Check below the fold for the full statement, but the general outline is that they’re planning on pulling up stakes and producing the first non-Colorado made PMAG within 30 days, possibly with satellite manufacturing plants in multiple states. Considering how massive their production is right now, that can’t be an easy task. But they seem determined to give the middle finger to Colorado Democrats, and I have no doubt that we’ll see a better organized and larger PMAG production capacity in a couple months . . .
We have said all along that based on the legal problems and uncertainties in the bill, as well as general principle, we will have no choice but to leave if the Governor signs this into law. We will start our transition out of the state almost immediately, and we will prioritize moving magazine manufacturing operations first. We expect the first PMAGs to be made outside CO within 30 days of the signing, with the rest to follow in phases. We will likely become a multi-state operation as a result of this move, and not all locations have been selected. We have made some initial contacts and evaluated a list of new potential locations for additional manufacturing and the new company headquarters, and we will begin talks with various state representatives in earnest if the Governor indeed signs this legislation. Although we are agile for a company of our size, it is still a significant footprint, and we will perform this move in a manner that is best for the company and our employees.
It is disappointing to us that money and a social agenda from outside the state have apparently penetrated the American West to control our legislature and Governor, but we feel confident that Colorado residents can still take the state back through recalls, ballot initiatives, and the 2014 election to undo these wrongs against responsible Citizens.
FYI the United Church of Christ does not speak for all it’s members.
Glad to see them following through on their threats. Hopefully this will make other states think twice before exercising tyranny.
Threat? I think I’d call it a promise. And Calirado is going to eventually find out what a mistake they made. I hope.
For your information the United Church of Christ does not speak for all it’s members. I hate it when the head office backs shit without even sending their churches.
Yeah, the People’s Republic of Burlington is getting bigger every day. Thanks for your good wishes and info. Til next time.
Brilliant long-term business move if they follow through… I’m a Magpul customer now, but I’m a customer for life if they move. This covers the spectrum of what our country is about.
When they become available again, I will help by purchasing as many as I can 🙂 Thank goodness we still have companies that stand on principle
Hmmm… “…they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
While not explicitly an assertion of the right to safety, the D of I at least implies the right to a not ridiculously unsafe environment (at least as the expected norm) as anything else is highly antithetical to life.
In the pursuit of such reasonable safety, 2A is an important tool, and indeed is described as such in the Constitution. That whole Domestic Tranquility bit in the preamble means at least in part a nation not too likely to get one killed for no good reason.
Just sayin’.
Given we are soon to get screwed in CT, I would be happy to purchase a 10 pack from Magpul if I could actually find them.
Why bother. You won’t be allowed to keep them.
Malloy’s group of gun grabbers can propose whatever they want, the bipartisan commision has a grandfather clause and I bet that will pass before the ban or the 7 round recommendation. I also suspect everything will be overturned in the courts.
Just in case, I have property in TX, PA, NC and FL. They will have to really work to find them if they want them.
this is like watching a train wreck. I foresee no trips to Colorado until sick-and-loopy is recalled. This “readily convertible” language will probably be effectively struck (my prediction) meaning sick-and-loopy will have signed this into law for no apparent reason other than his own personal need to commit hari-kari.
O’Malley is doing the same dance. I am not sure what universe they are living in that has them sign these gun grab bills and get elected prez. I wish i was that good at fooling myself.
Yes sir. We will no longer move to Colorado. And we will no longer vacation in Colorado. This is going to cost the state untold millions of dollars.
I would be livid if I had already moved to Colorado. Now it is a competition between Utah and Texas.
Ok team, I’ve got an idea: Let’s all us gun owners pick a reasonably small third world country. Something with a beach. Then let’s go take it over. After all, there are 100 million of us well armed individuals. I think we could accomplish that. Maybe get together with a military contractor, like the old black water group to provide logistical support. Then after we all move, we can watch our prior country collapse under it’s own lazy liberal dead weight. Just kidding, right?
Then there’s a perfect reason your not law enforcement .. This man has been my friend for almost 15 years.. Officers involved should be ashamed for pushing the issue.. Not doing there job, they have to see what’s going On I understand .. But once they seen his credentials and assessed the situation it should have never got this far..and his son shouldn’t fear being removed from a great family for learning proper gun control..been friends with this man for to long and will continue to support him on whatever site this turns up
A country to live in with no gun regulations—LaPierre’s dream—is Somalia.
No, his dream country with no gun regulations is the US. Which, up until 79 years ago, that was the case. Yes, just a few years before this SOB was born, the US respected the Second Amendment.
That’s GOT to be illegal in at least 12 states…mostly blue ones…but still…
Some people just need a sympathetic pat on the head…
… with a hammer
magpul, still waiting on AK magazines.
😉 (btw, nice work; I hope Wyoming is nice)
AK mags would be great! I’d buy at least ten for each one.
No kidding! If they ever start making mags for AK’s, they’ll never go out of business!!
i think the time has long passed for somebody to make reliable and rugged US-made AK magazines (for both the 47 and 74) so that us serious shooters wont have to bypass the promag and tapco junk for increasingly scarce combloc surplus.
If anyone here is unaware, there is a move on to boycott all hunting in Colorado. Across the Country, hunters can fight back by not participating with states that are unfriendly to gun owners. There apparently is an organization up and ready to run. I read that the Colorado hunting industry brings in revenues of around $800,000,000 so they can be hurt. Yes, it will hurt the outfitters and guides but it will cause a tremendous backlash against Colorado politicians from voters within the state and I suspect, there will be such pressure exerted, the law won’t stand. It’s a way we fight back legally in any state that that’s unfriendly to hunters and gun owners. We have to stop it somewhere and we can’t let any state Californicate the law-abiding firearms owners without a severe backlash. If you really have to hunt go to a gun friendly state, like Wyoming, Montana or Texas…the Colorado elk and deer will be bigger next year. Support the gun owners in Colorado not the politicians. Some may already have money on a hunt and won’t want to lose their deposits but if the outfitters and guides start getting calls to see about postponing the hunts, even if they won’t postpone ’em, they’ll probably get a quick understanding that they need to put pressure on their legislators.
We are ready to stand and fight in Minnesota as well and have been discussing the very same tactic should the legislature turn unfriendly towards sportsman. Half a million deer hunters could make a pretty big impression, not to mention all the small game and bird hunters.
You mean there are hunters who are actually finally ready to join the fight? Hopefully they understand now that we are all in the same fight.
^This…I have friends and coworkers who are AVID hunters and passionately on the side of disarmament. Yes, that’s an oxy moron but true.
It’s an unfortunate fact that a lot of hunters are NOT Second Amenment-aware. As long as they believe they’ll still be able to hunt, they really don’t give a RA.
I bought 10 a few weeks ago and have an order in for another 5. This is so infuriating. I’m a life long Coloradan, born and raised. These leftists do not represent us. I fear there are too many freedom hating tyrants in Boulder and Denver to change direction of this state. I’m going to do my best to vote these pricks out of office but should they retain power in 2014 after all this and the rest of the decadent things they’re doing, I’ll have no choice but to leave like Magpul.
I found some PMAGs for sale at my LGS last week for $40/ea. I passed.
I saw some at this weekes gun show in denver at 60 bucks, I also saw a 525 round brick of .22 lr for 120 bucks…can you say gouge
HOO-ahh!! Thanks for posting the video, great historical/philosophical background. If he’s been shouting against the anti-gun madness all these years, no wonder “he lives at the top of a f***ing mountain.” 🙂
MAGPUL, come to Utah!
I am proud of my newly built AR full of Magpul bits and 1 mag. I will buy only PMags when they become available.
Has anyone tried to leave a comment on his blog?
Mines still in “moderation”.
Gotta love them Donkeycrats — they never met a gun grab that they didn’t like.
Well, the 2014 elections are anything but clear at this point – we may yet see this play out nationally. Won’t be fun if it happens.
We are fortunate that Amendment II does not include a provision empowering periodic review by commissions of over-wrought citizens in one locality or another.
If and when Magpul moves out of CO, I’ll be its biggest fan. Until then, it’s just talk. And you Coloradans who think this is the end of gun control in CO, just wait. This is only the beginning. Keep voting Democrat and kiss your guns and freedom goodbye.
Hey, the first video is “private” now, and without it, this article doesn’t make a lot of sense.
It’s a rate, not a quantity, so it is independent of the size of the population. Baby boomers getting too old to commit crime is not really relevant.
I learned a huge amount of information about ConLaw and criminology from Don himself at monthly meetings we used to have in San Francisco called “the Second Amendment Society.” Several of us computer nerds would drive up to SF on the appointed days to listen and learn from Don. The man is a treasure and a masterful assembler of knowledge.
For those who have never heard of Don before, I’ll tell you how prescient Don was: Don told us (back then in the early 90’s, the last time there was gun control hysteria like we’re seeing now, as a result of workplace shootings and rampant gang shootups in major urban areas) that the reason why the Second Amendment never got a fair hearing at the SCOTUS was because the cases where it was mentioned that came before the court involved criminals. Don correctly predicted that the Second Amendment would prevail, but only if the case were structured properly: A plaintiff of one (preferably more) law-abiding citizen(s) who were being denied their right to self-defense (and nothing else but – ie, don’t try to wrap hunting, gun collecting, etc into the case – ONLY self-protection) was abrogated by gun control laws. Don also predicted that the case would have to arise out of either DC or Chicago (because you need to have a case in a jurisdiction where the gun control was “complete” – leaving you with no gun at all) and that the preference would be for DC, because it would enjoy a faster route to the SCOTUS, and because the political class in DC was so cocksure of their stance on gun control that if they lost at the Circuit Court level, they’d appeal. In hindsight, if DC gun-grabbers had been smart (and they never are), they’d have stopped when Heller won the first time. By appealing to the SCOTUS, they made it national case law.
Heller was structured exactly as Don said it would need to be to obtain a hearing in the Supreme Court. Moreover, Don also predicted that the NRA wouldn’t be part of the lawsuit early on, because the NRA lawyers were scared of taking a case to the SCOTUS.
Then the next big case would be ‘incorporation’ through the Fourteenth Amendment (a ConLaw concept I’d never heard of before I met Don) and that case would come about only if the first case was won (ie, the case of “Do you have a right to self-defense, and is this part of the Second Amendment individual right?”) and Chicago would be a good venue for the incorporation doctrine, since their gun control law is not only a state issue, but a local issue as well, and the incorporation doctrine was used to confer First Amendment and Fourth Amendment rights in states and cities with laws abusive of those liberties.
While most younger gun rights activists and proponents might not have heard of Don Kates, you should read up on his work, because he was one of the very few people in the courts and law journals 20+ years ago, plowing a furrow through very rocky ground indeed.
I think tdiinva made a good observation. we can look at murder rates and then also offset the chart based on urban vs rural settings. the higher the concentration of people per acre, the higher percentage you will have of violent crimes. We will also see a rise when Single mother parenting becomes more of the norm than a 2 parent traditional family.
We will never see True statistics until we are willing to look at the contributing factors. Prior to firearms, we still had unthinkable slaughtering of people whether for belief or desire of power possessions or status. As we change dynamics of population concentrations, cost and availability of firearms, Sociological trends and a simple comprehension of right and wrong, we will alter the incidence percentages of firearms.
Our wallets will do the talking! And it will work.
An example: I really want this bag, haven’t found another one like it:
http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/All-Hazards/Bail-Out-Bag.html
Unfortunately I wont be buying it. 5.11 is a CA based company. I will get something else from Drago instead, which is based in FL…..
With the exception of the pants (and those are overrated, Massiff, TAD, Kuhl, Kavu and Crye make better pants) 5.11 is junk anyways.
At the time, revolutionaries were called “Patriots”, “Whigs”, “Congress-men”, or “Americans”. They included a full range of social and economic classes, but were unanimous regarding the need to defend the rights of Americans and uphold the principles of republicanism in terms of rejecting monarchy and aristocracy, while emphasizing civic virtue on the part of the citizens.
If everyone was required to read and pass an in-depth test over that book, the country would be a much better place.
Noir…2016
This is supposed to be a reply to Lucubration’s comment above but it appears at the bottom of comments for reasons I don’t understand because I was clearly typing a reply to Lucubration’s comment above.
“In no way is any evidence provided that these recommendations will assure ‘domestic tranquility’ or ‘promote the general welfare’ while completely criminalizing all gun ownership and use.”
Evidence either way is irrelevant because that does not justify infringing on citizens’ rights. No one would doubt for an instant that there would be greater domestic tranquility if any law enforcement officer could search and/or inspect any thing at any time at any place for any or no reason … including homes and even strip searches. But such activity demeans people and is never acceptable behavior. Neither is infringing on any other right.
As someone who grew up watching WWII combat footage when it was virgin stuff, I don’t see that this footage has anything out of the ordinary for combat video. Go back and look at classic WWII footage and you will see what I mean. I think the tactical critics are confusing movie action with the real thing.
The AT-4 is an interesting weapon. It is basicly a $10K bazooka. The original weapon ran about $100 which translates into maybe $1500 today. Where did the extra $8.5 K go to?
Seems like, in the wake of his son’s death, Fineman would have had a new photo made depicting him as soulful and empathetic, to reflect how the tragedy had affected him.
This pic looks like Helen Thomas with all those crocodile teeth.
“A: NO (3/12/13 1:44 PM)”
Glad we got that settled.
He assures us that the only reason we have any of our freedoms is due to the Second Amendment.
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That if we lived in a country without a Second Amendment we would be pitiless slaves—without any freedoms—under the rule of tyrants.
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Was he talking about living in countries like England, France, Italy, and Sweden?
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As for the comparison to Somalia, he is a retard. Somalia is the closest thing we have to an anarchy on this planet that I can think of. What Wayne (and the rest of us) want is a libertarian state with as many freedoms and liberties possible. We have a framework of law. They don’t. Big difference.
What I’d like to know is why anodized aluminum snap caps are so expensive?
Normal ops for TN. $10 TICS (background)required on any purchase from a dealer. The TICS takes just a few minutes to process input from the 4473, and at least in my case, comes back granted in about two minutes. (not that I agree with any of it). The 18% is I guess the “privilege” of buying it from that auction. Normal Sales Tax is ~9.75%
The writing is on the wall. some people just can’t read!. These liberals are all about control, so when they spout off about making society safer, you can bet it means you lose rights and money. Think criminals are worried about these new laws? They don’t care about the other hundreds of gun laws, they won’t care about this either. These new gun laws only hurt good law abiding people. I just retired from law enforcement after 28 years with a medium size police department in the Northwest. Since Obama took office in 2008, approximately 95 percent of the departments officers have purchased there own privately owned Ar-15’s, even though the department duty rifles were M-16’s and M1A’s. Common sense still prevails in this area, you think when there is a a real SHTF incident, your local police will be there to help you., you need to educate yourself, SCOTUS has already made rulings that the Police have no duty to protect you! They will be home protecting their own family. Most of the department officers are also hunters and sportsmen, (myself included) most have in excess of 5000 rounds of ammunition stored for personal use. We had many discussions that no matter what restrictive gun legislation is handed down, we were not going to inforce it if it’s against the constitution. The federal govement is choosing not to enforce immigration laws, massive fraud on wall street with no enforcement action, feds selling guns and weapon systems to terrorist goverments and no accountability. And now they are making executive mandates that cleary violate the second amendment without approval of congress. The feds printing money with nothing behind it to back it’s value, faith in the dollar won’t last forever. Wake up America. when this grand experiment fails, you will either be a citizen or a victim. Just my opinion.
I live out west can I get one?????????
You can’t call it a buy back if you never owned it!
It’s interesting, but I’d have to try one before I’m sold on it.
I was sold on the (non-folding) AICS before ever trying one because it made sense. It’s an aluminum chassis that holds your (somewhat) round Rem700 in a V-block, has detachable mag bottom metal built in, and from action to butt plate has a structure that will still work no matter how destroyed the plastic skins are. It’s also got an adjustable comb and length of pull. I’m not sold on the idea of a folding stock, but I’ve never tried one (or performed a HALO jump with one).
What I see here is an aluminum stock that might not be touch-friendly in extreme weather. Between the butt plate and the action is an indexing pivot that could fail.
Having not tried it, I don’t know how important the “rollover prone” position is. Is it a real problem our military has encountered? Is it a made up obstacle in tactical precision rifle competition? Is it a game-changer because no one could do it effectively before and it was desperately needed? I’m asking seriously because I have no idea.
Also, how important is cast on or cast off in a precision rifle? To my knowledge, that’s not been available on McMillans and the like. I hate to be close-minded to new technology, but I also believe in K.I.S.S., and our military seems to do just fine with simple stocks.
Alfredo Malespini I and II must be so proud. And what a stroke of luck, Al, that you weren’t going wee-wee at the time, virtually assuring that there would never be an Alfredo Malespini IV.
You are probably just more sensitive to the smoke. That is a common variation among people. Unless you are there every day, all day…. I think you will be fine.
Indoor ranges will turn off the ventilation system if there is no one shooting. So if you just walked in and no one is shooting, check with the RSO to make sure the ventilation is on.
Too many to count, too close together, but this guy is on a par with that Florida cop who got over-excited by seeing a man’s holster peeking out from under his shirt. If you’re that tightly wound up, you’re in the wrong job!
Cliff
I’d hope this was a parody. How does he Have a job? Talk about liability for the malls owners.
Gov. Mussolini is one arrogant pr!ck, just like his old man. Obviously, the nut didn’t fall far from the tree.
We’ve had such a defensive posture over the years; this is the kind of offence mindset that we need.
IMHO…The problem has been that we’re too nice; we have been victims of our own benevolence. These people are bullies and we need to take our pound of flesh…. I can’t think of a better way than reclaiming something that’s rightfully ours…
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Dont rush the shotgun and pistol so much.
I think the second amendment has a logical limit. The idea behind the 2A is that we have an armed citizenry that if called upon can grab their gear and defend liberty. Consequently, the arms protected should be the types of arms used by an individual soldier. Handguns, assault rifles (real ones), and body armor would be covered. Crew served weapons would seem to go beyond the scope and intent. Specialty weapons, like an AT4, would also not be covered. Neither would a trap or skeet gun (not saying they should be banned, just that hunting and sporting has nothing to do with the 2A).
A gun, or any other weapon for that matter, poses no threat in the possession of a law abiding citizen. Single-shot, semi-auto, full-auto should only be a consideration of one’s wallet.
“Baum ends Gun Guys by agreeing with President Obama’s assessment that there’s something wrong with American culture”
I couldn’t agree more. It’s called the leftist/progressive ideology.
I would make a long post, but I’m sick of it. I’m sick of arguing a point that should in no way be up for argument. The 2A is a right, period. If you don’t like it, leave the country or shut the hell up, leave me alone, and go about your pathetic life. How I live my life is not up for you to decide, and if you can’t understand it or fathom it, that’s your issue. Quit trying to change other people because of your own mental and/or emotional immaturity.