“The suspected gunman behind the Las Vegas massacre made several large gambling transactions in recent weeks, according to multiple senior law enforcement officials and a casino executive,” nbcnews.com reports. “On multiple occasions, Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day — and in some cases amounts greater than $20,000 and $30,000 — at Las Vegas casinos.” What’s not being said here . . .
https://youtu.be/vcadVZCw0po
is whether or not those “transactions” were losses. What are the odds? In fact, what are the odds that Mr. Paddock gambled away all his money?
His brother Eric said Stephen Paddock had no political or religious motivation for his murderous rampage. He characterized the killer as “just a guy” who “snapped.” According to washingtonpost.com . . .
Eric Paddock said his brother often gambled in tens of thousands of dollars. “My brother is not like you and me. He plays high-stakes video poker,” he said. “He sends me a text that says he won $250,000 at the casino.”
Eric Paddock said he showed the FBI three years of text messages from his brother and said he had no information whether Stephen Paddock had gambling debts or was financially troubled. “I have absolutely no information he lost a bunch of money. The casino would know that,” he said.
Eric Paddock said his brother previously worked as an accountant but also had real estate investments, including houses and apartments around Orlando. He said Stephen Paddock had no kids and plenty of money to play with.
Right until he didn’t? Would financial ruin have driven the killer to wreak revenge on Las Vegas? If so, will we ever learn the truth of it?
It sounds more to me like he had everything planned out well in advance, knew he going to be making a murderous suicide run and figured he could gamble everything away, since the end was near.
Yeah, but. . . get pissed at Las Vegas (or casinos, or A casino) and shoot up a country music concert across the street?
Anyone announce what political party he was yet?
I DON’T know…This all sounds pretty sketchy to me…Sounds like another funky “False Flag” event…”Deep State” anyone…
He’d been in Vegas since Thursday, would have had to leave guns in car so maid didn’t see them, hard to hide 19 guns in a hotel room from the maid. I think he’d been planning on doing this for some time. A string of big gambling losses and drinking would have been big contributors…
What, three golf bags couldn’t get it done?
Does smell a little like cheese.
I’ve been to a number of shooting events in Vegas and had my firearms in the room. I kept them cased and in the closet or under the bed. I saw a lot of other people in the hotel also walking in with guns. This part of the story doesn’t surprise me at all.
It could be that the ramping effect you hear is echo. Gunfire as most of us know, sounds differently in an urban concrete and steel atmosphere.
I would ask as our President did, for us to use this as an opportunity to come together, and turn towards God. If you are not a believer, please turn towards our shared citizenship and Constitution.
Just because someone is not a believer, doesn’t mean they are evil or do not care about society, family, friends and community. The one thing this horrible act shows us is that evil is real in the world. People say believers Judge others while exempting their own minds and souls from moral/ethical failure.
My Faith states that everyone has moral and ethical failures. And when a person with those moral and ethical failures encounters, is given, takes, vast power and influence, these moral/ethical failures are usually magnified exponentially.
The Founding Fathers, who were very flawed people, both understood this fact about the human soul, and distrusted each other because of it. This is borne out in the original Constitution.
It allowed that people who were in bondage be counted as part of a person, and not counted as a full citizen with full rights. It also did not list women, (yes, back then they believed in the obvious differences between men and women existed) should be considered as full citizens.
In this document, the Founders showed their weakness because of the want to keep wealth and power by exploiting others. But by Providence, and a unique understanding of their own flaws, they wrote the Bill of Rights, including citizens Right to Bear Arms, along with the, (although very difficult), ability to amend the document/agreement.
Their are so many checks and balances written into the Constitution that the distrust and understanding of our shared moral/ethical failure is obvious. This is a characteristic of what was called Western Values. Although some disagree, I believe this attitude evolved, way of life, came from the Jews, then Jewish Christians, Middle East, Turkish area, Greeks, Romans, and then all over the Western World. It comes from the idea that our rights come from a Creator, and are not subject to the winds of power, corruption, and public opinion.
It details a journey of justification with our Creator from groups of people, to an individual person/soul. We have been baited, and then pulled apart by forces trying to group our Citizens by race, gender and ethnic background.
We are individuals, with individual rights mandated by our Creator. I may have a certain race, ethnicity, or gender. That grouping may be interesting historically, or for maybe a predisposition to certain illnesses. I found out I have a great deal of Scandinavian genes. However, I do not identify with historical Vikings. I am an individual American Citizen, who I believe, was created in the image of my Creator, with unique DNA, and soul. My life is of value, just for that reason alone.
If we follow our Constitution, we can all agree to disagree, but in a civil way under the law. And understand that because we are all morally/ethically fallen, we need a standard above ourselves that cannot be crossed. If you put your faith in a human being, you will always be disappointed.
In my Faith, I (TRY) to do the right thing because of love for what I believe our Creator did for me, not for fear of judgement, or anger about my belief in the unfairness of life. First thing on path to God, we are all morally/ethically flawed, and our life on earth is not fair.
And for all who don’t believe in anything except might means right, you ought to be happy that the folks that hold onto our God and our Guns, put our God first on that list, and the fact that order will never change.
May God Bless our Nation
I’d have to wonder about the various social media outlets of ISIS and friends claiming the attack was done by a recently converted man who did this in their name. Also the whereabouts of his apparent girlfriend who appears to have been a Southeast Asia Muslim from the Philippines or Indonesia. If anything the massive gambling was likely something to do because he didn’t need the money where he was going.
I do not know about you, but it seems awfully coincidental that Everytown wants a conversation on gun control only when white people get shot.
When black people (even kids) are shot to death in Chicago, they are strangely silent.
Is this really a coincidence?
Fortunately the California Legislature cannot introduce any new bills until December. Perhaps some of this will have blown over by then. As it is, it has been illegal to purchase or sell any automatic firearms in this state since 1/1/2000. And it is illegal to possess any silencer or component parts. They’ve banned sales of new AR/AK firearms unless equipped with a fixed magazine or are “featureless.” Magazines greater than ten rounds cannot be bought or sold, and any 10+ mags legally owned (by being possessed prior to 1/1/2000) have also been outlawed (although a lawsuit is pending and a temporary restraining order has issued preventing the State from enforcing the law at the current time). All firearms transactions must be processed by an FFL. And last but not least, a bill was passed that will eventually require the retroactive “registration of ALL firearms owned in the state, even if purchased prior to the DROS registration law. [Technically, the state does not call it “registration,” only a “dealer record of sale,” but it is still a computerized and searchable database.] No new models of pistols have been available for sale since May, 2013, ever since Kamala Harris improperly certified that microstamping technology complying with the 2007 statute existed and was generally available (it isn’t, but that didn’t stop her).
Unless they decide to ban all semiauto firearms (a bill doing just that was proposed last session but did not progress), there isn’t a whole lot more they can do to us. I am sure they would love to ban all guns, but McDonald v. City of Chicago pretty much keeps them from doing so, which is why they’ve gone for the incremental approach described above.
Both California U.S. senators are rabid gun banners, so there is no hope there. The representatives are a mixed bag, but there is a very strong anti-gun tilt, even from the Southern California Republican representatives. The rural representatives are pretty solid, but a distinct minority.
When will they ban assault casinos? Needless violence against wallets and bank accounts is easily preventable. No one needs to gamble! Think of the children!
Updated, legitimate statistics from the CDC show an increase in the rate of homicides.
You are not telling the truth about guns. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6631a9.htm
I just recently deleted over a 1,000 messages from the kids, apiece. I upgraded phones.
We’ll know more once the autopsy’s done.
he owned 2 airplanes, property, probably received a pension and had enough money to buy anywhere between 10 and 20 guns (WSJ says 20) so..NO he was probably not motivated to almost kill 600 innocent people by gambling debts
The police breached the hotel room door quite some time after the shooting stopped, right? Paddock was already dead, we’re told, a suicide. Is it fantastical to consider the possibility that he was killed before the massacre which was carried out by some party or parties unknown and who left the scene before the police arrived?
TTAG…please change the picture at the top of this post. No need to see the image of the dead girl and her grieving friends.
Anyone who gambles that much is probably a really impulsive and reckless guy in general. Probably wasnt mentally stable or some with underlying mental health issues that are gonna come up in the next few days. Has anyone found this guys facebook page?
I have the Gerber Dime (thing on the keychain). It was worth it’s weight in gold the day I ended up covered knees to toes in burrs and had to pull them out one by one.
Why would a shooter need that many rifles for a singular task?
I thought floors above a certain height were mandatory to have shatter proof windows to prevent suicides?
Just some questions.
“Bump-fire, hellfire (that name is going to play real well in the media), whatever was used is our “fun” worth a single person’s life?” I assume that you want the gun enthusiast community to call for bump-fires to be made illegal.
That won’t help, because full-auto conversions are easy for any guy with a Bridgeport mill and access to the internet. Material cost is near zero. Or heck with conversions, just make a carload of Sten guns; the plans for those are everywhere.
It also won’t buy any friendship from the gun-grabbers. Read today’s Chicago Tribune calling for the banning of ALL semi-automatics. You’ll never appease them by banning only bump-firing. They believe we aren’t even human, simply because we enjoy guns. Don’t give them an inch.
It’s also absurd to believe that one of America’s most successful mass-murderers would be stopped by a bump-fire law. After all, it’s definitely illegal to shoot a concert full of 20,000 fans. Pretty sure he knew that.
Well one thing is obvious. The guy put a lot of time and thought and money into this massacre. Such a hideous crime.
Ban guns altogether…and just like drugs…those that want guns WILL find a way to get them…legal or not.
Laws affect the law-abiding.
Sentencing is what affects the law-breakers…but only after the fact.
isn’t it a BIPOD?
Stayed at Mandalay Bay many times. There are about 3 to 4 windows per room. There is just way too much room between the two shot out windows for it to be one room or 2 adjoining rooms. I wouldn’t be surprised it there was more than one shooter. Praying for everyone involved.
Feel better now?
This is the most well written article on TTAG in a long time. Bravo sir, bravo.
5.56 400 yards, elevated position against 22k people in a mass group….aiming not required.
I did not vote for Trump. But right now, I’m thanking God that Hillary is not the President….
His name is gopnik? Like what they call white trash scumbags in russia? Great name dude. You can’t make this stuff up.
“I’m saying something as fundamental as: “Going on a mass murder spree is something fundamentally evil and wrong.”
Excuse me, but what the f@ck is wrong with our society that we can’t seem to sell that idea to people? We really haven’t had this problem before. Now we do. What’s changed?”
We’ve produced a degenerate society that has a lot of shiny stuff, but is essentially empty inside. We are a nation that prosperity has turned into narcissistic children that violently lash out for any, and no, reason. We’ve done this to our selves. Principles are harder than convenience. Thinking is harder than not. It’s easier to sit on your ass and watch some bullshit on TV than reading Locke. I don’t think I can do better than Chuck Palahniuk in summing it up:
“Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don’t need. We’re the middle children of the history man, no purpose or place, we have no Great war, no Great depression, our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives, we’ve been all raised by television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars, but we won’t and we’re slowly learning that fact. and we’re very very pissed off.”
I went to the gunshop yesterday and bought two 20 round mags for my 308. I ordered another AR15 lower receiver and a new replacement barrel. Next payday I’m stocking up on reloading components and powder. We are in for another dry spell.
He said he will be talking about gun laws as time goes by and refused to comment on the SHARE act.
On one hand it sounds like he is reconsidering his position, on the other it sounds like he is placating the hysterical media.
Personally I think he is waiting it out to see what popular opinion will be in the coming weeks before doing anything.
I wish he would just say the laws we have on the books are sufficient and need to be properly enforced, that new laws would not help prevent a situation like this and just hinder law abiding Americans. He won’t do that though. He wants to be as palatable as possible. I have faith he will eventually do the right thing, but I also believe he is wavering on that for the time being.
When it is revealed that Paddock was a politically motivated left wing terrorist – AND IT WILL COME OUT – this bill is done. 2nd Amendment hating Dems, and gutless RINOs will trample each other heading for political cover.
You know what we need!?? We need more laws of course. But not only that, we need some laws that legislate how fast people are allowed to shoot their semi-auto rifles and pistols.
Are you shooting your gun too fast out in your back pasture, bump firing, or binary triggering, or just holding your gun in a relaxed manner, or maybe you are just too well trained at firing fast with a semi-auto. We need some legislation for this. And we need to make it a felony too – so you can no longer own guns.
Give the dementiatards (you may steal that)NOTHING. Why the caving? If 20little kids didn’t do it with Odumbo at the helm why should Las Vegas?!?
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