The House of Representatives is looking to vote on the new Undetectable Firearms Act bill, proposed by Rep. Steve Israel, which would re-implement and expand the previous incarnation. Not only would the new bill ban 3D printed firearms, but it would ban “any major component of which, when subjected to inspection by the types of x-ray machines commonly used at airports, does not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the component.” What that means exactly is up to the interpretation of the Attourney General, Eric Holder, who is not exactly a friend of gun rights. So those polymer AR-15 receivers might soon be illegal if they don’t meet with holder’s approval. The bill also extends the ban to include plastic magazines that are printed in the home . . .
From the bill:
(C) any ammunition magazine, manufactured by a person who is not a licensed manufacturer—
(i) that, after removal of the spring and follower, is not as detectable as the Magazine Security Exemplar, by walk-through metal detectors calibrated and operated to detect the Magazine Security Exemplar; or
(ii) which, when subjected to inspection by the types of x-ray machines commonly used at airports, does not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the magazine.
So, unless you are licensed to manufacture magazines, you can’t make plastic ones. And since there is currently no licensing process for magazines, Magpul would be out of business.
The bill is an over-reaching knee jerk reaction to 3D printed guns, and has the potential to make it a felony to print any firearms part in your own home or if you don’t have a license. It won’t stop criminals, but it will make them out of those who own 3D printers.
The bill could be up for a vote as early as this afternoon, and we will keep you in the loop. For those wanting to make their voices heard the GOA has a website where you can write your congressional representatives.
Well, so much for any good will that “Crocodile Dundee” might have engendered.
Lets hit the phones people!
This is OUR GOVERNMENT!
Put down the coffee, step away from the reloading bench, and call your congresscritters office.We need to make it clear that ANY gun related regulation is an automatic NO vote.
Rest assured-Suzy Gungrabber is calling HER rep.You should be too!
ST, this comment:
This is OUR GOVERNMENT!
You cannot be naive enough to believe this government is “OURS”. Since when? Here’s the answer, never. Politicians and bureaucrats have NEVER, EVER, in the history of mankind, been “FOR” the people.
So, make your phone calls, write your Congressman. Fat lot of good that will do you. They will vote they way that keeps them in office, or puts money in their pocket.
A 16 inch AR15 is compact enough for a trunk. Law tactical makes a folding AR stock that was made for this very purpose.
How exactly would they know I printed a magazine? Or a gun part?
They are grasping at straws here. There is no way to stop 3D printing. 5 years from now there will be millions of 3D printers in the US and there is absolutely no way they can stop any of this.
Criminal laws don’t prevent anything, nor do they intend to. They provide for punishment of certain conduct. So laws that prohibit 3D printing of guns won’t stop 3D printing of guns any more than laws against murder stop murder. But god help you if you get caught after breaking the law.
On a side note, based on the snip-it from the proposed bill:
“(C) any ammunition magazine, manufactured by a person who is not a licensed manufacturer—”
If you buy a legal parts kit, and build it, i.e. put all the parts together. That is considered manufacturing. Even if you plan to block it to ten rounds to be CA legal, it is still considered manufacturing and at least from CA standard gun companies here have to now get their magazines made out of state. And many, like Franklin Armory have moved much of their operations out of state.
It says ANY ammunition magazine, not just all plastic magazines. Thus even if you disassemble your magazine to parts, clean refurbish and reassemble, you are manufacturing. At least under CA law you are, and I would also assume federal law would also interpret this in the same manner.
Let’s ponder this a moment shall we?
Emails sent. Thanks, Nick for the 411.
Meh, Canada…. explains the confusion. Don’t know if they have access to a Merriam-Webster dictionary, but it reveals this:
ar·se·nal noun \ˈärs-nəl, ˈär-sə-\
: a collection of weapons
: a place where weapons are made or stored
: a group of things or people that are available to be used
Full Definition of ARSENAL
1
a : an establishment for the manufacture or storage of arms and military equipment
b : a collection of weapons
2
: store, repertoire
So according to the dictionary, any “collection” of weapons is an arsenal. Does two count? How about three? Me thinks hyperbole is at work.
Hyperbole: Full Definition of HYPERBOLE
: extravagant exaggeration (as “mile-high ice-cream cones”)
Examples of HYPERBOLE
Four decades later we’re all blabbermouths, adrift on a sea of hyperbole, shouting to be heard. —Steve Rushin, Sports Illustrated, 1 Apr. 2002
They probably couldn’t have picked worse locations in some of these states…
In NJ, it’s in front of a church on a narrow one-way semi-residential street at least a few blocks from anywhere that more than a handful of local neighbors will see them.
So making toy guns (or toys that might look like a gun part), or parts that might be construed as a gun part (i.e. fixing a home appliance, for example), or non-functional models of firearms, would be a crime?
With the above, let your congress rep know your thoughts! they pay more attention to email/phone/letters than to any post on a blog out there.
How do they expect to detect these “non-detectable firearms”? Isn’t it like “can God make a rock so big even he can’t lift it?”
“..,,We do not want the American disease imported into Australia.”
Fnck John Howard. Australia and I will never meet.
Dodson is a government employee. He is just like every other government employee, a thug with low morals and suspect character.
Doesn’t anyone know that this G34 has been on the web for over a year now?
As far as I can tell, it’s been around since before mid-August of 2012. The CAD files can be found in DefDist mega packs. They have been available before and are still available via torrent. The Renderings and jpeg are in those packs.
Excellent review , I really do like this firearm and when I seen it on CTD.com for $630 bucks I just had to have it . Shipping took a little while considering the ship date fell on Veterans Day, but all things considered it made it to my FFL in a timely fashion. I expected the m10 at FFL and everything seemed fine, fit seemed good, finish is some what finicky & crude but what the hell, it’s an Akm right? So I accepted the transfer. Got it home, gave it a little tlc with some simple green to rid of packing grease and all was dandy or atleast so I thought, I did happen to notice what seems like a cant either in the front sight gas block & rear sight or the barrel. The sights seem maybe an 1/8th of an inch off to the left and the barrel seems a tiny bit to the right. So I’m kinda pissed off at this point & didn’t get a chance to take it to the range until about a week later , gun functioned like a champ shooting nothing but some Walmart special, steel cased 122 gr. FMJ tulammo, & I’m not surprised, theirs not that much that’ll stop an ak from firing, that is unless something’s really fudged up. Anywho, I didn’t bench rest the rifle considering the rainy/cold shitty weather we were having here that day in the north east. But I did tolerate enough of it to burn up about 300 rounds in about an hour and a half . Firing this weapon as intended; standing up I was hitting my targets from 25 yards without a problem after a few adjustments at the RPK style rear sight . But I figure at 25 yards you’re not going to notice whether or not if your guns poi is off or not , or atleast not that much , but in the same hand at 100yds that’s going to be a whole different story . Once I bench it @ 100 and see where I’m hitting I’ll decide whether I should get in touch with M+M to take advantage of its 1 years warranty or not . I realize those guys are busy as all hell trying to get those guns out, I understand supply and demand but when you pay a reasonable amount of money for a firearm as a consumer you expect good craftsmanship and quality control . The gun is great besides one tight ass fitting UTG quad-rail (FYI; I had a hell of a time getting tht sucker back on properly after disassembly, had to bust out the file to get the bottom section of the rail to fit onto receiver and the front sight gas block assembly properly) & the crook in sights or barrel this gun would be excellent and highly recommended for the value. Maybe I got the lemon out of the bunch, I don’t know . Has anyone had this problem and did they get in touch with M+m for repairs ? If so please let me know how it went and whether I should send it back or not . Thanks for your time . Stay safe , shoot straight, and protect and defend our 2nd amendment by anymeans, nowadays anymore that’s all that we really have left as Americans .
What a wonderful story. About a rootin’-tootin’, square-shootin’ family. What a pity that New Jersey no longer exists.
Love it! Great read. Thanks for sharing.
SWATing would be a thing of the past of cops actually did some police work before descending on someone’s home like Taras Bulba laying siege to Dubno Castle.
SWATing exploits the cops’ willingness to be a half-assed assault force. If cops were cops, SWATing would be relegated to bad science fiction novels.
It’s actually a Glock made of compressed cheese whiz. DG had it right all along.
I pre-purchased the stock and finally got it in, the fit is good, The mag was tight and needs to be heated. But the rear bolt insert nut was an issue, it was loose and just spins. I contacted Tyler with their tech support and he advised the stock has to be replaced (known weak issue). SOOOO I sent it in for the RA and emailed them the tracking. A week after they received it I called and got the receptionist. She said the stock had not been checked in as of yet but she would let Tyler know that I called on the RA. I asked for them to contact me to let me know when it is coming back to me. 4 days later still no contact. This is not giving me a warm fuzzy about this company.
Plastic guns still require ammo. Last I checked, 99% of ammo has plenty of metal that is detectable. Even plastic cased ammo has a metal bullet, primer, and probably a rim.
Lets look at the math
Detectable = metal detectors.
Metal detectors = gun free zone
Person w/ gun + Gunfree Zone = Criminal
Since we are talking criminals. I am sure passing another gun law will keep a criminal from breaking said law. Criminals don’t break laws? Do they?
Nevermind that the use of SWAT teams dramatically REDUCES the likelihood of casualties (“good guy”, “bad guy” and innocent bystanders alike) – despite a few very RARE though highly publicized instances to the contrary.
Quit bad-mouthing and alienating the few public employees who might still be on our side in the great gun debate.
THIS is what Obama wants as he said we should look to the Australian and English way of Gun control.Isn’t that what the British tried to do to us in 1776?Didn’t they lose?Weren’t they BEGGING US(theU.S.) for GUNS when Nazi Germany was threatening them? Didn’t FDR ask the NRA to organize and supply the Brits firearms for their civilian armament program during WW2? Should we ever listen to these Anti – ignorant s who ignore history,ignore facts,Ignore the 2ND Amendment and the Constitution ? Would have you unarmed in a heartbeat, consider gun owners extremists,radicals,would say I’m sorry as you and he are standing naked over a burial pit just before being shot in the head ( as was done in WW2 by the Nazi’s after they disarmed their citizens).
Ya know……I don’t think so.I think I’ll just keep opposing the “Bloom-Steins like……FOREVER( is that too long?) Ya that’s what I’m going to do!
I’ve been to Australia,and to the ONLY gun store in Brisbane,I met THE promoter of the ONLY gunshow in Brisbane and surrounding area’s,we had dinner.——– Crime is at an all time high,They have a “turn in your guns and we won’t arrest you” day.I was in the gun store for two hours and 80 guns were turned in.The store pays them peanuts and sells the guns in the United States for a fortune.
They will Never get their Gun Rights back! Nor will we if we let MAIG,MDA and other STUPID liberal groups get their way.
I’ve said it before NO COMMON GROUND with anti’s! We ,not They have the Constitutional RIGHTS ! THEY want to trash the 2ND Amendment,not discuss it or have “Common Sense” gun laws .These clueless BOZO’S need to be opposed at every rally,bill passing,court case,proposal,News Articles and any where they rear their ugly heads.
We need to support EVERY Pro-gun group,organization,stores etc.
Get Rid of The Liberals as they tout Repeal of the 2nd Amendment I.e. treason!
FNH PS90 with a few extra 50 round magazines. SBR if allowed.
SWATTING isn’t new. Some weirdos do the same thing with fire departments calling in fires and crashes that aren’t there because they get their rocks off seeing the fire trucks with the flash lights and sirens going by.
How the police respond to an in progress hostage call is similar to how the FD house fire call. The FD doesn’t send 1 fireman in a grass truck and wait and see if it’s real, they roll out all the toys and mutual aid until they know it’s a bogus call.
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