Man who killed him mom, and self, in a standoff with police was not allowed to have firearms. That’s the headline at washingtonpost.com and various other “news” sites. That’s the story in a nutshell. Apparently, it bears repeating . . .
A man who killed his mother and then fired more than 100 rounds at police as her body lay in a yard during an eight-hour standoff before killing himself, wasn’t permitted to have firearms and likely obtained them from his father, who killed himself days after the rampage.
And this is news because . . . ?
The forces of civilian disarmament must convince people that civilian disarmament disarms criminals.
Where’s the evidence for that, exactly? The fact that the WaPo considers a Pennsylvania felon’s ability to obtain firearms to commit murder in any way remarkable is laughable — if anti-gun agitprop wasn’t so effective amongst prog press purveyors.
Which begs the question: what’s the alternative to this delusional belief? How DO you stop criminals from getting guns? Is that even possible?
Is there a way to stop heroin users from getting heroin? (other than asking the CIA to stop importing it so they can fund their operations). And what’s up with “Man who killed him mom” in the first line of this piece? Hitting spellcheck doesn’t work, you have to manually read it.
It seems the criminals who have the most difficulty obtaining firearms are either dead or incarcerated. Feel free to connect the dots.
Wow. The “professor” conveniently ignores the fact that “stand your ground” is rooted in English Common Law. Outside of the home, retreat was not required when attacked, although the degree of defensive force and the ability of the defender to retreat was important to determine whether the defensive force was reasonable under the circumstances.
Inside the home, there was no requirement to retreat at all, but the degree of defensive force still had to be reasonable.
English judges constantly watered-down England’s self defense laws, until today they hardly exist at all. And that’s what Professor Numbnuts wants for America.
No.
I believe it was Dan Flores on The MeatEater podcast was talking about how Coyotes differ from wolves or dogs. When Coyotes packs numbers dwindle from hunting pressure they females of the pack start having larger litter sizes to compensate. Crazy animals, not just wild dogs running around the woods.
So i guess if you are going to start killing them you had better kill them all, quick. Or they will come back with larger numbers than before.
The conservationists in the NYT article made this point, and I wondered if it were true–but it certainly makes sense. As long as there is a source of food, the pack will continue to grow, and coyotes are smart enough to know when they are being hunted.
Cayotes don’t run in packs. Doesn’t mean there are not a lot in same areas. Cayotes are solidarity predators.
If I saw someone defacing a Confederate statue I’d beat the hell out of them. The civil war wasn’t about slavery. Besides we have to honor every black cop killer that BLM deems is a martyr.
Is There Any Way to Stop Criminals from Getting Guns?
Simple answer is No.
Wrong question though. Why should we even care? Right question…
Why do we let criminals out of jail that we don’t trust with guns? If someone isn’t trustworthy enough to have a gun then why would we let them among us in the first place? And that leads down a path that no liberal will ever follow. Yes Virginia, there really are bad guys.
In a nutshell, the answer to this question is “Nope”.
It’s not possible. Look at France statistics. France beats the US in mass shooting statistics and have stricter gun laws.
The real question is can you stop criminals from killing people.
Where there’s a psychopath, there’s a way.
It no longer makes sense to carry a 357. I grew up with Revolvers only. In the early 70’s that’s all we had that was small enough to hide in states like NY, and Cities like Manhattan. But now there are so many choices and improved ammo, that you can get a 9mm that has the same result as a 357 at that barrel length. No reason to carry a 5 shot gun when you may be facing 2 or 3 bad guys with automatics. Plus they will blow out your ear drums. I just got over am infected ear from picking at it due to it closing up from shooting. Why put yourself through this. 50% of rounds fired are misses, it takes 2 or more rounds to drop a guy charged up on adrenaline and or drugs, so you have enough for maybe 1 guy. Not great odds, Those are FBI statistics from in house gunfights that agents were in. They claim that a 9mm will do a better job than a 357.
If you insist, get a 38 oz handgun with 7 or 8 rounds, like S&W now has in their 686 and Custom shop.
Can you keep somebody who is willing to break the rules of the game from breaking the rules of the game? Sure. Don’t let them play the game. If they’re out there living and breathing then they’re playing the game.
I’m pretty happy with the gun my better half put under the tree for me: an M1 Carbine. Woman knows the way to my heart is through my trigger finger!
“This doesn’t mean that aggressive coyotes don’t exist, but we need to learn how to minimize conflicts in our cities, instead of making things worse,” I guess if we just sat down and talk to them everything would just straighten itself out.
NYC?
Does NYC allow the sale of firearms? If they’re not really licensing people, then they aren’t using NICS. If they aren’t using NICS, then they have no standing in the suit.
this is not the question. the question is really “how do we determine WHO is a criminal (before they commit crimes)/will use a gun illegally”. the only real way to answer that question is brain scans and even that would just be circumstantial evidence, at best. And that would only point out people with brain abnormalities like psychopathy. it would do nothing be people who just WANT to harm others. Evil is a word that is thrown around a lot, i just call them “sick”. because some people are just sick assholes, no magical force behind it. just plain old humans doing what they do.
What a hoot! Three cities that try their damnedest to deny their citizens guns suing the Feds for not being efficient in clearing gun sales.
Does TFB face any civil and/or criminal liability for promoting this defective gun and apparently conspiring with honor defense to cover up a potentially fatal defect?
“Three Democrat senators,” next question.
If national unlicensed open carry became law either by legislation or by supreme court ruling the result would force many people to openly carry in New York increasing pressure to make the licensing system a shall issue at a cheaper cost.
If the money went into their collective reelection campaign accounts, they’d be all over it.
I saw a coyote crossing a VERY busy stretch of road here near the airport in Orlando, FL.
Wild pigs…deer…coyotes…
gators love them all…LOL
More than one police officer has been caught “borrowing” or selling guns from the evidence room in Australia.
Imagine the same happens in USA
No. I give to you, as Exhibit-A, Prohibition.
Next question.
And here I thought the gun-grabbers don’t want to grab your guns.
Oops. Oh, wait. They do. That’s why they’re rightly called gun-grabbers. NOT “gun control advocates.” NOT “gun safety advocates,” NOT “gun reformers,” or any of the other flavor-of-the-day bullshit label they want to cloak themselves with.
They ARE, as a matter of unarguable-fucking-FACT, coming for our guns and you should never, EVER let anyone — not even among our own — even so much as hint at or allude to anything to the contrary. It’s a fucking LIE. A LIE that has been repeatedly exposed and conclusively proven time and time again. They KNOW that it’s a LIE. And they’ll freely and loudly LIE even more to cover up that LIE. Call out that LIE even more loudly, and even more often, and MAKE them admit it until they stop denying it altogether. At which point they’ll either shut up or embrace it and say it loudly and proudly. Don’t ever let them deflect away, don’t ever let them change the subject, don’t ever let them LIE, just MAKE them admit that “gun control,” “gun safety,” “gun reform” etc. etc is nothing other than code for gun-GRABBING.
THAT is what they want. THAT is their goal. THAT is why gun-grabbing laws are ineffective and immoral. THAT is why their entire fucking enterprise must be MADE to grind to a screeching halt, and REVERSED, and then PERMANENTLY dismantled.
In its ENTIRETY.
Will the government get involved is this defect causes deaths in much the same way as the government got involved with the GM ignition switch defect.
Borg
I had her back in the 80’s in a very remote area where mail delivery etc did not happen. You picked it up in town.
Family with five very girls took her when I was transferred back to city. The parents loved the idea of having such a protective animal as dad worked away and their farm was isolated. They had her until old age.
Garbage guns, made by a garbage company, sold by a piece of human garbage, to garbage customers.
He must really hate New Jersey.
“He had a gun in his waistband…”
In his waistband, or in a holster in his waistband?
Conceal carry. Yes, he won the fight. But he still took a round in the shoulder (potentially lethal if it goes the wrong way or hits the wrong vessel) when he could have probably avoided the fight altogether.
I was born and raised in upstate New York. Most of my father’s ancestors lived in Ohio and Indiana and fought for the Union, although I have found a few in my genealogy who lived further south and fought for the Confederacy. My mother’s family were early 20th Century European immigrants and had no part in that era of US history.
But it was US history. They were all Americans who believed in their rights and the Civil War was not about slavery. It was about states rights. They were all Americans and they died in the most tragic war in our history. I am glad the Union won. Slavery was an abomination that needed to be abolished and should have never happened in the first place. But those brave men who fought and died on both sides deserve to be remembered. This revisionist outlook on history is dangerous and is the same thing that has been carried on in other countries when people want to change the history books. Jackson, Lee, Armistad, and all the others were no less Americans than Grant and all the other Union commanders.
And before anyone starts the Nazi-Holocaust comparison, my wife is a fist generation immigrant from Austria whose grandmother still bears the tattoo of the number branded on her skin in a Nazi concentration camp. She isn’t even Jewish; her family was condemned for not supporting Hitler. But history needs to be respected and we need to do our best to understand the people who lived it. Otherwise we are destined to repeat it. I live in Virginia now and I respect the men who fought and died for their beliefs on both sides of the Civil War.
“The recertification form requires that the licensee disclose his or her ‘name, date of birth, gender, race, residential address, social security number, [and] firearms possessed by such license holder,'”
I self identify as an Apache Helicopter, and as such I find it racist, and against my religion to need paperwork! It’s a burden on me and ARMLESS helicopter brethren to fill out paper work, I’ll need a state appointed clerk to do this all for me, otherwise, as I’ve stated, it’s racist. But, you’re still violating my religious rights!
See, you just have to play the game by different rules. If others can self identify however they want, you can too. 😉
One is none. Heard that somewhere.
And that muzzle is pointing straight at the dude’s face. That was my takeaway from this…..no I haven’t read the article.
Being a white adult law abiding male in a relatively peaceful part of the country, I will probably never be stopped and frisked, so I will try to take that into account when I voice my opinion.
I think that police should be able to approach someone in a friendly manner and inquire about their intentions under any circumstances. Just because someone has been staring at a bank for five minutes does not mean they are going to rob it. Maybe they’re just summoning their courage prior to a job interview.
But a policeman’s ability to gather information should be limited to whatever information the individual volunteers, and what is in plain view, even is the person is suspected of a minor infraction.
The sticky part happens if the subject resists the inquiry, and they are not suspected of anything. Some police believe that being rude to a cop, or worse yet, running, is grounds for arrest. They are wrong. Being rude to a cop, even obscenely rude, is covered by the First Amendment, and while running can certainly be considered along with other factors as contributing to probable cause, it does not in and of itself constitute probable cause.
So if being rude is not probable cause, and running is not probable cause, I don’t see how stopping someone and frisking them in hopes of “finding” probable cause could be justifiable.
3 Great reasons. A 4th? You can actually practice with them at your local Indoor range. Unlike the shotgun or AR that need a outdoor gun club or wide open space to use. I can be at a indoor pistol range in 10 mins drive. A Beretta Storm CX4 has long been on my XMAS wish list. And a Lever gun in .357 or .44 mag Would do too.