“…The vast majority of people who carry legal weapons will never draw them in a situation of danger. If their guns are ever used, it is because they have been stolen by a burglar who targeted their home precisely in order to get hold of their guns – or in the suicide of a depressed relative – or in some stupid dispute that they themselves start because emboldened by a gun – or in some heart-rending accident. It is only after the fact, and tragically often, that we discover that the greatest threat to our family came from our own poorly conceived yearning to protect them.” – David From in Guns are Dangerous, Even When Used by Good Men [via thedailybeast.com]
“I’m too worthless, base, and untrustworthy to own or carry a gun AND SO MUST YOU BE ALSO.”
Yep. these people hate and despise themselves; they are convinced they are helpless, powerless and defenseless; that their only protection they can look to is their god called government.
So they transfer all of that self-hate and self-contempt upon everyone else.
If it wasn’t so dangerous to us and all of our freedoms and personal safety, I could even feel sorry for these so called Americans, as it is; we can only so no to their particular brand of self-hatred and hope they get some psychological help for their mental sickness.
I am so relieved that Mr. From knows what’s good for me and my family.
Proof that one does not have to be intelligent to be a “journalist”.
Proof that one does not have to be intelligent to be a
propagandist“journalist”.There, fixed that for you.
Dangerous?
Isn’t that the whole point?
Yup. Pretty sure he hit all the Lib talking points there. If you say it enough times it must be true. Right? Right?
I checked out the site and laughed. The anti-gun propaganda is getting tiresome. They just can’t stop writing all of the BS and using one or two anecdote to justify the whole premise of their article. Of course they do little research to back anything up. It’s all about those tragic anecdotes that are cherry picked.
Mr. From, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Please send this metrosexual buffoon the decades and decades of “The Armed Citizen” columns from the NRA’s American Rifleman mag. But I digress, you can’t present cited facts to a useful liberal idiot.
I have twenty-five years’ of “The Armed Citizen” pages in a binder. Gripping accounts of ordinary persons using firearms in defense of self, family, home or business. Many with heartwarming endings like “the wounded robber with a record of multiple arrests was found dead half a block away”.
Metrosexuals who write for the Daily Beast must nowadays feel themselves surrounded by an angry sea of bitter clingers stocking up on guns & ammo. They wail, “Why doesn’t President Obama DO something!!!?”
January was a scary month for gun rights advocates, but right now I’d say that while there is reason for continued caution and vigilance, there is little need for panic.
Wow! pure projected fear. I am scared of what I might do, so everyone else should be to…..awesome!
I love how people with no vested interest in something are the ones who think they are beat placed to legislate it. He doesn’t give a shit about guns because he doesn’t have any or want any. Lots of things in life are dangerous; grow a pair.
Yes…guns can be dangerous tools. Next?
Outlaw battery operated skill saws!
It’s for the fingers!
The children’s fingers.
Well, he’s half right.
Guns are dangerous. Let’s not tap dance around, avoiding the obvious nail on the head accuracy of that part of his headline. Yeah, the articles is full of lies, but I concur with, and endorse fully, at least half of the headline. Guns are indeed dangerous.
I didn’t get the cool bayonet training in basic, but am sure many of you remember this,
DRILL SERGEANT: “What’s the spirit of the bayonet?” SOLDIER’S RESPONSE: “To kill, Drill Sergeant.”
And isn’t that the spirit of the gun, too? Yeah, many of us will never punch a hole in anything but paper. But many others of us have seen a vibrant, dynamic, beautiful creature turn into a dead eyed hunk of fur or feather covered meat. Very tasty – but quickly and very finally transformed from alive to unalterably, irrevocably dead.
Never point your gun at anything you are not willing to kill (or destroy, I’ve read it both ways.) So, yeah, let’s all agree that guns are dangerous.
And it is precisely BECAUSE they are dangerous that we will not allow a monopoly on their possession or usage by men of ill will. No matter what stripe of criminal they are.
The statistics say my car is a greater threat to my loved ones than my guns. The threat is outward directed, you moron. But they are dangerous, you’re right. Might want to keep that in mind when you encourage their confiscation!
Well put.
The authors name is David Frum, not From.
I’ve proposed almost exactly this system, so I’ve given it a bit of thought. There has to be a component where the seller can call in or check online (both must be available; some people won’t use computers) to verify the buyer’s code.
I’ve also been shouted down by people who insist that this would be unreasonable tyranny and would lead to a registration database. (Which shows how knee-jerk the reaction against background checks is; no firearm data is ever entered into the system under this scheme.)
Frum is the Canadian NeoCon who gave us the moronic “Axis of Evil” meme. He is supposedly a naturalized citizen, but his allegiance is to a nation on the other side of the world.
Congrats on the good score! Remembering the hearing protection issue you mentioned (and as a victim of a very similar experience without warning or protection), I thought I’d pass this along-
http://www.earplugstore.com/silnatrubear.html
Expensive (for earplugs), silicon filled, reusable, and very effective. I tested them by wearing them under a steel roof with four people shooting- now I carry a pair at all times.
Frum used to work for W. He is an example of why gun rights is not really a right vs left issue, it is a class issue.
I like your idea, Nick. I think that would be good step towards a more reasonable system. Personally, I’d like to see a little box on every state’s driver’s license that could be checked if the driver is cleared for firearms purchases- but that would make everyone scream in horror for a number of reasons.
Any proposal that puts the “Background Checking” under any measure of control by the Citizen is contrary to the gun prohibitionists basic concept that we, the so-called ” law-abiding” gun owning Citizens, are basically too stupid, immoral, independent-minded, criminally inclined, irresponsible, “untrained”, possibly rebellious and untrustworthy to be allowed to own firearms, so, of course it is unacceptable to them.
#commentwin
+1000
And nobody has mentioned the sexist nature of this guy’s article. Shame on you, Daily Beast. I thought you were all good sensative liberals. 🙂
“Guns are Dangerous, Even When Used by Good Men”
restricting the means by which the 2nd Amendment is fulfilled is restricting the 2nd Amendment itself. I don’t need any servant of the government to explain that to me.
You guys have realized how easily this could be used for FFL purchases too right? We could do away with the 4473 at the dealer in the name of efficiency or level playing field or something.
My real concern with any American made x39 in my Russian sks is the primers. I’ve heard horror stories of the soft commercial primers making an sks go full auto. The only malfunction I’ve ever had in my sks was with white box winchester ammo. It seemed to be underpowered and would not cycle the action smartly enough to be sure the spent case got clear.
And, as was said above, over a buck a round for my 99 buck rifle seems a little excessive.
Untill the criminal safe zones end there is no need to discuss this further or be “reasonable” with the grabbers. This is highly unlikely though as spreading their cancer is the objective for them. We need to hang on till we can hopefully gain ground in the elections & then put this ugly sad saga behind us permantly, Randy
Let’s all be realistic here – the background check BS is the item most likely to pass, and it’s a powerful weapon in the grabber’s arsenal. Crossing your arms, stamping your foot and demanding that no further laws be passed is just going to make you the sore loser when the Dems regain power in the mid 20’s (and make no mistake, they will the way things are going).
This could wind up being a good bill – add on top of it exemptions for CC holders, and extend that to FFL’s (never do paperwork again!). Work in language that strengthens the GOPA (though I’m actually not for forced reciprocity – what we give the Federal Government the power to grant we give them the power to take away), and maybe some other NFA weakening goodies and you’ve got yourself a good bill. To ensure Barry can’t dissect it via line item Veto, pass it by 2/3’s in each house (it probably would, too). This would effectively increase our rights while also taking away that 90% number these idiots keep quoting.
Wonderfull, don’t own one davey boy, Randy
RF said: “Depending on how you define mental illness, of course. Is that something we should leave to the FBI?”
Actually I would rather have the FBI define it than the folks who do it now. The American Psychiatric Association and the World Health Organization are corrupt, incredibly political groups that have made “everything” a treatable mental disorder. Both organizations are as far left as you can get. The danger of hooking mental problems up to NICS is that you officially sanction the nutty crap they put out. Since they change and mostly add to the list of craziness you’re asking for trouble. The left wing psych’s are going to define at some point gun ownership and interest as a dangerous problem which by definition requires that you be excluded from acting on your interests.
The following is a good article which illustrates how screwed up the APA and its standard reference are:
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_dsmv/
THIS is what the NRA needs to run during prime-time TV viewing.
It uses EMOTION to drive the point home.
Well done!
I’ve never shot a human with a gun.
While I’m pretty damned certain that I’d have little qualm should such a course of action prove necessary to the preservation of life and/or limb, I cannot know.
That said, I’ve shot an intruder with a steel crossbow of sufficient strength that the bolt transfixed him.
That double-shot, knife-prowed bow was left loaded and never hurt a soul other than that intruder.
Neither has any firearm I’ve owned.
This guy is really special, in a short-bus sort of way.
I know all of you operators here don’t flinch when shooting. Of course, when you are not flinching you have eye and ear protection, are psyched up to shoot, are at the range surrounded by other people shooting, and are not in your living room having family time. You’re also shooting at paper, not a living person who is shooting back.
If you wonder why people don’t always take us gun rights advocates seriously, its because of nitpicking like this combined with the “I am a perfect stealth-ninja-SEAL team 6 operator” attitude. Just yesterday there was an article here about competition shooters dropping loaded guns with the safety off. Everyone makes mistakes, flinching happens. The homeowner in this video does so to communicate more dramatically his hesitation to kill. Let it go.
Yet another well off old white guy that lives an insulated life within a closed gate community telling me how I should be living my life, because he is smarter than me and knows whats good for me.
This list shouldn’t be used to prevent innocent civilians from freely traveling via air, either. Unfortunately Republicans pushed this one after 9/11, and now the left suddenly supports it as a gun-control tool.
Leaving aside this poll, I read today that a Republican NH senator Kelly Ayoute was doing a town hall meeting in an out of the way spot, and got harangued for her vote against the M-T bill by some in attendance, and in particular,Erica Lafferty, the daughter of the Sandy Hook principle, who was “disgusted” by the Senator’s action and explanation for her vote. Apparently Ms. Lafferty feels that the burden of her mother’s death outweighed the rights of citizens under the Second Amendment. The first question that popped to my mind was whether she was even a resident of New Hampshire, or instead this was a set-up by MAIG. I also take it she has no ready explanation as to how universal background checks would have done anything to prevent her mother’s murder.
Nice. And about time.