We covered the .22 TCM round when it was first introduced in a handgun by RIA / Armscor, and it kinda made sense. A zippy .22 caliber round coming out of a handgun can be useful, which is why FN likes their funky 5.7 caliber thingers. But after a full year of it being out there, no one else has picked up the round for production in another firearm. I had assumed that the round had simply died a quiet and dignified death, but apparently I was wrong. Now Armscor is about to introduce a bolt action rifle chambered for .22 TCM . . .
Some of you may be drawing a comparison with 300 BLK, another new caliber that some people here (read: me) have become a little enamored with. And while it’s true that both are new, the 300 BLK actually had a legitimate use case and some nifty features to speak for it. This thing, not so much.
Especially out of a bolt action rifle, .22 TCM doesn’t really figure. It makes sense for a handgun, since that cartridge fits nicely in the grip of a 1911, but when you have already made the decision to go with a full length rifle, why handicap yourself with a smaller case length and hard to find caliber? If you’re wanting a zippy smaller rifle round, then .243 Win is what you should be using.
Armscor will be making these available for sale sometime in July, according to their Facebook page. But I expect this caliber to go the way of the EtronX system before then.
Forget about political correctness. As The late Charlton Heston used to say, “political correctness is tyranny with manners.” There is nothing wrong with the term “slave state.”
s soon as dimensions were finalized and pistols were produced I bought one (ok ordered and waited) meanwhile I ordered dies and reamers and made a singleshot rifle… and was IMPRESSED. because of the ctg SHAPE the pressure curve is sweet and develops fantastic accuracy. A characteristic the .22 hornet is noted for, BUT it exceeds the hornet, it shoots up to 75 grain projos very nicely, the hornet, not so much, so that makes this a nice yote gun as well as smaller. And it takes then down HARD. If there were a decent selection of .17 projos I’d even consider trying a wildcat on it, just for fun.
what about an SMG chambered in .22 TCM? I think that would be badass
The TCM might make a good carbine round in say the TNW carbine, That is if the blow back design can handle it. Then you would have a pistol carbine combo all using the same ammo.
A sub 2000 might interesting in 22 TCM.
Why compare the TCM 22 to a 243? The 243 was designed from the start to be a varmint/deer round and killed the 244 that wasn’t capable of using heavier than 85 grain bullets.
The TCM is a 22 mag rifle in a pistol and uses the same bullet Armscor loads in their 22 Mag ammo. I’ve chronographed mine and the 2050 Fps is real. It is faster than the 5.7 and with a heavier bullet from a pistol! The PDW 5.7 might be faster, but has a longer barrel. I reload for mine and ammo is available locally and Cheaper Than Dirt and Midway both carry ammo. http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=TCM0 Ammo Supply Warehouse carries dies 90.99), brass (19.44/100) and bullets (10.00/100) ammo (18.96/50) and mags (40.00).
Why wouldn’t you want a rifle to match your pistol. It’s basically a 22 Hornet. Brass can be easily made from 223 cases, just cut off, anneal and size. You will never be unable to find brass and any .224 bullet will work. I may even work up a heavier cast bullet load for it.
Mine is fantastically accurate. It’s the most accurate handgun I own. And fun? Wow! That huge report and fireball are impressive. Shoot it at sundown and see.
What is it good for? Small game, varmints and just plain fun.
Why compare the TCM 22 to a 243? The 243 was designed from the start to be a varmint/deer round and killed the 244 that wasn’t capable of using heavier than 85 grain bullets.
The TCM is a 22 mag rifle in a pistol and uses the same bullet Armscor loads in their 22 Mag ammo. I’ve chronographed mine and the 2050 Fps is real. It is faster than the 5.7 and with a heavier bullet from a pistol! The PDW 5.7 might be faster, but has a longer barrel. I reload for mine and ammo is available locally and Cheaper Than Dirt and Midway both carry ammo. http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=TCM0 Ammo Supply Warehouse carries dies 90.99), brass (19.44/100) and bullets (10.00/100) ammo (18.96/50) and mags (40.00).
Why wouldn’t you want a rifle to match your pistol. It’s basically a 22 Hornet. Brass can be easily made from 223 cases, just cut off, anneal and size. You will never be unable to find brass and any .224 bullet will work. I may even work up a heavier cast bullet load for it.
Mine is fantastically accurate. It’s the most accurate handgun I own. And fun? Wow! That huge report and fireball are impressive. Shoot it at sundown and see.
What is it good for? Small game, varmints and just plain fun. I fitted a 7.62×25 barrel to mine just because I had one. Para P18 mags work well in mine. If required you can mod them like Armscor did.
I think the attraction here is threefold. First, if you have not tried the 22 tcm in the 1911 – you should – it’s flat out fun. Second, when you get 2800 fps in the rifle with 11 grains or powder vs 3 or 4 times that with a 243, I go with TCM. Third, a pistol/rifle combo that has some zip – 2000 fps with a 5″ barrel! Rifle uses the pistol mag with 17 rounds – not many 243s can do that. The 243 is a great round….. if you only have one gun to play varmint chaser with. Personally I think the 22-250 is better but to each his own. (I am not criticizing the 243 it’s a great round)
The .22 TCM is one awesome cartidge. Go view Gunblast.com’s Youtube video review of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KTvDbWdv0s
The .22 TGM penetrates 14″ of ballistics gel AND it poked a 9mm-sized hole right through a 3/16″ piece of steel (due to its expansion) while a +P 9mm only dented the steel plate and bounced off of it.
Geez! This 17+1 round pistol totally punks both the Kel-Tec .22 Win Mag $480 PMR-30 and the insanely priced $1,300 5.7 x 28 FNH Five Seven. Ammo is 50 cents a round, but you can always do a quick flip to 9mm.
The 1911 in .22 TCM with a 7lb recoil spring is the easiest slide to rack in the world! A bunch of these were handed out to SWAT members, and they interviewed a few of them.
Oner of them made a comment that I’m going to “frame” – as in tweet it in a Vine video and post it on Glock’s FaceBook page. TRhe SWAT guy says, and I quote “I like this better than my Glock that always chews up my hands”
I LOVE IT!