Reader Matt W. writes:
I don’t carry. I support the RKBA without any ifs, ands or buts. Any. I live in a pro-gun town in the pro-gun state of Idaho. I am thrilled we are about to make concealed carry legal on college campuses. I’m a financial planner, one of the youngest in the country. I view concealed carry like a life insurance premium, which I have and sell a lot of. Given the stats, I don’t pay the carry “premium.” So many people in Idaho pay it already . . .
Just “the implication” — to quote Dennis Reynolds of IASIP — of all these other “policyholders” here in the land of potatoes and elk, allows me to to walk around statistically safe every single day. I’m certainly not saying I’m smarter for not carrying. But the risks of low frequency, high severity events are what I help people prepare for. And I’m sure there are other TTAGers who don’t pack heat for reasons that are worthy of discussion. Why don’t you carry?
All this pre supposes honest cops, honest DAs, and no politics hovering in the background. KNOCK KNOCK hello, its REALITY calling.
Ask GZIMMERMAN how the whole “be honest and explain what happened to the cops” thing worked out. A couple weeks later after Al Sharpton and Obama decided he needed to hang it was off to the races with murder charges.
Wake up people, the cops are never your friends.
It worked out by getting him found not guilty. Learn the facts.
Umm, he never should have been charged in the first place based on the original post. Duh. Do whatever you like, I could care less. Everyman for himself in this jungle.
Something to keep in the back of your mind is that each state, each county, (Parrish), and each city is likely to be different.
The AI here will likely know these differences.
Pro versus anti gun. Red versus blue, etc.
Probable cause meant a lot to me. As did seeking the truth.
I, and others in my department would never just arrest someone because they said nothing. There must be evidence to support an event.
Here, a potential felony will almost always be reviewed by a grand jury. They will decide whether or not to cause a warrant to be issued.
This is a good thing. If no true bill is determined, the DA normally won’t go against a grand jury and issue a warrant.
Hopefully you know whether or not to have faith in your local law enforcement.
Unsure? Have your local gun club invite them to give a short presentation on the subject. Have a Q and A session.
I don’t carry yet because my permit is not ready yet…waiting the 90-120 days until I get a card in the mail from the sherrifs office telling me to come pick it up….hopefully it will come before the end of March.
Right now?
Because San Fransisco PD arrests visitors who carry guns.
Seriously, as beneficial as concealed carry is, I think sometimes people put far too much emphasis on carrying a gun as a defensive tool. Getting shot sucks, no doubt, but factually speaking we are more likely to die from driving the cars in our driveways or eating too many beef Chalupas.
As such, I’d consider a person without a CCW but a frequently used gym membership and advanced driving training as better prepared for the real deadly killers of Americans then the obese dude with the MOLLE pouch plate carrier.Heart disease and cars kill hundreds of people a week . Even Chicago street gangs aren’t that violent.
I’ve never heard any such thing about the SFPD. A California CCW is valid in all counties, and an arrest would be unlawful. The only police contacts I’ve seen reported on CalCCW with SFPD were positive.
Even though I live in CT, I work in NYC.
Good grief! That is insult on top of injury!
Chief Brian Sullivan of the Lincoln, RI PD.
Wearing a concealed gun is uncomfy no matter how small it is. Cops wear duty belts for a reason. Of course its OK for them to constantly show off their gun. Chuck Connors in The Rifleman showed how its easier to just carry a rifle instead of a pistol. But that assumes a friendly sheriff, and townsfolk who dont scream in terror and call 911 at the sight of a long gun.
Look into the small NAA mini revolvers, at I think around 4 oz.
I have a small magnum with I 1/8″ barrel. I carry it in my front jean pocket and never really know it’s there.
The 22 magnum is not much compared to a 45, but the right style of bullet at “in your face” range can do considerable damage.
There are guns smaller than cell phones, nowadays.
If you can’t a fit an LCP (or like size pocket guns) in your pocket comfortably, you should rethink your wardrobe because it’s not the gun’s fault.
I know what you mean, but I agree with RockOnHellChild. IWB carrying is uncomfortable for me too. A pocket pistol with a soft Remora holster changed everything. Now I carry pretty much everywhere, and I can’t believe how comfortable it is.
So get an OWB rig instead. With a small gun and a long shirt or jacket, the gun will conceal quite well. Ask me how I know–I can’t carry IWB comfortably either.
+1
I was trying the IWB for a while, but the wife wasn’t 100% on board, and it was a bit of a production trying out all the different rigs. Started carrying a pocket pistol and it was night and day. Didn’t tell her for a few months and sprang it on her fait accompli- all is well in the world. Seriously, sig p238 in a soft holster and it’s gtg in jeans, slacks, whatever.
I like alcohol. Meh.
Drink at home. Drinks are cheaper, less chance of being accosted, and you can watch whatever game you want on the TV. And nobody cares if you gun is open on your hip.
I like them craft beers. Also, I’m decent at hand-to-hand, even if I’m still breaking rule 1 of gunfighting,
If I’m not drinking, I’m packing.
I carry when I want to carry. I don’t live and work in a high threat environment and I don’t mind relying on my situational awareness and soft skills much of the time, but if I’m not actually carrying then that doesn’t mean I don’t have a gun nearby (e.g. glove box, drawer safe or whatever).
^ This.
Wow.
As we can likely all agree, an armed society is a safer, more polite society. My carrying is a benefit not only to me, but to others who are proximal to me.
However, this is only the second time I’ve “heard” someone assert that they needn’t carry because so many others do.
In the places in which I’m particularly glad to be carrying, others who might be are a worry rather than a reassurance. That’s of course where I work rather than where I live.
Interesting perspective.
I live in MD. I applied for a carry permit after we won Woollard, but they delayed and out waited me until they won on appeal. I have a non-resident carry permit from Utah, but while it is good in surrounding states, it isn’t good here. I will have to wait a bit longer.
Like others, I work mostly in a low-risk environment, and am in and out of courthouses and other government buildings on a frequent basis. Honestly, in those instances it’s not worth the hassle.
I also drive a lot (50k+ miles a year) and it’s on the road that I perceive myself being at the most risk. There’s always at least one loaded firearm easily accessible in the vehicle.
Due to being military, there are a ton of hoops for me to jump through to carry legally. I can’t bring it on base even though I live there. So I have to make arrangements to store it off base (no damn way I’m registering and leaving guns at the armory), pick it up when I leave the base, go do my errands or whatever, drop it back off, and return to base. Its not convenient at all and sometimes I don’t bother. Its an open carry state and they’ve taken my right to carry and defend myself with firearms through inconvenience.
I don’t carry….
when I’m naked.
To the new readers who wonder why a videogame review is relevant to the gun culture here: After Sandy Hook there were a lot of emotional statements and points made that may have gotten taken out of context and blown up by the StateRunMedia™ (hey its the trade – “if it doesnt bleed it doesnt lead”).
One of the memes was Adam Lanzas gamer addiction caused him to kill kindergardeners and Wayne LaPierre made an unfortunate refrrdnce to games in one of his pressers too. Col. Dave Grossman author of Bulletproof Mind, and West Point history instructor has made reference to studies on kids who play a loy of violent vide games. So, not to go OT here on that debate, just to explain the tie-in.
The one time I shot someone, it was a home invader with a knife and my weapon was a crossbow.
The bolt hit him with sufficient force to knock him down and the tip protruded an inch or so in back.
There was very little bleeding of course, which is likely why the sh¡t didn’t die, but this was unquestionably [potentially] lethal force.
This was in California, but a crossbow is not a firearm and the coppers were most cordial about it. No charges were filed, although the weapon was taken in evidence and not returned ’til the DA gave a thumbs up.
I’ve always wondered how things would’ve gone had I thrown 3/4″ of lead rather than 14″ of steel?
I live in New Jersey where it is nearly impossible to get a carry permit.
I think there are some important points being glossed over. I’m sure this police officer, by the very fact that he’s bothering to post here, is an honorable man.
But some are not. And even if the cop is honorable, the prosecutor may not be.
If you live in a well to do or middle income neighborhood with low crime rates, then you might be okay chit chatting with the friendly police officer.
But if you live in a bad neighborhood and have tattoos on your face and neck and don’t bathe regularly, the police officer is less likely to believe your story.
I think the general rule should always be to never speak to the cops, because the odds of you finding that honorable cop are pretty low in some jurisdictions.
2. To the main question, no I didng get a deliberate anti-gun take here just gamer critique on what is predictanle and borinv to this writer. If you wanted to know more anout his background a source of hid “voice” as writers say you could read his bio. He an editof of kotaku and been writing on games awhile.
http://kotaku.com/5312465/stephen-totilo-bio
Like others – low threat small rural town. Work forbids it (I work in a courthouse – note of course, the law says the common citizen can carry provided they notify the Sheriff in advance; however we workers are forbidden by law).
Also my wife hates it. She dislikes guns in general, but she’s not “truly” anti-gun. In fact this year when I was going out deer hunting she asked if I was planning on taking the 9mm that sits in the nightstand, stating she feels safer knowing it’s there. She went to the range with me once, had a good time, but has declined every time since, I always make sure to invite her – but never pressure.
The funny thing is the Permit to carry was her idea, She commented on us both getting them. I found us a class, she said bad time for her but that I should do it, so I followed through, she has not.
age and location.
My Dad dose not carry because he does not want to un-tuck his shirt haha been going tucked his whole life. And he has had a carry permit ever since my family moved to Indiana and it became available there.
You’re going to have to tell the cops something, but keep it short (“he attacked me and I had to defend my life”). The evidence at the scene will often speak for itself. Ask to be transported to a hospital. Get your wounds documented. No wounds? Get your heart checked. It’s probably pounding out of your chest. You could have suffered a heart attack and not know it until you drop dead. You can call your lawyer from the ambulance if you haven’t done so already.
I live in CA, but in sacrament county. However, I haven’t been able to afford a proper holster, belt, etc… or the specific firearm I would carry. CA permits need the serial no. Of the gun, so my understanding is that I need that first.
i just cant afford the course or the license thats why i dont carry
And this, dear friends, is why we need to be pushing for the repeal of UNreasonable gun laws. Whenever someone wants to have a discussion about “reasonable gun laws” our immediate response should be: “Ok, if ‘reasonable’ is the standard we’re trying to achieve, our first course of action should be to repeal a bunch of ‘unreasonable’ gun laws.”
I live in MD and whatever reason I have is not good enough for the State and their minions the State Police.
Right now I can’t afford the bribe I’d have to pay to carry in suburban New York.
16 rounds of .45 ACP and you feel like you’re “low on ammo”? Another freakin’ “tactical” cowboy.
I only not carry when I cannot legally or where I have contractually agreed not to carry (my job). Even then I keep my EDC locked in my car. I figure I could probably carry at work and never get found out, but I honor my agreement and figure the statistical likelihood of an active shooter is low enough (and the fact that work on the fourth floor and am near a back stairwell leading to an emergency exit) that I am reasonably safe. I was more likely to get shot in my last job than this one.
I have a Utah, Oregon, and WA state license to carry. That said, I carry selectively. As a Contractor, carrying a weapon on my person on the job is impractical. Keeping a weapon in my service van is standard. If I am working at night, or in high crime areas I keep my 9 with me.. If I travel to any of the States that recognize my Licenses I carry. My wife is in LE and she never carry’s unless I suggest it.
I’m afraid to even travel with guns through MD since they run tags through the system to see if you have a CCW.
You make the assumption other concealed-carriers will swoop in to save you in an emergency. There may be many, but I’m not one of them unless you’re my family or personal friend. I’m not risking my life or my family’s well being for a stranger. I’m not a hero, coward, vigilante or have an inflated sense of being a do-gooder. I just don’t expect others to take car of me, and vice versa.
That being said, I follow all state and local laws; this means 30.06 and 51% signs in TX, as well as federal buildings, schools, arenas, etc. The same applies to my workplace, which does not bar carry for CHLs, but does have a policy against employees carrying on company property. I follow the rules.
Correct.
Matt W may be over-simplifying or conflating “non-systematic” risk (what happens to one holding in a portfolio)
with systematic risk, (what happens to all growth stocks) which can be hedged by “insurance” on the asset class, and portfolio diversification, and which is the basis of actuarial science that makes insurance work for risk pools, vs one insured’ life.
It is true that the socio-political environment of Idaho’s assumed numerous CCWs reduces systematic risk on the AVERAGES, but it does not apply to the non-systematic risk of any one holding.
In other words, what happens to the value of that individual stock if top management is incompetent and unexpectedly goes bankrupt?
Happens to the best of the blue chips- think ML in 2008.
If Matt Ws “portfolio”, as far as his family is concerned, includes his life as its most important asset, then he can mitigate the risk via life insurance, from a black swan, like the shooter in a mall, or car-jacking- which can happen anywhere, even downtown Coeur d’Alene, where all the rich yuppies retire from Washington State.
However, from his perspective- it doesnt change the fact that he is dead.
Never talk to the police unless you have an attorney present.. This is as basic as washing your hands after taking a shit….
I carry. Always. I’m an OFWG with muscular dystrophy. I require meds that are popular for abuse. I intend to die of natural causes. If I’m never threatened, I eke by on SS Disability which is hardly the panacea some make it out to be. If forced to defend myself, and the jury doesn’t like me, I get a gated community with 24 armed security, 3 free meals per day, free use of a gym and library, free cable TV, and lots of company of people who are all innocent as accused. What have I got to lose?
I almost almost feel sorry for them. Then I think about it for a second, and I don’t…
Remember this one?
http://www.pagunblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/BradyPresserEmpty.png
I don’t right now because i work full-time, go to school full-time and spend the precious few hours I have free with my young child. I could not carry 99% of my awake hours legally. Also, as a student I am really poor and it is cost prohibitive to take the neccisary class and pay $100 for the license. Michigan is an open carry state, so if I really need to carry ill do so in that manner. I have seen a few guys doing it here and there; you just really need to make sure it isn’t concealed at all.
Canada. That’s why. Sigh…
I support the second amendment, but…nothing, too. I’ve had my carry “permit” (don’t think I should need one…it’s my right. But I digress…) for almost 10 years, yet I rarely carry. I’m a teacher, so I can’t have a firearm anywhere near work. Can’t leave it locked in the truck…I supposed I could park a ways away in a surrounding neighborhood, but…
So that pretty much takes care of Monday through Friday. Sat and Sun…going to start.
What infuriates me is that I served 6 years in the Army…infantry…have since attended many training sessions, and train on my own…yet I am denied a tool that I could use to save children’s lives if the unthinkable ever happened.
I really need to get off my a$$ and see if I can start changing that politically.
“When two people see each other in these worlds”
No. Two people do not see each other in any world other than this one. No one is shot to death.
A cartoon character than I manipulate simulates killing your cartoon character…sounds a lot less dramatic.
Thanks for the writeup, and for putting yourself through that. I can’t watch the videos right now, but I’m looking forward to seeing what Mr. Placette had to say.
Sorry, can’t help you there. I carry any time I’m not sleeping or in the shower.
I carry everyday unless I think I’m crossing into DC or MD. 99.9% of the time I stay in VA, don’t frequent “bad neighborhoods, and stay out of businesses that are anti-gun. When I carry; I’d say 99% of the time is concealed and 1% is open carry.
After my first DGU, I thought I was statistically immune from it happening again.
Then it happened again.
And again.
And again.
Different places, circumstances, times of day every time.
So, I choose to carry.
Don’t carry, cause….
1. regardless of what you may have read, Hawai’i is not a “may issue” state; it is a “no way in hell” state.
2, it’s hard to carry a Glock 34 concealed in flipflops and shorts.
Gun-grabbers are so churlish and juvenile.
What I want to know is:
1) How will you make sure that all sales between private parties include a background check?
2) If it’s universal registration you want, how will you enforce that?
I have heard “We should register them like cars.” Yeah, and it’s soooo easy for a criminal to tuck a car in his pants. The reason car registration(mostly) works is that cars are big honkin things that aren’t carried and are extremely difficult to conceal. If you drive an unregistered car on the street, it’s pretty obvious, unless you have another plate from another vehicle…
And also, ask why you can’t force drug dealers to sell at the pharmacy instead of the street.
Since the politicians names and addresses have been published in multiple places, groups of 4 or 5 gun owners should get together in each district, go to their politicians home (unarmed) and knock on the door. Just a friendly visit to say “Hi” and we know where you live. Put the fear that God gave us into them and see some results.
Of course a lot of them are demanding “protection”. If I was the CLEO in their AO, I’d tell them no, you made your bed, you lie in it. Why should a copper (that might agree with the gun owners) be put in harms way because politicians don’t have the sense to pour piss out of a boot?
Who said anything about carrying a gun? Just because you asked if I’m carrying doesn’t mean I’m not. I’d iike to think that since I have a brain, and try as much as humanly possible to be alert and aware of my surroundings, that I always have a weapon. Of course, I also have two hands, and two feet, and maybe something handy besides.
Point being, if your head is stuck in the sand it doesn’t much matter what else you have.
Oh, almost forgot….still waiting on my permit. Maybe by the end of the week?
Tom
I live in Cook County,Illinois. I don’t carry YET. I DO carry a knife & a pepper blaster on my person. At this time I only own a shotgun. Right now I can’t afford the possibly $1000 (around $500 for ccl,buying a decent gun,holster,etc) it woud entail. You dont need to carry until need it. AND +1 Phil. Matt W. doesn’t get it.
I carry out, I carry at home. I even use an IWB with my pajama bottoms. With the LCP, I barely notice it’s there. Hell, I could carry this thing in a onesie.
You can’t argue with people that see others exercising rights they don’t like as sub-human.
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OMG!
Laughing uncontrollably now.
Crude as it is, I would have cut a huge one as soon as that picture was over.
Bravo!
… they all agreed that they certainly don’t want to take away anyone’s guns and, of course, they all respect the Second Amendment.
One can be snarky about it, but it is actually a good thing that 2nd Amendment is shown some deference by all sides in the debate nowadays.
I would like to know, however, what legislation those organizations would not support due to its being too extreme. As just one example, if they support 10-round magazine limits as reasonable, does that mean they find the NYC 5-round limit to be extreme and inappropriate? This is not the only issue – other specific questions of this sort can be reasonably asked.
Solid. Gold.
It’s all well and fine that even ideological enemies can be willing to call truce for but a brief moment, but that doesn’t change the fact she’s still a Comment modified. And not merely because she quite literally is; but because the sentiment is completely mutual. Even so, if she has any shred of self-honesty, she has to admit her fear of other peopke carrying a gun has no basis in reality. Too much to hope for? Only time will tell.
Tom
Because if you get caught ignoring any other nanny-state laws while carrying, you end up in jail for a long time.
This would be a great TTAG contest.
Get yourself photographed with a noted gun grabber.
Gun Free zones. If I’m going to one I don’t carry. That means work, my sons school (although I can carry there as long as I don’t get out of the car or leave the weapon unattended in the car), every in door mall in the area, most of the movie theatres ( I try very hard to only go the 1 that’s not a posted gun free zone, but sometimes it cant be helped.) I’ve had my CCW since I retired from the Navy 5 years ago, I carry less than I should because its a huge PITA.
I’m speechless. There’s too much awesome in this picture.
Has MDA made any sort of statement on twitter or Facebook???
Shouldn’t people be standing in their “Stand Strong Connecticut” pictures?
i don’t think so, there are telling the ct people to stand. if it was we stand with you instead of we support you, then yes.
Mr. Brooks,
Should you ever come to the NYC/LI area please look me up. You have 2″ thick Porterhouses and adult beverages waiting for your arrival. This is nothing but epic awesomesauce defined. This amount of winning puts Charlie Sheen to shame. You are indeed the man!
I believe you mean “assault ankle holster”
I salute you Sir!
I don’t know how he refrained from laughing hysterically the whole time
Wow! This is the same thing Massad Ayoob, Rob Pincus and Michael Janich say. Wow isn’t that interesting! All three of these men have been on shows promoting the knowledge of self defense in the practical and legal areas.
I see logic and critical thinking again escape these people. If they did even basic research they would crush their own ideas. Of course they wouldn’t like that so they only take the parts they can skew and warp to fit their failure if an agenda.
/sarc/ He probably was a racist one percenter so her attack was social justice. One more for the good guys, right Bill D, right Shannon, right Mark G? Tell your boss Michael to illustrate this case as successful policy. /sarc/
Disregard this ENTIRE article and go speak with a qualified attorney to determine how you should conduct yourself following a DGU! This article is filled with horrible advice from someone who does not have your interest at heart. A few precious tidbits of his B.S. below:
“This is important…if the facts indicate a lawful gun use, NO crime has been committed and NO probable cause to arrest exists. For this to occur the shooter has to provide certain facts to the police.”
B.S. The law isn’t science. Facts exist, but so do lies, hedges, prejudices, opinions, and interpretations. A different detective, prosecutor, judge, or jury could look at the same “facts” and come to a different conclusion. Not only is nothing that the shooter tells police regarded as fact, even if 100% true, it’s not even admissible in your defense because it’s hearsay. It can only be used against you (that’s why it’s in your Miranda warnings) to impeach your credibility.
Ultimately, it’s the prosecution’s responsibility to prove both that a crime has been committed and that you committed it, as well as to overcome any legal defense (justification, necessity, etc.) you may present, but which you are not obligated to present. It’s NOT your job as the shooter to explain anything to the police and overcome any default presumption that you’re guilty of a crime. It’s the exact opposite, which is what presumption of innocence means. Tell your story to your lawyer and let him/her talk to the police. Your lawyer is your legal buffer zone.
“If you don’t answer some basic questions or give some basic information, you are part of a homicide investigation, not a defensive gun use.”
B.S. You’re ALREADY part of a homicide investigation the instant someone died at your hands. That’s the very definition of “homicide.” That why they their title is “Homicide Detective”, not “Let’s-Go-Take-a-Look-Ask-Some-Questions-and-Figure-Out-What-Kind-of-Investigation-This-Whole-Dead-Guy-Killed-by-Someone-Else-Situation-Might-Be Detective.” What this cop is saying is that unless you forfeit your rights, particularly 4th through 7th amendments, they’re going to assume you’re guilty and do their level best to railroad you. Anyone with that posture is going to try to do that, anyway, so don’t make their illegal job easier by waiving your rights.
“The point is: if you use a firearm in self defense, the burden of proof is on you. The state simply has to prove you shot somebody. You have to show it was lawful self defense.”
B.S. The simple fact of you having shot somebody isn’t sufficient for a conviction. The State has to prove a culpable mental state. In Texas, there are four culpable mental states (intentional, knowing, reckless, and criminal negligence) and they correspond, with some overlap, to the severity of the homicide crime (capital murder, murder, manslaughter, or criminally negligent homicide.)
I could go on with this, but what I’ve written here should be sufficient to sway you to seek independent, qualified legal advise and not to rely on this cop, this agent of the state, to tell you what you should do.
The Walmart near me hasn’t had 9mm on their shelves in over a year. When last I spoke with the salesclerk she explained the shipment comes in the night before and goes on the self in the morning.all I had to do was call each night and be in line the next day. “All the regulars do this.” Seems there’s a small group that will buy out the shipment as some as it comes out.
I do not carry because I don’t feel I’m skilled enough to hit my target reliably enough. I rarely have the time for practice and until very recently (last couple months) I haven’t been able to get ammo anyway. Getting to the range for practice is usually a major ordeal–if I want to go, I have to take time off work to go.
I also do not own a pistol that’s appropriate for concealed-carry.
Very postcard-esque… and in a good way.
It’s hard reading that people in free states don’t carry when they can, especially when people in slave states would give anything to be able to carry.
Proposal: carry for the greater good, carry because they are stopping your brother from carrying
Having lost all his clothes, moved into a crappy efficiency, transformed into a small immigrant boy, and traded Champion for a bicycle and drugs, Gene Autry finally hit rock bottom.
God made this woman. Satan ruined her. And one of Sam Colt’s handguns would have left her satisfactorially ventilated.
’cause my permit hasn’t arrived yet.
“Work” boots. Ironic.
I live in a permission slip state and refuse to ask permission.
Not sure how to phrase this one, so I’ll just run it up the flagpole and see who salutes. I won’t say I carry – I won’t say I don’t carry. I wonder how many folks actually see a GFZ sign and say to themselves “oh darn – I must run back to my vehicle and secure my concealed firearm (operative word there “concealed”), versus how many folks never even notice the signs?
I know it’s an issue when one must pass through some sort of security checkpoint, obviously. On the other hand, every time I read about this particular subject, I’m reminded of the old saw “would you rather be judged by 12, or carried by 6?”.
So, thoughts?
Le sigh. This thread has become…*puts on shades*
Watted down.
YEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH
Watched the movie on Friday night with some friends. Drove me crazy that they would enter pirate infested waters unarmed (excuse me, armed with water hoses that can “sink those skiffs”).
The maersk alabama appears to be a shit magnet.
“…the armed guards repelled the pirates before they could board the ship. A better result for everyone concerned (except, of course, the pirates).”
I dunno, I imagine it was a better result for them too compared to what happened when they got sealed.
Yes. And, what happened to the old understanding, that to teach an evil man a lesson amounted to doing him good?
Armed security repelling pirates isn’t exactly news…
It’s extremely commonplace and many ships transiting high risk water do so with armed security contractors onboard. British security companies seem to have the market cornered on this right now.
As differentiated from true impersonation…?
That said, something like that should be shoot on sight – the expression says it all.
Ugh! Yuck! Bleah!
I live in ny. I’ve had a carry permit since I was 22. I carry every day and have only had one instance that I had to put my hand on my gun to prevent a crime. My mother was in a school that suffered a school shooting, when I was in college every person I lived with was held up at gun point once and two of them twice, that was Washington d.c., my mother’s school is in upstate ny. Don’t assume that because u feel safe you are, as was said above eat exercise be aware of your surroundings but if u can legally, carry you don’t know what each day will bring.
I’m late to the party here but this reminded me of a situation where a ankle holster might actually have been handy. I live in KY and the CCW law here allows me to carry almost anywhere, including private businesses that put up “no guns” signs. They of course still have the legal right to toss me out should they discover I have a firearm, but you’d have to be pretty blatant about it, or, as I found out, try to go to a movie “screening”.
There is a internet site that will send you free tickets to various movies before release as a kind of advertising or “review” process I guess. Regardless, the wife and I went to one of these and I quickly discovered while in line they were *wanding* people on the way into the theater. After watching for a second I discovered it was an attempt to keep cell phones/video recorders out of the theatre. Still not a good thing if your carrying. I went to the restroom and moved my keltec pf9 and holster to the small of my back and “went for it” lol! My pf9 didn’t get discovered but dumb me left my extra magazine in my pocket and that did set off the wand. The nice man wanding people asked me to empty my pockets and I responded “no”. After a moment of stunned silence he said I would HAVE to empty my pockets and I responded “not, not really, I don’t” “goodbye”. And walked off leaving him very very confused. We went and bought a ticket and watched something else. Lol
Anyway, having an ankle holster. Then could have been useful.
It would be cheaper IMHO to provide a government for that area, to stem illegal toxic dumping which kills off the marine life that provide food and income… apparently “Pirates” ask for SHOES a lot of the time, just basic footwear, anything. The ocean is routinely used as a corporate toilet by ships because there IS no government to complain about the practice. I have no problem shooting “pirates” but this is like living in a neighborhood with an abandoned house, it’s a location that’s going to attract trouble and it’s cheaper in the long run to keep it cleaned up rather than let it fester.
Boy, Ms Watts sure looks different in real life.
Her “Official” photos are obviously heavily retouched and very carefully posed. Numerous studies have shown that attractive people have more powers-of-persuasion over others – which explains why they would want to perform such photo trickery.
I would never had known the above photo was actually her.
** “Re: Ad hominum attack deletion” – I’ve watered down my comment to be politically correct and unoffensive. I hope this version is acceptable to the “feelings police”.
Though I don’t know why you are worried about MDA reading what people think of their dear leader… It’s not like they aren’t calling gun-owners names… constantly!
I wasn’t even stooping to their level (many of them have called all gun-owners maniacs; murderers; child-killers; Yosemite Sam’s; hicks; rednecks; penile-deficient over-compensators; scum; “cling onto their bibles & guns” etc.) – but merely describing her true-to-life facial features.
I can guarantee they aren’t removing negative comments about gun-owners over there. So why tie our hands behind our back? Are we not allowed to fight back in this war – and it is a war they are waging on us.
The review is very good to point out the flaws of the J-Frame in 357 Magnum – something you don’t often see in reviews where the gun is supplied by the manufacturer. While the S&W J-Frame design is fine for standard 38 Special loads, in 357 Magnum, everything the S&W Model 60 does, the 357 Magnum Ruger SP101 (in 2.25,” 3,” and 4″ barrels) does much better.
The 4″ SP101 has adjustable sights like the 3″ Model 60, and a gunsmith can add adjustable sights to the 2.25″ and 3″ if desired. The SP101 design is simply stronger than the Model 60 side-plate design, and the gun will not wear out in the average owner’s lifetime of shooting 38 +P or factory .357 Magnum.
Any mechanical engineer or technician will tell you that the S&W side-plate revolver design is simply weaker than Ruger’s double action revolver design (SP101 & GP100) – unless is is beefed up substantially with more metal in the stress areas as on the larger frame S&W revolvers. There isn’t any informed debate about this. The J-Frame just isn’t up to the 357 Magnum task. S&W really shouldn’t have ever chambered the J-Frame for 357 Magnum. It just isn’t strong enough for the thousands of 357 rounds a regular “every-other-month” range shooter might put through the gun over many years. It’s fine for 38 Special and perhaps Special +P, but no more than that. And while the SP101 is stronger, it only weighs an ounce or two more than the same barrel sized Model 60.
Any handy person can also take apart the SP101 to the three subassemblies for complete cleaning and lubrication with the instructions in the Ruger own’er’s manual. With the Model 60, owner disassembly is not advised.
For $20 total, an easy-to-install Wolff or Wilson Combat 10-lb hammer spring (from Midway, Brownells, and others) and a shim set (sold by a gunsmith on eBay) can be purchased to make the SP101 trigger as good as the Model 60. And a very light polishing of the internal parts with metal polishing compound (without removing any significant metal) makes things even better. Easy instructions for this are available on the Net or any decent gunsmith can do the whole business even better for about $50 total.
Ruger also used to make 2.25″ (and I think 3″) short barrel six-shot 22LR versions of the SP101, which were great for low-cost practice and training new shooters. I have one of those as well as a 357 Magnum SP101. I believe the newer 22LR SP101 is eight-shot and has a 4″ barrel. I wish they still made the 22LR snub nose too.
Some people may like the feel of the Model 60 over the SP101. I’d advise trying them both in the store with snap caps and even at a store range if possible. They do feel different in the hand even when similar four-finger decent grips are installed. But be advised that you should should stick to 38 Special and 38 +P to avoid future problems. For most self defense applications 38 +P is fine. However, If you really want to be able to shoot 357 Magnum in a small frame revolver (like for a hiking gun in black bear territory), the SP101 is the only rational choice currently available.
I have owned the TS NBD 870 for 2yrs now. Great look to it. Lightweight and less cumbersome than your $1k plus o/u. The 12ga is a workhorse. Used it in S.Texas for Whitewing, it is a very accurate shot with 7 and halves or 8 shots. Love cleaning it and making those gorgeous details just sparkle. I am looking forward to shooting it in Eastern PA for buck season and for waterfowl, dove, growse, and the abundant pheasant up here as well. I have purchased several rifle slugs by Winchester and will open fire at a range as soon as the snow thaws. More than likely I will be impressed with the #4 and 5 choke. We shall see. Has anyone else shot this with a rifled slug? Recommended chokes?
The only setback so far is being limited to my warranty options as the nearest Academy (an exclusive dealer/store this TEXAN greatly loves) is a good 2 or 3 states away. Oh, and there is only one brand rocking the extender chokes for Yildiz. A pricey brand in my opinion.
Overall, this is a MUST HAVE in your gun collection.
Why does that vacuum cleaner have a red dot on it?
That the new Dyson?
Ha!
It creeps me out every time that British guy says “suction.”
I find it quite interesting that those with experience with homicide investigations and self defense cases in court are in general agreement with the article, and those with no experience one way or another are the ones saying STFU and say nothing.
Am I wrong about that? Anyone above saying “the article is wrong” or actually been party to an investigation?
The term “geezer science” comes to mind…
I have a Gen4 23 and I’ve tried a few 3.5 lb connectors (ghost and lone wolf) and while it reduced the trigger weight a bit, it made it unbelievably mushy. I took them out. I’m reluctant to try another. Does anyone have a tip for me and my Gen4 23?
-D
I was thinking that a nonviolent protest of 10, maybe 20,000 people (the more the better) camped out around the statehouse while the Legislature was in session for say a week, maybe more, lots of drums, tents, chants, etc. might be persuasive to those numb nuts. Lots of signs with the names of those who voted for the ban. Schedule it just before the election.
I am a human weapon. I do carry occasionally but I can kill just as easily with my hands. I suppose I have trained more with them than with my pistols.
You have to realize that politicians are nothing but con-men(women). A good con artist knows when the con is blown. They’ve ridden this anti-gun horse as far as they could. The smart ones will now flip the other direction, if they’re allowed to. I say allowed to because I don’t think anyone gets elected to a position of authority at the federal, state, or large metropolitan level without being wholly owned. I have a nickel that says if you scraped away all the b.s. G.W.’s top 100 campaign donors and O’Bummer’s top 100 are the same.
The standard issue police officer doesn’t receive Obscene amounts of bribe, er lobby, money. I believe any stupid door to door order will, most likely, be ignored. If this foolishly comes to violence, then I say no holds barred. Not only do gun owners outnumber libertyphobes, but, uh, we have guns.
Unlike most people, I don’t have a huge problem with you trying to give me a free gun and will gladly take their entries. My only request is that you at least write a new paragraph each time you re-post it. Acknowledge the awkwardness/(mild) annoyance and embrace it!
How about a ‘limit on free speech for politicians’ that goes something like this:
They can speak all they want, they just have to agree to wear the “Facilator 100000” – If it detects a lie, it shocks the wearer with 100K volts.
If nothing else, C-Span would quickly become a new reality TV show. 😀
So, the lady that outright lies all the time is calling the guy that lied by omission once a “Liar”?
Sounds like my first marriage.
Also, that “secretly armed” thing is too funny…
You know, there’s a name for that, it’s called “Concealed Handgun” as in “State of Texas, Concealed Handgun License.”
Wow TTAG writers are:
Misogynists
Stalkers
Insurrectionists
and now Cripple Haters
Keep up the good work!
//sarc//
You need to be Russian Oligarch, yes.
http://fuchsfineguns.com/index.php/fuchs/?lang=ru
SPC has two campuses with the Gibb’s campus being the larger of the two. Anyone that is leaving a firearm in their vehicle now just uses off street parking, which is readily available.
This article is just a bunch of pants-wetting liberal nonsense. The paper is going to become irrelevant since it’s heading into bankruptcy:
http://tbo.com/news/business/tampa-bay-times-finances-strained-20140301/
I think the word “militia” carries a negative image in our country today. Most people here the word militia and immediately think about a group of people living in a compound who don’t want any form of government and wear camoflouge and claim to be better trained than the military and other armed professionals.
At the same time it would behoove us as a country to reinstate a militia to be used in a purely defensive role. There would have to be requirments similar to enlisting in the military, and they could have a training schedule similar to the Reserve or Nat’l Guard.
In all reality we have a “militia” with the growing number of PMCs in America.
I always carry…unless:
A) I will be physically or electronically searched for weapons where I am going. Or,
B) I have to dress in a tucked in button-up and cant conceal. Then I try to have a backpack with my P30 inside. If I am wearing a blazer/jacket obviously I still carry OWB/IWB.
I really wish SC had Open or Constitutional Carry!