California voters recently ratified Proposition 63. That particular piece of unconstitutionality requires all Golden State ammo sales be conducted face-to-face, via a licensed ammo vendor. Come January, California customers ordering ammo online will have to pick-up their order at a licensed vendor and pay a $25 transfer fee. How great is that? So great that residents are flocking online before the deadline. Ammoman.com’s press release tells the tale . . .
California Experiencing Ammo Buying Rush Ahead of Proposition 63
California shooters and hunters are looking to fill their stockings with lead this holiday season ahead of the new year and new ammo regulations going into effect.
Ammunition retailer AmmoMan.com is seeing a massive influx of California customers as holiday shopping and the impact of Proposition 63 bears down on the West Coast.
Sales to California are up considerably this holiday season as the impact of Proposition 63 starts January 1. As an example of this trend – California currently makes up about twice as much of AmmoMan.com’s overall sales as it did last year during the same time period.
Some notable individual California cities showing considerable gains include:
· Anaheim – +449%
· Bakersfield – +295%
· Concord +968%
· Fresno – +87.6%
· Lancaster – +268%
· Los Angeles – +128%
· Redding – +325%
· Roseville – +180%
· Sacramento – +177%
· San Diego – +39.3%
· San Francisco – +63.9%
· Santa Clara – +315%
· Stockton – +17%
Note: AmmoMan.com cannot ship directly to customers within the city limits of many municipalities already due to local laws. This data is pulled from Google Analytics and indicates where the IP Address of the customer was at the time of the order. These shipments are typically made to suburbs of the major metro areas.
“It’s really the usual suspects that are seeing the biggest bump when it comes to increased volume. It’s 9mm handgun ammo and .223/5.56 ammo on the rifle side of things,” Eric Schepps of AmmoMan.com said. “These calibers are quite common for recreational range shooters during ‘normal’ ammo markets so it seems shooters are stocking up to ensure they have more on-hand ahead of the new year.”
In part because of growing support from California, AmmoMan.com invested in faster shipping to the West Coast – adding an operation that allows the retailer to reach 97% of the country with delivers in 2-days or less.
“We believe this puts us in a great position to continue building one of the best ammo-buying experiences around,” Schepps said. “We don’t anticipate Prop. 63 changing the way of life so many of our customers are passionate about.”
The retailer expects California to remain one of the top states for ammo consumption among civilians. Historical sales data shows California consistently in the top 3 U.S. states for ammo buying and this year, California is clearly in the top spot. The investment in better processes to serve West Coast shooters is indicative of that belief; The retailer will now reach 97% of the United States with deliveries in two days or less.
“This is an exciting move. Cheap ammo is a wonderful thing and getting it delivered faster is always better. We’re excited to lead the way for the whole industry.” Schepps said.
Gun and ammo companies cannot let the CA market go. It would ruin many of these companies.
I did a red neck estimate based on my age and figured how many rounds of ammo I’d need for hunting and practice for the rest of my active life. Then I placed orders for months. Some here, some there. I have enough, I believe, so that even if I finish my life here I will not have to go to a store and pay that ridiculous permit fee.
I have no need to buy any more guns or ammo. And I will not so long as this ‘constitutional rights are based on my zip code’ nonsense lasts.
As others here have said (if not in so many words), gun-control “researchers” aren’t insane. They’re professional liars.
The truth about guns in our society is easy for anyone to see. Graph 30 years of the FBI’s yearly violent crime reports and put them next to a graph of yearly NICS checks. The gun sales keep going up and up and up. And where does violent crime go? Down.
The anti-gun researchers and their presstitute allies are paid to obscure the simple truth.
Good luck to all of you on the left coast. Stack deep, I hope that ammo companies are giving priority.
Pretty soon the grabbers will all be bitching that people in California buy “thousands of rounds at a time” or some nonsense.
“You might not think that a middle-aged woman cleaning a house in an island paradise would need to carry a gun to protect herself …”
Nor would you think that a 70 year-old woman cleaning a small church in a nice small town would need to carry a gun to protect herself:
http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article173208011.html
I am glad yours worked so well. A buddy of mine had one, and it was a jamomatic. Worked about 70% of the time. I liked the overall feel. Just not the jams.
Will Ammoman honor 03 FFL + COE holders, and ship to us without going through an “Ammunition Vendor,” as SGAmmo has already committed to do?
Why was Mr. Norman arrested? The first paragraph below clearly states that an accidental flashing is not illegal. This was from handgunlaw.us
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly
carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this
section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully
carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in
necessary self-defense.
Brief, accidental expose is legal, so I’m thinking there must be at least a little more to the story.
New York, if you do not like the Constitution, you have two choices – amend it or secede. Since there is no way you will be able to get enough states on board to lawfully amend the Constitution the way you want it, secede. I won’t stop you. Continue to usurp the Constitution and you may not like the results.
I don’t know about the CA law but a lot of on line ammo sellers still think that the NY SAFE Act prohibits internet / mail order sales directly to private buyers. The big guys like Cabela’s, Midway, etc. will not even ship ammo to NY state at all. Others will only ship to FFLs or “licensed sellers of ammunition”.
According to the law, that will not be necessary unless and until the ammunition data base is created and declared in operation by the NY State Police. The SP have openly stated that the database is not funded and there are no plans to create it. Status quo.
At least there are some on line sellers who will sell and ship directly to private citizens. They’re getting all the business.
These type of statements only make them sound more ignorant. All in our favor.
“…the powerful semi-automatic assault rifle…”
Who writes this shit? So much fail in so few words. Ignore the “semi automatic assault rifle” part for a second.
Have you seen pictures of this kid? He was a shrimp. How exactly did he wield a “powerful” rifle with such deadly efficiency?
Let’s see, the M16 came on as a replacement for the M14 because the M14 was (among other things) too powerful and too heavy for most trained soldiers to make rapid, well placed follow up shots. But now I’m supposed to believe that the AR-15, the civvie model with no giggle switch, is ultra powerful, yet handling it is so facile that this diminutive kid who looks like he’s never seen a free weight in his life can handle it with ease?
That’s like saying the new Corvette “is so powerful that people who passed drivers ed yesterday can race it with ease at Le Mans”. The statement is flat-the-fuck-out stupid and so is the person who wrote it.
I wish they would make these in .327Federal Magnum, in a steel frame with adjustable sights…Please!?!
. We don’t need no water, let the mother fucker burn, burn mother fucker burn
You’re first mistake is putting all women into the same category. We are ALL different. We carry what is comfortable; what we’ll practice with and what will do the job.
You’re second mistake is ASSuming all women should just simply carry a small firearm. I haven’t found a .380 I even remotely liked to shoot, which is often what ‘menfolk’ recommend for women.
It’s not just about carrying or ‘fashion,’ we have to LIKE the gun (grip, recoil, trigger, racking the slide easily etc) so that we’ll actually practice so we CAN protect ourselves if ever necessary.
So rather than just make a sweepingly broad statement that all women should carry small guns, give the advice that they should check out a lot of DIFFERENT guns, find one they know they’ll practice with; figure out how they prefer to carry on body based on varying clothing they may wear and find a holster that will do the job (most women I know have a drawer full of holster from trying varying types or using various types).
I know some women who carry .22s, .45s, .380s, .40s, 9mm… it’s all about what WE find best suited for OUR self defense, not based on fashion. That’s what holsters are for.
I’m a Rifle Nut and mostly for Big Game hunting. Over the years I’ve tried just about every rifle from cheap to full custom and can find something I do not like about any rifle in minutes! Guess that makes me picky. I’ve also hunted the world with many different rifles and at the moment of truth, there has never been a failure to go bang! I learned long ago not to swallow/regurgitate the BS of gun authors and form my own opinions. What drew me to this article was I recently purchased an older wood stocked Remington 700 BDL in 300 Win Mag and when I got home questioned what I was thinking? A blued weighty rifle with shiny wood stock and pressure point!
I’m really not a 700 fan, but for some reason that rifle hanging on the wall at my local gun shop was calling to me. It was placed on consignment just 5 minutes earlier and the owner, an older man was still in the store. I heard him telling the clerk behind the counter that he was from Alaska and that this BDL had been his only rifle up there for years. That it was his lucky rifle and had killed many caribou, moose, deer and bear without fail. All using bargain Remington shells with 180 Core-Lokt bullets.
As I listened to this older fellow, I noticed the rifle had several beauty marks and thought to myself that it actually was in pretty good condition for an Alaskan field gun. The low $425 asking price was screaming “buy me”! The rifle even came with a partial box of Remington shells with a Pay-N-Pack price sticker. As I hefted the rifle I realized I had not owned a wood stocked rifle for years and most of my guns are stainless and plastic. The wood felt good. The wood felt warm and brought back memories of when I first started hunting. This 700 was a hunting gun and possibly a lucky one at that. At that moment I did not care the wood stock might swell, or that the blue rust… or that this 700 might not be sub moa, or that it weigh more than my other lightweights. I tried to walk as the store clerk hung it back up on the wall and another customer showed an interest. I had taken one step, turned around and declared out loud… “I’ll Take It”!
Oh man, with a 700 one can easily rebuild the entire gun… and just to possibly match the performance of my Tikka T3 Lite, Kimber Montana, Mossberg Patriot, Winchester XPR and those right out of the box! Blueprint the action, custom match grade barrel, Brown Precision stock… But why? It’s a hunting rifle and all I should concern myself with is that it’s accurate to say 400 yards, (yada, yada, yada… I’ve killed long range and well beyond 400 and have decided I respect the game I hunt more than my desire to prove my manhood) be safe and reliable. I decided long ago that the 300 Winchester was about as close to the best all round North American big game HUNTING cartridge as there is- if I had to pick just one. (338 Win pretty darn close)
So, I will do as little as possible to this BDL, as I do not want to take away any of the luck it may have! But it will be difficult not to put in a Timney trigger, Tubbs titanium speed lock firing pin, stronger Holland bolt stop spring, Limbsaver pad and lap the bore/chamber. What about free floating and a bedding job? Stop, where does it end?
It may sound funny, but this cheap, older BDL has a place in my safe now and just may become my favorite. It’s more traditional and a good looking rifle and one I would take pretty much on any low-land hunt. It reminds me what hunting used to mean and I expect this Lucky tool to bring home the game! After all it’s not plastic, not stainless or technical… it’s a 700! Now if I could only learn to appreciate the beloved Model 70…
On Friday, Dandurand and Brown laughed and smirked at news cameras when they were brought to the Honolulu Police Department headquarters to be booked.
That’s the reason why my blood is boiling. Let’s face it – These animals don’t deserve a humane punishment. But we’re supposedly civilised. It’s too bad they can’t be extradited to Texas – They know what to do with evil maniacs.
Except the Californian dinosaurs, no guns for them.They can have sex with a different species tho,
Therapod Lives Matter.
The real focus should be the deliberate negligence in the face of known attacks on schools to provide the required measures to ensure no one can enter unless deliberately let in by staff. Sandy Hook did not install bullet proof doors, no radio links to law enforcement, no staff training to handle such situations, and refused to hire armed security that could have intervened and maybe stopped it! I hope this suit blows up in their faces and they are again forced to pay ALL LEGAL fees for those they are suing!
I, like other CA firearm owners, have been judiciously buying ammunition over the last year in preparation for the InterWeb-ordered door closing. With my limited range time, I’m stocked for at least the time it’ll take for the wife and I to settle our affairs and leave this socialistic cesspool for a free-state.
Haha, nicely done.
Not necessarily insane, but totally ideological and unscientific. Gun control researchers who are pro-gun control like to claim gun violence is a public health issue, which basically let’s them start from the get-go with the “truism” that guns are bad for a society. For example, nobody has to first determine whether an epidemic of Ebola, smallpox, typhoid, cholera, etc…has benefits for a society. It’s known at the start that it’s a bad thing. Whereas to properly research the subject of guns in a society, one must first look at both the positives and the negatives. But that requires looking at it from a non-public health point-of-view, such as for example a criminological point-of-view. And to claim that gun violence is a public health issue is really absurd, because why people use guns to kill other people is an issue of criminology, not public health.
The issue of suicides with guns and whether guns increase suicides, and accidental shootings, could be an area of public health, but in terms of homicides, that is criminology. It’s like studying the difference between the causes of car accidents versus why people run over other people with cars.
As the slide down the slippery slope continues. It NEVER ENDS folks.
WAARNING ANERICA, commie kalifornia is like an STD. Infectious and spreads. WAKE THE F UP!
For a court to rule that selling a rifle to an affluent soccer mom constitutes negligent entrustment would be to enact a new “assault weapon” ban, which Congress has repeatedly declined to do, by judicial fiat. Hell, it would practically be a Constitutional Amendment by judicial fiat. I certainly hope that Connecticut courts are not so brazen.
I have a question.
What other constitutional right is Taxed? From fees to get a permit to fees to buy Ammo? Should the state absorb the cost of NICS checks? When people protest they don’t send a bill to the protestors for police protection? Why do we have to pay a fee or tax for our rights?
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What happens when someone with a pacemaker walks in?
Hey, TTAG –
While at the SHOT show, ask the folks at Etymotic if they can send you a T&E pair of their ‘Gunsport Pro’ earplugs for a look-see (hearing?), could you?
Thanks!
Why microwaves instead of a regular metal detector? Or is it the same?
Being one-way visible, that ammo has definite military and personal defense applications…
really? a $15,000 watch on a babysitter???
I’m unimpressed. Sure the first listed gun is a revolver, but a .357 is a handful for lots of people, and it costs more than a revolver needs to.
A police surplus S&W .38 Special works, works well, and they can be had inexpensively – between $300 and $400. Late models of the S&W 10 handle +P ammo. There are modern .38 Special defense loads that achieve 12″+ of penetration through denim.
The CZ line of guns, especially the CZ-75, is under-appreciated in the US. The CZ-75 is the 1911 of the eastern European bloc. They can be found surplused for $300 on up. They’re hard to make go wrong.
A Bersa? Jeez, man. Talk about making the exercise of hitting one’s target harder than it needs to be. The Bersa is a CCW piece, meant for close engagements. The sights are pretty poor, and the sight radius is quite short.
The thing about home defense guns is that they’d better be ready to be used by anyone in the house – that might include the Missus, and she might not be a gun gal. Revolvers make the perfect “point and click” interface for people who aren’t going to put in the training to do “tap-rack-bang” drills for a short-stroke malfunction, etc.