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Kentucky Sec. of State Grimes is Pro Gun…Just Ask Her!

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By Johannes P.

Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundgren Grimes (above), is challenging GOP Senator (and 2008 winner of the NRA’s Defender of the Constitution award,) Mitch McConnell for the right to represent the Commonwealth in the U.S. Senate – and she’s hinting that she stands behind the Second Amendment. Ms. Grimes recently issued a challenge to Senator Mitch McConnell . . .

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The senior Senator from Kentucky has apparently not responded to that challenge, and so Ms. Grimes needled McConnell again on Twitter after he walked out on stage at CPAC Friday holding a rifle aloft while the classic Bon Jovi tune “Livin’ on a Prayer” blared from the sound system.

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More important than a critique of his rifle handling techniques, however, is Ms. Grimes’ actual stand on the Second Amendment. The Democrat sure was talking a good game in a statement issued to the Lexington Herald-Leader in November:

As an NRA member, my strong support for the Second Amendment is unquestioned….  I am proud of Kentucky’s long-held gun ownership, sporting and hunting traditions. It is unfortunate that Sen. McConnell is desperate to mislead Kentucky voters about my strong support for the Second Amendment.

While we earnestly look forward to the day that the fundamental civil right to keep and bear arms has broad bipartisan support, a number of Democrat stalwarts in the past have also talked a good game on the issue (see: Manchin, Joseph), only to leave civil rights supporters in the lurch when it was politically convenient to do so. A bit of healthy skepticism is therefore warranted when a member of the party of Nancy Pelosi and Orval Faubus claims to be a defender of the right to keep and bear arms.

We found this segment of the Herald-Leader’s story to be troubling:

Grimes angered the [NRA] by attending a Las Vegas fundraiser last month where trial attorney Michael Papantonio was a co-host. In the wake of mass shootings, Papantonio has been intensely critical of the NRA.

Mike Papantonio is a highly successful mass-tort attorney from Florida, who has brought in trial verdicts worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He also is the co-host (with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder,) of the talk show Ring of Fire. And given his opinions, the phrase “intensely critical of the NRA” is something of an understatement. Here are some of the views that this silver-tongued orator from Pensacola expressed in a December 2013 interview with RT America:

[Y]ou have a Republican filibuster….that has continued to pave the way for….an epidemic of death with our school children.  Almost two hundred school-age children have been killed by the NRA’s epidemic of death….  If you take a look at the real numbers … 1 million deaths….have taken place from guns since 1980.  And that number is geometrically increasing is the best way I’ve seen it described.  The $30 million that gun rights fanatics have placed into this effort to let the continued killing, primarily of children, that money is not matched at all with the voice from the other side….  It’s a pretty one-sided fight.

We regularly read the New York Times, and we’re confident that the NRA’s killing spree would’ve made the front page if Papantonio’s over the top comments were even in the same neighborhood as the truth. So far, we haven’t seen Ms. Grimes distancing herself from his outrageous claims.

The Kentucky Senate race, however, is far from over. Ms. Grimes’ challenge to Sen. McConnell is an opportunity. Bucking the Democrat party line seems to be her go-to strategy. She has already broken with the leadership of her party by supporting a balanced budget amendment, and said flatly that she “strongly opposes President Obama’s attack on Kentucky’s energy industry” via her website.

Since both Senator McConnell and Ms. Grimes are NRA members, perhaps the NRA could host a friendly little shooting event featuring Ms. Grimes and Mr. McConnell at a mutually-acceptable Kentucky shooting range. Ms. Grimes could use the opportunity to speak directly to the people – to explain that whatever their differences on other issues, she stands with Mr. McConnell in defending the people’s rights from infringement.

Or maybe she could promise that when she’s in the Senate, she’ll support legislation for national concealed carry reciprocity, and strengthening the Firearm Owners’ Protection Act to prevent petty little tyrants like Mike Bloomberg from harassing law-abiding citizens who travel through his city? She’d have an opportunity to explain how she’ll oppose attempts by President Obama to restrict the Second Amendment through regulatory chicanery or executive orders. Maybe she could even tell us how strongly she supports the right of every American to own modern semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15 and the AK-47.

Convince us, Ms. Grimes. Gun owners with people like Mitch McConnell because they have stood with us on this issue for a long time. But we’re also uncomfortable with Senators having a tenures that are measured in decades.  So please let us know: which side are you on? Your party’s or your constituents’?

0 thoughts on “Kentucky Sec. of State Grimes is Pro Gun…Just Ask Her!”

  1. Obviously it depends on how much you shoot.

    I’ll typically do 100-150 rounds per range session, a few times per month. So 1000 rounds isn’t exactly much. For others, that might last years.

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  2. Guys,
    Look at it this way, the second amendment was written to provide protection from an infringing government, so HOW MANY ROUNDS DO THEY HAVE? 2000 rounds PER firearm should be a standing minimum. I own six 1911’s, so 12,000 rounds of 45 ACP are in order. Like my old daddy used to say, I’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Ideally, if they decide to burn me out, what a nice surprise they will have. If I shoot a box, I go gets another one (or two)…. 😉 ….
    Robert Seddon

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  3. Yeah, Wendy Davis is pro-gun too, right at the moment. My observation is that “pro-gun” Democrats are like “pro-life” Democrats–they exist only on the campaign trail in conservative districts or states, once they actually go to work, they morph into just another Democrat.

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    • And as a VERY junior member of the Senate she will be quickly under the heel of her party leadership, not to mention most likely in the minority party.

      I take a politician’s (actual) position on the Second Amendment very seriously, but I have to say that the downside of electing a Democrat/Liberal/Progressive weighs heavily against any possible pro-2A stance she may or may not hold once she is in office for the next 6 years. If she does get elected you must keep in mind that if she turns out to be a SAINO (Second Amendment in Name Only), you, and we, are stuck with her for those six years. And she will undoubtedly be pressured to rubber-stamp any potential SCOTUS nominee from Barry.

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  4. OK, I just followed the link to her website, typical liberal Dem bs about the mythical “gender wage gap” and raising the minimum wage is right up at the top, obvious pandering to Kentuckians about coal (in which she lumps Republicans in with Dems, as if Republicans had ever used EPA to strangle energy producers) in the middle, no word on the page about 2A issues. I stand by my statement, I’d bet the ranch she is just another liberal Dem goo-goo trying to fool the rubes just long enough to get elected. she might even succeed, given what a dud McConnell has been of late. Oh, and BTW, at least President Obama had the sense, or an advisor did, to use eye pro and hearing protection when he made his posed “here I am at the range, see what a gun lover I am” photo.

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    • Ahhhhh yes…the gender wage gap.

      If it was real can somebody explain why some “greedy capitalist” hasn’t decided to reduce his labor costs by 25% and hire an all women workforce? Can you imagine the competitive advantage that a company would have if their workforce costs were 25% lower than any of their competitors?

      TRUTH is not a value of the left.

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  5. ‘The Democrat sure was talking a good game…’

    Well now, that’s just the problem, isn’t it? Talk is cheap. The Democrats make lots of promises, free this, free that, you can keep your doctor and we’ll even save you $2500 a year, yada, yada. Five years later you wake up to find yourself in a bathtub full of ice water with a couple of kidneys missing and a note that says call 911 NOW! (Metaphorically speaking.) Do you really want to put your kidneys, or your AR in the hands of a Democrat?

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  6. Why are liberal women typically more attractive? Just sitting here drinking with my LaRue and Sig 220. Who says guns and alcohol don’t mix?

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  7. Politicians and political-hopefuls posing with [insertgunhere] in order to plaster on a facade that screams “I R PRO-GUN1!1!!!1!” honestly sickens me.

    That’s a tactic reserved for racist, sexist, anti-rights gun-grabbing sock-puppets.

    I never had any logical, rational, or moral reason to believe a single fucking thing that has ever come out of any politician’s mouth, anywhere, at any time, or under any circumstance. Literally the only thing that anybody should ever, ever care about is if what any scumbag politician does matches up with what they say.

    Don’t just pay us lip-service, Grimes. Prove it. By doing it.

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  8. Actually the term “commonly used” did not refer to the civilian population but rather to the military foot soldier. In essence saying that the civilian should be afforded the same firepower that a basic foot soldier in the military “commonly used”. Since that includes submachineguns, light machineguns, light antitank, and etc then it stands to reason the average Joe Law Abiding Citizen should also be allowed the ability to own a firearm equal to the military of a tyrannical government sent to violate Joe’s Constitutional Rights. This is what was the intent of the Second Amendment “Shall not be Infringed” Therefore, the 1986 Act and all the ones passed before it are all Unconstitutional…and Unlawful. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court has been subverted just as has the Executive Branch in the White House, and the Senate. No longer have we a checks and balance system, but rather a Monopoly on Freedom…or actually…the lack of Freedom.
    Just saying…

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  9. Politics aside, I like the technique. If Pink Floyd was writing for a charitable group, it would probably look something like this. Just with more heroin.

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  10. Oh, she will vote with the NRA, right up till the Donks really need her vote. Then when Harry Reid cracks the the whip, she will fall right in line, just like the good democrat she is.

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  11. There are a lot of people who are Pro-2A, who think that keep and bear means:

    1. Single or double barrel shotgun.
    2. Deer rifle.
    3. Grandpa’s old .38 revolver that the wife makes hubby keep in a shoe box in the attic above the garage.
    4. Red Rider.

    It’s important to dig a lil deeper when any politician makes the claim that they are a friend of the 2A. I’m betting most of the time they mean one of the above four items and will vociferously inform you of their support for sportsmen and hunting and fishing.

    Which is cool and all, but it means they are not addressing the main concerns. To steal a phrase from the leftys, “They is ignorant. They need to be educated so they stop hating.”

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  12. Is Manchin still in office?? That dude should be looking for a new job by now!! Do you want fries with that sir?? Well yes, yes I do and how about I add a super sized f*** you for trying to screw the entire nation!!

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  13. Guys, I feel like your energy would be better spent getting behind Matt Bevin if you want to un-seat Mitch McConnell. From his website:

    “Matt is a proud conceal carry gun owner and he believes the Second Amendment is the lynchpin of the Bill of Rights, as it was designed to protect all of the other Amendments. The right to bear arms is not just limited to ownership but includes the right to carry as well. Matt will fight to fully restore the Second Amendment by pushing for national right to carry legislation. He will also fight off any attempt by career politicians to dictate the types of guns and ammunition that Kentuckians choose to own.”

    I find it hard to argue with a statement as black and white as that.

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  14. It was sure nice to see that they disabled the comments on his Yahoo news story with katie curic, just goes to show the chickenshits they really are. Spend you money Bloomy spend spend spend. It sure worked well in Colorado.

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  15. I’m going to go out on a limb and say Oscar Pistolius is going to be punted into a cramped cell for a very long time with the citizens of South Africa footing the bill.

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  16. those seeking to take our liberty will have to choose between their jobs or protecting their families. can’t do both “behind” enemy lines.

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  17. I’ll post a pic of me with a sign that reads, ‘Don’t be dumb, CT’ as I pose with a shovel over what appears to be a freshly buried cache.

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  18. I guess Assad is on the verge of defeat.

    A few hundred fighters can hold off a modern army if hey fight by the West’s rules of engagement. Not so much if they are fighting an Assad or Milosevic.

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  19. Near as I can tell Ares Armor was contemplating setting up a company (Ares Metalworks) that would make available a pre-programmed CNC machine to customers to finish 80% lowers. They judiciously asked the ATF for clarification on the legality of such a business, and after receiving the response that a license would be necessary scratched the idea.

    The odd thing is other then the mentions of the letter I didn’t see ANY references to Ares in the warrant affidavit, so i am puzzled how that warrant can be for the Ares locations. Also, the warrant filing dates were October of 2013, I got the impression the Ares warrants are more recent.

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  20. I too am skeptical of the Door-to-Door Raid approach. I think they will come to your place of business/work with an arrest warrant and cart you away in front of all your co-workers. Then, they will execute a search warrant on your residence, but not with SWAT, since you, the gun owner aren’t there to resist. If they find what they are looking for, felony charges. If they don’t they make up charges or just drop the whole thing. You can sue, but it will take years to litigate.

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  21. I think “John” is correct. The State of CT is not going to expend resources “hunting down” the estimated over 100,000 persons who did not comply with the Law. I never recognized that “D2D” is a “behind the curve” concept, but his argument makes good sense. I still think those who sent applications “late” should probably be nervous…maybe real nervous. We still do not know how much CT actually knows about those who simply did not comply with the “registration” requirement, but they are essentially “stuck” with firearms and magazines they cannot really take to a public shooting range or area without risk of arrest. Firearms or magazines condemned to sit in a storage area forever are as useless as ones “confiscated” by the State, with the only benefit being the owner is not arrested, prosecuted, imprisoned, fined….et cetera.
    I think it is still imperative that Arms Owners push for and contribute financial resources to Pro Second Amendment Organizations to continue Appeals or file new Lawsuits against this onerous CT Law. In the meantime, I sincerely hope the fewest possible citizens of CT (none at all would be my first choice) have their lives altered/ruined because of this Law.

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  22. How about just finding a real lower through a private sale and be done with it? lol In most states a private seller needs not ask anything of a buyer, at most a ID to verify they are from the same state. I see private sales lowers daily for fair prices. Cali of course is a different story, almost a different country there. This ghost stuff just scares the gov much like the 3D printing thing. As for this specific case it’s obvious the gov wanted records from Ares to see how many lowers the other shop got. Maybe they should play “show me yours and I’ll show you mine” and ask the ATF how many guns they sent down to Mexico illegally.

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  23. Another option I like for a relatively secure storage of 1-2 handguns is the V-Line Quick Vault “in the wall” lockbox (www.vlineind.com). It is made to secure between two wall studs on 16″ centers, and tucks away into the back of your closet in a fairly handy manner, where it is at least obscured by hanging clothes. I shove the clothes aside and open the box when I am home (no kids). Price is upwards of $200. It uses the same Simplex 5-button lock described above, which is easily opened in the dark once you have memorized the setting and practiced a bit. The lockbox inserts flush with the sheetrock, and fits in the depth of a 2×4 wall. it comes with one shelf, and can be installed upside down to allow the door to swing to the side you prefer. They also make one of these that will hold long guns.

    Warning: If your interior closet walls have 2×4 studs on 24″ centers, your installation will involve fixing short (17″ max to fit diagonally through the cut opening) lengths of 2×4 to the inner sides of the studs, to give you a place to anchor the V-line – it took me three 2x4s on one side and two on the other inside the opening, each screwed into place individually, one into the prior one, with those gold-colored fast-twist deck screws. A short, handy 18v Lithium-Ion Makita drill was a definite plus. The whole process took me about three hours, including the search for the scrap 2x4s in my shop, going to the hardware store for the right length deck screws, and the loud cursing involved during the attempts to get the first 2x4s anchored inside the wall where I couldn’t see them. Have fun.

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  24. Without a better lock, the only use of this box really is to keep your gun away from children, and in that case the heavy duty construction is overkill. The decoy aspect is plausible as well, but in that case don’t bolt it down as you’d want them to snatch and grab, not be working on removing it and walk in on them.

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  25. What this article describes sure sounds like D2D. I don’t think the reason they give for coming into your home to take your firearms changes the fact that they came into your home and took your firearms.

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  26. Suddenly I don’t regret impulse buying those two spam cans of 7.62x54R at post-Newtown prices anymore. In the future I’ll enjoy gathering my grandsons around the rocking chair so I can tell them about the long lost days of the $99 Mosin that came with accessories.

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  27. I find it interesting how similar the basic argument against open carry is to the cries for civil disarmament:

    “I don’t like it, so no one should do it.”

    There is absolutely and precisely zero objective evidence (that I’ve ever seen) that it hurts the cause of 2A rights. In fact, the article above seems to suggest that it is working in some areas at least.

    So, anti-OC-ers…I ask you put up or stop whining about it. Do you have any hard data that shows OC (for activist or any other reason) puts off more people than those that convert to “oh, it’s legal and he’s not hurting anyone? Okay.”

    If you don’t have objective data, to me you sound just like Shannon Watts’ twitter feed. Sorry.

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  28. If things had gone awry at least the video cameras were recording. Maybe if Matt accidentally got hurt ‘A Friend’ would just get a ‘negligent homicide’ charge or the coroner would label it ‘Death by Misadventure’.

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