Armed Equality Slams LGBT Groups for Supporting California’s ‘Large Capacity’ Magazine Ban

Last month, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down California’s “large capacity” magazine ban. It was a huge victory for gun rights advocates and a perfect illustration that elections really do have consequences.

As predicted, and like clockwork, California’s Attorney General, Xavier Becerra, filed a motion with the court for an en banc review of the panel’s ruling. That move was made both in the hopes that a review by the full Ninth Circuit will go the other way and to delay for as long as possible the day when standard capacity magazines can once again be sold in the Golden State.

Among the many groups that have filed amicus briefs urging the Ninth to grant an en banc review of the ruling — along with the cities of San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles, San Diego and gun control operations like Everytown, Brady and Giffords — were three LGBT groups; Pride Fund to End Gun Violence, Equality California, and Gays Against Guns.

In their brief, the three organizations argue that gun violence “disproportionately affects amici’s members and the communities they serve.” They claim that if the three-judge panel’s ruling is allowed to stand, lifting the ban on standard capacity magazines “would put the LGBT community at elevated risk of injury and death.”

Not every LGBT group agrees. One of which, California-based Armed Equality, filed its own brief in the case asking the court to let the ruling stand so that all armed individuals — regardless of orientation or gender — will have at their disposal all of the tools that are best suited to defend themselves and their families.

What’s more, Armed Equality has a few choice words for the three groups that are working so hard to keep LGBT people disarmed and vulnerable to the attacks they say are so often directed their way. Here’s Armed Equality’s open letter, originally published on their Facebook page and reprinted here with permission:

Dear, Pride Fund to End Gun Violence, Equality California, and Gays Against Guns Los Angeles (yes GAG…),

On behalf of the millions of responsibly well-armed LGBTQ Americans in this country, f**k you.

You don’t speak for us.

You don’t speak for LGBTQ activism.

You don’t speak for LGBTQ activists.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Stop trying to criminalize responsibly well-armed LGBTQ Americans in this country. We reject you and your weak, useless, counterproductive, nonsensical arguments.

We are proud to support the California Rifle and Pistol Association, Firearms Policy Coalition, and the Second Amendment Foundation in opposing the ridiculous, unconstitutional, and immoral criminalization of the tools we carry daily to effectively protect our at-risk lives and our at-risk community.

We are proud to have worked with the Firearms Policy Coalition in submitting our own amicus brief in opposition to the criminalization of STANDARD capacity magazines.

Your pathetic and deplorable attempt to use the Pulse Nightclub massacre to push your astroturfed anti-civil rights agenda is as nauseating as it is inaccurate.

We couldn’t help but notice you failing to mention in your brief how law enforcement waited outside for approximately 2+ hours before entering the building. They protected themselves above all else and left us on our own.

We know that it’s up to us to protect ourselves in the initial moments of an active threat.

We know that there are more firearms in the US than there are human beings.

Our daily carry is a radical act of love for our community, for those we love, and for ourselves, because WE KNOW OUR LIVES ARE WORTH DEFENDING WITH FORCE IF NEEDED.

We understand that Armed Equality is REAL equality.

Sincerely,
Armed Equality®
National Pro Self Defense LGBT Civil Rights Group

comments

  1. avatar Sam I Am says:

    Bravo !!

  2. avatar John in FL says:

    That’s LGBTQ+
    PLUS!
    How can you forget the PLUS?
    Racists…

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      Because you got lost between the LGB and the LGBTQQIDAAPPO2SBNBGNCGGAPPO+?

      (I didn’t make up that second acronym.)

      1. avatar John in FL says:

        You look that up, or got it memorized?

        1. avatar Geoff "Ammo. LOTS of ammo..." PR says:

          It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he did.

          Strych has an uncanny ability to recall arcane information he’s read or heard years ago…

        2. avatar strych9 says:

          In this particular case I looked it up after I typed it in so that I could verify that I didn’t fuck up the SBN-BGN because I have a habit of reversing the S and the B on the second set of three letters which is common for me when it’s a long-ass string of some idiotic garbage that I almost never use.

          I tend to make a similar mistake with the I when using Accusative and Dative cases in the singular 4th declension of Latin nouns… but that’s a whole other story that no one, other than me, cares about.

        3. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “but that’s a whole other story that no one, other than me, cares about.”

          I care about it, but would understand nothing. Gibberish is my first language. English is a challenge.

        4. avatar gus says:

          he didn’t have to look it up. he’s got it on speed dial.

        5. avatar strych9 says:

          “Gibberish is my first language. English is a challenge.”

          LOL there’s a whole lesson here about how xe/xym/xyr is actually super insulting to the T portion of the LGBTQ community because it turns them into non-humans through use of a neuter pronoun which has specific meanings in English… but that’s an advanced lesson in “making Lefty heads explode”.

      2. avatar Steven says:

        gibberish is the ONLY language of too many people that believe they speak English.

    2. avatar Craig in IA says:

      “That’s LGBTQ+”

      Yep, my T-shirt says Liberty, Guns, Beer, Trump, BBQ. All for ’em.

  3. avatar Mark N. says:

    When will the Pink Pistols weigh in? They really should.

    1. avatar MrBob says:

      That’s what I was thinking.

    2. avatar Ian in Transit says:

      They submitted their own amicus brief as well. You can go to the Operation Blazing sword website for more details. The two organizations share management these days.

    3. avatar Erin Palette says:

      Mark N. ,

      Our brief was submitted in conjunction with the National African American Gun Association. You can find it here: https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/2019-09-20-Amicus-Brief-of-National-African-American-Gun-Assoc.-Pink-Pistols-ISO-Appellees.pdf

      Furthermore, our AC brief was quoted in the final decision. You can read it on p.39 of the PDF here: https://dl.airtable.com/.attachments/6d809a9cc6fddb883f29559e63a83234/94d604dc/DuncanvBecerraOpinion.pdf

      Signed,
      Erin Palette
      President of Operation Blazing Sword and National Director of the Pink Pistols

      1. avatar Paul says:

        Pink Pistols and NAAGA. It’s nice seeing so many minority-oriented civil rights groups that focus on 2A rights all of a sudden, working together to help secure those rights. Also bucking preconceptions of what people in those demographics are supposed to be thinking.

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Also bucking preconceptions of what people in those demographics are supposed to be thinking.”

          Nope. They are buying guns to protect themselves from a specific threat….you. Once all the alt-right, conservative, bible-thumping, self-reliant, gun loving, deplorables are disarmed there will be no need for anyone to have a gun. For Leftists, owning a gun is a situational, conditional, affair, not one of principle.

      2. avatar Based Kyle says:

        We don’t need or want degenerates like you fighting for our cause.

        Bring back the institutions. Lock the LGBBQ people up where they belong and throw away the key!

        1. avatar Erin Palette says:

          Aww, it’s so cute when the anti-gun trolls try to masquerade as one of us!

  4. avatar Shire-man says:

    Any special interest group for a minority, oppressed or otherwise disenfranchised people that advocates for disarmament has to be fake.

    1. avatar Eric Swalwell says:

      As a privileged straight white liberal who grew up in the sheltered lap of luxury, as a California lawyer, as a college graduate, and as a Democrat in the House of Representatives, I think I’m in a position to speak as an authority on behalf of women, people of color, and the LGBTQ community. So, trust me when I say: if you so-called “gay gun rights groups” are voting against the Democrat agenda, then you aint gay.

      Eric Swalwell 2020

  5. avatar former water walker says:

    Well good for them…Pulse was Islamic terrorism. Achmed picked an ez target. One wonder’s if Armed Equality folks will continue to vote Dim?(sorry if I ASSumed too much) Yeah I’d love to hear Pink Pistols weigh in.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “One wonder’s if Armed Equality folks will continue to vote Dim?”

      Of course they will. They don’t own guns to protect themselves from Dims, Antifa, etc. They own guns to protect themselves from dangerous, unhinged, crazy alt-right, right wing, Trump cult, conservative, radical deplorables. When the deplorables are disarmed, Gay Nation will not need guns for protection from each other, or just common street criminals; government will do that.

    2. avatar John Parker says:

      If you think the thousands of AE group members all vote the same way…

      You’re wrong.

      1. avatar Based Kyle says:

        You’re awfully dense if you consider these LGBTBBQ types of any stripe to be little more than heat of the moment fair weather allies.

        They’re just looney toon leftists pretending to care about your rights.

        I miss the days when we tossed people like them into a mental institution. America was a better place to grow up and raise a family. No degenerates. No red guard. No BLM.

  6. avatar Debbie W. says:

    Gun Control is discrimination. When the day comes Gun Control is seen for what it is is the day Gun Control crawls back under the rock from which it came.

    1. avatar MockingBird48 says:

      Gun control doesn’t discriminate, it targets all people, regardless of Gender, Sexual Orientation, Sexual preference, political affiliation, and well… anything, and everything, it’s all bad, every last one, that’s why as Americans, we should stop yelling at each other from the other side of our fences, and work together to stop all this infringing crap! We NEED to pay attention to everything, and anything that would strip us if our rights, come on sheep people wake the hell up, and smell the infringements!

      1. avatar Dude says:

        It doesn’t affect the wealthy and well connected.

  7. avatar Durrrrrr says:

    A gun rights organization for gays?!?! Geoff PR rejoice!

    1. avatar Geoff "Ammo. LOTS of ammo..." PR says:

      You seem to have a strange obsession with my sexuality.

      I already told you, I’m never going go out with you, much less screw you.

      Consider it an excellent opportunity for you to work on your (non-existent) coping skills… 🙂

      1. avatar Southern Cross says:

        But Link in solitary thinks Durrr is cute.

      2. avatar possum says:

        I’d screw him if I could. Did I mention I have Sail Boat fuel for sale, U knn buy the whole barrel for 350

        1. avatar possum says:

          Also here’s a picture of my hot sexy girlfriend/boyfriend(????) , just slip a hundred under the door and you’ll get Fcked

        2. avatar jwm says:

          Sail boat fuel? A whole barrel? Never worry about being becalmed again.

          Damn, you are one bright marsupial.

          And oh, yes. Possums gotz sailzboatz? Shudder.

        3. avatar RidgeRunner says:

          Real Possum

  8. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Good!!! Very Good!!!
    (smile)
    Now every LGBTQxyz gun owner, at least the ones who have some guts, You need to open carry at the next pride parade. Or organize an event in an open carry state. Before the next election. You need to “come out of the closet”. The world still thinks that all gun owners are heterosexual white Christians, who have sex in the missionary position, with the lights turned out.
    sarc/off

    1. avatar Kal says:

      Most Pride events ban carry, either concealed or open, and will not let you join if you are (and they catch you, that is).

      1. avatar Dude says:

        They can’t ban you from a public space.

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        I can’t help it, I don’t want to, I just cannot help it. So, “What are a bunch of unarmed pansies gonna do about it?”

        You go, this is really good news.

    2. avatar Manse Jolly says:

      Don’t forget ‘Old’.

  9. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    Leftards of a feather,no matter their sexual orentation.

  10. avatar strych9 says:

    Mmmmmm… delicious infighting. How apropos for 2020.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      People keep talking about a second civil war. It’s already here and being fought amongst the left. It’s tearing the democratic party apart.

      They can’t decide to go full communist or full fascist. Maybe even a side of anarchist.

      1. avatar Southern Cross says:

        Once the main event is over, or the actual battle lines are drawn, watch the infighting between the various groups and factions. There must be at least 7 factions in ANTIFA alone with Socialists, Anarchists, Environmentalists, Vegans, and the Rainbow coalition to name but a few.

        1. avatar RidgeRunner says:

          Don’t forget ELF

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        The party is “Democrat”! There is nothing democratic about it.

      3. avatar Paul says:

        Funny how y’all don’t remember the TEA Party battles in the GOP after Obama won. The GOP was desperate to keep them out, but somehow their insane agendas won, and now we have an even more radicalized group of “conservatives” in charge, who basically only care about control and self-enrichment. They don’t give a damn about taxes, and they don’t give a damn about voters.

    2. avatar Geoff "Ammo. LOTS of ammo..." PR says:

      “Mmmmmm… delicious infighting.”

      Not really, have you noticed how the burning and looting has mostly stopped since they realized the public polling was running strongly against them?

      1. avatar jwm says:

        I think Kyle mostly stopped it. Shit got real and they blinked.

        1. avatar John in FL says:

          Wait for it…

        2. avatar Manse Jolly says:

          I have hoped that this would happen and they (rioters) would get the wake up call that being shot dead on some grungy road is final. No do overs, no restarts, this is not a movie.

        3. avatar Dude says:

          But you can die like a dog in the street knowing that your live in girlfriend will rake in hundreds of thousands from sympathy. It could help her and her new boyfriend buy a nice house.

        4. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Does she get to keep the skateboard?

      2. avatar strych9 says:

        I suspect that this is similar to the organized and unorganized militias of 10 U.S. Code § 246.

        The unorganized/semi-organized rioting has stopped but the organized shit hasn’t even started.

        See “Occupy the White House” as an example that’s likely to slide sideways, and also the reports out of TIP and whatnot such as this:

        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bipartisan-washington-insiders-reveal-their-plan-chaos-if-trump-wins-election

        1. avatar Hugh Glass says:

          They’re concerned with Election Day and Inauguration Day, in the end they’ll recognize Decoration Day.

  11. avatar Dog of War says:

    Well… no duh!! For the most part the ‘LGBT movement’ is used for left-wing activism father than ensuing the civil rights of LGBT people. Hell, it’s no uncommon to see the rest of the organized movement turn on an popular LGBT person when they step out of line. Case in point this one transgender woman over on YouTube that I watch by the name of Blare White. She gets viciously attacked constantly by other LGBT activist for not toeing the proverbial line on various political and social issues. It’s gone so far as her being physically assaulted in public for wearing a Trump hat.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      So was Milo attacked as well. And both are supported by conservative christian voters. The Christians and Jews at Breitbart paid for the Milo Bus tour. And Christians prayed with him after the Pulse night club murders. But youtube took that video down.

      1. avatar Dog of War says:

        That is true. To me that’s the most toxic part of the LGBT community and why I refuse to participate in it’s activism. You only count as long as your politics agree with the rest of the activist.

    2. avatar Dude says:

      “Hell, it’s no uncommon to see the rest of the organized movement turn on an popular LGBT person when they step out of line.”

      This is true of any minority type group the Left recruits. All of these groups are nothing more than get out the vote orgs for democrats. Any person that dares to step out of line gets treated worse than the dreaded white straight male (that votes democrat). Notice how they mock Milania’s accent. I thought they loved immigrants? Imagine for second if she was a democrat First Lady. They would adore her! How do they treat Candice Owens? Clarence Thomas? Owens and Thomas are both former democrats. The Left despises these people and treats them like dirt.

  12. avatar GS650G says:

    Voting can be a rather vertical proposition. You want the liberalism and activism but you get the bad as well as the good.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Say what? Who the HELL wants the liberalism and the activism? I want my damn RIGHTS, and I want to be left alone.

  13. avatar Andrew Lias says:

    God made men. Cold made them equal.

    1. avatar Brian says:

      Shrinkage, the great equalizer. 🙂

    2. avatar possum says:

      That’s the best damned thing I’ve heard in awhile. LOL
      👍

  14. avatar tinhats says:

    Yeah, team!!!!!

  15. avatar Ralph says:

    Hey, gay people, stop voting for the [email protected] who are happy to watch you die just so they can make some kind of demented point. Wise up.

  16. avatar Curmudgeon says:

    Interesting fact, lgbt people ARE at a higher risk of being murdered… BY OTHER LGBT PEOPLE.

  17. avatar possum says:

    So the LGBT want gunms but don’t want gunms? Kinda figures if you think about it.

    1. avatar Manse Jolly says:

      `snort` .. yepers, kinda figures.

    2. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Do they generally wish to alter the caliber, or the action, of their gunms, or do they just shoot them the way they were made?

  18. avatar Matt in Oklahoma says:

    There’s not one damn thing a weapon magazine has to do with LGBTQ on either side of the argument. It’s just a magazine and there’s nothing special about them.

  19. avatar Nero "...diction, not grammar..." Wolfe says:

    Politics makes for strange, er, bedfellows, yes indeedy.

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      *snicker*

  20. avatar 1SFGSFC says:

    Sorry. No sympathy for them regardless of gun ownership or not. Tired of being told how to think, how to act, how to speak about evolutionary dead-ends.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Oh, be nice. I’m straight as a string, and an evolutionary dead end, one granddaughter who’s in no hurry, no more on the way ever. World’s overpopulated, so who actually cares?

  21. avatar Redstateredneck says:

    The mentally ill should not possess firearms.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “The mentally ill should not possess firearms.”

      Why? Because it is “just common sense”?

      Sound familiar?

      We like our own “common sense” infringements, but not those of others, because our “common sense” is real “common sense”? Every infringement is an opinion either having, or hoping to have, the power to back it up.

      The only “real” common sense is that which understands “Congress shall make no Law”, and “Shall Not Be Infringed” are clear, pricise, limiting words. The only common sense remaining is to accept the language as written, and find another way to cope with life.

  22. avatar Vidyanand Bapat says:

    2nd Amendment had already guaranteed the protection of right to keep and bear arms.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “2nd Amendment had already guaranteed the protection of right to keep and bear arms.”

      Subject to the level of scrutiny applied by the Supreme Court.

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