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Dallas police are looking for a man in a camouflage shirt who was photographed marching in tonight’s Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas before the shooting started. The latest reports indicate that ten police officers where hit and four killed by at least two shooters. Early media reports in fluid situations like this are frequently incorrect. In fact . . .


11:14pm CMT: Jed Hannay reports “CBS DFW is reporting the man named as the suspect is not the shooter. His name is Mark Hughes according to his brother Cory Hughes. Cory is saying his brother did have a gun downtown but he did not shoot it and he is not the shooter. “He did have a firearm. He did have an AR-15 with him. I told him to go give that gun to the police so there would be no question about the shooting. People, trust me, there is no way it is him!”

In addition, the individual pictured was photographed while marching with the crowd. The latest reports indicate that the shooting came from at least two elevated positions above the crowd.

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  1. Yeah, the guy I’m watching get interviewed on Fox basically just justified the shooting of police.

  2. In b4 “Inside Job!!!”

    Seriously though… It’s bizarre that he ostensibly arrived to kill police officers, but walked around at a tense, us vs. them event with a scary black gun. No tinfoil hattery here; just wondering if this is the right guy.

  3. Prayers to their family members. And speedy recovery to the wounded.
    Shits getting out of control.
    And obamas reaction: chirp chirp….

    • Obama’s reaction will be quite jubilation as he and his media lackeys will spin this into reasons for restricting our rights and this time they may get everything that they want.

    • It’s a local Dallas matter. Obama, and the Feds in general, stick their desperate-for-coverage face into too much as it is. Grassy Knoll type shootings may well be of federal concern, but this is not.

  4. Damn quite a bit of news this week that gets the feels going to keep everyone not thinking about the Paintsuit Server Dog and Pony Show.

    Jeez I need to work more this week for a couple more cases and lowers, its about to get real.

  5. Check out the FOX News headline:
    DPD Chief: Rifles used to injure and kill officers

    Apparently disembodied rifles are to blame for the shootings…. ridiculous.

    • What exactly is wrong with that headline? Were rifles not used? Do you have evidence to support the theory that they used a different weapon?

      “Rifles used to shoot officers” is both grammatically correct, and factual. The rifles were used by the shooters to shoot the officers.

      Nobody said anything about “disembodied rifles”.

      • Probably because it’s the same old anti-gun narrative and vilification of firearms. Rifles are evil weapons that are associated with killing the police.

        Who cares what weapon they used? How about this for a headline:

        “11 Police officers in Dallas were shot by multiple attackers during a social justice protest for the recent Louisiana and Minnesota events.”

  6. this guy needs to be found so he can be invited to the White House so o’bama can have a “beer conference” and set him straight (and if he’s not straight, o’bama will invite him back for a “date”)

    • He’s either not one of the shooters or he’s really, really stupid. I’ll give it 50-50 odds either way.

        • Jury’s still out one whether or not he’s stupid. Not sure a BLM (black lives matter, not bureau of land management) protest is a wise place to open carry.

          • Nope. He was there exercising his 2A rights with an unloaded AR15 that hadn’t been fired. He was down on the street with his brother and friends when the shooting started. At the urging of his brother, he gave his rifle to a cop while the shooting was still going on.

  7. This is my shocked face. Just goes to show you that we know who the most racist and violent people in America are. Hint: not conservatives.

    I seem to remember showing some math predicting this just a while ago.

    Told you so.

    • Racism much?

      As of now there is zero info on any suspect’s race, religion, or political affiliation.

      This guy was just an open carrier in the wrong place at the wrong time. You know, the kind of guy you would normally be vigorously defending.

      • This guy was just an open carrier in the wrong place at the wrong time.

        Probably. When he found out the police were looking for him, he went to the police to be questioned. I doubt this guy is the shooter. Probably just OCing a rifle in protest.

      • Yeah, I don’t need reports to connect the dots about police officers getting shot at a Thug Lives Matter riot.

        • As in “I don’t need facts, I already know what I believe! ”

          So what happens if the shooters turn out to be white? Or Hispanic? Or ISIS? Just pointing out that at this point we don’t actually KNOW anything about any of the shooters.

        • Yeah… White shooters at a Thug Lives Matter riot? I’ll take bullshit theories for 1000 Alex…

          In the meantime. $100 on Afrocentric Black Supremacists with $50 side bets on ISIS sympathizes and Bernie supporters.

      • Congrats, you’ve managed to extrapolate a racial component from a statement where no mention of race was made. Who’s the racist?

    • As I recall, your “math” was utter garbage and you got really mad when I pointed out the flaws. 🙂

        • Yes, and the use of flawed premises to reach conclusions is the greatest pitfall of using inductive reasoning. Or in your case, concocted premises.

          Please stop embarrassing yourself. 🙂

        • Ah, but you must produce evidence that they are flawed. Shouting loudly and kicking the floor crying “you racis” is not an argument. Show data that murderers are significantly more conservative than the general population in the US or go home you sub-human commie scum.

        • But I did produce evidence that your premises are garbage. It is not my fault you are too ignorant to recognize your own logical holes. Specifically, your obviously biased sample groups and assumptions regarding uniformity that were demonstrably false. Pretty basic stuff to tear down your logical house (hut?) of cards.

          “Show data that murderers are significantly more conservative than the general population”

          Now now, I already called out this strawman the last time you used it, have a little dignity and don’t try to same lame stunt another time. 🙂

          By the way nobody is calling you “racis”, I’m just saying you are terrible at math, logic and dialectic.

        • Somebody banhammer this assclown. I’m tired of his bullshit clogging up my feed.

        • Awww, you are mad someone is calling you out. AWWWWWWW. Your tears are delicious to me. 🙂

          Pro-tip: if you don’t want to get called out for being bad at math and logic, don’t post stupid stuff masquerading as math and logic.

        • There it is. “Commie.” Tells you a lot about the mentality of these people.

  8. Possibility the guy in the picture was just OCing
    Update 11:14: CBSDFW is reporting the man is the suspect is not the shooter. His name is Mark Hewes accorging to his brother Cory Hughes. Cory is saying his brother did have a gun downtown but he did not shot it and he is not the shooter. “He did have a firearm. He did have an AR-15 with him. I told him to go give that gun to the police so there would be no question about the shooting. People, trust me, there is no way it is him!”

    • I really hope that’s the case. They apparently have one shooter cornered now.

  9. Initial reports are usually wrong, as we all know. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy wasn’t involved at all. Reports say that there were two snipers, they have one cornered, and he is wearing bulletproof tactical gear.

    Does it make sense that tac’d-up snipers are working with a guy in a camo t-shirt and a big grin?

    Time will tell, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns out to be a case of an open-carry protester in the wrong place at the wrong time. At least, that seems possible. Hopefully citizen video will emerge that proves his involvement or lack thereof.

  10. Nobody should be surprised by this. After all the warrantless shootings by police in recent years, the public is justifiably fed up. And when you can’t effect change through public speaking and protesting, petitions, legislation or litigation, that doesn’t leave very many options.

    I’m not anti-cop, by any stretch of the imagination. But you absolutely cannot shoot somebody if they are not posing a credible, imminent threat to your life or to the life of a third party. It doesn’t matter who they are, or what they did, and it doesn’t matter if you’re wearing a badge or not.

  11. Baaaaad time to open carry a rifle just to make a point. Twitter feed says he was not involved and handed his rifle over to PD after the shooting began, FWIW

    • “Baaaaad time to open carry a rifle just to make a point. “

      And why exactly?

      This guy just did more for “out gun rights” than probably 90+% of those who post here…especially the anti-OC crowd.


      What better message could there be to crack the narrative…about OC, about MSR’s, about guns in general?

      Here was a guy OC-ing as a statement of protest, and HE WAS NOT THE BAD GUY.

      Meanwhile, the REAL bad guys laid in ambush from tactically superior positions…no “openness” to it.

      It’s sickening how deeply the “OMG! I see a GUN…GUNZ BAD” meme runs through US society.

  12. So… the deception plan worked?

    I’d be somewhat suspicious.

    Seems like these guys were tactically proficient. It would make sense to have a decoy to focus attention while the direct action team escapes and evades. YMMV.

  13. Local CBS 11 interviewed Mark Hughes who was interviewed, tested, cleared and released. His rifle was retained and he was cuffed again when he asked for his possessions back, which included his rifle.

    Hughes brother protested that they were cleared and needed their firearms for protection. Couldn’t agree more.

  14. So it turns out this is what a responsible gun owner looks like. The guy turns is weapon over when asked by officials in an active shooter situation, leaves the scene as ordered, and still turns himself over for questioning right afterwards. I honestly don’t know how to tell the good guys from the bad when people OC’ing.

    • ” I honestly don’t know how to tell the good guys from the bad when people OC’ing.”

      Oh, bullshit.

      If you can’t tell the difference between the actions you just described and someone SHOOTING AT YOU, you have a serious problem.

      • Unless your last statement was sarcasm and I missed it the first time, in which case…my statement applies to those that say that kind of junk in seriousness.

    • Faulty logic.

      There’s no way to predict “wrong place, wrong time.” No way.

      If you are going to argue there is a ‘wrong place, wrong time’ to carry a weapon, the only “solution” is to NEVER carry, not even at home.

      That’s what the anti’s want.

      Don’t fuel their position by buying into their tautology.

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