In his post-Newtown push for civilian disarmament, President Obama continues to pay lip service to the Second Amendment. The former Constitutional scholar would have you believe that he only wants to ban/confiscate/eliminate certain types of guns. To say he’s being disingenuous would be like saying Mini Anden has nice legs. Seven words: by thy deeds thy shall be known. Obama’s actions as a legislator spoke volumes about his feelings on Americans’ right to keep and bear arms. Senator Obama’s statements on the campaign trail weren’t any more reassuring. Let’s review . . .
- Obama opposed a bill in the Illinois legislature which would have protected homeowners from weapons charges if they used an “illegal” gun in self-defense.
- In a primary debate in 2008, Obama, the candidate, stated that the Second Amendment confers an individual right, but (there’s always a big ‘but’ where the Second Amendment is concerned) the fact that it’s an individual right “does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right”. In addition, for a supposed constitutional scholar to state that the Bill of Rights confers rights, rather than protects pre-existing rights is also worrisome.
- When running for the Illinois senate in 1996, Obama most assuredly did fill out a questionnaire (despite his later claims that a staffer did it) in which he unequivocally supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns, a ban on the possession of ‘assault weapons’ and waiting periods before purchasing a firearm.
- Need I mention the whole “bitter clingers” episode?
- Although he claimed to respect the Second Amendment, he also said that the D.C. gun ban (banning all handguns and operable long guns) was constitutional. When pressed for his rationale, he said there was nothing wrong with a community establishing their own “reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure[s]” while still respecting the Second Amendment. Did you catch that? A complete ban is his idea of a reasonable gun control measure that respects the Second Amendment.
- In the Illinois legislature, he supported licensing and registering gun owners as a measure to keep unlawful guns off the street. This purported constitutional scholar was apparently unaware that the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in U.S. v. Haynes that criminals don’t need to register (and can’t be punished for failing to register) their guns because it would be a violation of their right against self-incrimination.
- In 2000 Obama cosponsored a bill to limit gun purchases to one per month and in 2003 he voted in favor of HB 2579 which had the same one gun per month provision.
- According to a Chicago Defender article in December of 1999, “Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home.”
- At an NAACP forum in 2007 Obama stated “We’ve got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren’t loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they’re not made in our communities.” What? He really thinks that federally licensed gun dealers are loading up vehicles and selling guns out of the trunk in the inner cities?
- In the Illinois senate he supported a confiscatory ‘assault weapons’ ban which would have included semi-auto shotguns and even some pump, double and single barrel shotguns.
- As a Presidential candidate he called for passage of H.R. 6257, deceptively titled “Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008″ which would have explicitly banned far more weapons than the Clinton AWB (note that this was before the Newtown, Aurora and Gabby Giffords shootings).
- As a Senator, Obama voted against prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers and voted in favor of an amendment to that bill which would have banned most rifle ammunition, under the guise of banning ‘armor-piercing’ ammunition.
- As a Senator Obama did not sign the amicus brief supporting the individual rights view in Heller v. DC.
- Obama voted to ban gun stores within five miles of a school or park, which would have eliminated most gun stores in America.
- He supported legislation to “close the gun show loophole” which would have imprisoned show organizers if a single person at a show offered a gun for sale privately.
- As a Senator, Obama stated he supported a federal ban on concealed carry laws and as a Presidential candidate he told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review “‘I am not in favor of concealed weapons,’ Obama said. ‘I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations.’”
On his first day in office, on the White House website, under “Urban Policy” you could find:
Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.
See above regarding how little the Obama AWB resembles the Clinton-era AWB. When he talks about keeping guns away from children, what he’s really talking about are various blue-sky proposals to make guns “childproof.”
And who can forget the Obama Administration’s employment questionnaire? Question 59: “Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”
Once Obama had settled into power, there were more ‘indicators’ of his anti-gun feelings:
- In March, 2009 the DoD ‘revised’ its policy on the disposal of once-fired brass. Instead of selling it to consumers and domestic agencies for reloading, all once-fired brass from the military would be shredded and sold as scrap. This policy was reversed fairly quickly after outraged shooters contacted their legislators and Senators Tester and Baucus (both D-MT) faxed a letter to the DoD asking them to change the policy. The fact that Senator Tester was Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee might have had something to do with the quickvolte-face.
- The DHS report, Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment [.pdf] which cited as a key finding: “The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”
- In April of 2009, President Obama announced he wanted the Senate to ratify the Inter-American Convention Against The Illicit Manufacturing Of And Trafficking In Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, And Other Related Materials(called by its Spanish acronym of CIFTA for obvious reasons). A close look at the Definitions section of the treaty reveals that it would require a government license for “the manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials”. That doesn’t sound too bad, right? I mean we sort of have that now, don’t we? But the devil, as I so often say, is in the details. Or, in this case, the definitions, because the way they’re written, you could be required to get a government license to reload ammo, add or change out a scope on a rifle, replace a factory trigger with an upgraded one, or even so much as load a weapon. Preposterous you say? Look at how they define “other related materials.” Go ahead, I’ll wait. Back? Okay, when they say “any component, part, or replacement part of a firearm, or an accessory which can be attached to a firearm” you think an anti-gun administration wouldn’t say that applies to magazines and ammo? So – technically – putting rounds in a mag or a mag in a weapon would constitute “assembly” which would require a license. So how much will the license cost? What will the application process be? Will it be “shall-issue” or “may-issue”? How long will it be good for? How much will it cost to renew? All of these details could be used to drastically reduce gun ownership.
- The Obama administration reversed a decision to import over 800,000 surplus M-1 rifles and carbines from South Korea. Not only are these weapons of some historical significance, but their arrival on the market would reduce prices on these sorts of weapons, at least in the short term. The rationale (or perhaps rationalization would be a better term) given to the South Korean government for the decision was that the administration “was also worried the weapons could be smuggled to terrorists, gangs or other people with bad intentions.” That tells us something interesting. Since all of these rifles would have been sold through FFLs, the Obama administration is saying they believe every firearm sale in the country could put guns in the hands of “terrorists, gangs or other people with bad intentions.” And they call us paranoid.
- Even before being offered the fig leaf of Newtown, the Obama administration directed the CDC to do an end-run around the decade-old prohibition on using federal funds to press an anti-gun agenda by maintaining they are not researching the gun issue, “rather they deal with the surrounding web of circumstances.” When Republicans in Congress questioned why money was being spent on these sorts of studies, an NIH spokesman replied “Gun-related violence is a public health problem – it diverts considerable health care resources away from other problems and, therefore, is of interest to NIH.” But wait, aren’t you supposed to do the studies before you come to the conclusion that guns have a net negative impact on public health? See, coming to conclusions and then ginning up research to support them is what got Congress to implement the ban in the first place.
- Fast & Furious and the whole “90% of illegal weapons in Mexico come from the U.S.” with the subsequent unlawful and unconstitutional long gun sales reporting requirement implemented by the ATF via bureaucratic fiat, to say nothing of AG Holder’s contempt for and contempt of Congress. And please, don’t even try to say “But Bush did it first!” Under oath, Attorney General Holder stated that he would not equate F&F with Operation Wide Receiver.
- Under the Obama administration the ATF suddenly reversed a forty-two year old ruling, stating that “[t]he temporary assignment of a firearm by an FFL to its unlicensed agents, contractors, volunteers, or any other person who is not an employee of the FFL, even for bona fide business purposes, is a transfer or disposition for purposes of the Gun Control Act” which then requires that the transfer be processed by an FFL, complete with NICS check and a 4473, lengthening the transfer process considerably.
Well look at that: a consistent record of anti-firearms freedom statements, policies, votes and administrative fiats. So don’t be fooled. Your guns are in President Obama’s crosshairs. ALL your guns.
[Thanks to TTAG author Bruce Krafft for preparing the above list.]
I support universal background checks on kitchen knives, chainsaws, gasoline…. why not if we are going to do background checks on one setof TOOLS? Let us not forget what guns truly are… tools, nothing more… why do we need any background checks at all? Do they do anything other than increase the price of a gun by giving us a false sense of security?
That’s about the size and the shape of it, and half the country voted for this anti freedom politician. Just wait until the UN Arms Treaty hits in full effect. Oh well, at least we have a balanced budget, good access to off shore oil, and a strong domestic economy. Not.
Yeah, are we looking forward to shooting just below those sky blue helmets, OR WHAT?
Yeah, the Republicans had to really work at it to be even more repulsive to voters. Imagine what might have happened if they’d run a competent campaign.
This can’t be true. My union buddies told me so!
TTAG should conduct a poll on how many of their readers voted for Obama. I bet the number is higher than we think, sadly.
Total confiscation will come thru a economic crises this countrys never seen before.
So, what you’re saying is, Obama doesn’t like guns now and he never did? SAAY WHAATTT?
The comparison to drug war is apt when one considers that marijuana is a weed that grows wild through the country.
Furthermore, the “gun” you build in a garage doesn’t necessarily have to be all that good. The WWII Liberator was a single shot .45 caliber pistol manufactured with the idea that you only need one well placed bullet in order to secure a better weapon.
The ideal design would be a single shot, pipe barrel, 12 ga weapon. All you need is one or two rounds of 12 ga and the rest is easy and cheap.
It’s even easier than that to make a gun to get a better gun…
http://youtu.be/7Va87gB_4AI
and
http://youtu.be/Rh0SXBtT_lA
By the way I am NOT the guy in the first video despite the scary similar appearance.
@ RF – where’s the bullet point where TTAG told all of us that already knew this that we were paranoid before this last election? 🙂 Sorry, but I’m still going to rub some salt into that wound so it scars up and is not forgotten.
Thank you Cranky Buddah. I like your online name.
“ultimately, the only possible outcome of gun control is the disarmament law abiding citizens; leaving guns in the hands of the criminals and the government.” Another possible outcome are for many current law abiding citizens to become non-law abiding citizens of unconstitutional laws.
To effectively use a gun it must have ammunition. If ammunition manufacture and distribution is controlled or banned along with access to what are currently legal and available (when not out of stock) re-loading equipment and supplies, then what? I’ve read a few articles on making guns at home yet none on how to make ammo casings, bullets, and powder when you cannot buy those materials through a retail operation.
That’s one part of police work that will always be difficult for the public to understand – what the call comes out as, and what it actually IS. Some folks panic at a fender bender, some at a trauma scene, and a few don’t. In a panic situation, police officers are often dealing with erroneous information. I’m not excusing police mistakes, merely commenting on experiences that I have had, and possibly explaining away a little of the suspicion all around that police have when responding to emergencies.
Good story and thanks for sharing.
Why will bans not “work”? We should not be telling ourselves such lies. Bans will most likely work, and work well (at least as long as people fear the consequences of violating a total ban more than they fear the consequences of not having a gun)
NFA weapons prove the point–they’re so expensive and so tightly regulated that they’re as close to being illegal as something legal can be. NFA devices are rarely used in crimes and most of us here bend over backwards to distance ourselves from condoning ANY firearm modifications that may impinge on NFA territory.
Sure, the knowledge is out there for anyone to manufacture a silencer, chop off a rifle bbl to less than 16″ or to fashion a full auto sear…but most people agree to agree that the benefits of doing any of these things do not justify the risk of ending up in the Federal Pen.
> most people agree to agree that the benefits of
> doing any of these things do not justify the risk
> of ending up in the Federal Pen.
Fear of the Federal Pen is mightier than our words.
Full-auto NFA weapons are rarely used in crimes, but plenty of sawed off shotties and SBRs are routinely seized by cops. It’s not the know-how isn’t out there… it’s just that your average criminal doesn’t possess the intelligence and resources to mod his weapon to full auot.
In the infamous 1997 North Hollywood shootout that later inspired the movie HEAT, the robbers used illegally modified AR-15 / AKM rifles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
Geez people, don’t be so paranoid! that was then, this is now, listen to the words coming out of his mouth, he respects the second amendment and he’s not trying to take our guns away, (head shake and eye roll).
Oh, wait a minute! What was the saying about what you can tell when a politicians lips are moving?
“And sentenced to life in prison.”
Your tax dollars at work.
As far as I’m concerned, this woman should have been DRT. The entire system would have been better served if she had chosen to shoot it out with the responding officers, preferably with her still-empty revolver. A couple hours of paperwork, and everyone moves on. Instead, the taxpayers are paying for her to be alive for the next 20 years.
Alternately, since she’s illegal, take her to the nearest international border and drop her off. If that international border happens to be twelve miles offshore, well… sorry, you should have shot someone in Montana.
Officer Hernandez,
I don’t know how you and your colleagues do what you do every day, but I for one appreciate it!!
Interesting your’s was approved with “Sparrow” as the model. Mine had to be sent back to the dealer and corrected as “22 Sparow SS”
That also caused them to hold onto my 9mm Gem-Tech until the problem was fixed. For reasons I don’t understand. The forms were sequentialy numbered.
The Supreme Court ruled in Bailey v. U.S., 11-770 that you can not be detained miles from your house when they are searching your home with a warrant. This is just one of many rights the ATF and Home land security violated. Robert Adams I hope you turn out to be David and slay this Goliath
Pirro was a really tough prosecutor back in Westchester County, NY, when she was the DA. You can see why she was so effective. And she still looks good at 61. 🙂 But when she ran for state attorney general, she lost to Andrew F^cking Cuomo, the current governor. 🙁
man, she could prosecute me anytime. I’ve been very bad.
Incitatus comes to mind.
He was Caligula’s favorite horse, and he proposed to make him a consul in the Roman Senate.
It was either a sign of Caligula’s madness.
Or it was a sign of Caligula’s contempt for the impotent Roman Senate, effectively saying: “This horse makes more sense to me than this group of idiots!”
Either way works for me.
instead of speaking truth to power, he grabs the easiest scapegoat.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-2012/Gangs-and-Politicians-An-Unholy-Alliance/
The cynic in me wants to say the writers are liberals, but
we can all hope. Liberals tend to be impervious to logic,
irony and hypocrisy, so it’s entirely possibly that, if liberal,
they couldn’t see any parallels.
This is who we need in office. I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
Confidence in Liberal occupied IL….. ROFL!!! Now THAT is funny……
I’ve yet to see anyone “elected” in IL that isnt a crook/own agenda type of person…
They just need to annex $hitcago, and be done with it… Think the county as a whole would be better off IMHO….
[The victim’s famous last words, no doubt spoken in a confident, masculine manner, were, “B*tch, if you’re going to kill me, just f**king kill me!”]
Truth is stranger than fiction… and that is some straight up, hardc0re, crazy ish.
Thanks for your service, and for the interest piece, Mr. Hernandez.
“Since we’re making up a list of things we think should not exist, I propose a ban on any show hosted by Piers Morgan. I mean, come on, for goodness sake, there’s only so much we can take, and no one should ever have to die of boredom.”
+1
Looks like Bill Ruger struck back from the grave. Only screaming chicken in the vid was Nutn’s response letter from Bill back in the 90’s that he waved in front of the camera 🙂
Awesome. This video just convinced me to buy a mini 14.
The sad thing is – some idiot probably just misinterpreted it as a pro gun-control song and just posted it to facebook.
I would have liked to see footnotes on all of these. I can’t pass them along to former media colleagues without that documentation, and I don’t have the time to fact check each one. There are a lot of reporters who really would like to be educated on this stuff, but “our” “side” coming up with lists of undocumented (ahem) facts simply won’t be very useful to those of us in the trenches.
want to know why?
Because they’re owned by five major corporations.
Done. End of discussion.
If you need help understanding that concept, then you probably shouldnt be able to vote…(but i support your dumbass right to 😉
FOAD. No seriously.
I was only able to watch for about a minute before I had to stop the video. I am so sick of these hacks getting this media attention. This person did nothing but “Artistically” recreate a terrible incident in order to emotionally coerce people into buying into the whole civilian disarmament movement. People like this make me sick. This is nothing but propaganda.
Are there as many guns in the hands of Americans as the rest of the UN combined? Our military, police, etc are not likely to turn on us. That’s family against family. Not likely to happen. (fingers crossed) Considering the guns in our homes, the ones somewhat easily accessible still in the gun shops… At the manufacturing warehouses. I do believe come hell and high water, even the gangsters and popo would stand together against an invading force of any nature.
For a tyrannical dictator, Obama has done a terrible job of confiscating ANYONE’s weapons. It’s been over 2,000 days and he has not sent the troops to my house yet, and I don’t think they’ve actually gone to anyone’s house. Perhaps the patriots on this site have kept him at bay.
Yet here we are years later with Zero gyb legislation passed under Obama. Lol