From B&T . . .
B&T USA is excited to introduce its 16-inch barreled model of its all-new SPC9-series. Born from a European tender requesting a 9mm carbine with the same handling characteristics and ergonomics as the AR platform, the all-new SPC9 incorporates many of the features found on the B&T APC9, MP5 and AR platforms combined into one, very versatile platform.
Lightweight and reliable, well balanced and accurate, safe and modular — the SPC9 checks all the boxes and is one of the lightest recoiling 9mm carbines available, thanks in part to B&T’s innovative and effective hydraulic buffer system.
“The new 16-inch barreled SPC9 is a PCC competitors dream — the carbine is incredibly flat shooting, handles like a race car and has minimal recoil thanks to B&T’s effective hydraulic buffer system” said Jon Scott, Vice President of Sales, B&T USA. “We expect the SPC9 16-inch to dominate both at home and on the competitive field, thanks to an ideal formula of features.
Those in search of a premium home defense solution would be well served by this very lightweight, well balanced and incredibly easy to shoot well platform — flatteringly so. Most importantly the SPC9 has a proven record of reliability, produced by a company who has built its reputation on being dependable in the most austere conditions imaginable.”
Some of the features found on the SPC9 are time proven while others are state-of-the-art and modern. One of the unique features of SPC9-series is that it is equipped with two different charging handle systems. One of these is the handle found on AR platforms, while the other is a non-reciprocating, foldable charging handle located above the barrel. This gives the user the choice to use whatever manual of arms that is preferred; both systems are ambidextrous.
MSRP = $2,625
MSRP = $2,625
[sprays coffee on monitor]
I am more the Beretta CX4/Ruger pc9/generic AR 9mm demographic (or whatever is legal here at the moment) so would I be correct in assuming this is more a competition type gun?
Yeah, that $2,625 MSRP is a really hard pass for me.
Kudos to you (and the manufacturer B&T) if that is a nice value for you.
MSRP = $2,625
[dumps entire mug of coffee on floor]
How about an affordable sub-$1K PCC in 10mm?
Waiting for them to catch up in producing handguns in 10mm let alone pcc………. interested in that too just first things first.
“How about an affordable sub-$1K PCC in 10mm?”
Right here, sir :
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-hi-point-1095ts-edge-10mm-carbine/
*snicker*… 😉
LOL ok neat but how about something NY compliant.
Why the *snicker*. from what I heard, the 10mm HiPoint carbine is rugged, reliable and accurate. Ugly, yeah but that can be “fixed” with kits.
Personally, the only drawback for me is the limited magazine capacity
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OK, a little more serious here.
I’m not an operator operating operationally. I built a PCP(istol) AR platform for well under $500 (couple of years ago, granted) using a conventional (thus reusable) lower and MeanArms EndoMag inserts. They kick butt, and I have NEVER had problems with them or the platform. MAYBE a couple feed issues. Maybe.
It doesn’t have a hydraulic buffer, but basically doesn’t kick at all.
Yes, I drool over fancy gear. Yes I want them all. But reality kicks in and I have a reliable platform, fully tricked out, for under $500.
I have bills to pay, and retirement to save for. All of you that can afford this, go nuts. ENJOY IT!
Meanwhile, I can shoot AND afford groceries (for now anyway).
Go with a dead blow buffer weight in the 6+ oz. range. It’s even better than a hydrolic and they are half the cost. Maybe $75? Helps seat the round so you don’t have an out of battery discharge too.
I’m a big B&T fan but I just don’t understand the reasoning behind a 16″ PCC if you have to have a 16″ go with 5.56 or 7.62.
16″ barrel length typically adds +10% (give or take) muzzle velocity to handgun rounds, compared to 5″ test barrels. Sometimes more. For example, a .357 Mag shot from a 16″ carbine has almost the same muzzle energy as a .44 Mag shot from a 6″ barrel, according to ballistic test charts.
16″ *is* a bit long for my taste, though. I’d be happy with a 10″.
Sadly optimized barrel lengths run into legal issues depending on federal and state laws based on setup.
It seems to me that there’s exactly one reason for this model: NFA
I wondered how a 9mm performs from a 16″ barrel. Ballistics By The Inch to the rescue…seems to average about 100 – 150 fps more than the 4″ – 5″ velocities for my preferred 124 gr.
I hope they sell oodles of them.
However…as for me, at $2,600 it’s not my cup of tea (that $$ represents a lot of practice ammo).
That’s about right, although in the testing I did with handloads from a 4″ to a 16″ barrel, I saw 180 and 200fps increase in the two loads I tested in each. I’ll second any positive comments on the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm. I just put the Magpul Backpacker stock on it and love it!
In comparison to a .357 magnum, I’m seeing a 590 fps increase from a 4″ revolver to a 18.5″ carbine at the 125 grain level, trending steadily down to a 340 fps increase at the 190 grain level. However, that’s average of all tests by bullet weight (regardless of load) in those two, and not a “load for load” comparison since I have much more data for those!
It depends HEAVILY on the loading. I saw significantly more gains using Blue Dot than Titegroup and 135gr cast powder coated bullets. The reason is simply that Titegroup is a fast power and Blue Dot is about as slow as you’ll get in a 9mm.
Absolutely! I was using BE-86 (a tiny bit slower than Unique and meters well) with jacketed for the 200fps gain, and W231 with coated cast for the 180fps gain. I’ve never played with Blue Dot in the 9mm (although that’s the one I’d go with if I was really going for a carbine-only load!) but love it in the .357 for 140/158gr out of a 4″ revolver.
Also I’ve had really good luck using Blue Dot for ~2500fps loads in .223 and .22-250 (although you have to be *darn* sure you don’t double-charge it!)
“Those in search of a premium home defense solution would be well served by this very lightweight, well balanced and incredibly easy to shoot well platform…”
That would be far more accurate if they offered that carbine in .40 S&W or even better yet 10mm Auto.
Now, if they offered it chambered in .357 Magnum, that would be a seriously hard-hitting platform and absolutely IDEAL for home defense. Pro-tip: stout .357 Magnum loads out of a 16-inch barrel launches 125 grain bullets at 2,100 feet-per-second! That is 1,224 foot-pounds energy at the muzzle which is 7.62x39mm territory.
I looked for a 357 lever action for years for exactly this reason (and wanting to see what underwood +p could do) but could never find one available at the time.
I’ll vouch for the Rossi Model 92. Cheap but it takes a looong break in period but after that, really smooth. Also, accurate as hell! Out of all my firearms, this is the one I am most accurate with even though I have the least practice time with it owing to the expense of .357 or even 38 sp ammo.
Could always throw down with the .350 Legend. I’ve been eyeballing it if only to get brass to make wildcats from.
I’d much rather have that than this. about 1000FPS more velcoity and 1000 more dollars in one’s pocket.
Andrew Lias,
Oh, now that is interesting–all the benefits of a .35 caliber bullet and a straight-wall rimless cartridge with a significant boost in muzzle velocity (over stout .357 Magnum loads) to boot.
Heck, it would still perform exceptionally as a home-defense carbine even with significantly loaded down cartridges.
Okay, who is going to make AR spec. magazines for .350 Legend and an appropriate AR spec. upper receiver, bolt, and barrel?
I researched .350 Legend after I posted my comment above. Turns out that the .350 Legend case has the same base diameter and case overall length as 5.56x45mm NATO. That means standard AR magazines should work and, if I understand correctly, standard AR bolts (for 5.56x45mm NATO) should work with .350 Legend as well.
It sounds like all I would need to make an AR-15 carbine for .350 Legend is a barrel with a chamber sized for .350 Legend. Other than that, I could use a standard AR-15 lower, upper, and bolt carrier group.
Having built a 350L AR before, I know a couple potential feeding issues and how to fix them.
If the upper you use has “M4 feed ramps”, take a file or Dremel and remove that center nib to make a completely smooth feed ramp. The M4-style double ramp is designed to feed necked cartridges, the straight-wall 350L tends to ride on the nib instead, causing it to enter the chamber at too high an angle and potentially jam.
It also helps to shave off a hair or two of material from the lip of the magazine in front of the follower. Since a standard AR mag is designed for necked cartridges, the front of the 350L casing can hit that unmodified lip and potentially jam.
Years ago I bought a 9mm upper for my AR from Yankee Hill Machine for significantly less than B&T’s MSRP, like $800 vs $2625. Recoil is virtually nonexistent anyway, and I still have a “9mm carbine with the same handling characteristics and ergonomics as the AR platform.” Wish I still had the bump stock for it though.
I can see a use case for their tp9, but an AR platform 16 inch 9mm seems like an answer in search of a problem, then I saw the price. Good luck selling that into a cooling market that has plenty enough AR platform choices, at half or less that price. I guess if you have money to burn and a metric cr@p ton of 9mm ammo then this might be a good choice for you.
The question is why NOT get an MP5 at that price point or something else roller locked? I think there’s a roller locked AR9 out now?
I do not think it is a crime to keep a weapon for my protection, so I favor buying such a gun. I appreciate you because you have introduced a new Gun.
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