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Can you smell the scent of desperation on Kamala Harris yet? You should. She has dropped 12 points in polling since the first debate. Now, in an effort to resuscitate her failing campaign, she now says wants to send police to confiscate guns from people she deems “bigots.”

While all of her compatriots running for the 2020 Democrat nomination for President espouse gun control, Kamala Harris wants to take it to a whole new level. Ignoring Americans’ First Amendment rights in addition to their Second (and Fifth, Sixth, Ninth and maybe Tenth as well), she’s handing her beer to the other candidates and telling them to watch this . . .

From Reason.com:

Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.), who is seeking the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, says that if elected she will push legislation that would authorize federal courts to issue gun confiscation orders against people who express opinions that may indicate an intent to commit a hate crime. These “domestic terrorism prevention orders” would “temporarily restrict a person’s access to guns if they exhibit clear evidence of dangerousness,” including “violent racist threats or anti-immigrant manifestos.”

Harris’ plan to “disarm violent hate” is pretty vague, so it’s hard to say whether it would be consistent with the First Amendment. If the bill she imagines would merely create a federal “red flag” law focused on a subset of people deemed a threat to others, that would be bad enough, since these laws generally give short shrift to due process. But her description of the problem she is trying to address suggests that constitutionally protected speech might by itself be enough to suspend someone’s Second Amendment rights.

Of course, in the past few years, it seems anyone who disagrees with a Democrat’s opinion is labelled a racist. Or, now, a white supremacist.

So is Harris’s plan really nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to disarm everyone who disagrees with her and her fellow Democrats on social issues?

 

 

 

116 COMMENTS

    • This is a 3 part strategy every gun owner should find chilling.

      1. Pass ” Pre – Crime ” Minority Report style Red Flag Laws.

      2. Criminalize ‘ misdemeanors ‘ as no go for ownership.

      3. Declare social media posts as ” Hate Speech , Harassment or Stalking ” , a misdemeanor.

      Show me the man , I’ll show you the crime as Stalin said.

      • So merely being alive would preclude ownership of firearms. Maybe we should all just die off and save ourselves the hassle. Politicians should go first as a show of lead by example. This crap is after all their idea.

        • True and the Secret Service should be abolished as well, no ICE, no Border Patrol no safety net from Americans……guess I should turn in my guns now!

      • “…show me the man, and I’ll find your crime.”
        Lavrentiy Beria, Deputy Chairman of Counsel of Ministers, told to Joseph Stalin

    • I think kneepad Harris is also recommending we disarm the entire group of Democrat presidential candidates along with the SPLC, Antifa, and nearly every Democrat politician in the country!

      • The nickname “Kneepad” Harris is unfair and derogatory. The callouses on her knees from many years of dutiful practice have eliminated the need for kneepads to ensure her comfort while performing her preferred act.

    • If Kamala doesn’t like the fact that this is a white, Christian nation she should move to one of those shithole African countries (never seen a single successful black nation by the way). I’m sure all her terrific ideas will work wonders on such a hard-working, intelligent group of people.

      • Blazin, you are a racist. The folks here on this site believe in ALL parts of the Constitution for ALL citizens of our great Country. Because of that, we have no room for racists here.

        • Maybe he’s a Democrat. After all, the Democrat party is the party of:
          * slavery
          * secession
          * Jim Crow
          * lynching
          * racial concentration camps

        • He still has his 1st Amendment rights whether you agree with him or not. Furthermore, I am not aware of any authorization you have to speak for others. Just sayin’.

      • Yeah…. That pesky first amendment gets in the way of some people’s feelings…. Therefore they believe you should be silenced for stating bare facts…… Go figure

  1. Alright Ms. Harris, fire your armed security. Can’t have a bigot running around with access to guns, you could overpower a member of your detail and steal their weapon so it’s just safer if we remove the detail.

  2. Can we trade Harris for some actual democracy loving people in Hong Kong? I’m sure the CCP would be happy to trade ten of our demokkkommies for every one of their democrats.

  3. She’s fading fast and that’s a good thing. If Harris was to get elected, the POTG would all be hate criminals soon enough just by definition, because we wouldn’t want to give up our guns for the common good. You like guns? You must be a racist!

  4. The people should demand a gag order on idiot politicians. Oh wait that would mean none of them could utter their nonsense. What a utopia that would be.

    • Or just lock up crazy people. That would be even better. They NEED special care, because they are a danger to them themselves and everyone else.
      We used to have insane asylums for people like her, but now, it seems, the insane asylums are Washington DC and most all State Capitals.

      • But see, that’s the problem. Facts are objective, but feelings & opinions are subjective.

        Who determines if someone is “crazy”? Who determines if someone is a “bigot”? That which offends someone else may not offend me. A person who is labeled a bigot is simply offending the one who made the declaration, but may not be offending me if I agree with that person, and I therefore wouldn’t perceive any bigotry.

        This is a deep rabbit hole, and Alice is peering too far forward as she looks into it.

        • Agreed! If the thought or action isn’t hurting anything more than possible weak feelings than what’s the harm? I say get some thicker skin and get over it. On the other hand these idiot politicians aren’t going for mere hurtful words, they are resorting to the proverbial sticks and stones so to speak. Seems a bit too much like allowing the patients to operate on the patients. Of course what could go wrong wrong right? Here hold my beer and let’s see!

        • And, in my opinion, she looks down into that bottomless hole, and feels compelled to jump. That is one piece of evidence I would use that she isn’t mentally stable.
          But it goes deeper that. For SJWs like her, it isn’t enough to just jump, they need to force everyone else to jump also.
          That is what changes her from just insane, into the realm of “criminally insane”. The intense desire to force everyone else, via violence, into their insanity.
          No one cares about a village idiot who just runs around arguing with garbage cans (a real example, there is exactly such an old lady in the town I live near, which is officially “the middle of nowhere” (search that if you care to)). But when that village idiot starts carrying a baseball bat around and making threats? Well, now everybody starts to care, even if the threats ARE only against a garbage can…. for now.

      • Sounds like all the left and anyone who actually uses the word bigot. Incapable of accepting that other peoples opinions may be to completely discard a leftist’s, or simple differing opinions.

  5. Will members of LEO be able to keep their jobs once the tsunami of red flags rolls over them?
    These idiotic notions if implemented will lead to total chaos. It seems that is exactly what leftist, progressive, democrats want.

    • Chaos and violence is EXACTLY what the demoncRats want! Create enough chaos, fear, and violence and the selfish, weak minded people, the vast majority, will gladly give up every vestige of liberty for the mere promise of safety. It is a tried and true method of leftists to destroy an existing society. Given our corrupt education system and the general weakness of your average person I am very pessimistic I will outlive our beloved Constitution and our liberties, at least until the leftist “disappear” us remaining people who still remember what freedom was like, just like Mao slaughtered millions of older Chinese to purge the corporate memory of what was before he seized power.

  6. “Weaponized Red Flag Laws/Extreme Risk Protection Orders × Politicians – U.S. Constitutional/Bill of Rights = Authoritarianism/Vindictive Corporate Fascism/Governmental Paternalism !!!”

    A formula to be afraid 😨 of….!

  7. Most of them want to fade away, and find a loophole to hide their funding money , I read a story about Beto and his Hollywood billions that he had gone through to beat Cruz and had no record to show for it, just getting rich off the donors, I could care less, but I do see a pattern and I don’t much hear about Hollywood backing him anymore

  8. Kamala has joined in the chorus labeling POTUS and all of his supporters as BIGOTS so I guess she wants em all, IF you are a conservative and we are very aware that Liberals cannot be bigots/racists because they said so…

  9. Does she think that we don’t know what she’s planning? Castro right after he seized power in Cuba in 1959 went on the radio and “warned” the people that the revolution wasn’t over yet and that for the “common good” he needed to seize the rest of rest of the people’s guns to keep them out of the hands of the Batiste’s. “But don’t worry.” He said. “As soon as the emergency is lifted, you’ll get them back.” That was in 1959 and now it’s 2019 (sixty years) and their still waiting.

    • Hell she already told us that if elected POTUS she would give Congress 100 days to enact “meaningful” gun control legislation and after that she would revert to the Obama “pen and phone” method… Newsflash to Kamala, the president cannot over ride the US Constitution and any anti 2nd amendment shit you scribble out with your pen will wind up in a pro Constitution Supreme Court..

  10. Time for her to loose her armed security. Cant have bigoted guards.
    After that hows about she have a mental checkup. Cant have a certified nutcase bigot running for any office.

  11. Harris and people like her are why I say: Libertarians Liberals and the Left supported the Klu Klux Klan marching in black neighborhoods while carrying guns.

    But the Liberals and the Left never supported law-abiding black people carrying guns. Libertarians you have publicly supported single motherhood saying it’s just a lifestyle choice. And that requires a Welfare Industrial Complex. And “gun free zone” public housing projects. Which you support as well.

    The three L’s also support the Klu Klux Klan right to burn a cross on the private property of a black person.

    Reason magazine called Harris “a cop who wants to be president”. Based on her history as California AG, I agree with them. But I would call her a corrupt cop as well.

    She’s just another hypocrite liberal Pig with a gun.

    • What she really means is seize the guns from Trump voters. That is a scary approach to verbalise and recommend. This can only get worse. Scary times.

  12. We need to criminalize adultery.

    This is why women don’t belong in elected office. 50 years ago we wouldn’t have to deal with this crap.

    And she’s married to a Jew, and they are the biggest bigots of all. Wake up goyim. She’s not even African-American, and her family owned slaves.

      • There is historical evidence that allowing anybody who doesn’t own property to vote has a distinctly negative impact on the health of a nation-state. I say we roll back to basics… If you don’t pay more in taxes than you receive in direct benefits, no vote for you.

        • I agree with ALL of the above!

          Repeal the 19th, only allow taxpayers / landowners / people with families (married with children) to vote.

          The idea of universal suffrage was foreign to our founding fathers.

          Say what you will about the evil Hillary, but at least she:
          -didn’t commit adultery / stayed married
          -had a kid

          They all belong in jail, but President Kamala would be the ultimate affront to humanity. If that happens, it’s time to secede!

          Also- Kamala should be require to disclose which politicians she slept with: willie brown, beau Biden, etc…

        • I thought aristocracy went out with the British in the late 1700’s, how silly of me. I am a land and property owner and there’s no way in hell I would put myself in such an ass hat class of losers. Owning land and property doesn’t make someone special. When death comes and it comes to us all, someone else takes over your precious land and property and the worms claim you as theirs. Must be a pretty tall soapbox to mount that high horse.

        • Historically women who owned land voted in American elections. And many women did vote. With the death of a husband the property ownership automatically was hers.
          Around the time of the War of 1812 laws were passed to prevent women from voting. Because the women were not voting the way the men wanted them to. They won’t teach you that in American history classes.

          Personally I’m researching this to find out what the details are.

    • I strongly disagree with Harris and even dislike her. She is a bad politician, was a bad AG and would be a bad president. But I fail to see how it is her fault what color she is or what her family owned or did before she was born. (And I would also leave her ugly face out of the argument.)

  13. Kamala and the “squad” are bigger RACIST than the Grand Wizard. They openly display their own hatred of White Males. That is both racist and sexist all at once.

    • Who’s talking about threats? She means any disagreement with her open borders and reparations to anyone with dark skin policies.

  14. Bigots on WHICH side? You means we could take guns away from leftists who are bigoted against the right? Or take them from Blacks who keep insisting Whites are prejudiced? That, dear lady, is a form of bigotry! You were a State Attorney General? Really?

  15. We do not need to take weapons away from bigots or hate mongers. Be they right or left wing, capitalist or socialist, race haters or religion haters, none of these are by themselves reasons to take rights away from people. I say that knowing full well there are certain beliefs out there I’d like to see pounded into the crap dump of history, but we Americans are supposed to be tolerant of the Right of Free Speech, Free Thought, Free Association.

    We DO NEED to take away guns and arrest anyone with the plans, the intent, the means to commit a crime. All three are required, planning with no means or intent is a just someone exercising their fantasy, it takes all three. This has always been true, we do not have to wait for the criminal act tohappen if there is evidence of a conspiracy or criminal plan.

    One way we catch bad guys before they kill or rob is undercover stings.

    Another way is what the US Secret Service does in protecting the President:
    Early Detection
    Threat assessment
    Planned Intervention

    Most threats amount to nothing. A few amount to plans, intent and means.

    Right now the attention this approach is getting is running high and the application is panicked, desperate and running from little or no training in police agencies all over the country. Here’s an example of what is going on out there:

    “At least 27 people have been arrested over threats to commit mass attacks since the El Paso and Dayton shootings”
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/us/mass-shooting-threats-tuesday/index.html

    This is the sort of thing we need to get very good at. Not the gun grabs and the licensing and the registering and all that other crap. We need to train our law enforcement in the same approach that keeps Donald Trump in Cheeto facials.

    Early Detection – “See Something Say Something”, watching social media, tip lines.

    Threat assessment – It’s not one mental health doctor telling one judge. It’s a combined team of trained people from different aspects of the problem assessing the threat, if any realy exists and how severe.

    Planned Intervention – Most cases, the Secret Service takes the Threat assessment and simply does a low key interview. Finds nothing and that’s it. Very infrequently it’s a raid, a SWAT team, the works.

    That’s just one part of what works and what would protect the Second Amendment. Prevent the attacks in the first place and the public clamor to do stupid things that feel good but solve nothing will die down.

    It is the body count that is not our fault that is endangering our rights and we are very late in putting attention on the problem where it belongs. Human Violence, a contagious behavioral problem, not a gun problem.

  16. Too bad for her the rest of the pack went to 11 on the “white supremacy” canard. Hard to stand out that way. Then, Tulsi turned her into the pig who threw drug users and minorities into prison and kept them there. That’s potentially every Democrat Party voters’ family member or themselves. Fatality.

  17. “So is Harris’s plan really nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to disarm everyone who disagrees with her and her fellow Democrats on social issues?” And under Harris’ plan, who gets to decide who is a bigot? Why, she does – and it’s anybody who doesn’t agree with her and everything she’s ever thought or said in her whole life! She didn’t say anything about reeducation camps for those she considers bigots, but I’m sure they’re in there somewhere. Even after her presidential campaign fails, she’ll still be around as a talking head on the Communist News Network or MSNBC. So she’s not going to go away into obscurity. The scary thing is that she’s not the only one…

  18. She should start with her fellow California Congresscritter Maxine Waters. Someone should red flag law her for inciting violence.

    • Where is ‘ol Mad Maxie, anyway? Did she finally clutch her chest and fall down somewhere? Haven’t heard anything from her in a long time.

  19. So EVERYONE who opposes the unrestricted mass migration of illegals across the border and is vocal about it should have there gun confiscated “temporarily”.

    The sad thing is if it becomes law all the courts including the supreme court will say it’s constitutional. But then again to the courts banning all gun and private gun ownership with door to door confiscation and the execution without trial of all gun owners who oppose and sending the ones that do give up to camps to be worked to death or simply exterminated is constitutional.

    • I think that by now we’re all mutts, so the term “race” doesn’t really mean much anymore.

      Kinda shines a new spotlight on the oft-used phrase “but we’re all part of one human race…we’re simply of different ethnicities.”

      • I’ve had both and my “mutts” have always been the best dogs. The papered ones have, without exception, been as dumb as a box of rocks. My current spaniel/basset hound cross understands almost every word I say, and can even speak about five.
        I’m half Norwegian (thus the Knute…) and half Serbian myself. So, yes, we’re all mutts and mutts are good. So, race shouldn’t mean anything, and doesn’t to people. Unfortunately, sheeple disagree.

        • Yes. Since the censorship hammer so obviously came down here, I’m mostly over there now. Knute has been working great. Its so obscure that no one else seems to want it, so it avoids confusion…

        • Had a male English Mastiff from 7 1/2 weeks old that got to 227 lb before he got cancer at age 8, died 14 months and $7500.00 later 10 days short of his 10th birthday, AKC, perfect bones/hips, beautiful dog, protected my wife like she was his own mother.. As near as I could figure he had an understanding of about 250 words, always talked to him in complete sentences no baby talk… Be 4 years Nov. 5th and I still miss him….

  20. As Leftardism is a mental illness perhaps if Kami the Clam is locked away in a mental facility,if not for her own protection then the American public at large.

  21. That ‘idea’ isn’t going anywhere, the next Leftist will add it to their list…

  22. big·ot /ˈbiɡət/ noun
    a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

    Does she know the meaning of the word? She is a living example.

  23. “violent racist threats or anti-immigrant manifestos.”

    I guess I have to draw a picture for you Jethro’s and Hillbillies. Your monster F-150’s and Dodge Rams that you road rage with are symbols of your racist attitude toward POC, immigrants, and indigenous peoples. The AR-15’s that you worship are the tools of your genocide against people of color and the soon to be president Harris knows this well. Your singular hatred toward POC is being exposed by the one person that you cannot stop. Your white supremacist testosterone – filled aggression against us will be put down once and for all in 2021 by the people you hate the most – that is, the people who you took this country from. What will you do when the K-9 teams sniff out your buried WMD’s? What will you do when the white house becomes a sanctuary for POC? What will you do when your neighbors turn you in for possession of a firearm? You Jethro’s and Hillbillies always say, “… duh, well we got the guns… duh” That may be true but you don’t have the numbers. Every day more and more people join with POC. Antifa, BLM, the Transgender groups are all coming together to fight against the racist, white supremacist. All those whom you have oppressed for the past 200 years are fighting back. Your days are numbered. Live with that.

    • There you are Vlad, thought maybe your mother was monitoring your stuff again since you’ve been fairly mellow the last couple of days.. Anyway FYI since they probably don’t teach it at Saul Alinsky High, but JETHRO IS a HILLBILLY so you are actually being unnecessarily redundant when you address Jethros AND Hillbillys.. Just trying to help.. And an F-150 is NOT really a monster you need to step up to a Super Duty (preferably an F-350 Dually all wheel drive DIESEL) now THAT is a monster. POC OWNED the White House (and we all survived quite nicely), the DOJ and 90% of the cabinet and agency positions for 8 years and your Libtard buddies owned the House and Senate for two years of that time period and WHAT did they do with it? They pissed it away pushing a bullshit run at single payer health care which had to be modified and finally became Obamacare because the people have no appetite for single payer… As for numbers I think you really need to do a serious rethink on that one… And I’ve oppressed no one in my lifetime let alone for 200 years. You talk about white supremacist testosterone – filled aggression and then go off about the cowards of Antifa and the Liberal tools in BLM and the LGBTADCVB whatever FIGHTING BACK, that IS the JOKE of the DAY… Don’t start shit that you don’t have the stomach to finish.. and yeah I CAN live with THAT…..

    • I see the “Satan is the Master of all…. boowhahahahahah”, Vlad has returned. Been a long time. What… two months now since you got a turn at the keyboard?

    • That’s interesting. All I want to do is protect my family from predators and home-invaders, yet you castigate me and accuse me of being a “white racist,” merely for wanting to do the same thing you would want to do for your own family? I’m hardly a “hillbilly,” yet you generalize by thinking I drive a pickup truck and yell “YAHOO,” as I drive down the road picking off anything that moves with a rifle that I don’t own?

      You are one sick puppy!

    • Wow! This clown is one weirdo! He should be turned in to the authorities under the Red Flag laws. Any takers?

    • Go for it, Baby. You and your other idiot hate-filled friends are ripe for being put into a huge mental institution.

    • Ol’ Vlad, spray painted over his swastikas, and. SS skulls and replaced the with a hammer and sickle so he could carry on his deep seated hatred against mankind and feel justified like his old buddies running the previous death camps in Germany, the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia. Sadly the world never seems to be free of murderous sickos like ol’ Vlad the impaler here. Dracula indeed.

  24. This suggestion should alert anyone supporting ‘red flag’ laws as to the potential for abuse. You wouldn’t even have to own a weapon to be subject to investigation by this standard, so all you soccer moms better watch what you say at your coffee klatch.

  25. The only people in this world who are not racist are idiot whites who are afraid of being called names by communists.

    • No. According to that great mind Jessie Jackson the oppressed cannot be the oppressors.
      This one is for the white guys and girls to put them in their place. Would not be the first time reverse racism was a thing. Of course Kamala oppressed POC as AG in her role when she needed support of white people to advance her career.
      It’s not the job of POTUS to issue declarative laws about things which piss the POTUS off. Bans and unbans on abortion funding on military bases was a thing between Clinton and Bush1 and Bush2 but generally most presidents stay out of such frays
      She won’t be president nor Biden’s running mate so it’s a shit show now and that’s all.

  26. You should be sued for throwing that face in front of me as I scrolled down. I thought for a moment I was being attacked by an alien. Whew!

  27. Her and others like her will be starting a war, one which innocent American Citizens will have to pay for with their blood, move over Hitler, make room for the next genocidal lunatic that will one up you.

  28. Harris is deficient in her understanding of the Constitution and the inter-locking/ cross-dependency of the various Articles which result in not being able to do something because it violates a provision under some other article. She would not know this or wish to follow it because to a liberal/progressive the Constitution is a stumbling block to the ‘will’ of a politician. She, by her past performance and her performance and sayings on the campaign trail show she is unfit to lead this country.

  29. There is nothing wrong with law abiding bigots having guns.
    Seriously.
    That’s why EVERYONE should have guns and as many as they can afford. And stockpiles of ammunition.

  30. If she wants to get guns away from bigots, she’ll need to turn in hers and those that belong to her security detachment.

  31. She needs to define bigot. Her skirts might not be all that clean.

    On what legal basis would she undertake what she proposes.

    How would she go about achieving this strange dream of hers.

    The foregoing are just a couple of the more obvious points that come to mind.

  32. This is the same attitude held by all leftist tyrants in history from Stalin, Hitler, Mos, Pol Pot, Castro, et al. She and her fellow leftist travellers are nothing but current day iterations of those past tyrants. She is targeting anyone who she sees a a political opponent, conservatives, primarily white people. With “hate speech” or being a “bigot” is basically defined by her no opposing speech to anything she believes will be tolerated. All like the tyrants before her she will make dissenters disappear after they have been disarmed. Plenty of room in Alaska to place folks for re-education. It is a sickness in the minds of leftists that makes them believe they have the knowledge of all “ultimate truth” and natural right to rule over the lives of others. They do not accept the notion of servant leadership, no they are the masters of others. They are not here to serve, they are here to rule and if you won’t bend your knees willingly to them, they will bend them for you. It is why we see leftist fazist-antifa types assaulting innocent men, women, and children who do not espouse their tyrannical leftist worldview.. You don’t agree with leftist then you are an animal and fair game. We are on the verge of losing the first and last vestige of this noble experiment in individual liberty the world has ever known and given the weapons and technologies available to tyrants individual liberty will never exist again. I pray America will turn back from its love affair with leftist tyranny before it is too late. God save us.

  33. Great idea, Willies Side Piece. Issue red flags on most college campuses for all the bigoted professors and administration types.

  34. Being a bigot, a racist, a xenophobe, a homophobe a misogynist… is NOT against the law. As a matter of fact expressing one’s beliefs, even if it is to say, I don’t like this group or that group is protected speech.

    It may be morally reprehensible, but it is not against the law. So for Harris to suggest that people should be denied fundamental human rights such as are protected in our Constitution and BIll of Rights based on an individual’s personal beliefs is as close to being a socialist dictator like HITLER as I’ve ever seen.

    Harris would see entire segments of the population disarmed and left defenseless against the potential of a tyrannical government or criminal element, just because she does not like the way they think.

    What’s next, making them wear stars?

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