“In a press release and Internet video released Feb. 26 (above), Giffords’ group urged Georgians to appeal to the state Senate and Gov. Nathan Deal to defeat the bill,” ajc.com reports. ‘”Georgia lawmakers are now considering passing the most extreme gun bill in America,’ Pia Carusone, the group’s executive director, said in the release. Knowing the many and varied gun measures that exist or are proposed across the nation, could Georgia really be looking at “the most extreme gun bill in America?” We wondered. We decided to run the statement through the Truth-O-Meter.” And guess what the resolutely anti-gun Atlanta Journal Constitution’s politifact.com decided? Well . .
Experts we checked with said there’s no evidence that, if the bill passes, Georgia would be considered to have the most lax gun laws. Four states, Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming, don’t even require a permit to carry a concealed weapon, they said.
Jasperse, the bill’s chief sponsor, said labeling his bill as the nation’s “most extreme” is a typical tactic of groups that survive on fundraising and headline-grabbing. “That’s what they are supposed to do, I guess,” he said.
I don’t know quite how to take that . . .
Georgia’s bill clearly would include a large number of changes, which is a flag-raiser for gun safety advocates.
But there are pitfalls to calling anything the worst, the first or, in this case, the “most extreme.” The biggest being: “Can you prove it?” All we really have is Carusone’s statement that her group is following 200 bills acros the country and hasn’t seen any that have as “many extreme provisions” as Georgia’s. Supporting evidence is lacking.
So they hope for other changes rather than, say, restoration of Americans’ natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms? I rate that totally true.
Two things:
I misread “jetting” as “jerking” when I looked at this the first time. And Wayne LaPierre going to CPAC is a big reason I won’t give money to the NRA.
“Let’s hunt her!”
Really? Do they understand she owns guns and they probably do not? I would love to see them try to hunt her. There are stalking laws against humans and it won’t end well for them.
Video auto-plays. If I had a gun that fired anti-auto-playing-video beams, I would aim it squarely at the internet and never stop pulling the trigger.
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Robert here is a better link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgqbp58_UsM
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/3/georgia-charges-by-national-anti-gun-group-dispelled-about-pro-gun-reform.aspx
I reject the premise that more freedom is “extreme.”
Forget the large cats, they should issue licenses to take out feral cats. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis
Extreme??
I don’t believe the antis know how to tell the truth in any manner.
Use a big word that is all the antis expect to be remembered by the little people out there.
Why did he have his walking cane in the pick-up bed. When I use one, I want it right away, so I keep it up front. It’s too bad this had to happen. Both are somewhat at fault. Was this in daylight, or night? If it was night, I can see why the cop would be apprehensive about the guy pulling something like that out. In any case the guy should have spoken up and I’m getting my cane!
I agree, but I’m left wondering: How did the guy make it back to the truck bed in one piece?
God f’ing dammit!
First .22lr now 7.62x39mm? Guess the universe doesn’t want me to shoot ever again.
It’s just a matter of time before POTUS shuts down trade with Russia, and after that say buh-bye to Russkie ammo. Two birds with one stone — the Russkies and us.
My guess is that POTUS hates us worse.
There’s a mosin with 1 spam can of ammo for sale locally for 200 bucks. Guess I should buy it.
I really had my heart set on a carbine tho.
yeah, whatever the truth of the matter, people are already out there losing their minds over. not going to say that there’s nothing to it… but damn, it’s just going to snowball from here.
I have a SCAR-17 and a Benelli m4 w/ upgraded 7rd tube (9 shots w/ ghost load).
I think I’d grab the m4. I live in an apartment, and I’d be afraid to shoot a 7.62 NATO rd here (yes I know post was talking SCAR-16, but even 5.56 seems like a bad idea in an apartment building). Even a SG w/ buckshot is a bit risky in an apt. building, no?
Plus, living in CA, I’m limited to 10rd mags anyway.
BTW, is there a good compromise load for the shotgun that would have good effect but minimize risk of going through walls and hitting neighbors?
Not really. If something will penetrate deep enough to “end” the threat, then it will penetrate walls and still be deadly.
If your idea of ending the threat is just shooting the guy once, then there are several types of rounds you can use. Breaching rounds come to mind. Hit hard at close range on initial impact. No penetration though.
My thing is, people high on adrenaline sometimes don’t even realize they’ve been shot. And those are completely sober people. You never know how someone is going to react. Unfortunately the only way proven 100% effective to stop the threat, is to end the threat permanently.
On the other hand, if you’re not okay with that ANYTHING is better than just yelling “I called the cops, go away and leave my kids alone.” I gather most people upon being shot with anything (even bird shot or glasser rounds) will probably stop what they’re doing. But the “you can’t count on it” is why I keep high brass lead 0 buck shot in my gun.
Shotgun. While I trust my marksmanship, it wouldn’t trust a 5.56 to not penetrate and hit another house (remember, this is in a suburb), or worse, injure some bystander or little Mrs. Daisy walking her dog at midnight…
The sound of a shotgun charging sticks out more than that of a SCAR. That would be my first warning. Once bad guy #1 reaches the top of the stairs, boom. I don’t much need accuracy at a close range with a shotgun.The loud report of a 12ga is probably going to send the other guy running.
Why the hell aren’t we trying to get this man elected as president?
I would prefer the 5.56 for the simple reason that both have more than enough power to get the job done, but quick accurate follow ups are easier with the rifle and 5.56 breaks up more easily in the walls of your home. 2 confirmed bad guy kills are not enough to make up for 1 negligent homicide of your neighbor.
Somehow I’m not surprised. The headline should have said… “Welcome to the future of Chicago.”
Here it is… hundreds of disarmed, anti-gun Chicago citizens… watching as woman is beaten half to death by perpetrator. The people of Chicago… doing their duty for a violent-free world. Don’t get involved and don’t help. The police will take care of everything…
even thought they weren’t there.Bloody beaten woman runs to school entrance and desperately exclaims, “Please call the police and an ambulance!” Just beyond the glass of the entrance school personnel coldly, expressionlessly reply in a monotone voice, “You can’t come in here for help. Your business is your business and it didn’t happen here. Find someone else to make the call for you. We can’t help you.”
I’m already envisioning an Aldous Huxley-esque “Brave new world” post apocalyptic breed of novel. If someone wrote it… I would buy it.