The latest effort to let the President and congressional civilian disarmers know that the People of the Gun are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it any more is the Day of Resistance, a series of pro-2A demonstrations scheduled for February 23. Or, to the horror of some in the media, 2/23. See what they did there? According to one of the organizers’ sites, they’ve lined up 53 rallies around the country so far. Conspicuously missing are states like Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey and the seat of power, D.C. They say they’re working on it, though. But even if the protests draw the teeming throngs of peaceful pro-RKBAers the organizers hope they will, would everyone’s time be better spend calling and emailing their legislators? Or taking non-shooters to the range? Do photo ops on the evening news of gun owners shivering in the cold and holding signs move the gun rights ball forward?
It’s hard to take people to the range when you can’t find enough range ammo to make it worth it.
I’m out of town on business on 2/23, but part of my trip is to track down some pistol primers for the father in law.
On topic: no reason why we can’t rally, contact our reps, and take new people to the range. We’re not lazy stoned college liberals.
I think it does, because our rallies are bigger than theirs. And its gives a face to the movement. Also, its a break from the crap everyone sees on MSM. (if it gets covered that is)
They are helpful, yes. They’re good for morale – that may be the most important thing – for us. But they also help get the message out to America at large: WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET OUR RIGHTS BE NEGATED BY PUBLIC OPINION!!! NUTS!!!!
I would guess a lawsuit will be needed to get all those records. They will probably give out some non damaging ones. Small claims court around here is about 60 bucks, money well spent. Interesting story, good luck, Randy
Show em how its done Nick, Randy
I doubt there is “a list” but there are plenty of information sources from which to determine the likelihood than any given individual has a gun or not.
Have you ever:
– bought a hunting licenses in any state
– had a carry permit in any state
– bought ammunition/guns/parts/accessories online
– use a credit/debit card in the local gun stores
– filled out a Form 4473 – likely a NICS check was logged
– posted about guns on the Internet or frequent sites like TTAG
There is no good source to determine exactly what’s in your gun safe, and likely no record that your uncle’s 1897 S&W revolver is there, but plenty of ways to get a general idea where to start looking.
Does it matter? Likely not. In IT we refer to “signal vs. noise” a lot – too much information is sometimes worse than not enough information. Combine all those sources above and I bet you’ll get “hits” on 1/4 to 1/2 the US population. “Behind every blade of grass” comes to mind.
Congrats, Nick! I’m looking forward to the coverage.
I just ordered a 45-70 and can’t wait to get it. I bought ammo before I even ordered this Henry. This will make my 4th Henry and been very pleased with all of them. Tube feed does slow you down but for me it gives me a chance to calm down and improve my shots.
I was told by a Hartford CT cop (friend) last week that Lanza was on tape at the HS, but was scared off my the sight of police or police car–I don’t remember which.
The cop also stated that no AR was used and that all reports, including the medical examiner, are purposely being held until summer in order to allow gun control laws to be passed.
Concerning how a rifle wasn’t used, that is very dangerous information Rabbi.
If your source is correct, do you think that the government would ever allow that to be reported to the public? It would prove that we, as citizens, have been lied to about the event to push an agenda.
I just don’t agree with polls. 1,500 people are supposed to represent a population of 19,000,000? Even if you’re just talking “registered voters”, there are around 4,000,000 of those in NY state. Polls are B$.
As for the northeast, I’m still saying our best plan is to get the decent folks out of there and petition Canada to annex everything from DC up. We can give southern Cali to Mexico to go with the guns we gave them. Problems solved.
The purpose is NOT to “move the ball forwards”. The purpose is solidarity to let people know there are many and varied others who are we them on this.
In other words: The purpose is to show how big the ball actually is, and that it is in fact too big to be willingly be moved backwards.
The 2nd amendment is about so much more than firearms that it seems a shame to limit a rally to only one interest.
When gun grabbers insist that “no person should violate the rights of others”, they are at the same time claiming that individuals HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO RESIST any illegal violation of their rights. (Rape, Murder, Robbery, etc.)
Do we still have the right to run away when our life is threatened? Does running away not interfere with our potential mugging/murder?
If what they say is true, if government alone gets to determine who is allowed to do what, then we really don’t have any rights. We have ‘Entitlements’.
First we heard that POTUS wouldn’t come after our guns because gun control is the political “third rail.”
How’s that working out?
Now we hear that an AWB can’t pass.
Wake up. Look at the Senate seats that will be up for election 2014 and tell me if there is a single Democrat who would be at risk if her or she voted for an AWB. If Reid lets the bill come up for a vote, it will pass the Senate by at least 10 votes after picking up phoney NRA A-rateds like Bob Casey. An easy win for the gungrabbers.
The House is the last line of defense, but don’t count on it to save the day. The pro-2A group is razor thin. Democrats will do what Nancy Pelosi tells them to do, and northern Republicans will defect and vote with the Dems. A narrow win for the gungrabbers.
Meanwhile, at 2A central, the NRA is stretched thin having to defend in Washington and the states. This broad front attack is intentional and is intended to drain NRA resources that were already depleted bythe 2012 campaign. Guess what? It’s working.
Finally, in the battle of the media, we are getting completely hosed. We are losing big time.
Things can change, and we can change them. But unless we do, the chances of an AWB passing, based upon what we know now, is a moral certainty.
The big mistake the pro-gun groups can do is stop fighting even if the DiFi bill gets the boot. There needs to be concerted effort via PACs to disassemble the anti-gun polls at the Federal and State Level on a continuous basis.
Looks like a Stepford Wife to me.
Welcome, Will. What do you do in your spare time?
If they get any camera time on the MSM, then yes.
But more often then not if turns out to be another “Look at these nut jobs” piece, when 20 people at a Million moms march get cleverly angled shots and “These concerned citizens are protecting the children through disarmament” anyway….
But screw it. Get out there and make some crooked politicians nervous when they look out their window and see a few hundred firearms on pissed off citizens hips and shoulders
The solution to this is within our reach: we supply our own camera teams and stage our own shots, get a semi-pro or pro to edit the results into an effective clip, post it to YouTube and Facebook, and get everyone to spread the word. If it’s professionally done and PR releases are sent out to the news orgs, you can further amplify the effect by getting them to run your footage.
Awesome, congrats! Will you post videos of the competition?
I like rallies, calling representatives, and taking people to the range.
Speaking of rallies, no one has really had much time to plan these rallies and they are happening during awful weather for much of the country; thus attendance isn’t as large as I would like to see.
Let’s start planning a huge, unprecedented rally on the most symbolic possible day for such a rally: July 4th of this summer. If we could get something like 10,000 people to demonstrate at every state capital in the nation, that would really be significant. And since it is on a national holiday, most people should be able to attend because many people have that day off from work.
I don’t see any point in beating around the bush!
YES They are useful
The Pols on the fence have their staffers carefully counting and crunching the voter numbers. Heavy turnouts make the politicians much more careful on how they vote.
IF they want to be reelected!
it really breaks my heart to hear this; after watching Demolition Man all those years ago i always just assumed that Stallone believed in Liberty and Freedom(for everyone, not just himself). 🙁
Outstanding!!!!!!!!
He was far more polite than I would be. Strident? Nonsense. The Founders were strident. “Give me libery or give me death” was strident. Thomas Paine was strident. Steven’s is just an honest everyman, voicing his righteous and justified indignation at a bunch of moralizing, lying pr!cks. Good for him. We need more guys just like that.
I don’t know about you, but I’m not begging anyone for my rights. And I’m not surrendering them either.
The NRA should use this guy as their poster boy….
I think that what this man said has further implications for the school system, and the people responsible for their oversight.
The term in loco parentis, Latin for “in the place of a parent, refers to the legal responsibility of a person or organization to take on some of the functions and responsibilities of a parent.
It would seem reasonable that the community should expect the same level of protection afforded to their children in the home to be availablein the school. If there is a failure to be able to afford that protection to the children then people need to be directly accountable for their inaction or irresponsibility in carrying out this duty.
Mr. Paul’s misuse of the quote from Matt.26:52 is common, but disturbing. It reflects an utter callousness toward the murdered Chris Kyle and his family. He compounds his unkindness by tweeting this bilge.
Bad form Mr. Paul.
Remember, part of oath Chris took was to follow orders, which he did to best of his ability. If he had not, he would have been placed in prison.
If the orders were illegal congress should have stopped the president from giving them. So you could say Ron Paul was the guilty party. Perhaps, Ron Paul should just shut the f*** up.
Of course, there is the first amendment, so I guess he can speak any sh*t he wants.
A couple of facts they convinently overlook: first of all, you can cross state lines to buy a long gun, but not a handgun. I wonder how many of those gun crimes were committed with an out of state long gun. My guess is not many. Secondly, they don’t say how the out of state guns got nto the state. My guess is that most of them came with people moving into MA from other states. As I understand it, you don’t have to register any gunsvthat cme with you when you move into the state, so MA has no idea you have them. Finally, it’s possible that some of the out of state guns were stolen. By omitting these details and facts, you can craft a very different story than you would get from the truth.
Call me overly political, but a day after major exposure in one of the nation’s most read newspapers, presumably leading to new visitors, is that little monstrosity a good post-worth news bit? Enthusiasm for barrel-less shotguns? Mightn’t such items be left until, I don’t know, maybe next August? This is an important legislative season.
If the forces of the US military were actually protecting the constitution, or the lives of American citizens, or their rights, they wouldn’t be in occupying Afghanistan, they’d be occupying Washington.
Chris Kyle was a soldier. He killed people for money, that was his job. I’m not denying that sometimes that’s necessary, but the man was no angel. Moreover, taking trained killers suffering from PTSD to a shooting range is not the brightest idea I ever heard of.
Oh, and before it comes up, I’ve voted for Ron Paul precisely zero times.
I dont agree, in part. Judging the success of the NICS checks only on the number of convictions is the same as judging DGUs based on the number of perps killed. Looking at the NCJRS report from only 2009 shows over 1,000 cases where the gun involved was either returned to the FFL, transferred to someone else, seized, etc. Thats still a very small number, but its more substantial.
I can only hope that Mr. Nugent and others will read this before their next televised interview. Here is the most damning question that they can pose to Piers Morgan or whoever is conducting the interview. If you believe gun control laws will stop criminals from assaulting people with firearms, please explain the insanely violent situation in the country of South Africa. South Africa has had draconian gun control for years and years. And yet criminals in South Africa use firearms to assault their victims many, many times more often than happens in the U.S. How can that be?
Kent State is a bad metaphor for the current 2A struggle.
As Dyspeptic Gunsmith points out above, it was not a case of the man coming to harsh the mellow of peaceful protestors who were just trying to be heard. The governor called out the guard unit after consulting with the university president and local leaders. They were concerned (rightfully so) that the ROTC building was the first of many targets, not the only target.
Just a little research into crowds at protest events that have turned violent would tell you they were right. It is not that broken windows are a terrible crime. It is broken windows first. Some looting. A few cars turned over. A car set on fire. A building set on fire. Hey, while we are at it let’s rape some women, steal some stuff, and kill that cop.
The better lesson to learn is that you need your 2A rights because violent mobs have to be confronted. The NG will help when they can. But if you think waiting on the police to respond is too long….
Nice to have you! It’s good to have people with such varying viewpoints represent gun owners here.