Governor Nikki Haley of South Carolina has said that she will sign the gun law reform, Bill 308. The law has been widely touted as a restaurant carry bill that removes state restrictions on people with concealed carry permits carrying their defensive firearms into establishments that serve alcohol. Second Amendment supporters have argued that they should be able to eat at the same restaurants as other citizens without discrimination by the government. The new law will prohibit legally armed citizens from consuming alcohol while in these establishments . . .
Restaurants owners will be able to discriminate if they chose to do so, either by placing a sign indicating that armed citizens aren’t welcome, or by asking individuals to leave their establishments.
When the South Carolina reform is signed, only one state will have a blanket prohibition on carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. According to opencarry.org, that state is Louisiana. Restaurant carry reform passed the Louisiana House 64-24 in 2013, but the bill didn’t make it through the legislative process. North Dakota passed restaurant carry reform in 2013.
South Carolina’s Bill 308 reforms other parts of the State’s gun laws as well.
The eight hour training requirement for a concealed carry permit is dropped, leaving a checklist of items that must be covered in the required instruction instead. Former military and retired law enforcement are exempted from some of the training.
Sheriffs are no longer required to submit a recommendation about an applicant’s fitness. If the applicant for the concealed carry permit passes the background check, South Carolina’s Law Enforcement Division (SLED) must issue the permit.
Among other improvements, applications for the permit will now be accepted online and the term of the permit is extended from four to five years. Fingerprints won’t be necessary for renewal applications. And restrictions on where in vehicles firearms may be transported have been removed for permit holders.
The law will take effect when the governor sign’s the bill into law.
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The sign should read…
“This is a gun free establishment”!
California can be won politically with support for pro-gun rights liberals, or judicially if the Supremes continue their work from Heller & McDonald…..
….but keep in mind that this is coming from a CA liberal who is normally to the left of Obama. Civilian disarmament is the only issue in which I disagree with President Obama without also disagreeing with the mainstream GOP line (maybe NSA spying if you think Paul and Cruz are GOP mainstream).
My oldest goes to private school. The other year they had a a fundraiser auction. When I came to pick up my son, the principal and some teachers were all examining a mosin-nagant that had been brought for the auction. I gave them some specifics. The principal then walked the gun upstairs through the school and joked “nobody better mess with my kids on my watch”. We’ll be keeping him in that school.
Gov. Nikki Haley is a possible candidate for US President. She would make a good one.
I’d vote for her.
She’s not there yet- but she’s a damn sight better than our last governor.
I’d really like to see the ‘printing=brandishing’ law vanish in SC.
I am interested if our reciprocity will increase seeing as how minimum time is eliminated and also how we are supposed to apply online when finger print cards are needed as of right now.
But this bill passed almost two weeks ago, sign the damn thing already.
While not my favorite republican governor, I’ll call this a win for SC and rest of us.
A quick look at the Nikki wiki indicates she is up for election in 2014.
Holy Crap! What is wrong with you mindless people who are disturbed by a gun picture?
Now wouldn’t it be beneficial to educate everybody about firearms? We do for drugs, self defense, bullying, etc .
Imagine the difference it would make by education rather than trying to hide behind a bunch of bureaucracy drummed up to attack our 200year old Constitution? Wake up! Our Constitution is what makes America a Great Nation. Don’t let self serving, politicians take it away.
In the case of being a pizza delivery person in a bad area, well, as many say, “I’d rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6….”
Just don’t take it into the store (where there is presumably no danger).
Probably safer to cook frozen cow parts for about the same wage anyway. Dunno, but I sure did it. And bet yer azz I kept lookin for better jobs until I finally ended up educated and an electrical/electronics/robotics friggin engineer. Where there is a will, there is a way.
I’m sick of hearing younger people whine about the job market. You just have to take what you can get until you can get what you want. Gut it the heck out!
Perhaps military service put that attitude in me, and taught me to never say die…perhaps boot camp should be a required High School Senior course required for graduation…
Ahhh The Peoples Socialist Republic of Massachusetts. Moved to TN from there 20 years ago…..such a sad, angry, pissed off little state. Only things I miss are good pizza, clam chowder, and the New England fall.
I like the video presentation. Jeremy could you email on which of the .380’s was the one with all the malfunctions that the range quit using. I might own it? And, I wouldn’t want to be in a situation where my life depended on it.
Framing the debate in terms of civil rights, without referring directly to Civil Rights. I like this approach. One day we’ll be singing WE SHALL OVERCOME. Maybe.
Only if you have the thought processes and reasoning ability of a mollusk. Sentient beings do not obsess on bad things that happened to others in the past. This clown needs counselling and therapy. Serious therapy.
“In her 22 years with Bremen Community High School District 228, she said, “I have no knowledge of guns ever being in this building.””
I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that in 22 years, there has never been a single police officer in this High School.
I know that Col. I used to work as a civilian under his command.
And the NRA did what in NY? Nothing. Stop giving them money and support the smaller and local level pro gun organizations. I bet WLP will make over $1million this year. That is fracked up.
From a local blog at the Newtown Patch site regarding this story:
“For all those who say we need to “protect the children”, you should be ashamed of yourselves for putting aside all logic in an effort to ease the pain of knowing our kids remain at terrible risk.
As the great philosopher Obi-wan Kenobi said, “Who’s the more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him?”
Parents, are we not fools for thinking these laws that have not worked elsewhere will make a difference in Connecticut? Would more or bigger or more prominently displayed “no guns” stickers have stopped Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Seung-Hui Cho, One. L. Goh, Michael Page, Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold?
Wake up parents, you are being used as tools to further the agenda of the permanent gun control lobby in this country. They play on your fears to pass ineffective gun laws that include nonsense like stickers and signs. “
More than enough to get him off if he were a cop. Lesson is if you want to shoot kids listening to music or fire wildly at fleeing vehicles and get away with it seek a job in law enforcement.
I like the guy’s kit. It’s a nice tac vest and a very nice AK. Too bad Mexicans can get cooler means to protect themselves than a large number of Americans.
How does any of this justify the use of SWAT-style teams?
Don’t know about the quality issues they might have had. I currently have a .357 blue pistol pack, a SS .357 6″ a blued .44 mag a .357 Maximum and a .22 with several barrels. They are all the most accurate of the revolvers I own with the fit and finish very nice on all. The pistol pack I had rebuled by a pro because the blueing bewteen the machined parts and the cast frame never match. The SS is still my carry gun in the woods being nice sized and accurate it goes with me on all my wilderness travel. The .44 is a bit worn as it was a silhouette pistol for years and received a lot of use. The .375 Maximum is the last purchase and its a great hunting pistol which I use from time to time. I reload so ammo is not a big issue.
Massachusetts, so, essentially, F-.
The restrictions that a gun owner eventually end ups operating under would be bad enough on their own, but what adds that special layer of suck is the sheer complexity of the zillion different Byzantine laws that eventually boil down to those restrictions.
Imagine a voting scheme where there were multiple different types of voter registration depending on what elections you wanted to vote in and what parties you wanted to be able to cast a vote for. Violate those laws, even accidentally? Lose your right to vote permanently. And if, through sheer stubborn persistence, you insist on registering to vote anyway, you still won’t get to vote for anyone running for national office.
That’s Massachusetts’ gun laws. Restrict any other civil right in this way and the ACLU would scream that the state was trying to discourage people from exercising that right. And you know what? They’d be absolutely right in this case, too.
So is there a recap of “the view?”
I love South Carolina and the fine looking and smart Honorable Nikki Haley……TYVM Gov