“I had no belief that putting a lot of effort in an assault weapons ban would get us anywhere. I had sort of lost faith in our ability to ever get there. The Parkland thing, now I just feel reinvigorated, and I would vote for an assault weapons ban, today,”  – Candidate for Congress Brad Ashford in Democrats even in GOP country shift toward gun restrictions [via yahoo.com]

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    • I guess we will find out in November.

      It all boils down to whether or not a LOT of voters oppose government harassing lawful firearm owners and whether or not those voters will show up at the polls.

      Personally, I am deeply concerned about Progressives gaining a lot of ground. They are adept at lying, accusing, smearing, and exploiting emotion — versus conservatives who usually limit themselves to “fair” fights. As we have said on this forum many times, there is no such thing as a “fair” fight. And anyone who limits themselves to a “fair” fight will often lose.

      • You have to remember that the treasonous MSM is essentially preaching to the choir. Their goal in 2016 was to shame & discourage Trump supporters (aka “patriots”) by calling them deplorable, unwashed, uneducated, racist, sexist, terroristophobic…and that they should save themselves a trip to the polls since Trump and his “hairdo” didn’t stand a chance of beating HRC, the worst SOS in the herstory of America. A woman who was very qualified to be President, because she was married to an impeached President, and because the DNC had promised her the office if she’s just sit down, shut up, and let the Wookie win…I mean let the monkey win…I mean Obama…
        But guess what? The MSM only convinced the LIBERALS not to bother voting. After all, Trump didn’t stand a chance, did he? Why, HRC was leading Donald by DOUBLE-DIGITS IN EVERY STATE even on election night. What happened?!
        The Demwits will try the same tactic again, although I’m sure it will cost Soros even more money to import felons, Illegos and other ineligible voters. But Trump and TRUE CONSERVATIVES will prevail. If not, better ready yourself for another civil war…except THIS time the “rebels” will be the Blue States.

        • I live in Texas where state wide elections are a foregone conclusion. The MSM had me nervous enough that I believed I needed to go out and vote.

          It turned out to all be a lie, but what if it hadn’t, and I had stayed home or voted third party in protest?

          Point being, it’s funny how things can backfire.

    • Tarred and feathered !! One can have a dream. Maybe we should put all the dems on a bunch of boats & find them an island to live on. No guns allowed, give each one a club & let them have at each other. After all isn’t that what they are proposing for us in a way ?

      • Why don’t we just give them California? Do a property swap between the few conservatives still in Cali and the snowflakes that want to flock there. Extend the wall to include California. They can all live happily together with the illegals they care so much about. No guns, knives, screw drivers, ice picks, or metal forks allowed.

    • Have not missed a vote since I voted Reagan in 1980. Don’t plan too either. I’ll be out in Nov 2018. Those who sit home and don’t vote places your own self-interests at risk. No thanks. 2A too important to sit at home. Democrats or the leftists nowadays will ruin your rights, your life and run this country into the ground if given the chance.

  1. I’ve been wrong about politics before, but if the Demoncrats think they can win in a reinvigorated economy on gun control and Stormy Daniels I just can’t see it going well for them.

      • Good point.

        If I am wrong, my prediction is they’ll forget all about gun control and move straight into the impeachment proceedings, which will be entertaining. Maybe they’ll be able to dig up some more over the hill porn stars the President slept with 20 years ago. It will be fun watching all the faces of the liberal twits when they realize they just made Mike Pence president. Probably a lot like when they realized HRC had just lost.

        • The problem is that Pence won’t be POTUS for long. Maxine Waters has given us the playbook.

          If they can convict Trump on basically nothing (you don’t have to like the guy to realize that he’s done nothing truly impeachable) then Pence is next.

          Once that’s done then the Speaker of the House becomes POTUS. That’s called a “coup” and it means a weaponized impeachment system where any party that controls the House and the Senate also controls the White House regardless of who wins an election for POTUS.

        • The only problem with your theory is that you’re assuming that Pence won’t appoint a new vice president. Although I’m assuming the senate has to confirm the appointment, but that would be really awkward even for Demoncrats to be prosecuting another president while simultaneously blocking the appointment of a new vice president so that Nancy Polosi could be president. I’m thinking that would destroy the Demoncrat party.

        • I’m not saying that they’ve thought this through. I’m telling you what they’re saying they want to do.

          You think it will destroy the party but has it occurred to you that, having seized power in such a manner, they may not have any plans on continuing to hold elections? Or that they might go the way of Mexico and rig things to the point that no matter what happens they can’t lose for, oh, say 70 years?

          Caesar said he wanted to fix things as dictator and then return power to the people. He was assassinated so we never got to find out if he was telling the truth but history shows that after his assassination his intentions became irrelevant as power was never returned to the people (not that they ever really had much more than an illusion of power) because Rome slid into a series of dictatorships. There is no reason to believe that cannot happen to our Republic.

          Caution, as always, is the watchword because these people are powermad fools and God only knows what they’ll actually do or how it will play out. At best it’s mice, men, best intentions and all that.

        • If they try to impeach Trump, they will get a civil war as the entire DNC compliment of both the House and Senate wake up with severe cases of lead poisoning.

        • Serge has a point, that’s exactly why we have the Second Amendment.

          Also of significance, Nancy Polosi is 78 years old and will be dead soon.

        • All this talk of impeachment…recall they’ll need 2/3 of the Senate. Establishment GOP will vote with Dems on big spending. On falsely convicting a sitting GOP president? Much less likely I’m thinking.

        • Impeaching ‘Slick Willie’ did nothing.

          They didn’t have the Senate votes to convict him.

          It will be the same for Trump.

          If we lose the House in November, we had better immediately get the Senate to kill the filibuster and ram through everything we want with a simple majority.

          Like the way they rammed that shit-sandwich health care law down our throats with cloture.

          Wall funding. 50 state carry. Hearing protection. All of it.

          All of it. Before the new representatives are seated in January…

      • Sure. The ‘unlimited voter fraud’ that they apparently didn’t bother with in the last elections.

        Stop trying to imagine away failure.

        • Just because something has not happened recently doesn’t mean it won’t.

          I would also point out that with proper use of gerrymandering vote fraud becomes something that is either unnecessary or can be done at low enough levels that it’s hard to detect but still effective. This HAS happened before.

          Besides the Democrats have used voter fraud at lower electoral levels for a long time. Lots of groups have. It’s part and parcel of local and state machine politics and has been for at least 150 years.

        • GOV.WILLIAM J LE PETOMANE. I have to tell you sir , I have several cats , they are better behaved , have more decency and common sense than most every Dem I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. And the cats in question are no highbrid. Just common cats with common sense.

        • My mom told me once that dogs see us feeding them, cleaning up their poop, opening doors for them, etc and they think ‘you must be a god’, but cats see us feeding them, cleaning up their poop, opening doors, etc and think ‘I must be a god!’

          And yea, of course your average cat has more sense than your average Demoncrat. They would however vote Dem if they had a vote because they may be the most entitled critters God ever made.

    • Wait….. they are offering stormy daniels if you vote for them????
      Never mind…. who want a used up pornstar?

  2. Don’t play political chicken with the progressives, there’s no trick too low or immoral for them. STOP DARING THEM TO BAN S#!T! They’re gaining traction even in conservative places.

    • They have no interest in “understanding” anything.
      They are only interested in ideology, as in far left ideology; some even admitting they are communists. The others don’t yet realize what they are.

      Be Prepared !

    • Not really important, within a few years they intend for an “assault weapon” to include anything that goes “bang”, probably including firecrackers.

  3. From a “single function” of the trigger to merely a “single pull”.

    The groundwork for a Backdoor Ban on Semi-Auto Firearms and any trigger accessories is coming thru the proposed BATFE Bumpstock ban.

    This decision ” will not ” and “does not” limit itself to just “bump stocks” it completely redefines what is ” Readily Convertible into a machine gun “

    https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=ATF-2018-0002-0001

    go comment, only 77 days left

    • Bump stocks can not be classified as machineguns based on the current definition, or by the description given in the interpretation.

      the user is still ‘pulling’ the trigger, by pushing the rifle out against his static finger after recoil. It will not work without this active input from the user.

      • I suppose you know that Rollin White’s patent model for the bored-through cylinder included a box magazine AND a cylinder, making it a box-magazine-fed revolver. . . the box magazine fed cartridges into the cylinder, which rotated them into line with a single percussion n*pple and barrel.
        Oh. Apparently, n*pple is a dirty word that must be moderated. . . Sorry.
        No, really! April 3, 1855.

        • I’ve never heard of that. That’s a very neat design, I’ll have to look it up. Was it ever in mass production?

  4. But, but, they are constantly insisting they just want common sense gun control; that we are being paranoid when we say they want to actually take our guns away.

  5. The demtards certainly have traction in Illinois. With RINO help now…just talked to a friend in rural Kankakee. Invited me to go shooting at the NRA range in Bonfield. He has a FN FAL! Sounds fun…anyone have experience with one?!?

  6. This why we need to go out and vote for every republican who is running for office no matter how much we don’t want to……..I had hoped to be able to protest vote in the next few years, vote libertarian or some other party, but doing that, now, would just give democrats the power to destroy the 2nd Amendment. We need to vote Republican to keep them from taking the Senate…if they take the Senate they will block every single judicial nominee Trump puts out….that means no replacing ginsburg and kennedy, and no protection if Thomas retires….you may hate Trump, you may hate Repbulicans, I understand….but now is not the time to protest vote or to sit this out. If they manage to take the House, 5 minutes after the polls close they will impeach Trump…no doubt about it….then the democrats in the Senate will use the impeachment to steam roll Never Trump Republicans and squish republicans into not voting for Trump nominees and not letting the nominations out of committee…..Any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment…..we need to stop and block the blue wave they say is coming…..if we don’t, they will take all the guns…..

    • You know it’s not yet illegal to have an original thought or two every once in a while. Quit copying and pasting the same three paragraphs into every single post please. It’s annoying

        • Thing is, I doubt that more than a handful of new readers read past 2aguy anymore. I sometimes do if it looks like something that I haven’t seen him paste dozens of times before. Yesterday or so, I thought he had something thoughtful and different enough to read though. He is accomplishing nothing, as his right, when he pastes in the same thing he has for weeks or months.

      • I’m “cursed” with only having incumbents who have a good track record up for re-election this time. No point to primaries and not much of one in the general either. Not that that is going to stop me from going out and voting. (I go to a couple of the polling places frequently anyway. It only costs me the time of actually voting to vote).

  7. This Ashford fellow is a former one term Congressman whi’s never received more than 49% of the vote. He won 49% to the GOP incumbent Lee Terry’s 45.7% in 2014. Then he turned around and lost in 2016 with 47.7% to the GOP challenger, now incumbent, Don Bacon’s 48.9%. Trump wom Nebraska that year with 60.3%.

    Congressman Bacon has much more money onhand for this race, too, than Ashford. That should allow him to get the message out about Ashford being a Hillary-type gun grabber. It will be close, but I think Bacon will win.

  8. We People of the Gun always say when there’s a stabbing “ban knives!” I read the mayor of London is doing just that. He’s banning internet knife sales and deliveries and the possession of certain knives. Un-frickin-real.

  9. I look forward to the wailing and screeching should we get a repeat of the 1994 election blowout, and for the same reasons.

    Letting them jump vociferously all-in on the anti-gun platform is about the best thing that could happen.

  10. The murder of those kids in Florida was the best thing to ever happen for the democrats, and the happiest day of their politicians’ lives. They’re hoping for another mass murder to put them over the top.

    • The best thing to ever happen to the Democrats was having a Democrat president not veto the Republican passed Civil Rights Act. If it had been a Republican president, blacks would still block vote Republican. If blacks were to block vote Republican, Democrats would not have a chance of controlling the national debate.

  11. And thus did the Democrats destroy their chances at soundly drubbing the Republicans in the midterms.

    Idiots.

    • Nope. Just watch.

      Thing is, it’s a relatively small percentage of the electorate that gives a crap about guns, pro or anti. It’s not about votes, it’s about money.

      • I think it’s a small percentage who cares about guns and pays attention. I think there is a significant amount of voters who care but don’t pay attention until the Democrats actually get legislation through.

  12. “The true measure of how strongly ‘lawmakers’ believe in the necessity for enacting any written ‘law’, is whether or not they themselves would be willing to actually try and enforce it.” Anonymous

  13. Now that the desire for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment is out of the bag, we’ll see in November.

    Every candidate running against a Democrat should try to emphasize the repeal as part of the Dem’s platform.

    Although history is against it, it might turn out to be another November 2016 for the Dems (heres hoping for “groundhog day”).😀

  14. Wow. It’s all right there in Brad’s blather: the “policies” are fantasy, the “debate” is advocacy, n the “benefits” are about feelings.

    The game is to use this.

    Along with people persuaded by reason, facts, n outcomes, plenty of folks who vote or don’t are persuaded by who looks like a schmuck or an outcast. It’s no accident they went after McCain & Palin’s appearance, demeanor & persona. (That and easy targets. Come on R-people, what were you thinking? Oh, right.)

    One reason they hate The Orange Crush so is he’s indifferent to their smears. Another is he hits back the same way. Anotber is his constituency doesn’t care. They go bat-guano because only they are supposed to get to rabbit punch; to smear with Stewart’s “Clown nose on / clown noze off.” act, which is now a whole industry; to point and laugh.

    You wanna win? Pop their posturing.

    It’ll make them look dishonest … and peel off votes of the righteous. It’ll make them look dumb … and peel off votes of the conscientious. Best, it’ll make them look uncool, n peel off votes of the status-seekers.

    If you look like you’re having fun doing it, even better. But dispense with letting their embarrassing gaffes slids. Play to the cheap seats, who like nothing better than to see some ponce tripped up. If you’re *punching back* (“… twice as hared.” Ae a wise community organizer said.) you aren’t the bad guy. So, pick your moment so they have to show the first shot when they smear you for being mean.

    It’s not a debate or discussion. “… out ability to ever get there.” Like nationalized health care, they decided the outcome long ago. It’s just advocacy n other shenanigans. If they say “debate” call them on it.

    It’s not about policy. “The parkland thing, now I just feel invigorated.” That’s a poor basis for policy. What, we’re doing this so you can feel “invigorated?” How about we keep some kids alive? You wanna feel “invigorated”, there’s a whole internet for that. (BTW, drive to specifics. “Parkland thing?” If they use a vagueness, choose the meaning that works for you, n smack them. “Kids stepping up to protect their peeps? Would that the one who just got out of the hospital had bad better tools.)

    “I would vote for an assault weapons ban today.” So, people died because of your spinelesness before, or it’s posturing n appeasement now? Either way “leadership.” Careful where you step.

  15. (Satire Alert!)

    To all anti-gun crusaders,

    Please continue the course. Please continue to call for the repeal of the Second Amendment. The progress you are making will change our nation for the better. It will lead to safer streets, neighborhoods, and schools. The crime rate will plummet and the number of violent gun deaths will also decline. But you must keep up the important work you are doing.

    That way, we can completely remove you from the conversation because all of you and the DNC will be decimated in November. Please keep up your Socialist efforts. That way voters know exactly who to vote against. You will NOT prevail. The silent majority who are also gun owners in this country will remember what you stand for and we will be voting in hoards come November!

    Sincerely,

    All Second Amendment Voters!

  16. This whole ‘argument’ as to how to define an ‘assault weapon’ would be like trying to define what an assault vehicle is. Mentally disturbed people/terrorists have used trucks, vans, passenger vehicles to accomplish the same objective.

    I’m just growing tired of the senseless bickering going back and forth from extremely narrow minded people to justify their beliefs, no matter what the facts support.

  17. The Parkland thing, now I just feel reinvigorated, and I would vote for an assault weapons ban, today,” – Candidate for Congress Brad Ashford
    Never let a crisis go to waste.

  18. Complacency is the only thing that can kill The 2nd Amendment. We can not just sit on our hands and watch the liberals take our Constitutional rights one by one. We need to not only vote in every election, but we need to campaign, help put up signs, and whatever our pro 2A candidates need. I have seen this work with the motorcycle community for years. We help get OUR candidates elected, and they help us.

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