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The Founders Want Us to Stop Buying More Guns: Quote of the Day

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“Personally, I’ve begun to feel that my Second Amendment rights are being violated. I was promised the right to a well-regulated militia, and instead I see a nation that falls victim, week after week, body after body, to a series of unstable people with elaborately hoarded arsenals. I am absolutely sure our founders would be appalled. I am absolutely sure that our founders would not wish that we run out and buy even more guns because of it.” – Tess Tayor in Do we love our guns more than our children [via cnn.com]

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  1. Personally, I’ve felt for a long time that our society has stopped incarcerating and punishing dangerous individuals and have labeled the foundation of our society dangerous.

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  2. I’m pretty sure the founders didn’t think it was the government’s place to tell you what to do with your personal life at all. They were totally different from today’s politicians.

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  3. I do wonder if this silly child can actually walk and chew gum at the same time… and why she thinks anyone rational would give a rat’s ass what she thinks. Or how in the world she has any clue at all what the “founders” wanted or would understand, since she obviously skipped any real education, at least so far. I can guarantee she never read the Federalist or anti-federalist papers, Lysander Spooner, a thousand others. Not a word.

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  4. First, you were not promised a well regulated militia.

    Second, during the time of the framers, the phrase “well regulated” meant properly functioning. An example is the term “regular as clockwork”.

    Third, when the framers were referring to a free state, they were not talking about states on a map. They were referring to the state of being free.

    Fourth, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”.

    Fifth, What part of “…right of the people…” and “…shall not be infringed” do you not understand?

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    • ” An example is the term “regular as clockwork”. ”

      Interestingly enough, if you look at books about ‘tall clocks’ (grandfather clocks) in the 1700s, the name of the nut on the bottom of the pendulum that is used to adjust the clock’s speed (by moving the pendulum up or down) is the “regulator”…

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  5. “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it”. Thomas Jefferson
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/thomas_jefferson

    “None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important”. Thomas Jefferson
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/thomas_jefferson

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”. Thomas Jefferson
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/thomas_jefferson

    “Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty”. Thomas Jefferson
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/thomas_jefferson

    “When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen”. George Washington
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/george_washington

    “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…”
    – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

    “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

    “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

    “What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

    “The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

    Any other questions woman?

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    • There are an awful lot of quotes in there that we need to be both armed AND disciplined. I would argue that while many of us are armed, not all of us are disciplined. I don’t think the framers wanted every knucklehead to buy bucketloads of guns. “Well-regulated” does indeed mean “in good working order.” Do any of you actually believe our militia is in good working order?

      I would further posit that if we were required to muster and train with our neighbors on a regular basis, might it not foster a sense of community and responsibility? Might it not help us connect with those on the fringe? Might it not help identify those who are suffering mentally and get them some help before it’s too late? “Gee, did you notice George on Saturday? Is something going on with him?”

      In order for our militia to be well-regulated, the guns aren’t the only things that need to be in good working order. The people do too.

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      • While I agree that mustering and training with the neighbors would probably be a good thing, I would also point out that with over 100 million gun owners and over 300 million guns in this country, we are apparently doing a decent job of self-regulating as it is. Each year, approximately 99.99% of gun owners do not murder anyone.

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      • “I would further posit that if we were required to muster and train with our neighbors on a regular basis, might it not foster a sense of community and responsibility?”

        You mean the guy a couple doors down that still has the Bernie sign out in his front yard, from well over a year ago?

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    • She spelled it correctly in her article. We can at least give her credit for that.

      As to her [apparent] PTSD, she clearly still needs professional help.

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    • And probably with a degree in journalism to boot. Shameful the depths the sheeple have sunk to, is it not? The phrase; “educated idiot” comes to mind…

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  6. Ah, another person who has never studied history, especially the meaning behind the term “well-regulated militia”. I blame it on the decline of education in America. It used to be that collage degrees meant something.

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  7. Personally I feel too many people, like the young lady quoted above, want to turn this nation into a socialist or communist country and give over all of their freedoms to the political figure heads they elect. When you think about it, it’s really sad knowing how many young men and women died throughout our history in order to preserve our sovereignty and way of life against those who would have robbed us of it, multiple dirty wars fought on the frontier, two world wars, and numerous police actions around the world to stop the spread of tyranny all the deaths and suffering just so this woman and her college brainwashed generation could try to turn us into those countries we defeated because of some contrived sense of survivors guilt. Tell ya what sweetheart we didn’t make it to the top of the international food chain through feel good measures and singing kumbaya when tyrants started killing off innocents or setting our homes on fire. We made it here by having the fortitude to stand up and plant those motherfuckers. Centuries ago our founders made this the nation by which all others should be measured, to this day no nation can compare with the opportunity and freedom our citizens are given at birth.
    Evil men will always exist and they will always do evil deeds. The tools can and do change but the results are still the same, innocent people are killed, injured, maimed, and disfigured for life. Nothing you or I do will ever change that, but our founders had the good sense to give us the choice of going armed so we could at least try to counter the threat posed by evil men. What you propose would ensure a near permanent imbalance of power in favor of evil, which I’m sure you don’t want.
    You can continue to blame the tools used and you can continue to fight for your communist paradise where instead of equal opportunity we all face equal results (poverty, starvation, and death) with none of the rights and freedoms guaranteed in our founding documents. Just be aware the good people of this nation will not stand with you. There will come a day when the average American sees you for what you really are and when that day comes may the good Lord have mercy upon you because the American people sure as hell won’t.

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  8. “This is a country of hunters and sportsmen, my family included. I cannot foresee an America without guns. I can imagine an America…”

    Where self-defense is illegal, just like England.

    The Second Amendment ain’t hardly about sports.

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  9. Click Bait…Come on TTAG you can do us better than this. If this is all you can find time to inform your readers with you need new writers/editors or maybe a log vacation to realville. We care not about these snowflakes with uneducated opinions. Give us something worth our time.

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    • You clicked.
      You read.
      You commented.

      You COULD have been picking your nose, instead, but you decided this article was important enough to click, read, comment.

      And TTAG gets credit for ad views, because you clicked, read, commented.

      Protip: If you think it’s clickbait, don’t click.

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    • Well Mr. Darkman, Here we are in an ‘echo chamber’. Most that read this blog regularly think, write, and speak out similarly. It is good that articles published by the undereducated useful idiots are reproduced here. It permits us to know and to try to understand what they are thinking and doing. Our actions, opinions, and writings can therefore be applied more directly to whence they might do the most good for our cause.

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  10. No. “shall not be infringed” should be fully honored .

    The Government should be keeping (with due process) the dangerously mentally ill and violent felons incarcerated so they don’t pose a threat to society.

    Then we can “regulate” the militia (firearms safety and marksmanship training for everyone – especially while in high school). It shouldn’t be mandatory, only available to all.

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  11. “Arms, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to a well regulated militia shall not be infringed.”

    – The Second Amendment according to Tess Taylor

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  12. “. . . according to the Journal of TRAUMA Injury, Infection, and Critical Care, 87% of children killed by guns are killed here. Think of it: across the world, 87% of the children killed by guns are killed here, in our country.”

    Except that the provided link shows that to be a complete misrepresentation. What a surprise….
    “The most striking statistic: 87 percent of children killed by guns in 23 of the world’s most developed, wealthiest countries were Americans.”
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/4/9851102/gun-deaths-us-children

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  13. Obviously, this just another delusional self-appointed potentate…Where she is the font of all knowledge….Been there done that….Next…Any more 2nd amendment reforms….Haven’t seen any in my state yet… And most recently, a Representative in my state exclaimed that the 2nd amendment is just a “privilege” issued by the police and the state…Nothing more….Still waiting for reforms…

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  14. i have a gen5 17 it shoots like a glock the same as my other glocks trigger is a little smoother diamond like carbon finish is used on bearings in race cars and bikes i havent seen any one mentioning what a great finish this is i have a ruger 1911 with a bright dlc finish, dlc finish is also a lubricant. shooting glocks since they came out. was a 1911 fan but not after glocks. they actually work.

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  15. I’d bet the Founding Fathers would be more appalled at a culture that generates over 600,000 abortions every year!

    Happy Motoring, Mark

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  16. Does anyone know if Kalashnikov sell Kalashnikov crates?

    Years back, a buddy of mine had a mil-spec storage rack for his AR-platform rifles in his secured gun room, and I thought that was a pretty cool idea…

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  17. There is only one thing to say about the 22lr debate…. go ask Archduke Ferdinand how WWI started…. Oh, that’s right, you can’t, he was assassinated with a 22lr to kick off the war proper…

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  18. No problem…let’s also look at birthright citizenship…voter IDs…drafting females…etc etc etc while we are at it. OK?

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  19. Hopefully this opens the floodgates for more importation. We need 10’s of millions more AK’s and other assorted Russian weaponry here in the US.

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  20. I think our founding fathers were also aware of the dangers of Indian attacks on the frontiers of the colonies and wanted the citizens to be able to protect themselves.

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  21. Being up on the platform and watching the ladder slowly falling away… and I was totally alone.
    Betcha I’m not the only one with that story…
    🤠

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  22. “What scary things have you encountered while sitting alone in your stand or blind?”

    Barred owl coming to sit in the stand with me, 2yrs running…never heard it coming, it was just “THERE”…

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  23. Well the last 2 wouldnt be so scary since you are in your tree stand, you most likely have your bow or rifle with you…. problem solved.
    And yeah ive had the ladder fall away….. really not fun.

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  24. If our nation’s founding fathers came back to life I’m quite sure that they’d be appalled, but not by my freedom to ‘elaborately hoard an arsenal’. They’d be appalled at Washington DC. They’d be appalled that most representatives never see their home districts until election time. They’d be appalled at the bloated bureaucracies establishing and enforcing laws without explicit congressional approval. They’d be appalled by civil asset forfeiture, no knock raids, our foreign entanglements, politicians placing party over country. They’d be appalled that we’ve let the government replace fathers and kill nearly a million infants every year because we can’t be bothered to raise them. They’d be appalled that we don’t go to church anymore. But my arsenal, no, they would not be appalled in the least. In fact I think they’d immediately start their own.

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    • I gotta agree Gov. they would be appalled especially seeing the developments in technology. There’s no excuse to never go back to your district and talk to your voters when a plane can get you there in less than a day. They’d never comprehend how one could turn politics into a career especially when one accomplishes nothing. They would recoil in horror over what passes for critical thinking skills these days. I do however hope that should they come back to life they’d at least visit my humble arsenal for a beer and a few 1000 rounds of familiarization fire with all the new gun designs they missed out on so that I could ask them every question I’ve ever had about what they intended this nation to be.

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  25. Never been in a tree stand. The whole idea seems goofy to me, but oh well. I’ve always hunted on my feet, sometimes taking cover behind rocks or trees to make the shot, but never used a blind for anything but hunting ducks and geese. And I never did hunt alone.

    The scary things I’ve encountered in the woods and grasslands have mostly been other people, especially those who don’t follow the 4 rules seriously.

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  26. And some wonder why women did not have the vote when this country was founded.

    The CNN screed is devoid of facts, logic, or any reasoning skills. Hype the emotions, nothing more. Policy by emotion. Yeah, that works great.

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  27. Seems to address her concerns, she needs to be drafted into “the militia” and given extensive training in the combat arms. Once training is completed, and she qualities, she should be assigned as a guard at her son’s school.

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  28. Before that fateful week in 2016, bringing up the topic of that lion would have gotten the reply of, “Cecil who?”.
    That one simple fact was totally lost on most folks who wanted to give their opinions to all who would listen regarding a cat on another continent most famous (in very small, exclusive circles)for being easy to photograph due to his laziness. 🤠

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  29. When should a woman brandish her firearm? When should she shoot him? Suppose he grabs her arm? Brandish or shoot? Perhaps a law should be passed that men have to stay a minimum of three feet away from women and only approach with written permission.

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  30. Men could carry around a packet of “hall passes” and strip one out and hand it to a woman along with a pen when seeking to stand close or to ask for a date.

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  31. MY longtime gorgeous wife told me she has never been sexually harassed. Hard to believe but she did teach self-defense to timid white gals. Gun or not NOT being a victim is 90% of the equation!

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  32. These idiots can piss up a rope.
    They are every thing they claim to be against, and are so stupid, dishonest, or both,
    to know or admit it, even to themselves.

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  33. Usually when people ask to see my gun in church I tell them to wait until after the service and I clear it there in the parking lot and ram a chamber flag in it. Should for whatever reason that be unfeasible (weather, they give me the heeby jeebies, or there are a plethora of kids about), I usually have a picture or two on my phone and of they know where I live so they are free to come by and take a gander/test drive any time they please away from church grounds unless of course they set off my radar and something doesn’t feel quite right about them then they don’t get passed the threshold to my home.

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  34. I’d invite the gun curious to meet me at an indoor range where I could teach them the fundamentals of safe gun handling and shooting technique.

    Short of that…well that’s what google images is for.

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  35. Historically women have always been armed. Small hand guns, smaller caliber easily concealed type firearms. Turn of the century advertising focused on selling guns to women for self-defense and for hunting as well.

    It was normal for women to have guns long before the the 19th amendment was passed.

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  36. Col, Townsend Whelen / Bill Jordan of Border Patrol / Skeeter Skelton – all of firearm related field.
    Gentleman Jim Corbet – pugilistic field.
    Larry Bird – pro sports

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  37. Ya, let’s take a striker fired design and turn it into a double-action only hammer fired abomination. Oh can I make sure the proceeds go to anti-gunners?

    Edit: Just noticed it’s actually DA/S.A. Still lame. And what’s with needing it to be easier to rack the slide? What demographic has trouble clambering a round but is excited to shoot .45 out of a pocket pistol?

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  38. With my XDS 9, I don’t see a need for this.
    Without my XDS 45 I don’t see a need for this.
    I had a 45 XDS. It might have been the best shooting compact 45 I’ve ever shot. I’ve never shot a compact 1911, though.

    “NE, moj XDS je sasvim u redu.”

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  39. Racism IS pervasive in the gun industry, and so obvious! A quick review of some websites:

    DPMS: “Designed II Dominate”
    Remington: Black Friday Rebates
    Ruger: “Arms Makers for Responsible Citizens” – Clearly indicating all non-whites are irresponsible!
    Springfield Armory: “Defend Your Legacy” –Target audience -> Homer Stokes, Richard Spencer et al.
    Winchester: “Livin’ The Life” – Obviously appropriated from Tupac’s belly tattoo.

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  40. Why do so many people seem to think that the only options are non-voluntary government rule, or “mob rule?” How about self government, self responsibility and non-aggression? Oh, and self defense when some people want to “rule” you to your detriment.

    The police have never assisted me with any of those last options. In fact, they seem rather dedicated to preventing self rule, critical thinking or, in many cases, even self defense.

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  41. It was Saturday morning when I was 10 years old. Dad got my younger brother and me up, and said we’re going shooting. He drove us to the Fort Huachuca Rod and Gun Club range, signed us up in Junior NRA, and put us in the safety class.

    After learning the safety rules, and basic marksmanship, we picked up a target, a box of 50 rounds of .22 LR, and a bolt action rifle. We went out to the firing line, put our rifles and ammo down at our firing point, and on command from the range safety officer, we moved out to the 25 yard target stand, and set up our targets.

    Back at the firing line, we got in prone position, laid into a good sight picture, locked and loaded one round, re-sighted, and squeezed off the round. The crack of the the .22 from my gun, and the guns around me, hurt my ears, but the sight of the bullet hole in the target was so rewarding the dullness to my hearing didn’t matter. I finished the 50 rounds and wanted more.

    As most everyone says, I was hooked. I continued to shoot as often as I could. Eventually, I joined the Army. I shot M-14, M-16A1, M-203, M-60, M-2, and the .38 Revolver (for which I never knew the military nomenclature). I even got some demo fire with 82mm mortar, 105mm, M-73 LAW. It’s all fun.

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  42. “Chicago Cop Marco Proano Faces 8 Years In Jail for Shooting 16 Rounds Into Stolen Car”

    Should be, at a minimum, 1yr per round…

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  43. Brownell’s (and only Brownell’s I can find so far) is selling a Geissele G2S-E which mirrors the trigger pull of the SSA-E. It seems to be their budget foray into opening the Holy Grail SSA-E up to a competitive drop in market. Would love to see a review of the G2S-E vs. the SSA-E. Trigger retention in accomplished a bit differently and less sophisticated and there is no laser engraving. i don’t have an SSA-E but wound up replacing two of my drop ins with two Geissele G2S-E.

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  44. The story said 4 people were in the car. I counted *6* people being handcuffed/detained. What, did they pick up a couple of bystanders for good measure…?

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