Another reason I insist on a pump shotgun for serious work. No ammo related malfunctions unless the shell just falls apart in the action of the gun. Had that happen exactly once and I was able to clear the wreckage and continue hunting.
I wouldn’t exactly choose my 28″-barrel O/U for defensive purposes either haha. But… I will say that I have about 7,000 rounds through this gun, maybe 4,000 of which are my own reloads (light loaded bird shot for sporting clays and trap), and it has NEVER failed to fire the second barrel (or the first). It doesn’t take much recoil to bump the selector over, but most of these chocolate loads just didn’t have the mass necessary to do it. Full powder loads in every single round in the video, btw, but some just “poofed” as the primer blew everything out before the powder could burn. No chamber pressure. No boom. Just fizz.
BTW — the same argument is made by the guys who refuse to carry a semi-auto and live and breathe revolvers. And they’re right — if you have a weak round it won’t cycle.
Anyhoo — keep in mind that a lot of double barrel shotguns have two triggers; one for each hammer. This is probably even more reliable than a pump. Gets rid of the little selector doohickey that bounces back and forth on a single trigger O/U or SxS, and is mechanically about as simple as a gun gets.
For pure reliability, even with suspect ammo you can’t beat a break action shotgun with seperate triggers if a double. Of course the single shot is the simplest. And I do prefer a revolver but I also have a couple of autos. Variety is the spice.
100% certain the results would be THE WORST EVER! Looking at the empty hulls, I see all sorts of evidence of powder burning in really weird places. Not to mention what you can see in the video of very, very inconsistent pressures and burns. All of the rounds were loaded with the same [normal] powder charge and the same Winchester AA-style wad, but dang they fired different. One of the poured slugs definitely got the powder a touch wet and it kind of popped instead of banged (the 2nd slug fired in the video). Most of the rounds simply didn’t have enough mass, and the primer blew everything forwards before the powder started to go. It ended up burning in a very loosely-packed way instead of being under pressure like it’s supposed to be, and the results were all over the place because of that. With the cocoa powder (the lightest load), the end of the hull is covered in soot from the powder actually igniting and burning down around the crimp.
I brought a chronograph out to the woods with me but was too lazy to set it up. Maybe I’ll load some other silly rounds up and see what kind of velocities we get. That last slug in the video, though (the one that did reset the selector), felt like a light birdshot load — felt legit.
BTW I got some Angry Birds candy yesterday. I think I need to shoot it at some wooden blocks setup to look like random buildings with small pigs on them 😉
If Double Barrel Joe was onto something, it must have been Mrs. Double Barrel Joe.
Brain bleach anyone?
Ill just take the blue pill, thanks.
Ralph, dammitalltohell! Some things brain bleach won’t wipe away! Stoppit already!
Maybe try peanut M&Ms?
Want some?
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i don’t know how i feel about laughing so hard at that.
I really have to wonder if D.C. had lead-lined water mains.
That Milky Way slug is no joke. Well, kind of a joke, but a dangerous one at that.
Screw OO Buck, I’m loadin’ Peanut M&Ms from here on out!
Another reason I insist on a pump shotgun for serious work. No ammo related malfunctions unless the shell just falls apart in the action of the gun. Had that happen exactly once and I was able to clear the wreckage and continue hunting.
Another reason for pumps?! Do you often melt chocalte from Trader Joes, mash it into a shell, and subsequently arm yourself with such a concoction?
My 930 will never get chocolate slugs, and will only get peanut M&Ms if things get *really* bad.
As long as your 930 gets good quality factory fresh ammo A81 I’m sure you won’t have many issues with it. As long as.
And for the record, I usually melt the chocolate in my hands and mash it into my mouth.
You’d be surprised how often that exact scenario comes up.
I wouldn’t exactly choose my 28″-barrel O/U for defensive purposes either haha. But… I will say that I have about 7,000 rounds through this gun, maybe 4,000 of which are my own reloads (light loaded bird shot for sporting clays and trap), and it has NEVER failed to fire the second barrel (or the first). It doesn’t take much recoil to bump the selector over, but most of these chocolate loads just didn’t have the mass necessary to do it. Full powder loads in every single round in the video, btw, but some just “poofed” as the primer blew everything out before the powder could burn. No chamber pressure. No boom. Just fizz.
BTW — the same argument is made by the guys who refuse to carry a semi-auto and live and breathe revolvers. And they’re right — if you have a weak round it won’t cycle.
Anyhoo — keep in mind that a lot of double barrel shotguns have two triggers; one for each hammer. This is probably even more reliable than a pump. Gets rid of the little selector doohickey that bounces back and forth on a single trigger O/U or SxS, and is mechanically about as simple as a gun gets.
For pure reliability, even with suspect ammo you can’t beat a break action shotgun with seperate triggers if a double. Of course the single shot is the simplest. And I do prefer a revolver but I also have a couple of autos. Variety is the spice.
Werd.
“UP NEXT” Peta becomes upset with chocolate ammunition giving wildlife diabetes.
Sugar free peanut or almond cored ammo, with full candy jacket…
I bet those almond cores could do some wicked damage. They’ll probably be banned as armor-piercing projectiles.
Very entertaining and educational. I will stockpile mini-Milkyway’s and other miscellaneous chocolates in case the ammo shortage continues…
What are you going to use for primers, Pez?
Peanut M&M’s and Pop Rocks. A lethal combination.
Throw in a Mentos and a Diet Coke paintball, and you’re set.
Looks like that last piece of drywall had a deadly peanut allergy!
That was “SWEET”.
Is Foghorn gonna do some ammo consistency testing?
100% certain the results would be THE WORST EVER! Looking at the empty hulls, I see all sorts of evidence of powder burning in really weird places. Not to mention what you can see in the video of very, very inconsistent pressures and burns. All of the rounds were loaded with the same [normal] powder charge and the same Winchester AA-style wad, but dang they fired different. One of the poured slugs definitely got the powder a touch wet and it kind of popped instead of banged (the 2nd slug fired in the video). Most of the rounds simply didn’t have enough mass, and the primer blew everything forwards before the powder started to go. It ended up burning in a very loosely-packed way instead of being under pressure like it’s supposed to be, and the results were all over the place because of that. With the cocoa powder (the lightest load), the end of the hull is covered in soot from the powder actually igniting and burning down around the crimp.
I brought a chronograph out to the woods with me but was too lazy to set it up. Maybe I’ll load some other silly rounds up and see what kind of velocities we get. That last slug in the video, though (the one that did reset the selector), felt like a light birdshot load — felt legit.
BTW I got some Angry Birds candy yesterday. I think I need to shoot it at some wooden blocks setup to look like random buildings with small pigs on them 😉