http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieX8ftcYAm8
“For years the Nikon camera company has been synonymous with wildlife photography,” dailymail.co.uk recalls. “Stunning images of animals are used to promote its products, features on top wildlife photographers appear on its website and the firm even sponsors several global conservation projects. So it may come as quite a shock to animal lovers to discover that the Japanese manufacturer also produces a rifle scope specifically designed to be used for big game hunting in Africa.” Shock? Actually, the headline says fury. (Which is better than furry but there you go.) Evidence? One Italian wildlife photographer’s moaning: “Stefano Unterthiner, winner of the Wildlife Photographer of the year in 2008, himself a user of Nikon cameras has now condemned the firm for producing such a product.” Now that’s what I call a damp squib. For now.
Amen to that Church for that sign.
I’ll have to watch this again and listen. I got caught up with Kay’s shooting stance.
I visited that store twice about 3 years apart. The first time, the guy was friendly but not extremely knowledgeable. The second time I walk in and say I am looking for this and this; he responds by saying why both guns are horrible and they don’t carry them. I did not even respond, I just turned around and walked out. Another local store got my money, and has continued to satisfy.
Pentax and Leica make scopes too.
I truly hope BFDF is successful. This guys elitist arrogance should be enough to do him in.
In other news, Hohner makes harmonicas….
Did anyone, including Mr. Farago, actually read the article? Like the bit where the controversy is not about Nikon making rifle optics per se, but a marketing campaign that invokes African trophy hunting, which is arguably pretty bad? No?
No, it’s not bad. Trophy hunting is the game management technique of choice for countries that would like to be able to hold onto wildlife habitat and couldn’t afford to do so without hunters. And the meat is never wasted. It feeds the impoverished.
In England, where nobody is allowed to have guns, the government employs game wardens to slaughter animals for management purposes. Is that any better?
No.
African trophy hunting is heavily regulated nowadays and I don’t see the problem. Many of those countries welcome the fat cash hunters bring in every year and therefore have a vested interest in keeping the populations healthy. A portion of that cash goes straight back to conservation. Google around and see what the total prices are for trophy hunting in Africa.
A ten day trip for cape buffalo in the Zambezi Valley will run you close to $20,000 if you bag one.
http://www.chifutisafaris.com/images/pdf/pricing/2013/10%20DAY%20CAPE%20BUFFALO%20AND%20PLAINS%20GAME.pdf
We are always glad to have people strengthen our cause in Texas. I’m sure you know Austin is an anti’s breeding ground, I only mention it cause someone has to walk to the hornet’s nest to enact some pest control…
Otherwise I suggest my city, San Antonio! Love this place.
What. Never use consignment? Really?
The problem is C&C not consigning a firearm. I have been very happy with the consignment guns I have sold. Every single time I have sold a gun the consignment store has given me their estimate of how much the gun would sell for, but they will put any price on the gun I want (even if overpriced). Then they detail what their percentage is for the transaction and if there is any “negotiation room” on the price. There are no surprises on either side, and this is how it has been handled every time I have consigned a gun.
While I feel sorry for Mr. Hammon’s loss, it sounds like he handed them a pile of guns and hoped it would work out. From the details of the article he did not set the price for each gun or set negotiation amount. Compounding the fact that he chose his vendor badly.
Why consign rather than “do the legwork”? First off I don’t have a lot of free time to deal with filling out classified ads and scheduling inspections of the guns I am selling. Also, I don’t want strangers coming into my house and seeing my gun safe setup. On the other hand, the gun store I use (Gretta’s Guns in Simi Valley, CA) has a excellent website for potential buyers and a lot of foot traffic, so I feel they move the guns faster and sell them for more that I could (pre gun ban panic). I don’t have to deal with lowballers, looky-loos and general riff raff. They cover the FFL transfer with no hassle to me. I get a call after the gun sells that they have a check for me. The split is 70% of the sale price to me and the store keeps 30%. For the convenience, I am happy to give them 30% of the sale.
Why not sell to a gun store? Most of my local gun stores (Los Angeles) only give 50% of the appraised value on a sale.
I feel the title of the article is flat out wrong and the advice I feel is misguided. There is nothing wrong with consigning a firearm, just choose a reputable vendor.
My $.02
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Dr. Ivo Obama is at it again.
“HILARY! BIDEN! GO GET THOSE CONSERVATIVES!”
Kind of creepy screen cap. I think I have seen a similiar picture someplace else (diferent face, same gesture). Just saying.
I’m with them all the way as well! I just hope the legislators can’t use tax money to defend themselves. They should have to dig into their own pockets.
Pet Peeve: Obama and Company using my tax dollars against me.
Obama is a Fu#ktard Can we remove his face to?
What is interesting about this debate is that each and every amendment in the Bill of Rights has public safety implications, including the first amendment. I can find a spreadsheet of spree killers over on motherjones, a veritable score sheet for the next adam lanza. Should that be hard to get or censored? Would it make it harder or impossible for the next spree killer to do his/her business?
I like all my civil liberties thank you very much and when it comes to the first, I tend to think that sunlight is the best disinfectant.
I see the points about not giving them notoriety and so forth. But how can we have free discourse if we speak about They Who Must Not Be Named as if they were demonic spirit and calling them out made you vulnerable to demonic possession. They were/are all mortal human beings. Evil human beings, yes, but human beings who’s would be just as dead had an armed citizen ventilated them first. The focus needs to be on how the stop the next one from joining their perverted little club. Know Thy Enemy.
25 bones headed to Colorado! And I said I wouldn’t spend another dime in CO!
This being a gun website, gun issues are covered-the good, the bad and the ugly. When heroes are covered for their use of guns we celebrate them and rightfully so. To suggest that mentioning criminals when they commit crimes goes along with celebrating them is myopic. To cite the issue without all the available information, including names and photos when available is to be given partial info which is never a good thing. Often times many here at TTAG complain that the antis never present the issues completely, that they only cover the criminals who use guns, but never mention DGUs. Covering only the positives here would pretty much make us just like those we criticize for doing exactly the opposite. I cannot speak for others, but I personally want as much information on ANY given subject, so that I may draw my own informed conclusions, as opposed to getting half the info with a predetermined point of view. We already have the latter, it is called The Press.
Go ahead and put up their picture. The problem with them showing up in the news is the hagiography and near-celebration of them for weeks on end.
The correct thing to do is put up a picture with a “this was a murdering slime-ball” caption and move on to something important.
“Progress”…… towards WHAT, exactly?…..
So the point of this exercise is……………….? Seeing that Shaneeqwa could give a flying f*ck over what el presidente has to say………..If so I am glad I noticed it in first few seconds. Took me longer to type this than the time I dedicated to the vid which was about 15 seconds if that much.
People give me crap all the time about my drivers license photo… ‘you look like a serial killer’, thank goodness they never saw my military ID :)….. but for f$$ks sake.. it’s quite hard for me to hold back on this kid. It’s as if he is scared shitless of anyone seeing him, a deer in the headlights. He is absolutely terrified of that camera, or rather the fact that it is taking a photo. The picture alone should cement the fact that he was not seeking publicity, although i do not know the setting in which it was taken.
Jumpin’ jeezus kee-rist on crutches you folks sure are white enough aren’t ya?
I’ve been visiting this site for quite a while but never thought I’d be ashamed of having done so due to narrow minded twits who think the worth of a man (or woman) was directly (and solely) linked to the color of their skin.
I’m ashamed to have ever visited TTAG after having read this bullshit.
You do realize, of course, that the only reason the media reported on this DGU was because Charles Watson was a retired Dallas cop. He’s one of the anointed few who are legitimately allowed to have/carry/use a gun based on “conventional wisdom” or whatever you call it. That’s part of the implicit message.
I don’t have any knowledge about grizzlys but when I’m working with Holstein bulls I carry a S&W 22A-1 anything larger has a hard time piercing the skull and won’t fit through “the X” area.