“Gun manufacturing increased dramatically between 2007 and 2011, from 3.7 million weapons to 6.1 million being produced. You have to wonder if owning guns, for those who still do, is a bit like buying cell phones. Once you’re hooked, only the newest killer version will do, prompting more frequent purchases.” – Mary Sanchez in Gun lobby defends not the Constitution but a cynical business model [via chicagotribune.com]
ENGLISH, lunch lady…DO YOU SPEAK IT?
She is correct. How many of you own just one firearm of one caliber? Hell, I own multiple 9mms. A friend of mine has multiple ARs, multiple 9mms (and wants more and the “latest and greatest”) and many shotguns (which again is the latest and greatest). So, grow a spine and do not be insulted.
Speak for yourself…
And your comment insults me big time!
How many screwdrivers do you own? How many pairs of pliers? How many computers including desktops, laptops, and tablets for different uses and environments?
It’s not even close to something unique to guns and anyone who takes a moment to consider it and *isn’t* trying to obfuscate propaganda can come to the same conclusion.
Actually, I think new stuff sucks, personally. If you want to be a sucker for the latest and greatest, by all means. I’ll stick to my pre-war and post war series Colts and other classics, thank you.
My older “classics” greatly outnumber my newer types. I like my older S&W, Firestar, Radon, etc.
Shawn,
Stop projecting yourself onto others. I own four guns. One is a 22 cal Buckmark Camper pistol and I am soon going to buy a 22 bolt-action rifle. My other three guns are a lever-action carbine 357/38 for outdoor defense and survival hunting, a 4″ barrel 357/38 DA/SA revolver for home defense and hiking in mountain lion country, and a 357/38 snubbie revolver for concealed carry.
While the proven calibers I choose overlap because they are practical and have multiple uses there is little to no overlap in the types of guns I own in relation to the types of use they were made for. So grow a pair and stop being a white knight or whatever it is you are doing.
BTW, during the current ammo drought I have always been able to easily find 38 and 357 while many other calibers were non-existent.
I said no f@$king vegetables.
“… only the newest killer version will do…”
Yea which is exactly why I went from buying my semi-auto AR with several standard capacity magazines to a bolt action 1926 Mosin with a fixed 5 round magazine. What a dumb@&&. Frankly, I havnt shot the Mosin yet but I like it better.
You really need to go watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oapv0tEq1kc
Which video, btw, kinda proves her point. In this case, though, I have to say “Not that there’s anything wrong with that” (because there isn’t!).
And what is her point? Its not like video games or cell phones where you are out of date without the latest. Collecting has niches, not everyone has the same preferences. 1911 fanboys may shun Glock fanboys and vica versa, HK may shun us as a whole but for the most part we all get along and accept eachother. Have you ever walked in to an Apple store with an Android!?
“If anyone’s getting euthanized It’s you, sister!”
No, it’s more like collecting cars, for those who can afford to do that. Or for that matter, model cars. Or dolls. Or anything else someone might assemble a collection of.
When you buy the latest killer cell phone, you replace the one you have. Most people who buy multiple guns aren’t doing any replacing, they’re adding something different to their collection. Even if they’re all ARs in 5.56, you’ve got the SBR, the SPR, the M16 clone, the M4gery, the home defense setup, etc. That variety just increases when you add more calibers and platforms.
I wonder what Dr. Freud would have said about people who have an innate hatred of firearms?
“Hello, my names is CJ and I am a gun addict” God, give me grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed…………………
Grant me the serenity to accept the ammo I cannot find,
The cash to buy the ammo I can,
And the wisdom to know when an order is coming in.
There may be some collectors who keep buying the newest model of something nearly identical to what they have, but there’s a significant difference between cell phones and firearms. There are far more different types of firearms, as opposed to brands and models, and they’re suited to different purposes.
A sport shooter might own:
– A .22 pistol for target shooting
– And over/under shotgun for skeet
– A pump shotgun, AR, and semi-auto pistol for 3-gun competitions
For defensive use one might have:
– A compact pistol for concealed carry
– A full-sized handgun for open carry
– A holdout pistol
– A pump and/or AR for home defense
A hunter might have:
-A shotgun of some kind
-A high-powered rifle
-A rimfire rifle
– A large caliber handgun
Now, granted there’s some overlap in there, but it’s still trivial to accumulate more than half a dozen firearms before you have any significant overlap in their purpose. I don’t think the same thing applies to cell phones.
Look, I dig Latinas but this woman is quite unattractive.
Don’t think she’s cute? Not even in a shrunken-head-dangling-from-a-rearview kind of way?
Yes, honey–a few of us still do.
I was trying to determine if she’s pro/anti until I got to “newest killer version”. I’m not sure exactly what that means, but it sounds like “anti” terminology.
After reading bits of the article, I think it’s sort of anti-gun, but I’m not sure. The title is “Gun lobby defends not the Constitution but a cynical business model”. That may be partly true; it won’t stop me from buying more guns, but I guess every business wants to increase sales and be more profitable.
However, I though everyone is skeptical of lobbyists. I’m not worried about anti-gun folk hating gun lobbyists as much as I’m worried about them not understanding the principles and facts of gun ownership/use.
It’s possible there are many who know of Matthew Bracken, who is the author of the “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” trilogy, the third book of which is “Foreign Enemies and Traitors“.
“Democide is the elimination of a despised group by a government. It includes genocide, politicide, and other forms of state-sponsored mass murder.”
Read an uncomfortably perceptive article by Matthew, and also be sure to watch the powerful short video lower down the same page. Pass it on – it deserves a wide audience, to at the very least, make people sit up and take notice. “Wake-up call”? You decide: http://www.JPFO.org
Refer to the “Sandy Hook Index” for an archive collection of material we have shown since the tragic events at the Newtown Elementary School. Much is directly resulting from the event but also there are items simply clarifying various aspects of the “gun control” issue which has been such a hot button topic again.
About:
Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership Mission is to destroy “gun control” and to encourage Americans to understand and defend all of the Bill of Rights for everyone. Those are the twin goals of Wisconsin-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO). Founded by Jews and initially aimed at educating the Jewish community about the historical evils that Jews have suffered when they have been disarmed, JPFO has always welcomed persons of all religious beliefs who share a common goal of opposing and reversing victim disarmament policies while advancing liberty for all.
JPFO is a non-profit tax-exempt educational civil rights organization, not a lobby. JPFO’s products and programs reach out to as many segments of the American people as possible, using bold tactics without compromise on fundamental principles. Visit http://www.JPFO.org – Copyright JPFO 2011
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/democide-socialism-tyranny-guns-and-freedom/#ixzz2LjWLerKL
WTF? How come this post does not have a link to some hot supermodel to offset the above picture?
How many people have just one gun? This is a sport/hobby and if you enjoy various competition level aspects, you have different equipment for different types of events.
I have friends with 6 ARs and can tell me the difference and reason for each one.
I have yet anyone complain about how many shoes, handbags, clothing, make-up and accessories women have and my gf spends whole bunch each month on hair cuts and hair products.
I do not understand the point of her post.
I was hoping somebody got to meet 72 virgins in that video. No such luck.
Was that I Hind? I was seriously hoping to see it turn in and tear these guys to peices.
I guess these guys didn’t the memo…
http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/01/afghanistan-declared-gun-free-zone/
Scary but a fact of life over there. Cant wait until we move on to somewhere else. Here is a clue…. If you cant win a war in under 10 years….. you’ve lost! Declare victory anyhow and lets get our guys back home with their families.
The Chicago Tribune? Here’s an idea:can we enact a new law here on TTAG banning articles on assault newspapers?
Because the Founders never intended the 1st Amendment to safeguard state-supported yellow journalism. Lets make some common-sense policy right here on TTAG: no more posts from newspapers which are an assault on common sense and reason.
I am all for the states stepping up. Take a stand and show you have a pair. Once the dust settles I will pick where I want to live based on the amount of freedoms they offer to the 2A. Like my other brothers in the military who are getting close to retirement from the armed forces…. This is a drastically different country now than when we signed up and the actions from a few wreck it for all the law abiding people. I am tired of being almost stripped searched at the airport and made a criminal overnight based on politicians who sign bills without even reading them. All these knee jerk politicians need to be voted out next time around.
Alright, so unfortunately there have been so many gun laws being passed on both sides of the fence, that my head is literally spinning in a mix of state laws and battle lines.
Can we get a “Status Update” on the current forms and affairs of gun laws passed since Sandy Hook? As a gun owner I take great pride in knowing most gun laws, but I certainly do not have a full understanding of all of the new ones. I’m familiar with SAFE, and I’m tracking CO’s ridiculousness, now this. Off the top of my head I recall new laws for CT, NJ, CA, MN, NY, CO, MD, but I know there are more on the agenda.
So how about a “State of the Gun” post with the following info
Who has passed new Gun Control Laws, and what is the brief summary?
Who has new Gun Control Laws in progress, what is their summary?
Who has passed new Gun Rights Laws, and what is the summary?
Who has new Gun Rights Laws on the books, and what is the summery?
Because the way I see it, battle lines are being drawn. At this point, any state pushing gun control laws through are doing it so hastily that no one fully understands all of them, and these states are best to stay away from until the SCOTUS weighs in.
That is not Afghanistan, most likely Mali or Syria if I had to guess. The men are Arabs and are speaking Arabic, wearing pretty identifiable combatant attire. This is not the way the Taliban operates. The Afghan Air Force does have white MI17s, but the rest of the video screams middle east or north africa and Arabic insurgents in a combat zone where American ISR assets are not prevalent.
Nice Pink Floyd reference in the title.
I said…where is my pop-tart?
Thank you Mr. Todd. Glad to see that you are getting the message out, even if the MSM will try it’s best to prevent same.
Her comments strike me as just so much throwing the dart at the wall, then drawing a bulls eye around it. If you have some preconceived notion about a group of people, then it’s simple to arrange your interpretations in further support of that position. It’s a natural, and perhaps not always an altogether unuseful, human conceit in that the mind tends to work to reinforce decisions already made and conclusions already drawn.
Nevertheless, intelligent assessments ultimately require objectivity, or at least as much of it as we humans can humanly muster. It’s why we excuse jurors and judges recuse themselves when they have personal relationships or experiences directly related to a court case. It’s why researchers employ double blind experiment design and placebos. It’s why parents (the wiser ones, anyway) send their kids to camp to learn to swim, to NRA Instructors to learn to shoot, and to drivers education to learn to drive. Sometimes such 3rd party instruction is legally mandated.
If this woman would set aside her prejudices, she could then begin to absorb the richness and rigor that are the defining dimensions of the vast and varied gun culture. Maybe then she could follow the facts where they lead and arrive at more sound assessments of gun matters and their owners’ motives.
“Because I can, M***********.”
Actually, no. It’s because it’s your God-given right. It has nothing to do with your abilities, or lack thereof.
I see they are taking liberty with numbers just like everyone else.
To quote the video “31,000 people die from GUN VIOLENCE every year”
No, get the facts straight, not all gun deaths are from violent acts. Less than HALF that number are homicides, which I would consider the only violent utilization of a gun. Accident & suicides don’t count in my book.
A defensive gun use – especially examples where the perpetrator is detained by a private citizen where shots were not fired – are not sensational enough to be news worthily. Anyway, the defensive gun uses that did involve a weapons discharge (such as in Oklahoma and Georgia) were not necessarily given “front page” exposure. The media has forgotten about the basic principles of journalism (Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How) a long time ago, and has degenerated into advertising for the current political elite.
I just sent them all an email!
Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker’s man.
Bake me a cake as fast as you can…