“Beretta, one of the world’s leading gun manufacturers, will be establishing manufacturing operations in Gallatin, bringing more than 300 jobs to the region,” tennessean.com reports. “The company will invest upwards of $45 million to bring a manufacturing and research and development facility to Middle Tennessee, Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam announced Wednesday morning.” The announcement almost kinda ends months of speculation about the gunmaker’s new home, after Beretta announced its intention to leave Maryland’s anti-gun environment. (You may remember the company’s statement when questioned about the threatened move, immediately after Newtown: “Beretta doesn’t bluff.”) This is, after all, an expansion rather than a relocation. But what’s the bet this is Step 1 in that process . . .
Good for Beretta but they still suck at releasing firearms on time.
Would you rafter they release a substandard product, which you would then criticize as being a useless piece of s*** that needed more time in development?
*Looks down nose* No .404 Jeffery chambering? How plebeianly inelegant…
Good for them.
“The announcement ends months of speculation about the gunmaker’s new home, after Beretta announced its intention to leave Maryland’s anti-gun environment. You may remember the company’s statement when questioned about the move, immediately after Newtown. “Beretta doesn’t bluff.”
Love it. If you want to win a bet, ask someone to name a company that has been in business for nearly 500 years, making the same product, and owned by the same family for that entire period of time.
Answer: Beretta Firearms
From their website: “In 1526 Mastro Bartolomeo Beretta (1490 – 1565/68) of Gardone received 296 ducats as payment for 185 arquebus barrels sold to the Arsenal of Venice. Already in production in the early 1500s, Beretta products were chosen by the highly discriminating Republic of Venice because of their excellence. As the Beretta name became synonymous with uncompromising quality, design, materials, construction and performance, word spread beyond the Italian borders, establishing a tradition that has carried over, uninterrupted, through fifteen generations of Berettas.”
Also, “ducat” or “ducats” wins my non-monetary award for best name for money, ever.
If you’re unfamiliar, it’s not pronounced like the first part of Ducati, the motorcycle. It’s pronounced “duck-et” or “duck-ets.”
I always liked shekels.
Under 18 are legally sorta children so… it’s technically true if false in spirit. That makes it a lot more accurate than most reporting on guns.
It’s fine to pick apart this experiment and the study it refers to, but if that is all that is done we are missing the big picture.
We need to be proactive, not reactive. People by and large aren’t reading the comments to see your clever exposition of a study’s flaws. They are reading the headline, skimming the article and leaving with bad info.
The pro-gun side needs to start flooding the public discourse with studies that are the sort of in depth studies that go down to the level if the individual case to see what factors really are causing gun violence and what isn’t.
We need to start putting the onus on the antis to debunk our research and scholarship.
This will require vast amounts of money and time but it must be done and done now. Going to the court of public opinion and just pointing out the flaws in anti gun studies is not going to carry the day.
Yeah Remington, step up. Time to leave NY. I did it, other businesses have done it, it’s your turn.
I already sold my 870, with Mossberg based in Connecticut I sure as hell will not buy one of their shotguns. Sounds like I need a Beretta.
Would love, love, LOVE to see Colt leave Connecticut (and come to Florida)! Do it. Dooooooooooo it.
Colt is not moving to Florida, they are just expanding here. (Assuming it happens, but that’s looking promising again.) The facility they’ve talked about opening is planned to employ about 80 people. But it’s a start.
Colt is a government contractor. As such, it is not part of the solution. Colt sold out many years ago.
Beautifully said… he put together everything I’ve hedged around and said plain badly when I’m asked.
on the other hand…
Can y’all knock it off! This is 1000 years of blaming Wolves for the actions of wild dogs. This cultural bias is crap. LTC Grossman was right in his essay but as a 31 year sheep dog… YOU CANNOT TURN A SHEEP INTO A SHEEPDOG. Even a Ram will still act like a Ram… and they do, just look at politicians in general… POWER over the herd not the PROTECTION of it. Not they’re fault they don’t know how. No, You find a Wolf that never attacked sheep and turn them into an ally… a sheepdog. Just like our ancestors did… In point of fact, compare the number of attacks by dogs, wild and tame to the number of recorded attacks on humans by wolves. (I know, I know Europe, middle ages and some in WWI- but come on, fresh meat laying everywhere!) Now compare the number of attacks on the sheeple by our societal wild dogs and compare that to attacks by true sheepdogs brought in to the profession the right way. Ain’t happenin’ -so blame mangy, wild, flea-bitten dogs two-legged and four… shoot THEM, I have…
I watched the teasers on the evening news a couple days ago. They are intentionally misleading. Here is why. The two children who picked up the handgun looked like they were three, maybe four years old. When someone tells a young child that something is dangerous, it is an abstract concept and their brains are simply not developed enough to understand. Compounding their failure to teach the preschool children is using a calm explanation or an animated video with singing and dancing such as Eddie Eagle.
The most effective way to teach preschool children that something is dangerous is to demonstrate the danger. Calmly tell a three year old that a small object is dangerous and they will still grab it. Or, stand them 20 feet behind you in low light and shoot a milk jug with a high velocity hollow point bullet (do NOT use flash suppressed powder) and they will have absolutely no interest in ever touching that small object. The painfully loud blast, bright flash, and exploding milk jug conveys the danger in a way that preschoolers have no trouble grasping.
The second most effective way to teach preschool children that something is dangerous is to deliver a highly emotional, distressed, angry/frightened, and LOUD directive as a child proceeds to try and grab a handgun, “Johnny don’t touch that … it is dangerous … do not ever grab a gun unless mom or dad hand it to you!!!!! Of course this requires staging the teaching moment … placing a handgun that you are absolutely certain is unloaded within reach and watching from around a corner. (In order to be absolutely certain that a firearm is unloaded, you must empty the magazine and cycle the action several times and inspect the chamber to be certain that a firearm is not loaded.)
We should create our own experiment and do exactly what I outlined … and show how NONE of the children will pick up a handgun if they find it in a room.
I think your show and tell method is spot on, but mainly for older kids. I’m just not sure that the average 3-4 year old is going to retain the info down the road. Or, if they see the demonstration with your semi-automatic pistol, will they still associate the danger when they see a revolver or shotgun? I think that with the really young ones, keeping things out of their reach is the best approach. We put locks on the cabinets that store the cleaning products and keep medicines out of reach. We should do the same for the guns. Once the kids are old enough to figure out how to get the gun from its hiding place, they are old enough for the safety lecture and demonstration.
Which is one reason this is such a crappy metaphor. It imagines immutable characteristics where they do not exist. Every man who fancies himself a “sheepdog” was at one time a sheep, even if only in childhood. Many “sheepdogs” have turned out to be “wolves”.
Rams do protect the herd. I don’t know what “power” they’re supposed to have over it.
This might just be the push I needed to get a 92 Inox and write Beretta letting them know why I chose NOW to finally do it (besides the fact it is a cool gun!).
If only the rest of the gun makers in CT and NY would follow suit.
I moved to Kansas 10 years ago. Bought a 24″ 7mm Mag barrel for my Encore and those “long” Kansas deer shots. Longest so far was 150 yd. Shot more deer with my Contender Super 14″ in .44 mag. Some of the shots were out to 130 yds. I have no complaints about “short barrel” accuracy(with or without a butt-stock).
A year later and still no follow-up? Leg, what’s the holdup?
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I think the info on this page sums it up quite nicely:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/kids-and-guns-by-the-numbers/
1,337 — The number of American kids under age 18 who died from gunshot wounds in 2010. This is trending down from 1,490 in 2005 and 1,544 in 2000. (CDC)
98 — The number of American kids under age 18 who died from accidental shootings in 2010. This is trending down from 150 deaths in 2000 and 417 deaths in 1990. (CDC)
And they’re focusing on only the accidental shootings…? What about the other 1,239 shootings that were intentional (Gang-related or some sicko that shoots a kid for who-knows-what reason)?
A 1 ounce hollow point slug is pretty damn devastating. I don’t know, but I don’t want to be shot with either.
AR-15: one trigger pull one .22 projectile
Shotgun: one trigger pull fifteen .30 projectiles.
Do the math.
There is something else going on in this case. The prohibited weapon charge sounds to me like he had a firearm with an obliterated serial number. I also suspect, that the guy got hit by the cop and pulled his gun FIRST, unnecessarily!
What is more deadly, a doctor or a lawyer?
Well done I like and if I’m not mistaken I think girl scouts used to have a merit badge for marksmanship. I was never a girl scout, but my sisters were.
I have come to the conclusion that you are about as likely to get shot by a cop as by a perp. I know that the attitude of the police in my area has changed to the point that if they “think” you are armed they shoot first. They might get a slap on the wrist or a few days off and in the worst case fired but you are still dead and they are walking.
“There have been 23 reports of gunshots” … What does that even mean?
It’s a good thing that he’s wearing a dark suit, so you can’t see him wetting his pants.
It’s always amusing to get on a Facebook page, in this case The Girl Scouts, and read all the really ignorant drivel that people decide to pollute the interwebz with….
He’s obviously unaware they make guns in Grand Rapids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVSMg380qA
Can’t even make it through the video folks, what a total load of horse s#$t.
“The Congress of the United States has failed its responsibility to protect us from those dangerous and mentally unstable people. ”
“I sit in our City Commission meeting week after week anxious and frightened because a civilian with a gun is in this chamber.”
“Carrying a gun always, always represents the threat to use that gun to kill or maim another. That, after all, is why these people carry their guns.”
Lighten up Francis.
A church event at a high-school? I smell a church/state separation issue. That said, what’s about to happen to this guy is much, much worse.
This kind of thing is a big problem with all of the gun laws, it makes being human a crime.
Who here can say he/she never left his/her wallet at home and didn’t realize it until at the store?
In this scenario, a licensed carrier could be kidnapped and thrown into a cage (arrested by a cop). For what? Simply for the very human act of forgetting. Of making a small mistake.
Shame on all of you politicians who made these stupid laws and to the law enforcement officers who blindly enforce them.
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As you were.
Never been to a gun shop in my town that doesn’t have concrete pylons in front of the entrance or any door (glass or metal) for that matter. If a thief wants to bull their way through a block wall….then good luck to them.
Though I’ve seen one where you can go through the suite next door and go through the drywall separating the interior wall…
Obviously we all would have preferred a 9mm. However, from a ballistic standpoint people are quick to pick on a 9 as well. Its too easy to complain. Caliber religion takes away from the better characteristics of this gun. 380 auto mixed with a gen4 spring and comfy grip makes a very soft shooter with opportunity for quick follow up shots. Ease of control and durability sold me on this (also bc it is MUCH smaller than my g19) machine even if the caliber isn’t too impressive.
the S&W M&P 15-22. I teach at least 10 people a year how to handle firearms with that gun. My new goal this year is 3 new NRA members (or SAF)