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Reps. Israel and Rangel Introduce Plastic Magazine Ban, Extended Plastic Gun Ban

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In the wake of Cody Wilson’s newly released and operational 3D printed firearm, gun control advocates are all aflutter. The idea that someone can print a gun at home without a background check is, as Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) puts it, “stomach-churning.” They can seem themselves losing control of the proliferation of firearms in the hands of citizens, and they’re striking back. Representatives Steve Israel and Charles Rangel (both D-NY) introduced a bill (H.R. 1474) that would expand the “Undetectable Firearms Act” (passed because of a movie, out of fear that Glock handguns could slip through security checkpoints), and add provisions that might put Magpul and other plastic magazine manufacturers out of business. Here are the main points of the proposed legislation . . .

  • This law is now expanded to include the RECEIVER ONLY of the firearm and not just the completed firearm. So while a printed AR-15 receiver was legal before (because the barrel is still metal and visible on x-ray machines) this new language would make them illegal and possibly put Frontier Armory’s polymer AR-15 lower in the “illegal” category.
  • Magazines that are not at least as visible as a stainless steel magazine on an x-ray would be illegal to produce by unlicensed manufacturers. I can’t decipher the legalese to figure out if this also applies to possession by unlicensed individuals, but that would mean the end of Magpul.

This act would restrict the availability of a number of products that are already on the market. Plastic magazines are WAY more popular than metal ones for the AR-15 platform. Which probably explains why they’re going after them — it’s a back door way of making the AR-15 less accessible. If people don’t have magazines, the guns are disturbingly difficult to shoot. Either way, this knee jerk reaction will probably die a quick death in the House, at which point the Democrats will again tear their clothes, wave the bloody shirt and claim that Republicans don’t care about the children.

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  1. The reasons for buying the mass produced Russian guns in the past have been reliability, low cost for the guns and the ammo, and less tangible is the fun factor with these guns.

    If this new rifle sticks to those parameters it will likely be a hit.

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  2. DNC panic attack in 5… 4… 3…

    Exactly how do they plan to enforce this? I can print magazines in my garage all day and they have no way of knowing.

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  3. List of other explosive materials or items that could potentially explode that should be “banned”, cold packs, artificial sweetener, aluminium, industrial drain cleaner, hydrogen peroxide etc etc. There are so many off the shelf, everyday use items at your local Walmart or hardware store that can potentially be made explosive, anyone who knows how to read can easily find the information and make one. This is just a backdoor attempt, at ammunition control.

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  4. Do they really think they’re scoring points that will redound to their benefit?

    Like Napoleon said: “Never interfere with an enemy when he is making a mistake.”

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  5. I think we need an unofficial national holiday just to illustrate the reality of the world and how silly this is. We can call it “Make a Gun Day”.

    Everyone on this particular day can fill congress’ inboxes with gun plans/drawings for simple home-made guns.

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  6. What about the Porclean Gun Ban? Or the Ban on guns that cost more than an airport police captain makes in a month?

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  7. I’m getting to the point that I want an explosive and final resolution to this situation so that the annoying nibbling assault will stop.

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  8. Dammit, I was just starting to see good plastic mags come back in stock across the board, at decent prices. I hope this has little chance of passing.

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  9. Why wouldn’t Magpul, supplier to the armed forces and law enforcement agencies of America, be considered a licensed manufacturer?

    Seems like this is squarely targeted at preventing someone from printing off an open-source 40-round AR mag using a privately owned 3D printer loaded with the right plastics. Not an injection-molding manufacturer who is already licensed 6 ways from Sunday. Just sayin’…

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    • Does Magpul currently need a license for anything they manufacture? If not, they’re probably not currently a “licensed manufacturer”.

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    • They are not an arms manufacturer, any more than is Hoppe’s.

      The intent is, among other intents, to add hoops.

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  10. My first thought on seeing that video is did Larry the Cable Guy get royalties for that thug target the woman was shooting.

    My wife and I are on the same page about guns. She wouldn’t live without one and neither would I. We’re at a point in our lives where we have financial freedom and gun purchases don’t cause her to bat an eye. We have one rule about spending, regardless of the product bought, if the purchase exceeds 1 thousand bucks give a heads up to your mate.

    An inside joke with us is I will go hit the gun shops, spot something I want and buy it. When i get home I start the conversation with her by saying, in a timid voice,”Honey, promise you won’t get mad….” at which point she lights up.

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  11. What impact, if any, will this legislation have on polymer framed guns?

    Could be another end around to outlaw most modern handguns which are mostly made of polymer, aka “plastic”.

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  12. We must DO SOMETHING…ANYTHING!!!! Here’s an idea: how about boosting state/federal economic development incentives and support for cutting edge hi-tech businesses that are revolutionizing manufacturing and who, by the way, stand the best chance of creating jobs. What a concept!!!

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  13. It is impossible for the government to “keep guns out of the wrong hands”.

    All they can ever accomplish is keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

    The NRA needs to make pointing that out a priority.

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  14. New Frontier’s phone lines are red hot and smoking, I’m thinking.
    I called them to see if they know about this bill and the recording says they are not taking any calls.

    And I just got my LW-15 based gun up and running….

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  15. That wait is NOT until someone decides to shoot up a school… the wait is for the most strategic time to unleash it. They already have their shooters, though most of the shooters don’t realize it themselves. It could be only the whisper of a key word to a mind-controlled minion. We haven’t been in Kansas for a long time. They’ve been running these ops since the SIXTIES. There’s plenty of research on it to be found online, without much difficulty.

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  16. I’m all for legal immigration. But i’ve seen a figure bandied about about the longterm cost of the reform that barry wants and its north of 6 trillion dollars. I think, just as with barrycare, that our favorite prez is not thinking thru the long term effects of his decisions.

    As for gun control coming back, it never went away. I’ve been at this since 68 and its always been here.

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  17. What’s up with the enormous bias in the opening post? If you’d compare the VS-121 to anything you’d probably have to look at DTA SRS. They look pretty similar except for some minor design differences. Other than that, Russian arms manufacturers are transitioning to a stock rail design, which is a good development.

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  18. The Federal government wants to compound its failure to fulfill its basica responsibilities by granting amnesty every two decades or so to the millions of illegals it allows to flood this country. After their failure to pass immigration reform, they will try to ram road more unconstitutional gun control legislation through the senate.

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  19. The scary stories are always about something plastic that won’t show up in an x ray, I don’t believe that is true, I think they are confusing xrays with metal detectors. The anti’s wouldn’t do that on purpose would they?

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  20. Looks like they are doing it wrong. A bull pup should be short, that ain’t, a sniper rifle should have a good trigger..bull pup not so much, bull pups are muzzle light..precision rifles need some weight out front. Every advantage a bull pup offers is not a feature of this rifle as far as I can see. Surprising they would produce this abortion.

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  21. For people who would use it as a stock, I’m not seeing how this would be much more advantageous to just the buffer tube. The contact point if you were going to ram it into your shoulder is only slightly bigger because the rest of the “stock” has been hollowed out for where the arm fits in the brace.

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  22. “They cannot contemplate possible mis-uses of the product, they can only evaluate it based on the designed usage. And should that product be mis-used by the consumers, they cannot take retroactive action based on that mis-use.”….
    Yeah, AT FIRST… The ATF can’t change their mind… You know, until they do. And would anybody here be surprised if they did?

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  23. “Unspoken: the gun grabbers are waiting for a spree killing. Count on it.”

    This is called conspiring…”to act in harmony toward a common end”

    Wake Up Sheeple, Conspiracies exist!!!

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  24. “In short, this wrist brace is here to stay.”

    Nick: Hope that this doesn’t become your version of RF’s “Obama isn’t coming for your guns” statement.

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  25. I kind of hope they do try to ban it, because it will bring public attention to the whole SBR thing, which is one if the stupidest feel-good laws on the books.

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  26. The NRA gotten their act together.

    #1 NO Compromise on gun rights

    #2 Recruit a mix of minority and women gun owners to get the word out.

    #3 Focus on getting the word out to minorities and inner city people that gun rights protect their freedom.

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  27. It’s definitely a start.

    Some day soon, a teacher is going to go to trial on charges of presenting “the facts of life,” e.g. self defense, in the same way they have for teaching anything sex related (before that was part of the curriculum) or Darminian evolution.

    “Ms. Smith was telling my little Katie filthy lies about how guns are good and peace is bad! Whatever shall I DO?!?”

    Or worse (actually better) for going armed without permission and stopping a bad guy with a gun.

    The gloves will then truly come off, as “it’s for the children” clashes with “it’s for the children.”

    Does NRA have the budget to back an A-list movie? No? What if we all give ten bucks to such a project?

    Get Clint Eastwood to produce a reasonable script… say this outline:

    Woman in Калифорния is a happy, anti-gun teacher. Teacher gets raped – or nearly. On the advice of a friend, she reluctantly tools up. Over time, she becomes less reluctant, then carries all the friggin’ time. Some time later, she stops cold an A.L. copycat two classrooms over before he’s done all that much damage. Arrest. Trial. Acquittal or minimum suspended sentence with nice speech by the judge. Goes back to teaching – maybe somewhere else. Roll credits.

    I’ll give a hundred. Who’s with me?

    And yes, I’m serious. A damned cult put out “What the BLEP do we know?” and it did great. Good film, too.

    This is definitely doable. Show of hands…?

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  28. It’s hilarious to see the anti-gunners going after Rob Pincus in his area of expertise. It’d be like me criticizing Tom Brady’s technique when throwing a football. Well almost…because I’ve actually held a football.

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  29. Great idea, Democrats! Arming soldiers in war-torn regions that despise the United States has never backfired on us before!

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  30. Don’t ever vote for a libtard (democrat) again. This is how you make sure these anti-gun (freedom) laws never appear again.

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  31. Bonus: with “true friends” like Israel, who needs enemies?

    Seriously RF, don’t make this blog about foreign policy, especially towards a state as nasty as Israel.

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  32. Oh that will really help stop mass whacks on the head with empty plastic magazines I mean really we were starting to have big problem with people sneaking empty magazines around next let’s ban cap guns and glue gun and nail guns and bb guns and airsoft guns and need guns and of course them DEADLY guns and them marshmallows blasters and rock and gum and anything that can be hid on a person or thrown. And people and animals and planets and cars and the sun because its messing up the ozone layer and building and air and water and food and trees and dirt and books and God and everything we can think of ALL RIGHT!!

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  33. I love Duracoat. I used one of their shake and spray kits, and it turned out awesome. I’ll definitely be buying a few of these spray kits. I can finally make my two tone pistols all black!!!!!!!!!! No more rust!!!!!!!!

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