Cody Wilson’s 3D-printed Liberator alive and well in the Land of Hope and Glory. In fact, an enterprising reporter for the UK’s Mail on Sunday has taken it walkies. Simon Murphy printed out the plastic pistol and schlepped it on a Eurostar journey from London to Paris during rush hour. Seems no one was in a rush to remove the [unfired] single-shot firearm from his grip. Murphy and his mate disassembled the gun for its journey. Neither the UK’s Old Bill nor les flics noticed anything untoward. Murphy reassembled the firearm on board and his pal snapped the historic pics. So, what does all this mean? According to various authorities: human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria! More specifically . . .
Last night, security experts and politicians said they were horrified at the implications of our investigation. Lord West, the former Labour security Minister, called for a review to see how the ‘extremely dangerous’ weapons could be better detected.
But he said he was ‘not surprised’ that Eurostar checks had failed to spot the weapon because they were so hard to detect. He said: ‘What we need is a review of how we can look at these things and how we can discover them more easily. That will take work and it will cost money.
‘These weapons are extremely dangerous because they are very difficult to detect with the methods we normally use. This is going to be a real problem, no doubt about it. People are going to have to rethink whether we need more checks.’
A Eurostar spokeswoman said last night: ‘Eurostar has a high level of security, with a number of checks as specified by the authorities in order to protect the integrity of the Channel Tunnel. We take any issue relating to security very seriously. We will be investigating immediately to fully understand the nature of this issue with our security partner which carries out checks on our behalf at St Pancras. We will also investigate the matter with the Department for Transport, who oversee our security operation, and specify the checks that need to be undertaken.’
Looks like the Liberator hasn’t liberated any thinking in the security sector. Just more of the same, really.
As for Cody Wilson’s idea that a 3D printed pistol will undermine and eventually destroy the UK’s or France’s or the world’s gun control regimes, as the Brits would say, pull the other one it’s got bells on it.
Or not.
What I want to know is, how does it compare dimension wise with a BG380 or Kahr P380?
As has been said before: gun control laws just became irrelevant. They made an excellent choice on caliber as well, since many countries prohibit private possession of military or police caliber weapons. The .380 is legal in almost all of those countries and therefore ammo will be easier to come by.
I disagree, this has changed nothing. There is not a single thing new that this pistol has brought to the table compared to before as far as security goes. You could make a single shot zip gun out of wood just as easily and it would pose the exact same security risk as the liberator. The only thing that has changed is the technology used to make the liberator is new which is why it got any attention in the first place. Of course since the anti’s live in a bubble the little bit of attention is just burting that bubble.
Exactly. This thing is a plastic zip gun. YouTube has plenty of videos showing how to make a zip gun with a few pieces of pipe. No one has yet to make a convincing case to me that this 3D printed contraption is anymore dangerous than what people can already cheaply, easily and discreetly make in their homes now.
It means some Limey bloke feels “empowered” whilst holding his illegal plastic gun on a tram ride, (you can see it in his eyes) in demonstration of the ease with which he does so, while ignoring the fact that numerous squids all about him are likely armed with real steel.
It means there will be wringing of hands and soiling of pantaloons.
It means, now that they can freely print their own, next time Britain is in trouble, we’ll have no need to lend them arms.
And obviously, the Liberator in question was not deployed to its full extent or intent. No photos of French gendarmes in surrender.
Mr Ed has left the barn, too bad Wiiilber. Like was said, when the plastic/composite gets stronger it will be a viable weapon. Right now its everything the grabbers feared about the first “undetectable” Glock. Carbon/carbon or synthetic ruby firing pin anyone,lol, Randy
“common sense” = Obamaspeak for unconstitutional…..
Everyone get ready for more invasive security checks, strip searches, full body scans, etc.
The old ways don’t work, but since that is all we know, the result will be making them more and more draconian. After the shoe bomber everyone had to start removing shoes. How idiotic is that? From the TSA’s perspective, they would probably respond with “well, having people remove shoes has prevented another shoe bomber!”
The new polices to deal with printed guns will be reactive and will start as soon as some dude gets caught on a plane with one of these. Say goodbye to carry-on luggage and hello to massive amounts of radiation going through full body scanners each time you go through a security checkpoint.
“as soon as some dude gets caught on a plane with one of these. ”
Don’t you worry. They will be providing the incident and perp straightaway.
As a nearby resident said, ”It’s really scary. I don’t know what to think. I really think I’m going to be getting a gun to protect myself.”
Just wait ’till he sees how difficult that can be in Kalifornia….
People like him make me glad to write my checks to said pro2A groups…
Gun control laws are a symptom of liberal culture,not the other way round.They’ll just ban 3D printers and criminalize possession of the blueprints along with the end product.
In any instance, I fail to see how this Liberator revolutionizes anything.Why bother making a plastic gun when plenty of the real weapons can be bought on the black market in every gun contol zone on the planet?
It’s easy to make data-driven arguments for stronger gun laws built on statistical evidence; but that levelheaded approach has never been enough.
Maybe if they actually tried a fact based approach, they’d understand why it’s “not enough”.
“It’s easy to make data-driven arguments for NO gun laws built on statistical evidence; but that levelheaded approach has never been enough.”
There, I fixed for the MORON. Wow, they actually believe they use facts.
They do use facts. Some facts, that is – taken out of context and sprinkled with a hundredweight of B.S.
They use facts like a bad guy uses a gun, and should be regarded similarly.
It took me till today to watch the entire video. I found the earplugs essential.
I’m sure it’ll come as no surprise to any of you that I didn’t find him very convincing. He reminded me of guys I’ve known who are self-conscious and insecure but have a tiny bit of the gift o’ the gab. Robert’s questions sounded clear and sure, the answers often didn’t. Please, don’t ask me for specific examples. I’ve already parsed two or three of his prepared videos in detail, listing the lies and twistings.
I realize I’ll be accused of being a racist by some and a close-minded gun control advocate by many others, but I offer this in my defense. After eight whole days, only 21 comments are to be fund. Just about every one a two-thumbs-up, but I can’t help but wonder how many chose not to comment at all rather than display disloyalty to the cause.
I’m glad my mother an I have very similar opinions on “gun sense”. The strange thing though is they developed separately.
I’d be persona-non-grata if I were forced to be background scenery for some politician. Each time I heard something I didn’t like, I’d “unconsciously” grimace and slowly shake my head…
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Here’s the only two 90-10 facts I need for making sensible gun laws, only made possible by Nick aggregating the news facts and research:
1) About 90% of the people in homicides were killed by people with existing criminal records. Only 10% did not have prior criminal records.
2) About 90% of the criminals get their guns do not go through a background check, but only 1% get their guns from a gunshow… the rest get them through family, friends or other “acquaintances”. The remaining percentage did go through a background check, see rule #1.
I know what _I_ would do, what would you do MAIG? Make a progressive proud…
His phrase, “what it is we do” demonstrates they know their agenda inside and out. They actually do have a clear vision of purpose; only they out a mask on it in the public arena.
How about unloaded guns?
She seems rather blase about the whole thing because they have their “rules of the game”. Those rules are in violation of the USC.
If my mother was in town, I would take her and my dad shooting today.
I went to a PO in downtown Philly once, I thought I walked into county jail visitor center. 1 inch thick plexiglass, they had little boxes they would put things into then spin them around for you to get the goods. I asked how they hand over big boxes, they pointed to a door where they would place the package inside a room, then buzz you into it. No contact with the staff at all. And they had an armed guard in the customer area.
Nice big picture of Obama behind the glass on the office side, along with MLK. I was tempted to ask for a page of Ronald Reagan stamps but didn’t want to start a fuss.
The only really good thing about the slanted national news media–and my former employer, Gannett–is that they are all on their deathbeds and gasping for their final collective breaths. What they say is irrelevant to many people these days and how they say it is done with so much incompetence anyone with a trace of intelligence cannot take them seriously. In terms of incompetence, Gannett, Inc., leads the pack–the company’s newspapers are almost universally derided within the journalistic community.
“Telling it like it is” is a noble goal. However, it’s virtually impossible to get the message out to the general public anymore through the big news sources. The corporate news media outlets will always give the last word to the anti-gun position. As an example, the recent findings of how gun use in crimes has declined in the USA over the last two decades has been reported a few times but it’s always glossed over with qualifiers at the end of the story about the number of deaths associated with firearms, etc. Every story that shows firearms use in a positive light gets counterbalanced with a “but” at the end, followed by negative reports.
Moms Demand Action obviously don’t care about taking action to reduce all the types of violence that target kids such as bully and gang beatings, knife slashing, blunt objects (hammers and base ball bats), etc.
In Russia, the cops are so hard they mount the siren inside the vehicle.
I couldn’t help but notice that Baucus is white and little Hiram is (was) black. Does that mean that the Brooklyn wingnuts are playing the race card? Wingnuts and gungrabbers would never do that. Would they?
I bought my Mom a Sig 938 for mother’s day.
I’ve come to the conclusion that liberals hate the Constitution and why this country was founded the way it was, as they see it as a barrier to what they want done. Case in point, the founding fathers wanted limited federal government, yet liberals want it everywhere. Why do you think a liberal never calls themselves a “Patriot”, and it’s pretty much exclusive (sometimes negatively) to Conservative groups?
They hate the fact that senators vote the way their constituency wants, you know, as they’re supposed to, and not “for the country”. We need to to a system where the senators are paid for by their states and not the fed.
And the same parents and school boards will fight like cornered Badgers to keep the Eddie Eagle program out of their schools. Hypocrites.
After Modern Warfare 3 (bought in March 2012, due to being deployed for the previous 6 mo), I swore off Call of Duty titles for good. As a dedicated PC gamer I feel you pain. Picked up Far Cry 3 for SP (still have yet to finish) and just kept playing MoH: Warfighter for my MP fix. Of course I’ve found myself hardly gaming these days… Now it’s just range time and airsoft if I feel a need to have my targets shoot back at me. Then at least I get to field my gear and see if it needs to be moved around. On a side note, I run gas blowback rifles and pistols, provides some good insight into some of my shortcomings.
Awesome!! I, also, lost sleep after watching this flick as a child,,,good times, those.
Nick, check out “Spec Ops: The line” , it’s one of the best shooters I’ve ever played, I’ll add you, check out my review of it on profile.
I have a two year old daughter at home. The day I found out we were having a girl, I went right out and bought her a cricket. Yes, its pink ( I know ). As of now, the only time it comes out of my safe is when I do the twice yearly once over. The 22 ammo is stored in an ammo lock box that only my wife and I have the keys for…….I can’t wait till she’s old enough to go to the range.
The best deer rifle I ever had was a 336 in .35 Remington. Accurate as a bolt action. I really hate to see the QA fall off so bad. Same with Reminton. My 870 broke its ejector the first time I took it hunting.
Never forget the origin of the Karma Sutra… Those Indian chicks were smokin!
Every time I read a review of a J-frame or similar on this website I laugh. The reviewers and all the people that are agree in the comments are a bunch of pansies. I regularly shoot .357 Magnums (carry the 158grn gold dots, but practice with 158grn JSP) out of a 13oz airweight S&W with a 1.875in bbl. What the heck is the big deal? Yeah, if you don’t hold on tight enough, it has the potential to rip up your fingers (I actually had the trigger guard bite into my off hand’s index finger REALLY good on my first outing with the gun) But I can go through 100 rounds without a problem. Does the web of my palm get a little sore? Yeah, but I’m not a 12 year old girl, so I can handle a little soreness, it goes away after a day.
If I’m going to shoot more than 100 or so rounds of it at the range I might go with .38s, but people on here even act like the .38 out of a snubby is excruciating. What the heck?? It’s like a pea shooter with .38s in it and the +p is not much worse. My wife carries a Charter UC Lite in .38. She shoots about 100 +P out of it while I’m shooting my .357 at the range. She has never once cried about it or stopped early from pain! She’s about 5’4″ and if I said her weight she’d kill me probably, but it’s under 130. Her UC Lite is 12oz, an oz lighter than my SW.
As for accuracy, both my S&W and my wife’s much maligned Charter can shoot 2-4″ groups at 7 yards, well within where it needs to be.
What’s the deal?
The women who were almost murdered in LA during the Dorner hunt were not bystanders – they were specifically targeted for assassination. They were the target, not merely standing near it. That fact is something that should not be missed by news pieces and blog entries.
Where is Holly Mclaine from “Die Hard”?