“Los Angeles and Torrance police were involved in two shootings in Torrance early Thursday when police came across vehicles similar to the one sought by authorities in a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer suspected of shooting three other officers,” lablog.latimes.com reports. “Neither incident actually involved the suspect, said Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase. The suspect, Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, was at large Thursday morning. The first Torrance incident occurred about 5:20 a.m. in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance, Chase said. That incident involved Los Angeles police detectives from the Hollywood division, sources said. Two people were struck by gunfire and transported to an area hospital with unknown injuries, Chase said. No officers were injured. The second incident . . .
which involved Torrance police, occurred at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street about 5:45 a.m. No injuries were reported in that incident.
Chase said both incidents involved vehicles matching the description of the one sought in connection with Dorner.
And civilians aren’t experienced enough to handle firearms. And Dorner isn’t a threat to civilians. Yeah right. [h/t Matt in ATL]
I was there from 0730 on, in suit and tie. I was pleased with the overall appearance of the crowd – more women and younger people there than might be expected on the pro 2A side.
The bill has several components, some of which are new to Maryland. I suspect that some portions will pass; others will get chopped out.
Folks are getting nervous.
Anyone have more info on the precipitating firing?. I know from experience that officers can lie and that city officials do is a given.
I went in to a local gun store the other day to get an ASAP plate for my AR. It was a bit expensive but out the door cost me what I would have paid for overnight shipping from Midway. On my way out I noticed they had .40 in stock from a local reloading company, at $35 for a box of 50. I will never do business there again. No one else in the area is selling the same ammo for that much.
Two days ago I did get my hands on three brand new (in the package) Gen II Maglevel Pmags for $20 each so that made me happy.
Officer safety! Why does TTAG hate the police? [/sarc]
Go preach to gang members on street corners in downtown Atlanta.
Go preach in the approximately 35 state prisons in Georgia.
self-righteous coward.
I do agree there are extremists out there… on both sides sadly. On the anti-gun side, the most vocal, like DiFi and the Governor of NYS, ARE extremists, wanting to destroy natural rights guarded by our Constitution. Then there are those practicing for imminent all out war. We still have the functioning means to battle those who would gut our country from the inside by denying us our rights without shedding a drop of blood if we can get enough people to wake up and see the real truth. While being prepared for war is always good, it is and should always be our last option.
Bangiola calls guns like Bushmasters “stupid.” I agree… They ARE stupid. SOMEONE has to hold them, control them, tell them what to do. They are so stupid they can’t do anything on their own, not even shoot innocents.
Well played as well, Bangiola, deferring to a SCOTUS that has more political agenda than a desire to interpret the Constitution by the very document, and its supporting documents (i.e. The Federalist Papers) and try to twist it into a definition that will support their own position on the matter. A good example is the “Obamacare” ruling where We the people were told it was not a tax, and the only way it turns out, according to the SCOTUS, is it has to be a tax or it is unconstitutional. (Now all of a sudden, it’s a tax. The very thing we was told it wasn’t.)
Yeah, the hell with the maniac, run for cover from the cops. Get ready for the crocodile/brady tears if the cops off this lovely human being, Randy
Thanks God that no officers were hurt….. [sic]
Santa with a gun I like it.
When seconds matter the poplice are minutes away…shooting the wrong suspects.
That is excellent!
Just driving to work in my SUV, damn I was only going 5 over officer let me reach over fr my license and registration, *POW* *POW*, why did you shoot me?
A) all this disarmament talk have clauses for ex police, see that makes perfect sense since they go cocoocahoo too.
B) If he was a smart psycho cop wouldnt he have switched viechals knowing the radio would be looking for his SUV, he is probably on his way to Mexico in a Prius.
Nothing like shooting up a truck with 2 ladies delivering newspapers. Over 50 shots fired (photo link below)
They also ventilated a guys honda truck. He was turned around from a checkpoint and shot by another cop responding to the above shooting.
Looks like LAPD is in full self preservation mode. What gets me is if it were a CCW holder who screwed up this bad they’d be in jail and the drum beat would be to revoke them all. But here, the attitude is cut the cops some slack.
http://postimage.org/image/9uyd5qmk7/
Wow…this IS some frightening stuff…50 shots fired for what? Was either person armed or did they just make the mistake of going for their registration?
Man, I can’t find 50 rounds to buy!
I forgot the Gov. has all the ammo. The DHS has bought 1.46 (B) billion rounds in the last year. (I thought the country was broke)
At the height of the Iraq War the US was running through 5.5 million rounds a month. So at that level the DHS has enough to last ~ 30 years.
DHS also bought 7000 fully auto “Personal Defence Rifles” in the last 10 months.
I love the way a semi-auto AR-15 is an “Assualt Weapon” in the hands of a citizen, but a fully auto M4 is a “Personal Defence Rifle” in the hands of LEO.
Hope they get him soon, so they won’t have to shoot up the city.
Guy22
Thats what you get for throwing dangerous newspapers.
Congratulations and welcome to Alabama!
Not just businesses, but all patriots tired of living in their people’s republics should flee asap to states that still uphold freedom. By the next census, the U.S. House will be irretrievably owned by conservatives/libertarians.
Ya’ll come on down!
Roll Tide!
Might as well protest Wilson Combat. Nobody uses a $500 handgun to commit a crime with and then immediately throw away. He should probably be outside Hi Point.
So you got an ex-cop hunting real cops that are shooting civilians because they are driving a vehicle that looks like the ex-cop’s? In Hollywood? STFU?!?!
Due process is lost in this land. Why not just have obama send drones. That would be better than all those cops with scary black guns running around with bazookas strapped the barrel and who knows – they might blow up a train or shoot down a plane on accident!!!
If the bills under consideration in MN pass i will wave good bye to DPMS.
I heard on the NPR coverage of the MN hearings, right at the end, that the MN governor said he wouldn’t sign any gun legislation without the support of the rural legislators. I thought that was an encouraging sign.
I welcome them to my home state with open arms! I hope this is the first of many to come to this gun friendly state!
And let us all take away an important lesson from the last two months. When (we hope) supply once more catches up with demand, and ammo/gun prices get back to a reasonable level, remember what it was like trying to find supplies when the SHTF. Stock up – don’t let your supplies get back down to a “I’ll just buy it the day before I plan a range session” level. Ammo and reloading components don’t “go bad” if you store them in a dry, reasonably cool (below 120 degrees) environment. Budget enough every month to build up what the anti-gun twits refer to as “a veritable arsenal”.
OFWG lecture of the day /ends/.
Maybe the first model should be named the “Tokyo”.
Yoshio Kiuchi woke up in gun-free Tokyo one morning and started his day by killing his wife, son, daughter-in-law, and 4-year-old grand-daughter, using a hammer.
Nothing to see here folks move along move along…
While I am sure that the anti Second Amendment played a role in their exit from California it probably more an excuse than anything else. California is rated as the worst state to do business in. There will more departures from all sorts of business in coming months ahead.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christopher-dorners-so-called-manifesto/#axzz2KE8j3mGI
Christopher Dorner’s “manifesto.”
tl;dr: claims that because of being a whistleblower, reporting excessive force incidents, accounts of institutionalized racism against him and fellow officers that led to this.
I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.
…
Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.
…
No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and a substantial vetting in a backround investigation.
Who knows if this guy’s on the level and his claims are true. He’s name-dropped a bunch (all of which are redacted) so if he’s telling the truth there should be people to corroborate what he’s saying. Should be interesting.
I can’t find the link, but I also read a similar story – he was a whistle blower who charged that a superior officer used excessive force on a suspect. He was later dismissed over the case, under the charge that he filed a false accusation. The lawyer defending him was his ex-GF’s father, who is also an ex-cop.
LAPD having problems policing its own cops? Like that’s never happened before… (/sarcasm)
I suspect there’s a lot more going on to this story beyond the surface level “jealous ex-cop murders 2 people.” Of course, we’ll never know, and if Dorner is smart enough to use his military training / cop background, he’s probably long gone from LA and laying low.
Look at the bright side at least he wasn’t surfing porn…
“Two people were struck by gunfire.”
I find it ridiculous how the media can portray these incidents as accidents committed by some universal force.
Two citizens were shot by cops.
What you’ve got to be scared of is people from California moving for jobs then ruining your state too. Just ask anyone from Colorado, it’s pretty much already gone.
Sigh. Just checked Midway.com to look at one of my “watched” items that was due in today, and… it’s still showing a due date of today, no backorder, no stock.
The shots heard around the world…..
Only the CRIMINALS and POLITICIANS want the law-abiding unarmed. It makes it easier for the POLITICIANS and CRIMINALS to control them. Yes, I know the two words mean the same thing.
As a Bama resident, I’m more than happy to hear this news! Anniston is a decent drive for me, but I’ll make sure I visit next time I’m up that way.
Oh, and Roll Tide.
I love the naive sheep that come to LE’s defense in these cases saying ‘one bad apple doesn’t ruin the whole bunch’. Do you live under a rock? This shit happens everyday from New York to Los Angeles, and everywhere in between. To Protect and Serve….yeah, to protect their pension and serve their own interests is more like it.
Oh, by the way. The US Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that LE has no Constitutional duty to protect you. Really, then WHAT do they have a duty to do? What more really needs to be said?
Thanks for posting this. I’ve been searching for specifics like these.
A recent issue of Small Arms Review features C-Products, a magazine company with thirty employees. Their production capacity is said to be 125,000 mags per week. I wonder how many Magpul and the other companies can produce per week.
A few years ago my wife and infant son were pulled over by multiple LEOs and detained at gunpoint. Turns out her car matched (make, model, even dent in door) the description of a guy that tried to run down a cop. I am so glad they showed some restraint.
Ask yourself if that’s something a free man should be saying.
“I’m so glad our masters didn’t light up my wife and baby son.”
Wake. Up.
Are they taking applications?
Yet another great photo!
1. WE AIM TO PLEASE!
2. WE’VE GOT BALLS AS WELL!
3. THE TARGET IS BEHIND YOU, SILLY COWS!
4. WE LIKE TO GREET OUR MEN WITH OPEN ARMS!
5. YOU SHOOT THE 7 DWARVES AN’ LEAVE “SMALL HEIGHT” TO ME!
6. GUNS AND ROSIES
7. THE 8 WIVES OF HENRY THE 6TH
8. WITH THE CAMERA , GIRLS…WITH THE CAMERA!
9. A GOOD, OLD FASHIONED GANGBANG.
10. THERE’S SHAKESPEARE! FIRE AT WILL!
Who’s in favor of outlawing booze? Baptist preachers and bootleggers. Who’s in favor of gun control? Crooks, crooked pols and idiots.
I could not stop laughing!
I read this guy’s “manifesto”.
Clearly psych issues.
Will be interesting to know if these issues were identified while he was with LAPD.
Dorner is purposefully targeting LAPD officers and their families:
http://tinyurl.com/ams8pjr
He dared to cross the thin blue line to expose racism and corruption inside the LAPD, and the skewered him and his military career for it. He is out for vengeance. It’s different than crazy.
yeah……
http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/07/lapd-cop-killer-christopher-dorner-tim-tebow-charlie-sheen-larry-david/
Huh. Interesting article, but they forgot to include what has to be the most awkward “compliment” of all time….
“Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama.” [paragraph 142]
Now they need to vote out those bad people.
Some of those people that showed up to speak should run to replace them.
I always see a lot of talk from gun owners, but never really anything that will change the course we are on.
Any way Texas can steal them like Nick Satan steals our recruits?
Great portrait, Dan. Ignore the Litmus Test Brigade, we’re glad to have ya.
* – Do we have to be on our knees to shoot this guy?
– Well; we ARE the firing squat…..
* – Any last request, moron?
– Sure! Who’ll take care of my pet mouse?
* – Don’t shoot me; I’m only the porno player!!
– That’s why we’re down on our knees aiming at your balls!
Why does anyone need Christopher Dorner, who is using up valuable oxygen with every breath he takes? I hope his former colleagues at the LAPD will soon put an end to such waste — with assault weapons.
In his manifesto he states that on two occasions he had “been afflicted with severe depression.” I’d like to know what he was/is taking for that.
SMFV shoot me first vest was called a fed vest in 1987 n SMFV in 88. This was san Diego ca.
I try to avoid the MSM, but it’s like trying to sleep through a tornado. I did that once in my teen years, but was heavily “self-medicated”.
I do keep this in mind:
http://www.mrc.org/media-reality-check/abc-cbs-nbc-slant-8-1-obamas-gun-control-crusade
Lol “Diane’s Nightmare Giveaway” does it include a “slide-iron stock”?
Greetings!!!!
lapd is shady.
Nick ya beat me to it, I was stuck on a call with the firearms policy coalition! Thanks for posting!!
A) Like SHTFPlan suggests for New York, time to vote with your feet. California is a lost cause to Freedom and Liberty.
Then again, these proposals are a defacto gun ban for 99.9999% of the guns out there. I suggest this violates the 2nd Amendment and makes it unconstitutional.
I would be absolutely stunned if they were able to pass legislation banning anything but a single shot shotgun
When y’all are leaving Cali and NY, I hope you’ll consider a move to Ohio or one of the other swing states. We need your votes or it’ll be Hillary in 2016
THIS IS IT BOYS AND GIRLS.
What will you do? Cower and submit? Or become a Felon?
If you become a Felon you will look over your shoulder every day and live in paranoia. Are you ready to make the decision of your gun owning life?
Will you turn in your guns and relax with the knowledge that a great weight is off your shoulders?
I, too, have read his manifesto. Personally, I think he’s just exasperated with the LAPD. His thoughts are actually quite coherent. However, I, in no way, condone his behavior.
I feel like you’re overreacting here.
Southwest treat me WAY better when I fly with a firearm than Delta or American, and they don’t charge me extra to check it, which many other airlines do.
I’ll continue to give them my business.
Yeah, I read and shake my head at the level of delusion. So are you going to vote for McAuliffe?
Accur81: The Texas Rangers do not accept lateral transfers. All their personnel come from the Department of Public Safety (DPS), of which they are a branch.
Years ago they would take people from another agency. An example is Ramiro (Ray) Martinez, the Austin, Texas police officer who shot and killed Charles Whitman, the UT Tower sniper in 1966. They actually asked him to be a Ranger.
Those days are over, but a friend of mine from our PD joined DPS and actually made it into the Rangers. Maybe you could contact the Texas Department of Public Safety and get the ball rolling…it takes a while. Whatever you do, you need to un-ass Cali for ni a.
I miss the Israeli girls!
This gives a whole new meaning to ROE. There are none. And these people are being trained by the DHS??
I heard about people being at the front of a buy back line to buy the guns that have real value. Probably a good way to flip a gun on gun broker or even find some hard to find ammo.
I didn’t need to muster the energy to wade all through Bragman’s assertions of how the pro gun arguments are flawed. I’m still settling back in the chair I fell out of when he attributed England’s 3X violent crime rate to lead based paint! Show me the protest signs!