UPDATE: Well, that escalated quickly:
CBS Exec Fired for ‘Deeply Unacceptable’ Post About ‘Republican Gun Toters’ After Vegas Shooting – CBS has fired the network’s legal executive who wrote in a social media that she is “not even sympathetic” to victims of Sunday’s Las Vegas shooting, referring to country music fans as “Republican gun toters.
“A top legal executive at CBS, Hayley Geftman-Gold, said she ‘is not even sympathetic’ for the victims of the shooting at a country music festival at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas Sunday night,” dailycaller.com reports. Ms. Geftman-Gold’s post — since deleted — below.
Wow.
The formula is predictable. Announce the latest score compared to the last several shootings, then parade a bunch of politicians, celebrities, and layman reactions (essentially the most uninformed lot they can find) and trumpet whatever gun violence/control agenda using as many politically correct buzzwords as possible while ignoring all logic and facts.
Full retard.
Every once in a while, a Leftist opens the curtains a bit and one can see clearly through the window labeled “Peace and Tolerance”.. Strictly a learning opportunity.
The Las Vegas victims were “live free or die” flag-and-country-loving Americans. They are perfectly happy to have died as long as the second amendment isn’t revoked. They understood that freedom isn’t free, that one of its costs is that you cannot have freedom while also guaranteeing absolute safety. They chose freedom over the safety of totalitarianism, and they would be rolling in their graves to find out that their deaths are being exploited to end the second amendment. They declared that their guns would be taken from their cold dead hands, and it was honored as their final wish.
How sick do you have to be to withhold sympathy for loss of life, contingent on belonging to the correct political ideology?
Thats rhetorical. We all know.
before 2010 i was democratic in lala land los angles cal, i had evil colt sporters python 1911 ect . still live in lala land but now a gun toting republican listening to evil music lol
“Why the !@#$ is it not standard security protocol to have a police sniper’s nest active”
Don’t hyperventilate, it makes you sound like a democrat. It’s not the government’s job to babysit every single target rich environment.
I am sure that was what the shooter thought too.
absolutely nailed it.
She evidently has no idea how little people care what she thinks or not.
What a B. !
The police are now saying that the shooter had multiple automatics both AK and AR.
If they are unmodified then they are black market weapons.
See the end of the linked article.
https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/02/hillary-imagine-vegas-shooter-silencer/
Let’s call, e-mail and tweet at CBS to fire her.
And we are the “Deplorables”????????????
If you want the Hearing Protection Act to pass, then write your Senators and Congressman and tell them you support it. The gun-controllers aren’t going to back down. They are never going to not take advantage of a situation like this to push their agenda. They’ve probably got their minions writing their legislators right now to support some useless gun control bill. If they’re not going to back down, why should we gun owners.
Keeping suppressors on the NFA list isn’t going to stop the next mass murderer, nor is it going to mitigate the casualties they will inflict. No gun control law will. If they can’t get a gun, they will make a bomb or use a truck.
Congressional contact tool from the American Suppressor Association:
https://americansuppressorassociation.com/hearing-protection-act/
She’s a big-time lawyer in the entertainment industry in New York City. ‘Nuff said. She cannot be converted. She obviously looks down her long nose at the “little people”, and the “little people” don’t give a rat’s ass what she thinks in her ivory tower.
I think it’s fair to call the Colfax Massacre a mass shooting. Somewhere between 60 and 150 African Americans were murdered.
COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS THAT COULD HELP PREVENT MASS SHOOTINGS.
The insane blood and carnage on mass shootings must be brought under control and failure to adopt any new laws only guarantees the mass murder will go on and on.
Here are some Common sense gun laws that would help prevent mass shootings. Most have been adopted by civilized Industrial Countries many decades ago and they have for the most part worked a majority of the time. Although there is no panacea for foreign government sponsored terrorism.
1. Mandatory Psychological testing of all gun purchasers. Issue of a gun owners permit to buy.
2. Mandatory vetting of all gun purchases even between individuals and transfers only through licensed dealers.
3. Mandatory use of safes for secure storage of firearms which would prevent not only thefts but child accidental shootings.
4. Mandatory security alarm systems
5. Severe restrictions on magazine capacity for assault rifles.. These weapons are far more deadly than pistols and their extreme deadly long range make it mandatory that high capacity magazines should be outlawed all together. The recent mass murder by a man on the 34th floor has shown the extreme deadliness of the rifle as compared to the pistol.
The U.S. is no longer a Colonial Country of only 3 million people but one of over 300 million people and the old outdated idea that the Second Amendment was written for unrestricted use of firearms shows how outdated our Constitutional System often is by making it almost impossible to adopt laws that are in dire need of 21st Century America. It has been shown that over population not only creates more mentally ill people but it increases all out of proportion to the actual numerical increase in numbers of people. In other words a 50 per cent increase in population does not increase the mentally ill by 50 per cent but often at a far higher percentage rate. Studies done as long as 5 decades ago proved this point.
Failure to provide affordable mental health care has also increased mass murder in the U.S. as well. The U.S. has spent and continues to spend over 53 per cent of its tax revenue on senseless wars of rape, pillage and conquest to enhance the wealth of the filthy rich rather than spend the tax dollars on social programs that provide free education, health care and prescription drug coverage. The U.S. has become less and less a desirable place to live in the current 21st Century Industrialized World as compared to much more Socially Advanced Industrialized Nations. It is not surprising to note that Immigrants and Refugees often prefer other countries to immigrate to instead of the U.S. that in past years was quite the opposite. Even foreign people have now come to view the U.S. as a lawless, and Cruel Capilalvanian country. When even some poor African Countries have lower infant mortality rates than the U.S. does it is a wake up call to anyone contemplating coming here to work or live and to the Americans that must go trying to survive in a country that seems to be coming apart at the seems.
I think too the new insane proposal of cancelling the old severe vetting of silencer purchases is now dead on arrival as it certainly should be. Even with the loud noise of the current mass killing it took awhile before people realized they were hearing gun shots and if the nut case had had a silencer it would have taken them even longer and the direction of the gun fire would have been more difficult to detect by the police as well. As one can see taking off severe vetting of silencers is so insane it defies all common sense.
And yet, you can buy suppressors over the counter in places like New Zealand. Nothing controversial about it.
I’ll let others deliver the thrashing these asinine recommendations have coming. It’s well worn material for me. Besides, others who have only recently come to embrace their human right to armed self-defense could use the practice refuting such arguments.
Here in Brazil we do not, in fact, live in jungles, having the sixth Greatest GDP in the world by 2012, tho incompetent politics tanked it to 9th or so.
The reason I’m saying this is to out in context that we aren’t some desolate African nation.
And you wanna know what’s our average DAILY death toll, murders only? 165. That’s right, around three Las Vegases every. Single. Day.
You guys can guess about how free we are to own firearms.
I dearly hope one day we are as safe and free as the U.S.
I simply don’t care about further gun restrictions. I refuse to bow to political slugs from either party. I choose to die free and fighting rather than on my knees and complaining. The day of reckoning for this nation is fast approaching. Choices will have to be made. I’ve made mine. Liberty and Freedom…Many have given all for that Right. I may be one but I have a son and he deserves to live in a nation without Tyranny and Political Enslavement.
The libs are at it again. They lie and distort the truth. Face it, the mainstream media is in the entertainment business, not in the fact business. Rank and file Law enforcement officers rarely talk with reporters because they know that the media “doesn’t let facts get in the way of a good story”. I hear the media mantra how horrible it is that someone who is on the no fly list, can still buy a gun. Correct, if you haven’t been convicted of a crime you can still buy a gun, no matter who’s “list” your on. These lists mean nothing. They are suspect at best. Hillary was a suspect in numerous felonies, was she banned from flying? Of course not. If we restrict peoples rights based on mere suspicion, half of America would be on a no fly list and unable to own a firearm.
How about reading the constitution and the bill of rights, you might learn something.
Just my .23 cents worth (adjusted for inflation).
Probably going to turn out to be a weapon with a “Bump Fire” Stock or a “Binary Trigger” …the shot cadence seemed a little erratic!
No political commentary here, just deep sadness. Sadness at the loss of life and the horrendous injuries. Sadness that we will likely never know what drove the attack, and how to identify such people and get them to hospital before they strike.
Indicative of erratic behavior, to hazard a guess either going on, coming off, or changing dosage of a prescription med for depression or anxiety.
Or (assuming these reports are even true), what are the chances that he was gambling with “house money”, so to speak: i.e. some sort of payoff money, for the act he was getting ready to commit. (I think that sounds just as likely as the theory that he got into huge gambling debt, and decided as a result of that debt to go on a mass-murdering spree – especially one that was as obviously well-planned as this one.)
Don’t forget everyone, you can watch Russia’s active measures at the following link:
http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/
The NRA needs to get out in front of this one, particularly that full-autos are already effectively illegal.(*) It’s time to go on offense — the D’s permanent talking point is getting people killed.
“This permanent political agenda of Kabuki “gun control” is stopping us from doing things that will actually help, and getting people killed. People will keep getting killed who don’t have to, until we get serious about dealing the violence, and violent people, who kill them. It’s time to stop the side issues and focus on what might help — stopping bad people intent on doing bad things. Guns aren’t the cause, even less are peaceful, responsible people who have never harmed anyone. How about we drop both distractions and focus on what might help.
“The Las Vegas shooting demonstrate, sadly, the limits of what gun laws can do. We at the NRA are all for keeping guns out of the hands of whack-jobs like the LV shooter. Laws don’t do that, while in fact keeping guns out of the hands of people who have done nothing wrong. LV-guy got the arms he used despite the laws, just like the people who shot up Denver last year. (2 years ago ? — ed.)
‘The problem is leaving known risks to run amok. We have seen this in Sandy Hook, in Pulse Nightclub, in Denver, in DC. We see this in the weekly drip without end of innocent people killed in Chicago, Baltimore, and DC (again) — killed by people already prohibited from having guns. If that weren’t enough, our friends in Europe, Asia, and Australia demonstrate that restrictive gun laws don’t stop whack-jobs, or cartel thugs for whom a bit of the old Ultra-Violence is just a cost of doing business. Every gun used to shoot up Paris, Belgium, etc. was already illegal. (Not to mention bombs in Boston, London, Spain, and more. Bombs are illegal. Doesn’t stop malicious individuals from setting them off.)
“The Sandy Hook shooter was known to be troubled. The Pulse Nightclub shooter was a(nother) “Known Wolf.” The parade of shooters in our cities have criminal histories, gang affiliations, and even multiple prior gun crimes. None of these people can legally have a gun, already. Yet those restrictions don’t stop them from finding a way to do the harm they want to do. (None of the guns used by Las Vegas Whack-Job were legal for citizens, either(**) — the details are technical, but not having “a folding thing that goes up” or similar.)
“We in the NRA are appalled to see the tools we use peacefully turned to evil by evil people … just as appalled as Mercedes must bee to see their trucks turned into human-reapers, or Boeing to see their planes turned into flying firebombs.
“There’s been more than enough redirection of tragedies into useless posturing. The US assault weapons ban did literally nothing to reduce “gun crime” or “gun deaths” — made up categories but we’ll go with them for now. Increasing citizen gun ownership in the US over the last 2 decades corresponds to a steady *decrease* in gun deaths and even mass shootings.
It isn’t the guns. Let’s find the courage to look at what will actually help, and do that. The deranged person who shot Gabby Giffords (and killed several others outright), was recognized as a danger to himself and others long before he ambushed the object his obsession. Why wasn’t he stopped before it happened? The guns used in Sandy Hook harmed no-one until that whack-job picked them up.
“The NRA’s gun safety education and marksmanship programs work toward our goal that no-one be *accidentally* hurt with a gun. No amount of training or practice by peaceful, responsible people will help with people who *intentionally* use guns to do harm. Except, of course, training helps peaceful, responsible people stop killings in progress, which happens 14(***) times a day in the US.
“Armed, responsible citizens are doing our part. We could use some help from the people who know the “known wolves” to stop this kind of thing before it gets to us.
“Maybe, at last, after this one, we can have that conversation. We’re the NRA, and we’d like you help with the actual problem.
(*) Speculated. Not entirely clear yet.
(**) True if he used modern full-autos. Adjust as needed.
(***) Get the real number from CDC or FBI statistics.
NO, HIS MOTIVATION IS ONE AND THE SAME EXCLUSIVELY AS WITH ALL OF SOURCE EVIL IN THIS WORLD OF OURS; THAT BEING ONE WHOSE GOD IS SELF AND THAT IS IN EFFECT, SATAN/THE DEVIL/LUCIFER/ALLAH AND ALL OF THE OTHER MULTITUDE OF NAMES GIVEN OUR TRIUNE GOD’S ADVERSARY!; THAT THE FACT WELL KNOW TO ALL THAT BELONG TO OUR CREATOR, OUR TRIUNE GOD, JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.
Three years of text messages? Out if curiosity, whom keeps three years of text messages?
The phone companies, certainly APPLE, nothing on the I-net is ever really deleted, only moved.
Does it really matter WHY he did it??? The only problem is it would have been better if he’d of done it 500 rounds sooner. In the end we my never know the why. Most likely all we’ll get is the made up conjecture of the SO-CALLED experts. Keep Your Powder Dry…
“Will Gun Laws Change Following the Mandalay Bay Shooting?”
Not if the Republicans want even the SLIGHTEST chance of keeping the White House, House and Senate.
I highly doubt National reciprocity will ever pass, just as I doubt that suppressors will ever be removed as a NFA item.
..and it could be that some new gun control legislation is going to move forward now. The people in Congress could care less.
I think another AWB or similar is coming.
A ban on firearms in hotels will be a windfall for auto burglars and the hardened criminals they sell their ill-gotten gains to.
Yes, let’s take Japan as an example. Oh wait we already did. Remember that tidbit called the “rape of nanking”? How about the “comfort women of Korea”?
That’s the problem with you violent ANTIFA types. You suck at history. Always shooting your mouth off before thinking. Oh wait, you can’t think. Oh well.
False flag! Fake news! God hates us! It was Antifa! ISIS! LIBRULS! AHHHHHHHH! *
*A mocking recreation of comments on TTAG by whackadoo commenters so far.
I have never seen a machine gun with a scope. The repeated reviol would make it worthless in FA fire.
I bave listened to the video. Not FA fire in my opinion. Too slow a rate of fire and not perfectly spaced during each string.
The cyclic rate of a weapon changes as it heats up, as it does in a long string of shooting (Look at IraqVet8888’s ak/ar meltdown videos), and the initial strings of fire were very consistent (as indicated by that one twitter video, where they sounded almost like a helicopter).
That said… I think the smart money is on it being some manner of garage-shop modification to the firing pin, firing pin channel, or sear, causing it to dump its magazine uncontrollably.
“Do I go too far here?”
Yes. Yes, you did.
Gathering with like-minded people (fans of a certain team, listeners of a certain artist, worshipers of a certain God, members of a certain political party) is a most enjoyable aspect of human existence. Refraining from such activity because of some perceived risk is folly and would only serve to reduce the quality of life for everyone.
The fact remains, riding in a motor vehicle on the public roadways is far and away the most dangerous thing most Americans do on a daily basis. Everything else, from attending a concert to visiting a gun range, is several orders of magnitude safer by comparison.
Oh an criminal not following hughes adment ? *ironie*
US citizens own about 300,000,000 guns, which aren’t used for anything like this massacre, or even casually brandished, ever.
The gun owners of America aren’t this guy. Gun Owners of America, the organization, stands with any effort to stop whack-jobs from massacring people at concerts, with guns or any tool.
After reading the article I have a couple of counter arguments that I feel need to be made. ( full disclosure I am not an american so feel free to tell me to butt out and mind my own buysness )
1. Nearly every headline about this murder has referred to the perpetrator as a “shooter” or a “gunman.” I understand the fear that guns will be demonized and gun owners stigmatized as a group after the attack. But come on, he shot almost 60 people dead “shooter” is a pretty accurate description here. You can argue that “gunman” is more sensationalist and I will grant you that. But it’s not that far off the mark, this wasn’t a mass stabbing or a bombing. I do however agree that attention should not be focused on the weapons used. In the US there will always be easy access to guns there is simply no escaping that.
2. I agree with you on this. The mental health angle and the motive of the individual need to be examined in greater detail and understood in depth. Since guns are there to stay, for better or worse ( that’s up to the american people to judge ) there will always be mass shootings, there is no perfect system. However if more attention is given to helping people with mental health issues it may help reduce the frequency of the events.
3. I think you go too far here. Don’t go to concerts or movies or the theater or the opera or a sporting event or a night club is your advice, how about a restaurant or a ted talk or the park? In a city there is nothing to do (other than staying home) that does not involve a crowded place and in developed nations almost 75% of the population lives in cities. While I understand the spirit in which the advice is given I personally feel it’s not good advice. There will always be places and circumstances that will render you vulnerable or even defenseless, but the gains in my opinion far outweigh the risks. Having a gun on your hip is not a magic shield from harm it’s exactly like insurance. It gives you a much better fighting chance under some circumstances but does not cover every eventuality and getting it to cover everything would be too “expensive” to be worth it.
Way to “insert action item of the day” here, Tim.
Does someone pull the string on your back, or are you battery powered, like other dildos?
All 5 million NRA members or 150million gun owners? Must have been hot.
Jackass
Just saw it, y’all got trolled.
My original post disappeared.