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Quote of the Day: Gun Owners’ Responsibility to Support Gun Control

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“As a gun owner, I feel a particular responsibility to push back against this growing culture of irresponsibility around guns. Just as I insist that guns at my house are stored responsibly and only used appropriately, I believe I owe it to my family and community to insist that my representatives support sensible gun safety measures over political expediency.” – Cindy Spaet in I’m a gun owner. The extremists don’t speak for most of us [via kansascity.com]

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  1. I’ve seen individual examples of a turkey across all lines:

    1. Ruger 10/22 Target where they didn’t drill the pilot hole for the front sling swivel deep enough. Caused a bump in the barrel channel which touched the barrel causing vertical strings. Nothing a pocket knife and some sandpaper couldn’t fix.

    2. Kahr P40 with constant jams through the first 500 rounds. Whatever it was smoothed out and it’s been flawless since.

    3. Russian made 9mm Makarov. Almost a 2 stage trigger it stacked so bad. Designed that way, but tons better after I took a file and some stones to the hump they milled into the trigger/searengagement surface.

    4. Rossi .44 Special where the guide rod would come unscrewed jamming the cylinder. Nothing a little Loctite didn’t cure.

    5. S&W 686 which was recalled back in the late 80s because the hammer firing pin would pierce the primer jamming the cylinder. Mine never did it, but I sent it in anyway. Came back with a better trigger as a bonus. Guys fixing them must have been a little bored and polished them up. Only one I ever sent back.

    6. Browning Buckmark with a tendency to fail to feed. That one is still a work in progress, but I think I have it figured out with the help of Dremel.

    Overall, I think I have been lucky given 40 plus years in the shooting sports.

    The bottom line is that firearms are mechanical devices, just like cars. Like cars, they’re going to have problems with some being more severe than others. You either need to learn to diagnose the problem’s cause and the fix it yourself or you’re dealing with a “mechanic”, the factory or you trade it in.

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  2. I have a XD9 Mod.2 without the grip zone; which is what Springfield calls their current style of texturing not telling you where to hold the gun, that would be stupid. I have over 1,000 rounds through mine without a malfunction of any kind. It took a while to get used to the trigger but it shoots pretty well for a short barrel.

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  3. I always love when they throw around homicide numbers as if they mean anything. They don’t. A homicide is simply one human killing another. Whether lawful or unlawful doesn’t matter. Oddly enough, the numbers of lawful and unlawful never pop up, probably because they would destroy the narrative.

    Same with suicide numbers. Availability of firearms has absolutely no influence on number of suicides. Just look at India or Japan.

    And of course “gun violence epidemic”. Damn, I would love to have an epidemic where about 0.2% of people die every year (no, suicides don’t count, and no, lawful homicides also don’t count as “gun violence”.) That’s not even an epidemic. That’s statistically irrelevant.

    Now, what exactly is an “extremist” on this? I would like to see that definition. It’s probably the same old “everyone who doesn’t agree with me.” “Sensible”? Same thing. Define sensible first. But if I had to guess “sensible” means her ideas and none other.

    Mothers Demand. It seems that this entire “movement” puts emphasis on “mothers” because apparently, so they seem to believe, mothers have devoured wisdom with a silver spoon simply because they got pregnant. Fun fact: that’s not how it works.

    No Cindy. You don’t speak for me or anybody else. You were not elected by anyone. You only speak for yourself and you have absolutely no moral high ground in this.

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  4. THE ONLY REASON THE HONOR SUSTEM OF GUN CONTROL WORKS, IS THAT THE HONORABLE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW IT, MOMENT TO MOMENT.

    WHEN PEOPLE FAIL TO BE HONORABLE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THE SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM IS ONLY ABLE TO MUSTER A RE-ACTIONARY RESPONSE. AND SUCH REACTIONARY RESPONSE MAY COME LONG AFTER THE FACT, OR NEVER.

    The C⭕️Ck-bag communist gun- grabbers don’t speak for ANY decent, worthy US Citizen, and I demand my representatives do more to rid the world of them, and do more to protect our Constitution from their dangerous communist bullsh_t.

    THEY ALL GOTTA FING GO

    That is what THEY are, in fact, saying too. It’s just that you haven’t heard the last of THEIR message. If THEY fast-forwarded right to the end statement, YOUwouldn’t just be ‘rejecting’ them, you would cut them and let them bleed out.

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  5. She claims to ‘support the Second Amendment’ but her beef is ‘This year, legislators proposed a “Guns Everywhere” bill (their name, not mine) that would have allowed people to carry g uns in schools, college and university facilities, and even bars.’ So she believes you have a right to keep AND BEAR arms unless you want to enter a bar or seek higher education, in which case you should have to give up your constitutionally protected rights. Living 180 miles north of KC, I can tell you that in my state gu ns are allowed in bars and drinking is permitted (provided your BAC doesn’t exceed 0.08%) and it’s not been a problem here. I know, because the bar is where you’ll find me most Saturday nights. And I will be armed as well as a couple of other patrons that I know about. No shootings yet.

    Then she cites increases in crime in KC and St. Louis. I don’t think she understands the difference between these inner city neighborhoods and Chillicothe or Farmington. The people perpetrating these crimes don’t care about her victim disarmament zones unless it’s to prey on the defenseless. If she wanted to reduce ‘gunviolence’ she’d be heading up an outreach program to get inner city kids out of gangs. Instead she’d rather infringe on the rights of the law abiding. But she still ‘supports the Second Amendment’.

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  6. I never was clear on what legally constituted a “fugitive from justice” for Form 4473 purposes. Apparently, neither were the FBI and the ATF. Intuitively, I would have thought that fugitive from justice would at least mean someone who has an active arrest warrant for failure to appear (whether appearing before a court, a parole/probation officer, at halfway house, left their last known address without providing a new address etc.).

    Something B.S. like an arrest warrant for an unpaid traffic ticket, your basic Class C misdemeanor punishable only by a small fine, should be excluded from consideration and inclusion among disqualifying elements. What’s next? Library fines?

    “Fugitive” implies someone who has gone to great lengths to evade the justice system over some serious offense; somebody who is on the lam, not some suburban guy with an overdue library book in his glove compartment that he keeps forgetting to stop by and return.

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  7. This Cindy gal wants legislators to support sensible gun safety measures…

    Please define ‘sensible gun safety measures’. What is it? Spell it out! I think Cindy is a faux gun owner. I don’t think she owns a single firearm.

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    • She’s a female Democrat; therefore a corrupt, dishonest, manipulative piece of dung that cannot be trusted; EVER!!, to be reasonable, nor honest…. FLAME her!…..

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  8. Well Cindy Spaet, when arsonists use tampons to start 2 million building fires and injure/kill 320,000 people every year, are you going to clamor for the following tampon safety laws:
    (1) tampon secure storage requirements
    (2) one box of tampons per month purchase limit
    (3) must be 21 years of age to purchase tampons
    (4) must complete FDA form 4473 for every tampon purchase
    (5) universal background checks for tampon purchase/transfers
    (6) “good cause” requirement for license to carry tampons in public
    (7) tampon “straw purchases” must be a felony
    (8) cannot bring tampons on commercial airliners
    (9) cannot bring tampons into federal buildings
    (10) cannot bring tampons into K-12 schools
    (11) cannot bring tampons into universities

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  9. We have to be responsible with our firearms _ and we are because if we weren’t, we would be dieing off. All of us have seen people doing crazy things with guns, it is all over the internet. Most of the problems here can be fixed with peer pressure. Of course, having a handgun close, where I can get to it if I am awakened by a bad noise, is my idea of safety. I do not like laws that limit my safety.

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  10. so she/he/it, locks their guns up? what about rifles and Pistols and or Muzzle loaders, guess there not as dangerous! Its kids will grow up knowing nothing about weapon safety, probably break into her safe just too explore and then instant Mayhem out of curiosity! this very ignorant person wants us to change our behavior just so She/He/It can feel safe, my we have too ban all automotive equipment of all kinds, Bows & Arrows and most knives longer than 2.5 inches, crossbows , slingshots and air rifles, rocks, sticks, no clothes either to prove no concealed sharpened spoon handles, no hammers, saws no nails longer than 2 inches etc.

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  11. So here’s a question I have about gas lengths:

    What would you use a .223 caliber 14.5″ or 16″ long barrel with a PISTOL length gas system on? If a mid gas is softer with a 16″ barrel than a carbine length gas system, that pistol length system has to be one rough shooter. The reason I ask is I was gifted a 16″ barrel with a pistol gas system and have no idea what I should do with it.

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  12. Remington 710, Barrel slid forward putting it out of head space on 3rd shot using Remington 180s in 30-06,
    sent it in, back too range, bot handle fell of on recoil, back to shop, was repaired back to range, cross hair in scope broke, sent it back then got rid of it!

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  13. So, when a firearm is loaded and ready for self-defense, it is in-use. Otherwise, it’s secured in a quality gun safe.

    I prefer loaded, chambered, and on my hip or in my pocket (or both); otherwise, locked in my gun safe. If that is what she means, I don’t think us “gun extremists” disagree much. There may be locations in the country where the gun safe isn’t necessary.

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  14. 1. Desert Eagle baby eagle in .45 ACP and 3.6″ barrel. Looked great and was great to shoot, but jammed at least 1-2 times per mag no matter what I did with any type of ammo. Traded it off.

    2. Moss berg 930 SPX. Functioned great until it didnt. The trigger would ra dimly fail to release. It sucks in a 3 gun match when it entirely failed. Luckily in this match some e could throw you a shotgun to keep going. Never could figure out the problem so of it went. I bought a 590A1 and it’s been fantastic.

    3. Remington 870 Express. I traded some stuff for this. It was a bad trade. This shotgun will also have trigger group failures. Poor finish, cheap wood, weak she’ll holder for the tube. In hard use it will puke the shell onto the action while in battery locking up the shotgun until you can push it back into the tube. That takes a knife and time. It sits in the safe for now.

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  15. I have a Tula made all matching Russian SKS, made in 1951. My dad bought it in the mid or late 90’s when they were coming into the country ridiculously cheap, I think he paid $99 for it, and it was in new condition at the time. I have personally seen it kill many deer! Now that dad is gone it is definitely a “never sell” gun more for the sentimental value, as a few of his guns are all that myself and three brothers have left from him, as well as his 64.5 Mustang. Unfortunately the rifle was stored poorly for a number of years and the finish is in rough shape now. Since I will never part with it I’m highly tempted to send it off to be refinished somewhere.
    Ive also bought and sold two Garands this year. Both I paid too much for and took a loss on because I didnt know what to look for. Both had loose stock fits. For now I have a Springfield 1903a3 that I bought in like new condition with a mirror bright barrel for only $450!

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  16. Sig p238
    Had stove stove pipes failure to feeds constantly tried multiple mags, still did it one every mag 2 or more times out of the 6 rounds. Sent it in 3 times kept being told it was fixed and wasn’t. The first time I was told it needed to be broken in with 500 rounds put 700+ in it still malfunctioned every mag. The last time sig mailed it back to the wrong address and lost my gun. They told me I had to contact my local LE to get it back. I did and sig had mailed it to a townhouse they people moved right after taking it. LE has no leads. I told sig and they told me basically too bad. I called them every day for 6 months telling them they needed to make their mistake right. I was told by the lady they had more important things to deal with. Finally after 6 months of daily phone calls my original gun never recovered they sent my ffl dealer a replacement. I sold it with out firing a shot what a pos gun and company.

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  17. I recall an incident at an abortion facility some time ago where the facility itself was bombed and then a second device detonated when the rescue personnel arrived.

    Can’t remember any other details.

    So it has, in fact, happened here, although on a one-off, limited scale.

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  18. Yup. Just don’t have that kinda scratch. Tags are usually around 25K.
    I can do some serious plains game for 25K.
    A buddy of mine just got back from Namibia. Got two leopards on problem animal tags. On problem animal tags you aren’t allowed to keep the animal. Kind of a bummer, since he was there to hunt leopard. He just didn’t come up with one on his regular tag.

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  19. I have forsaken any pretense of being able to reload, during a confrontation. Sure, I carry a spare magazine once in a while but my main goal will be to save myself first, shoot later.

    My hope is, if I’m not part of that 92% of non-discharging incidents, is that my first shot will disrupt whatever is going on. You’d best believe I’ll be behind cover and my target clearly identified. If not, I won’t shoot.

    If one shot won’t seem to manage the threat, I may have to stand down and ride it out. Of course, who knows what will come down the pike. Hopefully nothing.

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  20. Absolutely. Not only is it politically incorrect, but legally-hunted lions hunts protect the rest of the lions. Poaching sure doesn’t.

    My hunting budget is about to give way to my holiday shopping budget, so I don’t see any more armed hikes in my near future.

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  21. Roger 10/22. Bought it new and this thing was bad. FTF and stovepipes. Sent the gun back three times and still doesn’t work. But my Remington 597 has been really reliable.

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  22. Tier one operations! It has been my experience that these gear centric guys tend to dump 1-2k in a Glock, than an equal amount into an AR that they rarely, if ever shoot. When they do it’s the AR doing “drills” that look like random mag dumps at targets 10-15 yards out.

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  23. Dan, let’s get frank, your hunting rounds are much more powerful than the ‘war’ rifles you knock. You sound like a liberal troll and who knows you could be.

    If you want gun control then say it, don’t be a baby and try to work both sides! Clear?

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