Quote of the Day: Thug Life = Gun Life. Who Knew?

“In male youths involved in the criminal justice system, the relationship between psychological distress and gun carrying seems to be influenced by exposure to violence (either experiencing or witnessing it).” – Joan A. Reid, PhD; Tara N. Richards, PhD; Thomas A. Loughran, PhD; Edward P. Mulvey, PhD in The Relationships Among Exposure to Violence, Psychological Distress, and Gun Carrying Among Male Adolescents Found Guilty of Serious Legal Offenses: A Longitudinal Cohort Study [via annals.org]


  1. avatar No one of consequence says:

    Hang out with criminals and you will likely eventually be a victim or a suspect. That’s upsetting, so some people carry a gun to help with the stress.

    Or did I mis-translate?

    And what happened to that poor pistol on the left? At least the holder has some trigger discipline, though. That has to count for something. I guess.

    1. avatar Mike Betts says:

      Well done, NOOC. As near as I can tell, I think you translated this from Gobbledygook to reasonably comprehensible English. Not only that, but a bit of intellectual curiosity sent me scrambling to find out what a “Longitudinal Cohort Study” is, a phrase I’ve never seen before and am rather unlikely ever to see again.

    2. avatar ActionPhysicalMan says:

      The one on the left probably gets used as a hammer and door knocker.

      1. avatar Bob Valdez says:

        Looks like a Gluck brand Glock with the new distressed finish. He be’s styleing. ?

      2. avatar bLoving says:

        The pistol is clearly a Hi-point, ‘natch.
        Can’t tell if the revolver is a stolen Smith model 19 or a stolen Taurus

  2. avatar Ollie says:

    It’s too bad Obama spent so much time beatifying thugs and praising Thuglife.
    He should have set a productive example instead.
    The horrendous harvest we shell reap because of that incompetent is just getting started.

  3. avatar jwm says:

    That’s the picture that jumps to her mind when hillary hears the phrase “law abiding gun owner”.

    1. avatar Chadwick says:

      Nah… There’s no white guy with a bible in the shot. I’m sure said white guy would be wearing a klan style white sheet too. Well, maybe not the sheet because Klinton has been around the klan enough to know they aren’t a threat to her.

    2. avatar Ranger Rick says:

      “That’s racist”. ?

  4. avatar No one of consequence says:

    I also found it interesting that, according to the link, the primary funding source is “none.”

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      footnote “Other than federal taxpayer”

      Gime another $100k

  5. avatar rc says:

    Man, that is one ugly gun on the left.

    1. avatar Omer Baker says:

      The first thing that gun make me think of is a story an instructor told. He was getting berated about carrying a Glock by a high dollar 1911 carrying instructor and so he pulls his gun out, at the range, and who’s it down towards the targets, then tells his coworker “Your turn.” The guy dropped his head, turned around and walked away.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        “..and who’s it down towards the targets”

        …and throws it down towards the targets?

        1. avatar Swarf says:

          He what’s it now?

      2. avatar Ad Astra says:

        Aside from showing that glockies don’t respect their piece what does that prove?

  6. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    It took all those PhD’s to figure out bad guys like guns.
    Huh, I’m gonna start using PhD after my name.

    1. avatar Mike Betts says:

      PhD – Piled Higher and Deeper

    2. avatar Owen says:

      Just put: Tom in Oregon, PhD ABD

      ABD (All But Done) -Means you’ve been schooled just not officially papered. People actually use it on their credentials. Ran into a school psychologist who did this is how I found out. LOL

      1. avatar CarlosT says:

        Actually, it’s All But Dissertation. All the course work is done, but the dissertation hasn’t been completed and defended. Since dissertations are small to medium books, it’s actually a huge portion of the process of earning the PhD.

      2. avatar Adub says:

        ABD means All But Dissertation.

        But I’m sure you knew that.

      3. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

        ABD is a legitimate designation. The dissertation must still be competed and publicly defended before a committee, but all of the coursework and comprehensive exams have been passed.

        Where you see ABD indicated is usually in job seekers applying for academic positions, but it’s also used informally among peers just to give an indication if where you are in the program. You cannot remain an ABD indefinitely, however, as every school has a maximum number of years within which to earn a degree. For a Ph.D., it varies, but a maximum allowable of ten total years is not uncommon.

        What you want to watch out for are people who in conversation, their bio, or on a resume mention that they “did graduate work at…” such and such university. That casual phrasing can be innocuous, meaning just that’s where they earned their graduate degree. Alternatively, it can mean they held a postdoctoral fellowship at the school.

        Or, it can conceal the fact that they took some coursework there (perhaps a single class!), but either dropped out or flunked out without earning a degree. The loose phrasing can invite the reader/listener to assume the person graduated with a degree. So if it really matters, then you should really verify.

    3. avatar Chadwick says:

      An esquire might help too. Oh PHD and attorney in bird law.

  7. avatar jwm says:

    For all you semi auto fanboys out there. Which would you rather face on the street? Man on left or on right?

    Which of those 2 weapons would you bet on malfunctioning?

    1. avatar The Gray Poseur says:


    2. avatar Cliff H says:

      Betting that any particular firearm pointed in my direction will malfunction seems like a very bad idea. The biggest POS pistol on the market can still ruin your day if this is the time it actually works as intended.

      1. avatar barnbwt says:

        That ain’t working, that’s the way you do it,
        Get the gun violence reaearch grant, from the MIT…

        1. avatar Ralph says:

          They got their money for nothin’

    3. avatar Hannibal says:

      lol… what?

      is that the best you got for trolling? It’s early.

      1. avatar Ironhead says:

        He’s changed the words to an old dire straits song.

    4. avatar samuraichatter says:

      I will take your attempted thread hijack and raise you one more.

      Are you sure either one is a “Man”? Could be chicks. Just sayin 🙂

      1. avatar TStew says:

        Oh, yeah? I’ll call your raise it…
        That is a hate filled comment! None of us could possibly know how either individual gender identifies! Your thinking is sooooooooo 2003. Perhaps they identify as a zhe? Get with the times. Sheesh… 🙂

        1. avatar No one of consequence says:

          That would be “Zeesh” thankyouverymuch.

    5. avatar binder says:

      jwm, the revolver will not even fire once if the cylinder is jammed up, the semi on the other hand will likely go bang at least once. (Want to take any bets on my semi jamming?)

    6. avatar strych9 says:

      This reminds me. I’ve decided on my next gun. Goin’ ghetto with a Cobra .380 so I can call myself the “Cobra Commander”.

      Here’s a cool thing about a ghetto blaster: Your backup is a tube sock. If the gun fails, you put it in a sock and beat the fuck out of your victim with it.

      That’s how I know the guy on the left is the BAMF of the two.

    7. avatar AK says:

      I don’t know, I wouldn’t want people saying a Hi-point got me, but then again at least it’s american

  8. avatar Stinkeye says:

    So, guys who are at high risk of violence by their peers are likely to try to mitigate that risk by carrying a gun?

    Seriously, it took four PhD’s to figure that out?

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Technically it took four to *prove* it statistically, but yeah. A lot of academia consists of proving obvious, or even self-evident. The better question, is whether carrying a gun actually mitigated the risk of criminal behavior (from an objective, not moral, standpoint). Being resonably intelligent young men aware of threats, I suspect it does.

      I’ll take that Genius Grant, now.

      This story did remind me greatly of the hop-head Yale doctor character from Red Dead Redemption, who was amazed to discover natives have the same blood as whites at the microscopic level. “For a Wise Man, you are a *very* stupid man” –Nastaz

  9. avatar Lyle says:

    Maybe these “thugs” just live by the creed, “Shoot or get shot. Kill or be killed.”, or is that too simplistic for these so-called Academics.

  10. avatar rt66paul says:

    With”stop and frisk” and so many other reasons to get stopped in a thug’s life, I am pretty sure he carries only when he is ready “to do the deed”, or maybe when he knows someone is out to shoot him.
    Many of these gangs have guns that come out only then. Sooner or later, every gang member on the street is going to be “hassled by the man”. Carrying a gun every day in the inner city is a good way to get sent up river.

    1. avatar Justin says:

      Unfortunately it also appears that a lot of the court systems are practicing catch and release or dropping the firearms charges all together in hopes for a plea plea bargain.

      1. avatar neiowa says:

        Can’t “discriminate” against thugs. It’s clearly discrimination against criminalsm to only send criminals to prison.

  11. avatar Soylent Green says:

    Ban thugs? Require background checks to own a thug? Ban assault thugs?

  12. avatar former water walker says:

    Thugs like guns. Epic conclusion…give ’em an award?!

  13. avatar TyrannyOfEvilMen says:

    Wow… For such a rambling and meaningless statement, there are a lot of PhD’s associated with it.

    As Dire Straits sang it, that seems pretty much like “Money for Nothing”.

    Maybe I should’ve been a Sociology major.

    Look at them quotes.
    That’s how ya do it!
    Spewing nonsense with a PhD!

    Swag that sheepskin!
    That’s how ya do it!
    Get your silly quotes published
    … and your street-cred for free!

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      I hope Dire Straits sues you and may God have mercy on your soul.

  14. avatar revolv38 says:

    Reminds me of a guy I worked with who wrote his master’s thesis on “Why does a large percentage of African-Americans not know how to swim?” His conclusion after spending all the federal funding on his “research?” “Their parents didn’t teach them.” I kid you not.

    1. avatar Charles says:

      Degrees generally mean, “I take tests more gooder.” When you add a PHD it means you plagiarize more gooder or state the obvious creatively.

      People who flaunt the PHD’s around me soon want to go thug…

  15. avatar Five says:

    “the relationship between psychological distress and gun carrying seems to be influenced by exposure to violence (either experiencing or witnessing it).” – winner of the ‘No Shit Sherlock’ award.

  16. avatar strych9 says:


  17. avatar Jeff the Griz says:

    I wouldn’t have taken that photo. Too many safety violations.

  18. avatar ActionPhysicalMan says:

    Is it odd to not want pictures taken of oneself holding a gun. I don’t think I have allowed since I was an ROTC cadet in the ’80s.

  19. avatar Soylent Green says:

    Wait…I think I got it.

    Thugs commit crime.
    Thugs use guns to commit crime.
    Guns need hands to hold them.
    Thugs have hands.
    Ergo…if thugs had no hands, there’d be no crime!!!

    Eureka!!! Its so obvious…ban hands!!! Mr and Mrs America…turn in your hands!!

  20. avatar PROUD chicano says:

    Who can identify both guns in the picture?

    1. avatar ActionPhysicalMan says:

      Daryl Zero, Jack Reacher, and Robert Goren for sure.

  21. avatar GS650G says:

    The gun on the left looks like a cheap BB gun.

  22. avatar Ironhead says:

    And this was written by Captain Obvious phd???
    Wow…. they actually got a grant to do research on this…. I could have told you that for free.

  23. avatar Defens says:

    You can distill the results of their study even more:

    The possibility of violence – whether experienced directly or by direct or indirect observation – is the primary reason that ALMOST ANYONE carries a gun (other than hunting or plinking). Why do legal concealed carriers go through the effort – training, permits, changes in apparel, discomfort – of carrying? Because of the threat of violence. If I lived in Magical Unicorn Land, where there was no chance of anything untoward happening to me or my loved ones, why would I bother carrying?

    It’s pretty easy to complete an expensive study when the conclusions are preordained.

  24. avatar anonymoose says:

    I didn’t choose the thug life. The thug life chose me.

  25. avatar Chris T from KY says:

    It is always impressive to see the results of the higher educated who built public housing projects. They told single mothers they could live there for “free.”
    But the catch was the women could not have a man in the home for any reason. They also could not have any firearms.
    But they would get lots of welfare and a big variety of “free stuff.”

    It seems some white people would perfer the government intervention in single mothers lives, instead of a loving committed black man.
    But the higher educated do support two parent homosexual marriage.

  26. avatar Adam says:

    Not surprising. If a cop catches them with a gun they might go to jail for a week before getting released for “good behavior”. If an opposing gang member catches them without a gun they’ll probably end up dead. Which option do you think they are going to pick?

  27. avatar Joe R. says:

    How many races / cultures in the U.S. do we have that do phantasy level adoration of POS? Why are they mostly (and mostly vote) evil (D)?

    F ’em all, and all those breeding this stupid.

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