Law enforcement wait outside after a shooting at the Greenwood Park Mall, in Greenwood, Ind. (Kelly Wilkinson/The Indianapolis Star via AP)
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Every time Democrats unveil a new gun control proposal, their message is the same: their bill, if enacted, will save lives. Actually the exact opposite is true.

States have recently rushed to pass new laws in response to a decision the U.S. Supreme Court made last year in New York State Rifle and Pistol Association vs. Bruen.

It held that the Second Amendment prohibits government requiring applicants to prove a “special need” in order to be issued a concealed carry permit.

States that included this requirement are called “may issue” states; others, which comprise the majority, are called “shall issue” states. …

“The main problem is that it really limits where you can carry your gun,” SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb told Newsmax. “They’re trying to imitate and mimic what New York and New Jersey did.” …

“Many more people would have died [in the Greenwood Park Mall shooting] if not for a responsible armed citizen that took action very quickly within the first two minutes of the shooting,” said Greenwood police chief James Ison during a press briefing.

The National Rifle Association agreed.

“We will say it again: The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” the NRA said on Twitter.

But Gottlieb concluded that states like Maryland, New York and New Jersey want to remove that element of a “good guy with a gun.”

“Now you’re penalizing the permit-holders, and not the criminals,” he observed.

As a result, the law “is definitely making Maryland less safe, because it doesn’t stop criminals from misusing guns. It only stops law-abiding people from defending themselves.”

An adage that was popular decades ago went: “when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.”

It’s just as true today as it was then.

— Michael Dorstewitz in Most Gun Control Laws Render Us More Unsafe

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  1. That’s the entire point! The communist/democrat/fascists WANT more mass shootings in order to force the sheeple to demand total confiscation. Cue Godwin’s law…

    • the actions of the left have put us in this situation where we have to carry guns around to defend ourselves…yet they refuse to accept accountability for it…..

    • “If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of criminal acts reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying – that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 – establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime.” ~ Orrin Hatch

      • “…the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 – establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime.” ~ Orrin Hatch”

        Follow the science; it is settled: the easy access to firearms through legal channels is the sole cause of the rise in crime, since the 16th century in the US.

        Without firearms in the hands of the civil population, there would be almost zero crime in the country. And where there is crime, it would not be happening in the places good people live and congregate.

        • Heh! Paraphrasing…

          …the easy access to firearms through legal channels is the sole cause of the rise in crime individual rights , since day one, globally.

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    • …and FBI behind most unsolved mass shooting (mass shooter killed self or was killed by someone else). Example – Las Vegas shooter.

  2. “Every time Democrats unveil a new gun control proposal, their message is the same: their bill, if enacted, will save lives.”

    The main complication for gun grabbers continues to be ignored, and continues to not be pushed in their faces: a “bill”, rather than an amendment to the constitution.

    It was just this sort of thing that led to Civil War 2.0; trying to use legislation to get around the Constitution that didn’t ban slavery. After a nasty brawl that lasted four years, those trying to evade the Constitution ended up amending the Constitution.

  3. And it’s the sort of thing that will lead to Civil War 3.0.
    By the way, FJB that brags that ARs are essentially useless against superior government armament just approved another $30M worth of 5.56 to send to You Crane.

    • “By the way, FJB that brags that ARs are essentially useless against superior government armament just approved another $30M worth of 5.56 to send to You Crane.”

      An AR-15 in 7.62 NATO would be a whole ‘nuther matter; .30(8) diameter bullet, vs. .22(3) diameter bullet.

    • Men in Afghanistan wearing flip flops and robes gave us a hard time with relatively wimpy 5.45X39 rifles.
      I heard FJB say that and thought, “So, he will use the military against his own people.” Well, they are making them more woke all the time.

  4. When you want to build a market you need to create demand.

    Promotion of anything that endangers public safety makes it more likely they’ll clamor for “law and order” while forgetting about “Rule of Law”.

    Which is exactly how you build a Gestapo or NKVD. In fact, that’s how those organizations were built.

    • But “It could never happen here™” until we have a republican president who is only left of center then literally Hitler.

      • Fear, realistic or not, is a hell of a motivator which can often be pushed to the point that serious psychotherapy is required to undo the damage, often involving the use of hallucinogens if you want to really make headway in a rational timeframe.

        Such abuse basically creates “well worn patterns of behavior” (which are literally neural networks) that are well ingrained and difficult to get rid of because they were created under extreme duress. If effect, it’s a directed form of PTSD. Like trying to change the habits of someone when it comes to roadside trash after they experienced several IEDs in the GWoT.

        Cult leaders use this all the time.

        • Or people seeking to control nations through the mass media……not to jump too far ahead as your presentation is excellent on another window.

      • altering the court was the best thing he could have done for the gun-rights folks…its already had an impact…expect more…

    • This should be the view and promise of every American: President John F. Kennedy said, “Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.” What happened to the Democrat Party of old — Communism?

      “One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms.” ~ Joseph Story.

      “The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” ~ Samuel Adams.

      And there are hundreds more of these morsels of freedom and liberty, and all are very inspirational.

  5. As bad as denying self defense ability is, destroying due process with Red Flag Laws is worse. Nineteen states and counting with Pennsylvania bill HB 1018 pending in the state senate, the only thing holding it back.

    Are there any pending court challenges enroute to SCOTUS ?

    How soon before we are all stripped of property and rights for other ‘ pre-crime ‘ reasons, only to have your day in court much , much later ?

  6. I can tell you for certain ILLANNOY isn’t “safer” after January 10. SEE: Memorial day weekend in Chiraq🙄

    • You don’t need to create a Gestapo. The FBI has already volunteered for the role in being The Party’s secret police. FEMA can create the special facilities.

  7. “In case anyone was confused about how utterly useless is the ATF (or thought them less corrupt than the FBI/DOJ)”

    If the Hunter Biden case can result in the dismantling of background checks, I would gladly give Hunter a pass on his infractions.

      • Yes, but the Hunter becoming the Hunted is the stuff that makes Disney $Billions…. dare to dream.

  8. As sick as joe biden has been there are self serving brat minded snot nosed Gun Owners still holding hands with dispicable democRats to slander and libel POTUS DJT.

    The tantrum throwing politically inept bump stock crowd helped to usher in joe biden and throw out the goose proved to lay golden eggs. Had bump stocks not been thrown under the bus at the time a knee jerk congress was set to throw much more under the bus.

    The stampede to Control Control following the criminal misuse of a firearm happens because those screaming the loudest about bump stocks were too gutless to Define Gun Control according to its Confirmed History of Rot.

  9. Too many people have a simple and basic misunderstanding about “gun control.” “Gun control” is not now, and has never been, about crime, criminals, or public safety. Quite frankly, the Left couldn’t give a rat’s behind about crime, criminals, or public safety. Gun control is, and has always been, about disarming the citizenry so they cannot represent a threat to the government once the Left establishes the dictatorship they have been working toward since the 1960s and, thanks to the stolen elections of November 2020 and January 2021 and November 2022, are now in the process of consolidating. The key word in the term “gun control” is not “gun” – it is “control.”

    A quick study of basic world history will show that one of the first actions taken by every Communist government upon their takeover was to go to all of the local police stations, get the lists of gun owners, and then go door to door and disarm everyone. That is why the Communists – er, I mean the Democrats – want a national gun registry. Is there really anyone at this point in time who still does not understand this?

    And by the way, it is way beyond disingenuous that the Left always speaks of “we need gun control” as if there were currently no laws concerning firearms. There are now more than 24,000 gun control laws in effect at the federal, state, and local levels in this nation. Every conceivable aspect of firearm purchase, ownership, and use is covered dozens of times over. Firearms are by far the single most regulated and restricted consumer product in this nation. The only ones who are impacted by all these laws, however, are the law-abiding, which of course is the goal. Criminals very rarely (check the FBI data on this) even attempt to obtain firearms through legal channels, and are thus unaffected by “gun control.” As I stated above, “gun control” has nothing to do with crime or criminals.

  10. Gun control has little to do with guns. They are just the tool selected for use. The entire premise is control and authority over a disarmed and helpless populace to force compliance with whatever dictates are issued by the rulers in the Party.
    Control the schools and indoctrinate the young. Control or disband the police forces. Control military command and doctrine. Control the markets and financial industry. Control the media and censor any dissenting speech. Control the ability for people to travel or exchange ideas or goods. Limit travel to only government approved destinations and control the itinerary.
    And as Stalin is supposed to have said. ” It is enough that the people have voted. Who counts the votes is what matters.”

  11. I remember when Dorstewitz supported gun control. Amazing he changed for a liberal jew.

  12. Remember the old truism, “an armed society is a polite society”? Well the trend lines for both gun ownership and societal belligerence have both shot upward during the past decade.

    If anything, the more gunowners, the more gun violence. Instead of increasing politeness and civility, guns have given people the confidence to confront everyone and everything with their gun.

    • some truth there…but the machinations of the left have put us into this position…all these guns are a symptom… not the cause…..

    • “Remember the old truism, “an armed society is a polite society”? ”

      The underlying principle in that theme was, “…Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

      If the vast majority of the populace does not know, does not understand the likelihood of armed opposition, is convinced there can be no opposition to armed attack, then “An armed society is a polite society…” cannot exist.

      Not to be dismissed….if you, and people like you, are afraid you will be shot for bad manners, then you are among those who will not provoke an armed society. Think we could call that a “win”, all around.

    • “Instead of increasing politeness and civility, guns have given people the confidence to confront everyone and everything with their gun.”

      That wasn’t a very polite thing to say. Turn in all of your guns, now.

    • Motte, meet Bailey. Bailey, Motte.

      Now that you’re properly introduced, fuck off.

    • Actually Libertarians Liberals and the Left have encouraged rude and impolite behavior in public. Under the flag of the 1st amendment.

      I remember very well. When impolite behavior in public was strongly discouraged and publicly shamed. Your impolite behavior and fowl language could, have gotten you and did get you arrested. If you did it front of children or women.

      It’s interesting how people using the dirtiest, filthiest language in public discourse. But those same individuals are suddenly afraid of people, who calmly walk around and open guns.

      The open carry of firearms which is a first amendment right. It does cause a calming effect on the general populace whenever they’re displayed. All of a sudden people are more polite to each other.

    • “If anything, the more gunowners, the more gun violence.”

      Flat-out LIE.

      ‘Gun violence’ today is roughly one-half as bad as it was in the early 1980s, according to official Department of Justice data…

  13. the goals of the left are coming into sharper focus…or maybe he just got a new set of glasses?

  14. A 60-year-old Palm Coast man was arrested May 27 after he allegedly threatened to shoot his neighbor because a car visiting the neighbor’s house backed into the man’s driveway.

    Vetsch told deputies he banged on the car’s window and yelled at the driver: He had mistaken the driver for someone else, he later told deputies.

    The driver told deputies that he was visiting with Vetsch’s neighbor and backed into Vetsch’s driveway while moving the car.

    Vetsch and his neighbor, a woman, began arguing, and when Vetsch started walking back to his property, the neighbor followed him, the report said.

    Vetsch then turned around and pointed his gun at the neighbor’s head from inches away and threatened to shoot and kill her, the report said.

    • The solution is to confiscate all firearms from the entire populace.
      Don’t you agree, Polite Old White Guy?

      • And cars and gasoline and houses.

        Then again, if cell phones were banned we never have heard about it.

  15. Placer County, California Sheriff’s officials said just after 1 p.m. on May 19, deputies responded to the Cobblestone Movie Theater after a person called 911 reporting a man openly displaying a firearm on his hip while walking around the theater premises.

    Officers conducted a traffic stop and said the suspect, 42-year-old Thomas Alexander, had a loaded handgun holstered on his hip. While searching his vehicle, deputies reportedly found two additional loaded handguns and a rifle with four loaded high-capacity magazines in the trunk.

    They say an assortment of prescription bottles and pills were also discovered in the vehicle.

    During the course of the investigation, officers found the suspect had been inquiring about the movie theater’s customer arrival times.

    • Thank you for pointing out that it is a dangerous world and we need to insist on our right to be armed at all times.

      Thank you for your support of civil rights.

    • So you find a minimal sampling of over a million firearm owners. The same sample could apply to any group.

  16. Maryland likes the criminals and hates the law abiding citizens. The politicians say it all the time…

    • “Does anyone know how big the rock has to be before its classified a weapon of War?”

      First, the rock must have its entire surface be black.

      Then, if must be shaped like an AR/AK rifle.

      Next, it must have a thingy in back that goes up, and a clipazine that allows the rock to be thrown 1000 times per second.

    • Do you refer to the movie, the prison or Dwayne Johnson?

      As much as you might not think it, context is crucial in answer this question.

  17. Gun control as envisioned by the current disarmament industry does nothing to protect public safety, prevent mass murder, or prevent any crime involving a weapon. It wouldn’t even prevent a single suicide.
    The only things their anti gun agenda will do is make the law abiding citizens into helpless victims of the criminals and slaves or serfs to the administrative state bureaucracy.
    The line ” An armed society is a polite society.” is only true when it is clearly understood by all that the possibility exists someone may not be willing to tolerate rude or insulting comments or threats of possible violence. Since the same people pushing the current anti gun agenda are also demanding we allow immoral and harmful as behaviors as well as happily demeaning and insulting anyone who even questions or disagrees with them, I can understand their concerns about people being freely armed.
    As I have mentioned before, there are people walking around today simply because they are not worth my time in prison.

  18. @XZX June 2, 2023 At 04:15

    “Heh! Paraphrasing…

    …the easy access to firearms through legal channels is the sole cause of the rise in crime individual rights , since day one, globally.”

    Thought about responding, but decided not to. So, you are not seeing this.

  19. Ahhh….you want this. I can feel the anger swelling in you now. I am unarmed. Take your Jedi weapon, use it. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the Darkside will be complete! It is unavoidable. It is your destiny. You, like your father, are now mine!

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