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Quote of the Day: Where Peace Begins Edition

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“If you can handle a gun with dignity and respect for its power, it says a lot to your kid. When you go deeper, however, disturbing questions come to the surface about guns in the home and their violent purposes. Are you killing an animal because you are hungry and plan to eat it, or for sport, simply to watch it die? If you own guns at home, are you willing to tell your children that guns at home are likely to be used in suicides? (You probably won’t; I doubt I would have the courage to say that.) When you feel rage, what do your kids see? When you say you need a gun for protection, what do your kids learn from that? When you say no to gun toys and violent play, do your kids understand why?” – Lee Schneider in What Fathers Can Tell Their Children About Guns [via huffingtonpost.com]

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  1. Lets make firearms and ammo completely illegal in The USA. Then ATF will supply them to us. It worked for Mexico didn’t it?

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  2. In my experience a father starts by telling about gun safety, then demonstrating. Rinse and repeat.

    This guy can start by STFU and writing about something he has a clue about.

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    • That’s all they have.

      “When you say you need a gun for protection, what do your kids learn from that? When you say no to gun toys and violent play, do your kids understand why?” – Lee Schneider “

      Says that in America you are responsible for yourself, not the government. and that Lee Schneider needs to buy a pair

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  3. -Ducks, Dove, and Deer are very tasty, and hard to find at the store.
    -Guns in a happy home aren’t likely used in suicides.
    -It is pretty easy not to argue with fits of rage in front of others. My parents hid it really well. (Although rage is an exaggeration of their arguments)
    -Protection with firearms is necessary in some areas, don’t teach your kids that the world is 100% safe. Also teach them to be defensive drivers.
    -Nope, my kids can play with toy guns, I don’t see it being a problem at all. (What is your definitions of “violent play”, Football?)

    Most important, LOVE your wife and kids, and don’t take a back seat to parenting.

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    • Maybe not for you.

      Same pattern yet again: since *I* am afraid of what I might do / can’t control myself in front of my kids / have personal issues with how I was raised / etc., clearly *everybody else* does too and therefore *nobody* should have guns.

      As I was reading the piece, I was thinking more about what the questions were saying about him than anything else.

      Sigh. Some people shouldn’t be allowed to buy power tools, either.

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  4. And the push for the overall pussification of America continues. None of those are tough conversations. My Dad talked at length to me about his guns when I was a kid, I always understood what they were for and what they could do. I guess being a man and a helluva father about how you handle talking to your kids is just out of the question here?

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  5. As usual, the progressive drive-by comments illustrate no depth. It does however elicit initial negative thoughts concerning guns and THAT is what the ‘article’s’ main intent is.

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  6. All of these Hoplophobic people that get so worked up about guns that they wet themselves make me sick. They think since they are not Responsible enough to own them and teach gun safety then there is no way somebody they see as Inferior to them could do the same thing.

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  7. If you own guns at home, are you willing to tell your children that guns at home are likely to be used in suicides?

    If that’s true, wouldn’t the number of gun owners be decreasing instead of increasing? (And if you’re telling your kids this, you’d better warn them about sleeping pills, rope, plastic bags, and automobiles, too.)

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  8. I have friends that are cops and ex-cops. One of the many tips they’ve given me is that if you are being interrogated by the police (tho, I’ve never actually been in this position myself) is to answer “I don’t know”. It isn’t a denial of something they think you did exactly buy it stops the interragator cold because there is no place for him to go with more questions.
    I watched the “Holder Grilling” on CSPAN yesterday. I lost count of how many times he said in essence “I don’t know” but that was essentially his answer for every hard question.

    Get in touch with your representatives and express outrage at his obfuscation of truth and denial of responsibility and encourage them to keep after him. He needs to GO.

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  9. I guess Bloomberg got tired of spending his own money so he took a page out of Obamasamas book and taking it from “US”.

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  10.  “Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?” – Bender.

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  11. It was inevitable. Just think of the kind of person it takes to run for the highest office in the nation. You have to be willing to lie, cheat, and deceive in order to get as many people as possible to vote for you, regardless of what your true opinions on any particular subject are. By design, you have to be cagey, and you have to be willing to put someone under the bus if political expediency demands it.

    These individuals are extreme narcissists, and most of the successful ones are probably borderline/bonafide sociopaths. The very worst insult to a narcissist is to embarrass them. A man who believes himself to be omnipotent does not like to be reminded that there are limits to his imaginary power. We bruised their ego deep on this one. They will use whatever technique they have to to get their revenge on us.

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  12. Here’s the honest chain of events.

    “Hey,wanna check out my Glock?Its this supercool brick of a pistol.If you look-BANG….”

    Its like a case I read last year of an Olive Garden customer whose Sig P226 accidentally shot the toilet when it fell.According to the investigation he had the gun for 4 hours-draw your own conclusion on what REALLY happened.

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  13. I keep hearing the guns in my safe have arguments with each other. I bang on the door and tell them to knock it off, but I know one day I’m gonna get there too late. I’m just waiting for the day when I come home and find they’ve shot each other.

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  14. Guns are not cool? The hell they aren’t. Guns are so cool there’s hardly anything cooler.

    Imagine there were no guns. (Bear with me.) They had never been invented. Then, somebody like Steve Jobs or Dean Kaman comes along and invents a device you can hold in you hand. You drop these little cartridges in it, pull a lever and a tiny explosion occurs inside it. It propels a cylinder of metal faster than the speed of sound to something hundreds of yard away and punches a hole in it. Everybody would want one. Everybody would say “OH MAN, that is so freackin’ cool I gotta get me on o’ those!!” You think iPhone rollouts are popular? When these things go on sale, they’ll be lined up around the block three times.

    Guns are cool. Guns are fun. Everybody wants one.

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  15. The weapon didn’t fire. The unnamed security officer fired the weapon. Journalists are so bad at hiding biases.

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  16. I’m no more likely to talk to my daughter about using a gun for suicide than I am about OD’ing on her migraine medication or slitting her wrists with her razor or the ten inch chef’s knife she uses to chop onions. I would talk to her about suicide specifically – not necessarily the tool – if I felt circumstances warranted a discussion.

    A gun for protection? My kid learns that the world is not all sunshine and rainbows. There are bad people out there; hell there’s bad air out there. She learns that you can’t avoid life, you can only do what is in your means to be prepared for it. I try to protect her from the evils of the world, but by no means do I shield her from awareness of their existence.

    When I’m angry she sees my ears get red, my voice get louder and higher pitched and I pace. She never sees violence as a result of something pissing me off. She sees emotion, because ya know, people have those things.

    I don’t say no to toy guns and violent play. Why would I? Would I rather it be pent up and become real violence because I refuse to allow her freedom in her imagination?

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  17. Weapons ban….. Necessity is the mother of invention…. Who else saw this coming? Variation models that will start coming out soon will be cool. Add to this graphene becoming easier to make in the lab we should see some neat stuff coming out of amature labs/work shops.

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  18. Without soldiers, their could be no wars.

    It wouldn’t matter how vile any particular legislation is to liberty if there were no people to enforce those laws.

    LEO’s of the world… DISOBEY! Then we can all be free.

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  19. Everybody knows that guns HATE to be caged up and will aggressively react to the threat of confinement. Personally, I have a lot of difficulty wrangling my compact M&P into its gun safe. I can only imagine what it would be like to try to cage up a large, mean S&W Model 629.

    Here’s a tip — keep the gun in its holster. Covering up the gun renders it virtually sightless, allowing you to sneak up on it so you can put it away with getting shot.

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  20. “are you willing to tell your children that guns at home are likely to be used in suicides?”
    — If discussing suicide, it would be more realistic to say that even without access to guns, the Japanese still have a far higher rate of suicide than Americans.

    Enough of this nonsense. Just look at this guy’s face. It’s soft and weak, and just like other progressive mangina’s that have been pictured on this site previously they all look unlike men. I think he needs to be tested for having too much estrogen in his system.

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  21. Scenario #1
    Spoiled helpless suburbanite totally loses her sh*t when she sees a snake on the patio, and calls an exterminator to kill and remove it. Public outrage: zero.

    Scenario #2
    Different homeowner sees the same snake on the same patio, and saves $75 by doing the exterminating DIY-style. This guy is immediately branded a barbarian, sadist, and wife-beater.

    Just like anti-hunters who love their pan-seared tilapia, they’re not sadistic wife beaters because they *pay* others to do the killing for them. Spoiled elitist scum.

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  22. from the CNN link:
    “Police accidentally fired on an unoccupied black SUV during the mayhem”

    — It’s Boston LE racism I tell ya! Racism!

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  23. Fast and Furious in it’s own right should have been enough to expose this president and his administration as the pig communists they are. Unbelievable how teflon coated they’ve been. My sincere prayer is that Mrs. Terry and her son are vindicated and true justice is served.

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  24. Tip strength vs. stabbiness is a personal thing, as is edge geometry, blade thickness, etc. I like them thin, sharp, and pokey myself, but I’m what some call a ‘darksider’ when it comes to these things (not my term, and I’m not sure of the relevance). There is absolutely no distinction between a side folder and an out-the-front auto, I can tell you that with relative certainty (there could be some crazy state law I’m not aware of). And as for speed, nothing beats a fixed blade with a well thought-out sheath system, but second place goes to a manual folder with an effective ‘wave’ opener.

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