courts and lobbying, but another group really needs to be created to help mainstream pro-2a ideas forcefully on the national stage. Otherwise we are speaking in an insular vacuum, and our truth will not be heard but by those who already agree with our thinking…
My choice for Pacific NW hiking (bears, LOTS of moose) is a Ruger SRH Alaskan .480 with 400 gr hardcast (subsonic) in a Simply Rugged chest rig. Plus an LCP2 riding in a pocket as a BUG. In camp I have a Mossberg 930SPX with 3 inch Black Magic slugs. If I cross into Canada only the shotgun will go with me, and I guess I will have to carry that darned bear spray away from camp. JD Spokane WA
Just a guess by me, but it seems that a majority of crime in the US is committed by liberals against other liberals. It also seems to me that a lot of crimes by liberals against conservatives don’t end well for the liberals,
Always gotta look for the silver lining…… (BIG SMILEY FACE)
Caliber warz, for the most part, seem pretty honest…
The go to “it’s for safety ploy”. Never has been, never will be. At least be honest lady. You know damn well your BS is about control.
It should start with: My second amendment rights, like all other rights, are God given and non negotiable.
The British Empire stretched around the world in the not too distant past. Now they are but a ghostly shadow of their former selves. The same happened with the Germans, who recently owned most of Europe, and what happened to Sweden and Norway, whose Viking ancestors terrified the world? And the French, well they haven’t changed much.
The Muslims happened, with a well planned and executed invasion, soon to turn all of Europe into a vassal of the Caliphate, with the help of the politically correct liberal fancy boys and rabid feminists running the show…..
King Richard Lion Heart, why didn’t you finish the job?????
Hiking, not hunting. Throw a .30-30 or other long gun on your back on the AT and someone is likely going to assume poaching. This is as bad as the EDC pocket dump – everything but the kitchen sink.
For the AT, I’d want a handgun and I’d choose a Charter Arms .44 Spl in a Simply Rugged OWB holster, with a few rounds of ammo for snakes and more for personal defense. I’d also want a Mossberg 590 “Shockwave” in 12-ga (in an over-the-shoulder scabbard strapped to my pack) with slugs or buckshot, with a few rounds in #6 in the pack for taking small game in an on-trail emergency. Except in Maryland and New York State, I’d be legal with that. Come to think of it, those guns probably wouldn’t be a bad outfit out West, too. I was also thinking that a ’92 takedown in .44-40 or .45 Colt would be an acceptable substitute for the Shockwave.
Gun control fascists routinely pick and choose which laws they take absolutist positions on. A citizen in lawful possession of a firearm with no intent to do any harm to anyone gets locked up. A non-citizen rapist, sex trafficker or murderer? The obedient little fascist wants to give THEM amnesty. Free speech only for people with like beliefs, others are subject to fascist leftist violence. Fundementally, their ignorance of guns and a Hollywood-inspired understanding of guns and gun owners drives them to obsess.
Scary hound faced woman with unacceptable
Opinions, choose to ignore her
I only have “honest” conversations about guns.
What, you’ve been lying up til now? Well, that’s distressing. Or maybe it’s all those other anti-gunners who’ve been lying?
At any rate, feel free to start being honest. Whenever you’re ready.
Gun grabbers “honest conversations” always begins with “Let’s first establish the ground rules…. heads I win, tails you lose.”
Some valid points on the Ruger and S&W. I have been looking at the S&W as an inexpensive .308 AR that works out of the box – even if it is on the rough side. If I were purchasing a new AR in vanilla 5.56 I’d build my own to the specs I want and need. On a .308 though? You have to watch every detail to get the build right and reliable. For me to get the build right to my expectations I know I’ll end up spending well more than a grand.
So, for a grand what would I get – S&W or Ruger to have a big bore rifle? Neither… I’d go the other way and purchase the Bergara HMR in 6.5 Creed. This is a rifle that makes a half blind, lousy in the accuracy-department kind of shooter like myself say “Damn! That’s some mighty fine shooting!’ 😉
Bergara’s barrel manufacturing and triggers really are that good for a sub-$1000 rifle out of the box and… I think I just talked myself off the fence I’ve been straddling and on Tuesday morning I’ll go and make my local gun shop owner think to himself “This is a good way to start the week off…”
No, Americans should retain the freedom to do as they please. Besides, have you met Millenials? You want to share a foxhole with most of them?
https://ruger.com/products/1022Takedown/specSheets/21182.html
I have seen too many conscript army where the majority of the troops were horrible, I would never want the US to go to a mandatory military service. It would have too negative an impact on the caliber of our troops and the capability of our military.
I added this stock in FDE to my 10/22 takedown and it is awesome. The ergonomics are phenomenal and the function is outstanding. I have aftermarket raised AR style sights, so I use the higher cheek comb and it is very comfortable.
If we could interview St. Peter, how many women do you think would have said to him “I wish I had a gun when I needed it?”
Was very clear…said” personal weapons for recreational or service use”…
“Guns in any condition can be brought in, …
Yeah. I’ll get right the eff on that.
Douche-bags.
Just a thought… Has anyone hit an H9’s slide with a mallet yet? Seems like an important test for new striker guns these days…
forget the guns, I will take the blond. why can’t I get a hiking companion like that. well anyway, the glock 20 is good and powerful. and I myself would take my S&W M642 or Colt Agent as well as one of these; my S&W M 19 4″ 357 ( nickel ) or my S&W M22 ” 45auto/auto rim or my S&W M 21 44 spec . with a bunch of different loads of course. lite stuff and heavy stuff. or I could take my S&W M327 8 shot 5″ 357 mag thunder ranch performance special. which has attachments for a scope and a laser or lite. works with moon clips and is only as heavy as the M19. and maybe my old Marlin 336 or Winchester trapper 30/30. or perhaps m M500 12 ga shotgun. with some slugs. ( 18″ barrel with rifle sites, 5 round tube plus one). any one of those would be ok to have.
She can carry the guns, and I will carry her.
It is not possible to have a productive conversation with an anti-civil rights person. It is a waste of valuable time.
Getting dumped in the water in cold weather seems to me to be exceptionally lethal.
Not just the low water and air temps, but you’re wearing *heavy* winter clothing that takes time to get out of that will drag your ass down *fast*.
Some fishermen down here in Florida have a lightweight CO2-cartridge inflatable vest over their shirts for emergencies. They ain’t cheap, though…
I got one of those auto-inflatable vests that I wear whenever I go boating. When I was a kid my dad would always make me wear the big goofy orange life jackets every time we went fishing. If you believe in safety enough to carry a gun and/or wear your seatbelt, you should also have enough sense to wear a life jacket any time you’re on the water.
“Illegal hunting is not hunting at all”
Damned right it isn’t, Liberte. I get real tired of the correlation gun bigots try to draw between poachers and law abiding hunters. A poacher is NOT a hunter – they lose all claim to that title and should be shunned by any who aspire to be worthy of being called a Hunter.
There is a very good reason the Texas anti-poaching program is called Operation Game Thief. 1-800-792-4263 to report poachers.
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“If you’re a trans woman, the person you’re killing is likely to be someone society values more than you ”
Uhhh….who cares? All that should matter is that you value your own life enough to kill to preserve it.
I love my stock… and still fits in the original 10-22 backpack bag.
Speaking of hunting dog puppies, Liberte, I’m anxiously waiting for postings on the progress of the GSD hunting companion you mentioned you were getting. As a fan of GSD’s, and convinced that they can do anything any other breed of dog can do, only better, I really want to hear about how they develop as hunting dogs.
#sheknew
#NOSHIT
*long post here* Looks like her view isn’t very popular, however I would not hesitate to agree with her decision despite her not so stellar reasoning. I’m an avid gun enthusiast and reloader of 20 some years, and I try to carry everywhere I go.
I hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2005 and made the decision not to carry for several reasons. The first is weight. On a long distance hike, 2174 miles, 10-20 miles a day, weight was always an issue. Always, always, always! It was a battle between pack weight, food weight, and water weight, especially in the winter. Carry too much weight and you don’t make miles, or worse yet, you get injured and have to stop, and I was injured on several occasions. Pack weight was always a wrestling match and varied from 35 to 40 pounds, and sometimes 45 pounds coming out of camp. A nice Glock 19 is 19 ounces unloaded and that’s a lot, not to mention the space it takes up. I know there are those of you in the military who say you carried 80 pounds in the service and blah blah blah, but my body could not handle that, and I doubt yours could either for 7 months straight. Remember there is no medevac in the middle of nowhere. There was a military guy who did carry an 80 pound pack, but I heard he dropped in the first few weeks.
Safety is a common issue as well, however the AT has become a rather benign community. It is rare that you are not hiking amongst a community of hikers in your daily routine except towards the later months when many others have quit or dropped out. The only real threat I encountered were yellow jackets. Others were moose, black bear, and a guy with a knife strapped to his calf. Black bears in the east are really not a problem – you just yell at them and they go away. As far as people go, you just keep hiking. It’s nice to keep a knife handy, but there was rarely a moment where I felt so threatened by a person to warrant any action, and you can always stealth camp somewhere well away from them. There was rarely a time I was not camped out among fellow hikers and friends, and there was a level of trust we all shared and a security within the group.
Security is another issue. When you get to town you often leave your pack in a hostile or outside a restaurant. It’s tough to secure a pistol when you aren’t in possession of it. There are also 14 states that you need to have a license to carry, and at the time there just wasn’t the reciprocity to stay legal.
Were there occasions where it would have been nice to have a firearm handy on my trek? Maybe. MAYBE, but probably not. The hassle factor was very high, and I never really felt the need. It’s a big responsibility and a good firearm owner will need to weigh their options before making a decision to carry.
I know it would be very difficult but everyone who has children needs to agitate for a shooting program in their school. Everything has to start small. It can be BB guns at first. Or it can be bow and arrow. How about a sling shot or sling bow class?
Guns, ammunition, a gun safe, that cost money for a school.
Cost is always a factor when setting up a new class and maintaining it. As parents we must demand this if we want our children taught about 2A. The majority are government schooled, not home schooled.
The second amendment is about “arms” not just about guns. Civil war reeactors have set up a camp in local schools here for a week’s worth of classes.
There are ways to do this but YOU are going to have to spend your time on this as well. I’m in the process of doing this myself here in Kentucky.
Or do what I did. Go buy your kids a bb gun at age 6 then a youth size 22lr at age 7. Then take them shooting with you. Let your kids explain guns are fun! Oh and expect a call or two from the school and perhaps a visit from the guidance counselor or CPS personnel depending how whacko the teacher is.
There are artists who create with fully functioning firearms as well. Pity the MSM ignores them.
“according to a study by Michigan State University states that take guns from known violent criminals have a 22 percent lower rate of intimate-partner homicide by gun” – Was the overall intimate partner homicide rate any lower, or only the rate by gun???
It would also be interesting to see whether this supposed reduction is relatively uniform across the states, or whether the lump total of all states with the laws was compared to states without, with no concern for the variation in rate between different states within each group.
Domestic Violence is a misdeamnor. It was a Cliton era gun ban. Loss of firearms for life, for a misdeamnor. Not a felony( which can be expunged , and gun rights restored. A DV misdeamnor loses guns for life, no exceptions. What does the law consider a DV, how about a ripped shirt or blouse in a heated argument. Of all the laws against guns we complain about, this is one that needs changed.
Kentucky is home to the finest culinary tradition in America, specifically Kentucky Fried Chicken. It’s also on the way to legalizing marijuana on the state level, which will help with late night sales of KFC. Kentucky is a great place, so long as all you want to experience is Kentucky Fried Chicken.
I’d be more than happy to test one out 🙂
I wonder about the trigger; with no trigger dingle and no safety, I infer it is DAO. Which I don’t mind as my EDC is a Kahr, but trigger weight and length of the trigger pull are always issues with such triggers. I like that it doesn’t look like a SIg–I never much cared for their styling. Personally, I prefer a little more barrel; the 3″ barrels can result in a lot of muzzle flash and flip. For a Sig, the price is actually kind of low, but it is in line with other similar guns on the market. Although Shields can be found on sale for $300 or so, mostly they run in the mid-400s without night sights. LC9s (and the CM/CW Kahrs) run significantly less, but have less capacity as well. Assuming that this will drop about $50 retail in the short term, and perhaps another $50 in the longer term, this would make a great carry gun for my daughter (who lives in a free state). [This pistol will not qualify for the California Roster even if the microstamping rule goes away, as it lacks a manual safety, and LCI and probably a mag disconnect as well, all of which are required here.]
For comparison, my Kahr CW9 is two ounces lighter, 3.64″ barrel, 7+1 capacity, DAO trigger, .095″ wide. I paid $385 several years ago; it is easily found for less now. Mags are about $20. It easily and comfortably conceals in an IWB holster, as I imagine the Sig will as well.
No. I’m OK with the concept of a restraining order. It’s a formal order whose violation and consequences are explicit. I know, I know, it’s just a piece of paper. Except it isn’t. It’s backed by real consequences.
For many people, even someone who actually has smacked his or her partner around once or twice, that retraining order is a wake-up call. It’s serious now. There’s no need to confiscate that person’s firearms, damaging them, “losing them” entangling him/her in further bureaucracy and expense, because he or she has gotten the message. They’ll abide by that order to stay away from its subject, so there’s no valuable purpose in snatching their firearms.
For others, that piece of paper, plus consequences for violation, still equals jack squat. They’ll ignore it and do as they please, regardless. Really, anybody who volates that whole law against murder thing, is going to blow right past any restraining order. They will also overcome any lack of immediate availability of weapons, too, had those been confiscated previously. So even for these people, any firearms confiscation order would be just as useless.
Ineffectiveness, a petitioner’s false sense of security, in addition to the due process defects, all make this not only a bad idea, but possibly one that puts victims in even greater danger. Unfortunately, this is counterintuitive and not easily understood by regular people, especially when there’s some gun grabber slithering around, playing on emotions and banging the drum for confiscation.
The government of Australia has contained the balls of their subjects in glass jars
I thought the general wisdom on the subject was that it doesn’t matter what it looks like, all guns are dangerous, no?
HEY AUSTRALIA !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTI-PW9kvkQ
MURICA, F**k YEAH!
This is the first new striker-fired nine to get my attention in a long time. I could retire my SR9c for this. I’ll wait and see how it runs for the early adopters.
There is a post in the Sig forums that claim some retailers are taking pre-orders for $499, which is a lot less than MSRP.
Awesome little shotthing.
And I just bought a Glock 43 with night sights. Oh, well. It’s been reliable so far and works well for pocket carry.
Paper burns. Digital never goes away
Texas Law Shield, for two, is about $270/yr.