In yet another example of exemplary gun-handling – not to mention stellar emergency preparedness – an (always) un-named Chicago Police Departemt sarge had a mishap with his service revolver Monday morning. “The gun went off around 9:40 p.m. Monday in the Chicago Alternative Policing (CAPS) office at the district station at 18th and State streets,” chicagotribune.com reports. “No one was injured, but officers noticed a trickle of water from the first-floor ceiling that turned into a gushing stream. The downpour ruined computers and desks, but a damage estimate wasn’t immediately available” . . .
Workers for the City With Big Shoulders didn’t manage to stanch the flow until later that night, by which time the bankrupt city had incurred a huge repair bill. The deluge also forced the CHI Town po-po to transfer the station’s 15 prisoners to dryer ground. The Trib assures Chicagoland that the fumble-fingered sergeant will face department discipline as a result of his negligent discharge, but that’s about as likely as the likelihood of disclosing his name.
Do CPD sergeants undergo 16 hours of mandatory firearms training? Just wondering.
Taking hours to stop the flow of water is a result of the guy in the dickie’s work clothes and the jangly ring of keys having to be called in from off duty to turn the valve to shut the water off. Saw this I don’t know how many times in federal and state service. Water pipes get damaged or fail and nobody except the janitor knows how to locate the valve, let alone turn it off.
Saw water damage to a federal building that extended to 7 floors before the old guy with the green work clothes unlocked one door and spun one valve.
Truly priceless watching the over educated prove how worthless they are. After 30 years I had to relearn how to walk without that ring of keys.
Sarge did his first desk pop..
Did he get a wooden gun?
Service Revolver? Sweet!
Cop NDs gun, police station trashed.
“Boy, that escalated quickly!”
Just goes to show you you can never be too careful.
Ha, anyone else think of the scene when Will Ferrell pops his first “desk pop” in “The Other Guys”?
First thing I thought of
I guess The Founding Fathers, many of whom were lawyers, were legal slouches compared to this paragon of legal knowledge. They need him to tell us the plain meaning of words. I guess the likes of John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, & Aaron Burr could not rise to the intellectual level that this man so clearly possesses.
Anti’s use nothing but fear and emotion. To combat it, called them out on the facts and also called them out on what they know about firearms and the people who use them. Another great example of this is Emily Miller vs Piers Morgan.
After nine at night is in the “morning?”
“Bankrupt?” That’s Detroit.
Finally, he damaged the cop shop, which is “much more serious” than beating up a grandmother or shooting puppies, so he’ll likely get penalized – maybe a garnishment or some such to help cover repairs.
Who needs a 100 round drum??
Who needs a 30 round magazine??
Who needs a 15 round magazine??
Who needs a 7 round magazine??
Who needs a magazine??
Who needs a single shot rifle??
Who needs firearms??
See where this is going?
Laugh and joke all you want… That punk a$$ plumbing is going to show a lot more respect to The Man.
“The Chicago Police… Putting “copper” into plumbing repair”
(Rim shot )
One of the reasons the 2nd Amendment was even written into the Constitution was to prevent a tyrannical government from stepping all over an unarmed populace largely unable to defend itself. Another was in order to ensure that if the need should ever arise, should an enemy bring the fight to our home and hearth, the ENTIRE COUNTRY would serve as its militia. Not only the appointed military, but the men and women who call this country their home. Why do people not see this? What is so difficult to understand about this?
Sounds like somebody’s first desk pop!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948-2Vzgi3w
Article reads ND occurred Monday morning. Quote says ~940pm Monday.
OK wise guys, when you ND your new toy at home, where you wont be embarrassed by the press reports, do you have the knowledge and skills to locate your water shutoff, gas and power shutoffs and where the building and street shutoffs are located, and do you have the tools to shut um off?
Am betting some of you dont.
we wont discuss the ability to make temporary repairs to same.
do you have the knowledge and skills to locate your water shutoff, gas and power shutoffs
Absolutely.
If I lived in an apartment it may be another story, but in that case you have bigger things to worry about.
Please state your point clearly, and stop pretending like this happens to everybody, so no big deal.
It’s alright to be a little embarrassed, Sarge, but you gotta take responsibility.
“The gun went off…”
Now THERE’S taking ownership for a negligent act.
As everyone well knows (except maybe a hoplophobe) no gun just “goes off”.
Looks like CPD is taking advantage of the antis’ rhetoric about inanimate guns just ‘going off’ on their own volition in order to shift or soften blame that should be directed toward the idiot who clearly needs more practice with their gun handling and safety skills.
And what’s the “Alternative Policing (CAPS) office”; is that the skate and walk club?
Maybe if these pictures were bigger than low-res thumbnails….
I could only find one…….
Look at base points for a relatively clear field of fire. That works well for all but the rocky gorge.
Spotted six, but only because I knew there was a sniper there to begin with which isn’t really fair. And I was only *sure* of two of them (the two where you can see the guy’s scope as a perfect circle), the rest were mostly guesses based on where he could be and what didn’t look right.
Once you realize that the camera has the viewpoint of the sniper’s target, you can filter out most of the picture as places where a sniper definitely wouldn’t be if he wanted to shoot at the camera.
The one where the guy set up a fake hide blew my mind. I totally thought I had him. =/
I spotted three on his site. but like others have said, it was only because I knew that there was a sniper to look for. Interesting photos. I’d like to know what changes they made to their uniforms for the different terrain.
There truly is no fool like an old fool.
I’d submit, humbly, that the problem the 10mm /40 S&W was designed to address has been solved via better 9mm loadings.
Back in the late 70’s , pistoleros had two broad choices.A 9mm loaded with lots of small bullets which may or may not expand as intended, or a few big ol bullets like a .45 ACP or bigger. The development of the 10mm sought to address the problem of capacity vs power, and for a time it did.
Problem was, a gun which can handle full power 10mm comfortably has to be a big piece. Big guns are a pain to carry, as the FBI discovered. And 10mm isn’t for a novice or casual shooter.
In the meantime, as 10mm rounds were breaking Bren Tens and Delta Elites, the manufacturers of 9mm rounds were toiling and came out with the loads we like and use today. Now, I can go to Wally World and buy a box of 9mm JHP which will open up reliably . Why bother with a bigger bullet which wears out guns faster and is harder to shoot when a 9mm can be stuffed with 17+ rounds of similarly effective ammunition?
I’d thus submit the .40 is an obsolete caliber. The 10mm has a niche as a hunting round for semi autos, but it’s smaller cousin is a ballistic version of the 56K modem.
Ridiculous. The .40 can push 135 – 200 grain JHPs faster and with more power than the 9mm +P+ could ever hope to achieve. The 9mm sucks for knocking down bowling pins, where the .45 rules. The 9mm isn’t great for knocking down some metallic silhouettes, either. On the LAPD range, the range master has to re-set metallic targets or the 9mm won’t knock them down.
The .40 has more power than the 9mm and more capacity than the .45. It’s that ‘obsolete’ caliber that you can find anywhere, because its in use by police agencies and shooters all over the nation. Anyone who doesn’t like the .40 just leaves more ammo for me.
The 9mm and .45 are great calibers. I enjoy the massive capacity of the 9mm and the accuracy and momentum of the .45. If the .40 is obsolete, Hornady, Federal, Winchester, Remington, Underwood, Buffalo Bore, Fiochhi, CCI, Herter’s, and Co haven’t ever received that memo.
The reason why I like 9×19 is because it’s very easy and comfortable to shoot in large quantities.
The reason why many people like .45ACP is because it’s big.
Never felt the need for middle ground. 10mm Auto is another story.
Thats ok, this is a wonderfull person keeping the public safe. I guess cops aren’t public, run cop run./// If we ever get out of this with the hide still on our ass one of the laws I would really like to see is that a non LEO cannot be held to a higher standard than cops.
Just another article about ammunition and the virtues of any choice over the other. It’s been going on…..well forever on every single weapon….ever. It will continue to carry on as long as man walks this planet or other planets. There are drawbacks and advantages to every weapon and caliber. None is perfect for every person in every situation. To be honest, I try to avoid these articles because when it really comes down to it, it’s the same thing every time. The only reason I even bothered to read this one is because I carry P229 in .40. Beyond that, this shit bores me to death. Choose a weapon, choose a caliber, choose a few if you like, but STFU about it. How many times does this same conversation have to happen?
“Buck Savage” videos were part of training back in the 80’s.
“The hands… Watch the hands”
Seesh. OODA Loop, Condition Orange, blah blah blah.
Here’s an important self defense tip — PAY ATTENTION. How hard is that?
If you don’t pay attention when you come downstairs for your morning bowl of Fruit Loops, you’re going to step on your kid’s little toy truck, fall down the stairs and break your damn fool neck.
And yes, you can pay attention all the time, you won’t overdose on testosterone or cortisol, you won’t go crazy and your neighbors will not think that you’re bonkers.
Thanks for the history lesson.
But it doesn’t change the fact that most people shoot the .40 much much worse than they shoot the same gun in 9mm. Amazingly they usually shoot it worse than a smilarly sized gun in .45.
I don’t know why, but the .40 has a recoil impulse that screws with people. It just plain doesn’t work for most people.
Ive taught hundreds of people to shoot and most do better with a .45 than they do with a Glock loaded in .40. I understand physics. I understand F=MA, I understand what a foot-lb is. I dont’ know why this is true. But it is.
Defensive shooting is about getting the maximum amount of lead down range as fast as possible while maintaining moderate accuracy. By this measure, most .40s fail miserably.
Most people’s splits between shots with a .40 are almost 2x what they are with a 9mm when using proper aimed fire out of a carry sized gun.
Don’t get me wrong. My reloads out of my 40 oz 2011 based Brazos limited gun are a pleasure to shoot. But factory ammo out of most polymer framed guns is just not conducive to fast and accurate fire.
The ONE recent exception I’ve found is the Glock 22 gen 4. It seems the double spring system in the Gen 4 guns tame the snappiness of the recoil better than the old system. But for the most part, changing a gun from 9mm to .40 merely makes it miserable to shoot.
Nowhere is this more true than with the Kahr PM9 and PM40. The PM9 is an amazing little gun in that despite being so small, its an absolute pleasure to shoot. The PM40 is just an evil, vile little thing.
Don
He “open fired?” as apposed that what, closed fired? What a stupid expression. Good for the good guy!
Pretty sure Woody has NO GUN in his holster. Not with the original toy. SOMEONE IS PULLING YOUR LEG…but hey what do I know.
”You can carry a weapon openly if this bill is adopted and I’m offended by that,” said committee chair Sen. Larry Martin (R-Pickens).
I’m offended by you thinking it’s fine to infringe South Carolinians’ rights just because the exercise of those rights offends you.
In a just world you’d be run out of town on a rail and wearing feathers by the end of the day.