Press release from the IRA-ILA [via ammoland.com]:
With the expiration of the so-called Undetectable Firearms Act (UFA) rapidly approaching on December 9th, misinformation over this issue and NRA’s position on it has unfortunately reached a heightened level . . .
We would like to make our position clear. The NRA strongly opposes ANY expansion of the Undetectable Firearms Act, including applying the UFA to magazines, gun parts, or the development of new technologies. The NRA has been working for months to thwart expansion of the UFA by Senator Chuck Schumer and others. We will continue to aggressively fight any expansion of the UFA or any other proposal that would infringe on our Second Amendment rights.
Unlike the Schumer proposal, the vote today in the U.S. House of Representatives on H.R. 3626, sponsored by Rep. Howard Coble, is a simple 10-year reauthorization — NOT an expansion — of current law. Other than extending the sunset date, H.R. 3626 makes no changes whatsoever to the underlying act.
Some groups have been circulating misinformation in order to create confusion over today’s House vote. To be clear, Rep. Coble’s bill DOES NOT expand current law in any way, as Sen. Schumer’s proposal would do.
Again, the NRA strongly opposes any expansion of the Undetectable Firearms Act. By simply reauthorizing current law, however, H.R. 3626 does not expand the UFA in any way.
Yes, it’s a useless piece of legislation that should never have existed. And yes, there are MUCH more important battles to be fighting right now. Carry on.
you are wrong. every fight matters. if they see we are willing to compromise on one front then they will be embolden on others.
I am not sure if it really is compromise to renew a 25-year-old law that hasn’t really had an effect on anything for another 10-years. Seems more like accepting a no-harm status-quo instead of allowing a debate on outlawing p-mags. You would prefer p-mags be outlawed?
That is what I posted the other day. Anti2A NRA thinks it okay for current law to infringe on gun rights, but not okay for more infringement. Lol
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Don’t be surprised when NO ONE agrees with it, though.
I agree with him, but we all have better fights to fight than this completely useless law.
And, we need to quit being so divisive, it will be our undoing.
My daughter loved these, and the chocolate 1911 I bought her another year later. May have to do it again this year.
So, in practical term this outlaws zip guns and stuff like improvised firearms? I’m not sure those are really worth defending outside of experiments by responsible adults in controlled environments. It is a small sacrifice to prevent the liberals from setting back technological development.
This is of course assuming that Schumer had the votes to do something like ban the use of 3D printers or certain materials if the NRA didn’t act.
I looked through the entire pic gallery and didn’t see one optic mounted backwards or mag inserted incorrectly. So….bonus points for everyone!
As a life member of the NRA, this concerns me…that they support renewal of it… Right to bear arms isn’t right to bear arms made of X amount of metal in it… This is the PERFECT example how you can make a law and only the law abiding will follow it. Someone willing to kill another is going to have no problem making a plastic gun illegally and using it… It’s just one more charge to throw at them. In the mean time, law abiding need to make certain their firearms meet requirements… The NRA being OK with that bothers me a lot because it undermines their stance on other gun laws that do nothing to curtail crime.
The only gun law we need is that it should be illegal to murder(negligent or intentional) or endanger people with unsafe use of a firearm. That’s all there is to it…the punishment should be so severe no one would wish to violate it…
Now we will never get that Glock 7
Are porcelain guns possible?
WOW. I live 250 feet from a local college campus. Do I have similar treatment to look forward to when I load up the Jeep for a trip to the range? It could be the death of me, I might die laughing.
Pragmatically speaking, it is a matter of PR.
Most here are aware that the media is territory of the enemy .This close to the anniversary of Newtown, it’s vital we of the gun don’t give the media any rope to hang us with.
“NRA DISHONORS NEWTOWN VICTIMS, OPPOSES PLASTIC GUN REGULATION!”
The story writes itself.The liberal elite and Hollywood jumps in, and before you pick up your smartphone next time it’s turned into a trendy cause among the weak minded.Then Schumer and his cronies capitialize on it ,the Senate amends it into AWB 2.0,and it’s lights out for us.
By backing a House proposal to reauthorize what already exists , no practical damage to the RKBA exists , it thwarts an attempt by the anti lobby to fulcrum the issue into a PR campaign, and the protectionists are denied a cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoptofKbQ04
(Watch your volume, not necessarily work-safe, strong language)
Huffpo admitting that lawful gun owners arent the problem? Glad I was sitting down while I read the article. But as always they managed to sidestep and basically call for more hoops to jump through for gun owners, mention the wild west, and blame the problem on out of state guns. Because theft of a firearm and straw purchases never happen in Illinois.
“Given the speed at which Dong was confronted, it’s possible he was in custody before some of those officers even finished strapping on all their tac gear.”
Isn’t that how it always works out though? Whether its a real active shooter, or a false alarm, isn’t it usually over with before all the wannabe commando cops tool up and show up?
Maybe that’s the whole idea, play dress up with all the cool gear, show up late because you were gearing up, and stay out of any real danger.
This kind of stuff is actually pretty common in NYC. My wife was a public defender in Manhattan for seven years (a long time ago). The crap she used to tell me… My favorite was the dozens of people she represented who had only one charge: resisting arrest. I still can’t get my head around that.
Taking a dispassionate view, the law in question is actually a good thing.The intent was this:say a felon walks into your home with a companion and intent to commit a crime.
You shoot back, beating the NYPDs marksmanship by tabling one as the other criminal beats feet.Once the cops nail the second guy, this law means the accomplice can get charged for causing his partners death by planning the attack -even though you pulled the actual trigger.
Leave it to the crooked New York City government to ruin even that just piece of legislation.
No problem with the law. The application is the problem.
The same law exists in many other places without the same level of abuse.
This doesn’t surprise me. With liberalsim, everyone and noone is a victim.
Nope. That said, I could use a flashlight on my primary home defense weapon.
In the electric-guitar world, “geardo” equals a person with a bad case of “GAS”: Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
To answer the original question – no, I buy ammo instead.
I am definitely a gear collector, but mainly backpacking/camping stuff right now.
Gun-wise, I prefer a minimalist approach.
So let me get the TTAC nomenclature straight
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If it is a soldier – we call them a geardo
If it is a citizen – we call them a mall ninja
if it is a police officer – we call him a nazi storm trooper
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Sounds about right
they dont issue NYPD tasers, pepper spray or batons before they go to deadly force? In this case i would have even went for the beanbag guns, tho PDX had an issue with those recently.
So still largely useless versus a rifle. Which is what will usually be shot at you on most of the planet.
Please try getting most CEOs to wear one. They never listen to you, you’re just there to protect them.
As usual most of these will go to those who have no real use for them but can afford the expensive and hard to get.
Thanks Robert for the update from NRA-ILA. This makes sense, and now I feel foolish that I bought into GOAs too long email blast to my representatives and senators.
I remember a political science teacher in college class who said- remember the ABCs of politics, when considering what Congress does. Alliances, Barganing, Compromise.
Theres a science to this, and a good chess move would be to give the Anti’s a false win, by heading them off to prevent expansion.
We’ll see how it plays out, but the NRA-ILA info makes sense, and reminds me why I donate to have them working in the background on the ABCs.
But I, being poor, have only my dreams…
A few years ago, mostly due to financial concerns, my mindset changed to practicool over tacticool. I stopped dreaming about owning every firearm glamorized by movies and forums. For me every firearm has to have a role to fill and accessories kept to a minimum.
Weapon Lights, Night sights, Optics, slings/holsters, mag pouches/ ways to carry ammo, all seem more practicool than tacticool to me.
I liked the cops better when they were fat and lazy. These guys are more dangerous than most of the perps they (don’t) bust. Amped up on roids, red bull knock-offs and a vastly over-inflated self regard. As far as I’m concerned 95% of them can GFT.
“To protect (our pensions) and to serve (our union).”
Sounds like this turd Bateman’s angling for a special seat at the next SOTU lie-fest. But, that’s the way the military is leaning these days….purging of flag officers and promotion of queers.
I think that any extra gear on your firearms should reflect what you use or may have to use it for.
I hope the NRA is willing to lobby the House for this so that it is either renewal or nothing. If successful, it will start a new 10 year count down – 5 years or so to make non-metal 3D printable guns that work reliably and the remainder to make them “common use”.
We don’t oppose it at all. Only we’ll tell you we do.
Lying sacks of shit. Fifth columnists.
One Word: Sequestration
Hey, we still got more car than 90% of the population here.
I find it a bit odd that this 18% statistic was mentioned here when the article also says that 92% of those surveyed think that pediatricians should support gun control (and also the 77% statistic that Johnny mentioned).
well said thank you.