This popped up on Reddit this afternoon and since people are apparently actually buying that ridiculous SIG SAUER ACP device thing (review here), I wanted to offer a word of advice. If you have a handgun and you slap a forward vertical grip on it, the gun magically turns into a felony-worthy “Any Other Weapon” that’s regulated under the National Firearms Act. And while the tax stamp on those is only $5, it still takes 6 months to clear the paperwork. Another lovely example of the firearms laws we have here in the US, where the way something looks matters more than how lethal it actually is. So now you know. Don’t do it.
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Would it be possible to make a AOW out of nothing but an 870 receiver? Just the receiver, no stock/barrel on it, and have it registered as an AOW? Because it will be a pistol, with a smooth bore, firing 12 gauge shotgun shells, so it can’t be a pistol or a shotgun because its too short to be a shotgun, and doesn’t have rifling so it can’t be a pistol?
Like you buy an 870 receiver or pay to have one made, and it never has a shoulder stock or barrel longer than 18 inches on it, can you register that receiver as an AOW? It seems like that would be the best/cheapest way to get an SBS without really having an SBS by the legal definition.
That’s actually how the “master key” underbarrel shotgun is registered, as an AOW.
The article mentions 669 firearms were from out of state vs 366 as mentioned In this post??? I would bet that the vast majority of the 133 guns traced to NH were stolen by the stream of criminals out of Mass that regularly rob homes and commit crimes across Southern NH. A disproportionately large percentage of the serious crime committed in NH is by the MA criminal element. Furthermore, in 2010 NH was ranked #1 as the most safe state in the US from a violent crime standpoint. MA was 21st. I really think it unwise and foolhardy for MA to blame any of it’s crime problems on it’s mostly free neighbor to the North.
I did know about that law as I was interested in a Rock River PDS pistol. Laws made to F up a hobby are a real treat, Randy
Alright! I can just look lethal and not actually have to be? So I just need a Hollywood stylist — not a gun.
Now I understand California’s laws. The Heavens have opened.
So when you register it as an AOW, are you stuck with that grip? Would a new grip be constructing an AOW?
As a long term supporter of Congressman Paul it is a sad day. I now see that he has the same affliction as the rest of the DC criminal cartel.
You wrote: Maybe it’s time for someone to take the keyboard and smartphone away from the angry old man before he really embarrasses himself.
Too late, Dan.
Too goddamn late.
John
Does this website accomplish anything? its turning into one big pro gun E-rally.
Best survival rifle I have ever purchased. I have not packed my AR-7 since. I always take it to the range no matter what other firearms I plan to fire. It is amazingly accurate for its caliber…far better than I expected.
Regarding the Kotaku article:
Has anyone noticed that all of the top comments on this article are solidly anti-Feinsteinish-ban at the least, and many are pro-gun?
If you’re an OFWG (or anyone who doesn’t “get” video games, cough*Accur81*cough ;)) I highly recommend clicking on the Kotaku story. It’s a good read, and it illustrates a point I’ve made here before:
It used to be that shooting sports enthusiasts got their start in hunting, military service, or both. These days there is a third 2A-friendly group: gamers. Their first gun may be a GSG MP5 replica in 22LR, not a .30-06, but they ARE a huge constituency that either shoots or is interested.
What a daily summary. The ex-pat Swiss woman on the Huff Post link was wrong about Switzerland in almost every regard. No, the young reservists are not different than the old ones. The mass shooter wasn’t a soldier. You are not required to have two separate cabinets for your rifle. You can buy ammo for your Sig 550, though you can’t keep the issued box at home. Switzerland is fine with its guns.
Every vision of gun use half of America has in their minds is a sick vision conjured by a fabulist whose only guide is sensational box-office receipts. Of course they think guns are scary. And of course they forget everything they briefly once knew, like what it felt like to be a Korean grocer in Koreatown, LA, in 1992 when the cops fled the scene and it took three days to get the marines, reserves, and guards to LA, and there was a 10-day wait period to buy a gun. Or to be an unarmed black farm family in Alabama when the clan rode up at night.
I’m gratified that someone on the site remembers who Lyman Lemnitzer was, and what Operation Northwoods was supposed to do. Are there two of you?
Video games probably don’t cause crime, but they are a good diagnostic tool: If your adult kid stays in the basement playing FPS’s 8 hours a day six days a week, maybe you should get him into counseling. No?
While I agree with the anti-war stance as we’re spending out treasure burdening our grandchildren with over whelming debt and fighting another war for people who hold none of our values, I disagree with this statement. This is disgusting and extremely disrespectful. While I disagree with the war Chris Kyle is an American hero who pledged everything to defend us and he did it honorably. He did not deserve to die like this. He did not make his living by the sword, sorry no, he made his living by defending liberty and our country.
I maybe the lone voice but I also feel deep sympathy for the shooter and his family. He was suffering from PTSD and not getting the proper care from the govt. that send him to war. His family suffers and he must be too because I don’t believe he was “right” when he commited this act. This story is sad all the way around and hurling stupid comments doesn’t help.
My mini 14 feels underpowered now, what with hearing it should be able to shoot a plane down or blow up a train. Can I bill him for the counseling bills the poor little thing incurred?