politco.com reports that “U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled Tuesday that the Justice Department’s public disclosures about its response to the so-called “gun walking” controversy [a.k.a., Operation Fast & Furious] undercut Obama’s executive privilege claim.” Translation: that train has left the station. Executive privilege this. Hand over the documents, bub. We’re talking about the docs that . . .
U.S. Attorney General Holder withheld from lawmakers, earning him a contempt of Congress citation. Docs that the President then shielded with a claim of executive privilege — despite claiming that he knew nothing about the ATF’s anti-gun running run-running op. Docs that could reveal the Obama administration created F&F to generate support for a federal “assault weapons” ban. That the President knew about it even before Mexican drug thugs used ATF-enabled firearms to murder U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
But don’t get too excited . . .
“This ruling is not predicated on a finding that the withholding was intended to cloak wrongdoing on the part of government officials or that the withholding itself was improper,” the judge wrote.
Perish the thought! It gets worse . . .
Jackson, an Obama appointee, left open the possibility in her ruling Tuesday that some of the disputed records could still be held back from Congress because they contain sensitive information on law enforcement techniques, implicate foreign policy concerns or discuss matters covered by attorney-client privilege.
The administration could appeal the ruling.
In other words, stand down, truth lovers. This is not the smoking gun you’re looking for. Not yet. And all the main players — including former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and the soon-to-be-former President Barack Obama — are likely to be off the stage before reality bites. Will the truth out? Watch this space.
I can hear the paper shredders running from here.
They probably just purchased one of those gigantic paper shredder trucks with our money after this news hit the press.
By the time the executive branch has to hand over the documents – it will be 10 pages long, neatly bound in a presentation folder. The documents will be generic with no details left in them.
This is the ATF.
They could just launch some teargas in there, and act shocked when the records all catch fire.
That’s right! CS gas grenades and flash bang grenades. They make a great combination. Shoot them in together – when they explode into a brilliant flash of conflagration – the ATF can then look shocked about what happened. Maybe we can get Lon Horiuchi in there to perform some individual word redaction while shooting through a door when he doesn’t know what’s on the other side.
They can just quote Lois Lerner: “Sometimes stuff just happens.”
I dunno, the “buts” or caveats or whatever you referenced are pretty par for the course. Like, of course the admin can appeal. Of course, if certain standards are met, some of the docs may still be shielded. But not by executive privilege, and that’s what is being ruled on here. OTOH–of course, this is all very preliminary, so I agree, there’s no cause to get overly excited just yet.
It’s all emails now. A wise man once told me “put nothing in writing you don’t want read back to you at trial.” Good advice.
At work we have the same saying, but it ends with “… because it probably will”.
“oh you mean you requested those docs?” funny thing….
NOTHING WILL HAPPEN < DIDDLEY SHIT !
LOL even if the documents were the smoking gun, do you think anyone would be indicted or stand trial?
The fact that Hillary is still walking free is all the proof you need that Washington is corrupt and the law does not apply to politicians.
Cruz or Trump might open it up and let the chips fall where they may, but that is a big might. I don’t trust any Democrat and am only willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a few Republicans, since most are Democrat light at best.
Presidential etiquette – you never go after the last guy. Because you don’t want the next guy to come for you.
Richard Nixon lied but nobody died in Watergate.
Hilary Clinton tried to prevent President Nixon from having legal representation at his up coming senate trial. For that she was fired. She was a intern back then. The current government has no integrity.
Now the democrats have gotten hundreds of mexican people murdered.
Glad to see this potato is still being juggled. Here’s to the long shot that someone will get indicted out of it. If Hillary gets elected I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of parties involved getting pardons over this matter. I suspect timing on this actually getting through being too little, too late and as said it’s gonna be redacted heavily too.
some of the disputed records could still be held back from Congress because they contain sensitive information on law enforcement techniques, implicate foreign policy concerns or discuss matters covered by attorney-client privilege
Gungrabbers complaining about the so-called “gun show loophole” should take a look at this and see what a real loophole looks like — the Channel Tunnel is narrower.
Check Hillary’s server.
I am assuming that “techniques” remark is the wording used for grey area equipment like the stingray.
Doesn’t matter what they find. King Coverup has already proven to be above, beside, below and around the back of the law in word and deed and nobody is willing to put their crony position in jeopardy, who has a crony position to defend. Corruption is systemic, not limited to one or the other of the ‘2-party system’ aka the false paradigm we are forced to live within. The real 2-parties are ‘those who get it’ and ‘those who don’t’, not hidden behind (D) or (R) agenda.
The good stuff is long gone. This is just window dressing, as arranged in advance, so Loretta Lynch has political cover.
When was the last time obama paid any attention to a court?
When they favor him.
Bush had operation wide receiver. Obama has fast n furious. Both administrations knew damn well where the guns were going. Holder is the useless sack of skin in this mess. He’d gladly take all our guns and give um to the cartels, then say he’s just picking up where Bush left off. Corrupt pig’s, all of them need a jail cell. Hillary included.
The difference is that Wide Receiver was done with the knowledge and cooperation of the Mexican government. That it failed was another matter.
FaF dumped thousands of weapons into the hands of cartels, and Mexico wasn’t told shit until they were already lost.
Obama’s F&F op and cover up was much worse than Wide Retriever:
I can imagine Obama’s smug voice saying “I AM NOT A CROOK!”
Whuts up beyooch , ain’t bout to go down bro , yo , I is mune to dis shit , bro , go frup yaself . I ain’t even gonna flinch man .
Yes sir. Wide receiver hasn’t costed any border patrol agents lives, that we know of. And Bush didn’t try to piss down our backs, and declare rain in regards to it… Certainly can’t say the same for this hypocritically tyrannical administration, can we.
“Jackson, an Obama appointee, left open the possibility in her ruling Tuesday that some of the disputed records could still be held back from Congress because they contain sensitive information on law enforcement techniques, implicate foreign policy concerns or discuss matters covered by attorney-client privilege.”
Besides the attorney-client privilege, all of the above is of direct concern to the public, as all of the above is directly funded by the public, so why wouldn’t it be allowed to Congress? Aren’t they part of the decision making processing for foreign policy? When a federal agency messes up, don’t they go before a congressional hearing?
Several pundits are openly declaring that the FBI will implode if Hillary, Huma, and crew aren’t indicted…soon. Problem, is , Obama needs Hillary elected POTUS to keep the train rolling.
My goodness, get the popcorn.
Forget it. The documents could literally be the smoking gun Congress was looking for, but the administration did its job. Delay the release long enough until it was out of the news cycle and no one cares anymore.
Like the Obama Crime Syndicate gives a damn about what some judge orders. Need examples? Hillary’s emails, the IRS servers, the first three times they’ve been ordered to turn over Fast and Furious documents.
I thought that the Justice Dept had done a thorough investigation of the Justice Dept and determined that the Justice Dept did nothing wrong.
The Mexican government should be suing the US Federal Government for arming an insurgency. In reality this should be and act of war. The Obama administration should be thrown in jail for violating ATF laws regarding transfer and straw selling.
She just might disappear I’d watch my back if I were her. Too many people are disappearing now.