Dr. Rochelle Walensky
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky (Jim Lo Scalzo/Pool via AP)
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When you’ve totally lost control of the news cycle and you really need to change the subject, call your friends at CNN and tell them you’re putting the Weinstein strategy into effect.

In restarting gun violence research, [CDC Director Dr. Rochelle] Walensky said she wants the CDC to find common ground with gun owners.

“Let’s agree, we don’t want people to die. Let’s just agree there. What can we do to stop people from dying, and what can we do to stop people from being injured,” she said.

Walensky seems careful to avoid the ire of gun rights activists — she doesn’t even like using the word “gun,” preferring the term “firearm.”

“Generally, the word gun, for those who are worried about research in this area, is followed by the word control, and that’s not what I want to do here,” she added. “I’m not here about gun control. I’m here about preventing gun violence and gun death.”

She said she doesn’t want people to think she is trying to take away their guns.

“This is not a conversation about having them or not having them. This is a conversation about how we can make them being here safe,” she said. “The research that we intend to do is going to be squarely about making America safe. Making people safe.”

— Elizabeth Cohen, John Bonifield and Justin Lape in ‘Something has to be done’: After decades of near-silence from the CDC, the agency’s director is speaking up about gun violence

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  1. Just like leftist Nazis. The CDC doesn’t make laws, and has no enforcement power. Don’t stop them from trying. Warning to CDC. DON”T TRY IT.

    • From the CDC’s Flack “Let’s agree, we don’t want people to die. Let’s just agree there. What can we do to stop people from dying”

      How about stop lying about natural immunity. Huge study 700,000 people;

      CONCLUSIONS . This study demonstrated that NATURAL IMMUNITY CONFERS LONGER LASTING AND STRONGER PROTECTION against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.


      • I’m quite pleased when citizens kill in self-defense. Give them free replacement ammo (there’s a crowdfunded project to get behind).

        The injection doesn’t work at all on Delta. The injected die at a higher rate from Delta than those NOT injected. The “vax” have STILL not been properly tested and the long range impact are unknown. The “vax” its self is killing a huge # of recipients. it is killing babies in utero. There has NEVER been a successful vax against a coronavirus and few against any virus (including the CDC’s BS annual infuenza “vax”). The chicom flu is running wild in Israeli and Iceland – both over 90% injected – herd immunity my ass.

        Your silly ass N5 Surgical mask/face diapers are WORTHLESS. If you’re worried go get an N95 or P100 respirator and learn how to wear it – same thing I wrote on this site in Mar 2020.

        • As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC’s website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC’s webpage’s Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021.

          Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%.

      • That natural immunity is obtained by having had an earlier variant of the virus. In other words, if it didn’t kill you the first time around, it isn’t likely to infect you or kill you the second (or third) time around.

      • But you have to get the disease to get the immunity, so what good is that? “Kill me so that no one can kill me!” Good grief. The lack of common sense is baffling.

        • I’m sorry, I was unaware that getting a disease that had a ‘death rate’ of less than 0.016% (of diagnosed and reported cases – and assuming you believe that all deaths attributed to COVID were actually from COVID) was a death sentence. Perhaps you need to take a deep breath and ‘follow the science’, eh???

  2. How many times do these f’ing morons need to “study” guns?

    How f’ing stupid do you need to be not to know that we don’t have a “gun” problem, we have a “criminal” problem?

    • As many times as it takes to get the result they want. Then they’ll stop their studies and conveniently ignore any other studies that contradict that one study that gave them the result they wanted. AKA “settled science.”

    • But studying the criminal problem suggests that you’re willing to come up with a solution to said problem, which they don’t want. They’d rather have a “solution” to the firearm “problem.”

    • I think they need to study fully loaded guns from the muzzle end while pulling the trigger. That would be most beneficial to We The People IMO.

    • Center for DISEASE Control and Prevention.

      What portion of firearm injuries or deaths, intentional, accidental or otherwise, falls under the definition of ANY of those words? Getting shot, for whatever reason, is NOT A DISEASE.
      Shooting people, unless you are a psychopath, does not qualify as a disease, even if we admit it is a mental “condition” (still not a disease).

      That said, what authority does the CDC have to do any investigation on the subject at all?

      • NONE! But that won’t stop these antigun commietards from “studying” guns till they get a “REEEEEEEEEEsult” they like, at which point they will ignore all other studies and call it “settled science” and agitate for a total ban on all privately owned guns!

        Then there will be a sudden epidemic of traumatic lead poisoning as the government ATTEMPTS to seize all the guns!

      • The CDC does have the authority to study “gun violence” from a public health perspective and has been doing so for years. The only thing it is prohibited from doing is proposing gun control measures.

  3. They’re playing pick-up-sticks now searching for the stick that will boost their approval.
    They won’t find it.

  4. “In restarting gun violence research, [CDC Director Dr. Rochelle] Walensky said she wants the CDC to find common ground with gun owners.”

    Well, that’s an easy one!

    If the government(s) stop(s) trying to restrict American’s free access to firearms and other defensive tools that protect the citizenry from them, as well as end attempts to further erode other God-given rights opposed to allowing our elected bodies from becoming rulers rather than servants of The People, then, perhaps Americans with the means to prevent such actions will quit threatening to use those tools against the government.

    Never, in the history of the USA, have the Founder’s original intent of the Second Amendment been more relevant to the very existence of the Republic.

    To those in every level of American government: Live with it!

    • Craig…….This so called research is just another scheme to funnel taxpayer money to Soros groups to do fake studies. I frequently see citizens open carrying and i am not bothered one bit. I spotted a citizen carrying while i was in a checkout line in a WalMart. I passed the time tring to figure out the make and caliber of his pistol.

      • I saw a fella with his family OCing today at WalMart meself,. I did a walk-by to scope his sidearm.

        “Armed, masked man enters store… buys groceries.”

        • Seeing OC at wallyworld is a normal day in D/FW Texas.
          I’m shopping for an HK Mk23 SOCOM holster that will accept a SureFire X400U light/laser on a Lobos Ind rail adapter. Will be OCed. Being 6.1 and 220 lbs makes large handguns a viable carry option.
          Buffalo Bore 185gr 45 Super generates over 700ft/lbs energy out of a Mk 23 5.9″ polygonal barrel, has around DOUBLE expansion (.9 dia), and stops at UNDER 16″ in ballistic gel tests.
          Makes for a “thumping” carry round.
          The shockwave generated in a human torso area hit sends organs into shock/shutdown.
          45 Super is like Norma 10mm on steroids.

  5. This is what happens when the Leftists are allowed to go un-checked. They are so drunk on power and we just wail & clutch our pearls.

  6. My father in law just died from cancer that his doctors didn’t catch early enough. Maybe she should worry about a real health crisis instead “gun violence”. What a《un+.

    • Malpractice kills at least 250,000 Americans every year, doctors are far more dangerous than guns. Sorry for your loss.

  7. biden is the worst president ever. This is just another attempt to distract us from that fact. It could be worse. The Junta in Argentina started a war with England to distract their citizens from their incompetency and we know how that ended.

    Wonder who biden will start a war with? Oh, wait. Us.

    • Not so sure he’ll be around much longer. As the masses (including those who voted for him) increasingly realize the Emperor has no clothes – or memory beyond what flavor pudding he had this morning – support for his authority will continue to decline. This is why we’re seeing other agencies (CDC? ATF?) stepping up and testing the boundaries of their own authority, to move into areas and topics they otherwise wouldn’t normally go.

      Everyone already knows Kamala can’t handle pressure (she can’t even handle an impromptu question from a journalist!), so she cannot be expected to handle the rigors of the Office of the Presidency. After her in the line of succession is 80-something Pelosi, in whom nobody trusts, and everyone perceives as a shrew. So the invocation of the 25th Amendment against Biden doesn’t seem likely, as it would fire up the conservative masses and give Trump the boost needed to secure a 2024 election win. The Dems won’t risk that.

      So, instead, the string-pullers standing in the shadows behind Biden are using agencies.

      • I need to clarify that. I started with “not sure he’ll be around much longer” and ended with “they won’t invoke the 25th”.

        I mean to say I believe Biden will remain in office, but impotent. The Deep State will not risk installing Kamala the Cackler in his place. Agencies will run amok without the presence of strength in the White House.

      • This regime has been a shitshow from the beginning. Unlike budding totalitarians of the past, the court eunuchs in this regime are hopelessly incompetent. The chaos they are unleashing will overwhelm them. They’ll also need to deal with the so-called “unknown unknowns,” like the Cat 4 hurricane that is about to hit New Orleans.

        Shrill leftist women and low testosterone beta males do not a competent government make. None of them have worked a real job in their lives, having gone from the upper middle-class homes of their wealthy parents, to the college bubble, to desk jobs in non-profits or congresscritter campaigns. A 13 year old deer hunter could have come up with a better Afghanistan exit plan. These incompetents will issue conflicting edicts in complete ignorance of the law, step on everyone’s toes, and generally piss every one off, even their supporters.

        My advice is to keep your head low and wait for the collapse of the regime, write checks to GOA and 2AF, buy more guns and ammo, and top off your food supply.

      • They would only get to Pelosi in an emergency, for example, if both Biden and Harris died or were incapacitated at the same time. If Biden is somehow unable to continue and Harris assumes the office of the President, then a new Vice President would be appointed at some point. If Harris were unable to continue, then that person would become President.

        That’s basically how Gerald Ford became President. Spiro Agnew resigned, and Ford was appointed Vice President. He was minority leader of the Republicans in the House at the time and very popular. When Nixon resigned, Ford became President. He appointed Nelson Rockefeller as his Vice President.

        So unless it happened overnight, there’s no reason the Presidency would ever go to Pelosi.

      • They’ll keep Biden eating ice cream until the 2-years-and-a-day when he steps down for health reasons and Kameltoe steps in for the remainder of his term plus 2 of her own.

        If Biden is removed now, Kameltoe only gets the remainder of the current term plus 1 term of her own.

      • Likely Biden is removed or resigns at some point. That will be the point where he’s become a major liability to his own party. He’s already a liability but at a certain point they’ll shitcan the guy and blame it on rapid cognitive decline that was “unforeseeable” (ROFL!).

        But it’s not going to make things better. You can impeach or 25A your way through the entire line of succession and not find anyone competent. What, you think Garland, Buttigieg, or Vilsack are gonna right the ship? Lulz! The political appointees this administration has picked are, mostly, a joke, those that aren’t a joke and might display flashes of competence are entirely down with the current set of policies.

        Like an uncouth dust cover, the message is “You’re Fucked”. This applies to a number of fronts. Get used to it.

        The silver lining is that maybe a big percentage of the public wakes up later this year. Then again, maybe not. At this point there’s not much you can do but chuckle and embrace the suck.

        Personally, I’m hoping for inter-state vaccine passports. Within a month that will do something that would take a year or more of civil unrest or a major war on our soil; literally starve blue cities.

        If we’re gonna burn it all down, we might as well do it right and make sure we level the whole fucking place. I mean, it’s better than deal with mean tweets, amirite?

        • It’s been predictably bad. Polls show that independents have changed their opinion on “harmless” Joe, so I guess that’s a plus. They’re definitely grooming Buttigieg for another run at the nomination some day. He’s smarter and more likeable than Kamala which isn’t saying much.

    • Ever is a very big timeframe. I generally put Harding that the top of the Worst President Ever list. We have had worse, we will have worse in the future.

      That said, even though it saddens me to see such a mess, I am glad he is spending his political clout on something other than more gun control laws.

    • Bill Clinton started a war to distract from his Lewinsky issue. He killed thousands. And American soldiers are still deploying to the former Yugoslavia. And some are still being killed there. But that was a “good Democrat” war.

      • We also still have troops in the Sini, Korea, Japan, Eurp (and Iraq, Syria). But Obiden couldn’t stay in Afganistan another 5days

  8. Yet another tyrant infesting a federal bureaucracy devoted to the concept of making us all safe from ourselves whether we want it or not. God save us from the fools who believe they are saving us from our own foolishness; freedom is messy and wonderful for the soul, but it isn’t safe!

    • Yet another moderation…does God trigger the stupid service TTAG uses? Do I have to spell it G0d? What a mess!

  9. In restarting gun violence research, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky says that she wants the CDC to find common ground with gun owners.

    “Let’s agree, we don’t want people to die. Let’s just agree there. What can we do to stop people from dying, and what can we do to stop people from being injured,” she says.

    Yeah, not. Current affairs are chock-full of folks who need killing. Any rational approach to violence begins with recognizing that we want to stop them from harming the innocent, without further ado. If they die, they die. The rest is commentary.

    • Bullseye.

      Who do _I_ want to die? Anyone who decides to use lethal means to victimize an innocent person. The ideal form of death penalty is for it to be carried out by the intended victim at the time of the attack.

        • Quite right, but we also want the unjust aggressor not to unjustly aggress again in the future. That’s not to say that the only way to accomplish that is by killing, which is rather final.

    • “Let’s agree, we don’t want people to die. Let’s just agree there.”

      “No Lady, you’re wrong!” There are lots of people I want to die horribly, screaming.

      Pedophiles, Rapists, Islamic terrorists, just plain terrorist’s too, hurters of animals (esp dogs)

      It’s not terribly complicated.

      • Consider three first-person accounts of a defensive shooting:

        1. I wanted to kill the unjust aggressor.

        2. I wanted the unjust aggressor not to unjustly aggress again in the future.

        3. I wanted to prevent the unjust aggressor from killing me.

        Only one of these accounts affords a lawful justification for homicide.

  10. I will tell you what you can do in two simple words: arrest criminals.

    That is how to reduce homicides. Around 80% of firearm homicides occur in about 20 well-known jurisdictions controlled by gangs and criminals. They’re shooting each other usually but innocents get in the line of fire all too often. So if you really want an immediate and lasting action which will reduce firearm homicides, arrest criminals.

    • “I will tell you what you can do in two simple words: arrest criminals.”

      Does no good when they are released hours later.

      It should be :

      “I will tell you what you can do in two simple words: incarcerate criminals.”

      And while we’re at it, incarcerate trolls that harass the good people that comment in TTAG… 😉

    • They already know the answer, and it has nothing to do with arresting criminals. They just need their study to legitimize it in the eyes of the sheep. It’s highly scientific, and the sheep love science.

  11. It isn’t a “gun” problem. It is a defective people problem. If we would enforce the enhancement penalties on the books for using a gun in a crime, maybe, just maybe, the shootings will slow down. Using the enhancement as a secondary charge to get a plea bargain is not working. Possession of a gun in a home with criminal activity – I can understand that. Other use of a firearm in a crime means that they anticipate using it. Not good. Guns and drug or alcohol don’t mix well.

  12. Well, it wasn’t the G-word, so I guess going to G0d with a zero won’t be necessary. Some software is truly stupid!

  13. One of the biggest problems the Democrats gave us as a result of Trump Derangement Syndrome is an extreme need to give high powers to people that have no such authority. This is in part why the 2020 election turned into such a mess. It’s also what created a mess in Virginia and in many other places. The CDC does not have the authority to regulate firearms. Why the ATF and Congress would allow such things is part of the problem. But none of these people care about the US Constitution. Atleast until they want to use it to impeach Trump. That’s the only time they care but even with that, following the rule of law doesn’t even matter.

    • Alcoholism is a disease only for the purposes of creating a whole new money making enterprise and giving Alcoholics an excuse to be. If it’s a disease then I can’t help but drink. This coming from someone who would have been considered an Alcoholic at one time, but grew up and decided to live a better life. You can only change if you want to. Real Diseases don’t give you that option.

    • Well, the “medical community” began describing it a “disease” due to the ability to diagnose the condition by looking for a know set of symptoms.
      Then all sense of personal responsibility went out the window and the “disease” term took on “victim” connotations.
      This is just a natural progression when a society begins to use victimhood as a form of currency.

      Edit; agree with DMan 100%.

    • Feinstein’s law is specifically-targeting online gun sales.

      The law we want will expressly *protect* the 2A…

  14. “According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.”

    The CDC should totally start studying ladder-violence. That’s completely within the purview and scope of the Center for DISEASE Control, right?

  15. The Biden administration is so worried about gun violence and women’s rights they armed the Taliban.

    Maybe if the left wants to understand oppression they should move to Afghanistan for a while.

  16. “She said she doesn’t want people to think she is trying to take away their guns.”

    She doesn’t want you to think that, because you might pay attention while she’s trying to *do* that…

  17. Walensky specifically stated she WAS NOT talking about gun confiscation or gun bans but about GUN SAFETY. She said she wanted to discus the subject with gun owners. Do to the paranoia of the Far Far Right mass panic and screaming from the rooftops immediately ensued.

    Until Walensky and gun owners meet jumping to wild and sensational accusations is counterproductive to solving the big , big problem of gun safety in the U.S. I would guess some of what will be discussed is the obscene, outrageous loss of life from gun accidents in the home from loaded guns lying around unattended, losing on average 1,300 children a year from loaded guns laying around the house. not to mention some adults that also get accidentally shot the problem needs to be discussed seriously. No civilized nation puts up with such insanity and their laws reflect their success in their much lower rate of gun accident deaths.

    What else Walensky might have in mind is only open to speculation at this point.

    I image overly complex subjects such as unsafely designed guns may not even be discussed. Hopefully they will but it is remote. Let us hope a miracle happens and they do discuss this.

    Pistols like the unsafe Glock and its multitudes of knock off copy cat designs have caused untold thousands of accidental shootings and deaths both from the unsafe take down systems that require you to pull the trigger with the slide forward as well as their single action type trigger pulls with no manual safety.

    Yes I know technically the Federal Government classifies the Glock as a double action gun which is pure ignorance as pre-loaded striker fired guns are in a separate class all by themselves being neither double action or single action but they mimic the single action mode far more closely than the double action mode because unlike even a highly tuned revolver the trigger on a pre-loaded striker fired gun does not have the long trigger stroke of a revolver in double action mode rather it mimics the revolver in its single action mode setting up an accident waiting to happen and happen it does as many police departments have ditched the Glock because of this or resulted in ridiculous half baked measures like the Glock New York trigger which in my opinion is more window dressing than a sane solution to the problem which would be a government mandated manual safety for all pre-loaded striker fired guns.

    Of course with the horse already out of the barn so to speak requiring companies to recall a million or more pre-loaded striker fired weapons to have manuals safeties put on them seems a little far fetched because gun companies have not the assets the automobile companies have in their endless safety recalls but at least newly made pre-loaded striker fired guns could be required to have this manual safety installed.

    As a matter of fact some of the highly advanced civilized countries have banned Glocks from being imported without a factory installed manual safety which Glock has had for years but never even offered as an option to U.S. customers. I guess Glock feels that since the U.S. is such a big market that loosing a few customers when they accidently kill themselves is an acceptable write off. Strange since other gun companies have offered manuals safeties as an option for years. I bought two deliberately with a manual safety on my HK P30s and HK P30sk and had a custom manual safety installed on my Glock 19. I feel paying a few extra bucks for a manual safety is well worth saving my life but the far right would rather save a penny today and then be buried with that penny tomorrow. I got news for them their families will lift that penny out of the coffin before its buried.

    • Really? Glocks are extremely safe. Don’t pull the trigger and it will not fire. Sounds very safe to me. People training is what is needed. Keep your booger hook off the trigger and there are no problems. Simple.

    • I do not like the glock for the same reason. Recently I cocked the hammer on a single action revolver put it in the holster and said it’s just as safe as a glock. Uh huh just dont pull the trigger. That lasted about five minutes, I’m not carrying a cocked revolver no matter what the trigger pull.
      Safety’s, while I believe do make a gunm safer, but even with a plethora of safety’s their only as safe as the person using the gunm.
      I have one polymer frame pistol. When I carry it its unloaded chamber, I dont carry it that much.

    • People state a lot of things that are outright lies. You’ve said you’re 73. Why should we trust what she says. Especially since a well known neo nazi like yourself is defending her.

    • I’ve carried a Glock 32 off and on for almost ten years (though I prefer a revolver) and never had a problem.

      • And I’m sure you wont and hope you do not have.
        I like hammer fired, we all have our preferences.
        I’ve always thought with a hammer fired gunm if something broke you could always smack it with a field knife or rock or something and get it to fire.

    • Cartoon boy, put a tampon in your vagina and leave carrying firearms to those who know how to do it.

      • Your mechanical aptitude is lower than that of a 1st grader. You just shouted to the world you no more understand how a glock works internally than you know about the inner workings of a guided missile . Your knowledge is zero to both systems, you proved it.

        And you were bragging you taught gun safety. I would not park within 10 miles of your shooting range.

        You huff and puff “I never made a mistake in my life and never will”. Its people like you that should not be allowed to handle a gun as you are not only a danger to yourself but everyone else as well.

        And please leave out the juvenile comments about women. Good lord you are no different than a 9th grader.

    • wow our latest resident dumbass was up before noon ON A SAT. Mommy bring you an early brunch in bed? Stop annoying the adults and do your homework.

  18. Declare it a “Public Health Emergency” and let those dictatorial powers fly. That’s what they’ve been trying to do for ages.

  19. Ok, let’s have a discussion on how and why approximately 75% of black kids don’t have two parents and the implications of that.

    Oh, you don’t want to talk about that.
    Well that tells me you really don’t want to get at one root of the problem.

    Well, see ya later then.

  20. The fastest way to reduce violence is to end the welfare industrial complex. And stop replacing the father with a welfare check. And stop replacing his guns, with the guns of a big city police department.

    • You make a valid point. However you must remember that the welfare state was deliberately and systematically imposed on America in 1964/5 with the passage of LBJ’s “Great Society” laws. One perfect example was the AFDC program, Aid for Families with Dependent Children. The democrats who wrote the rules implementing the laws decreed that if the family had a father, or a man, in the household they got zero aid. The net result is what we see today. The minority, not just black, families are fatherless households raising generation after generation of dependent people. It’s the democrat plantation writ large. Someone once wrote that he who robs Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul. Truth.

      • There is one other part to this. Private church welfare was replaced with government welfare. And any private social ethnic group that helped its members. The various women’s auxiliaries. They were also replaced by with government $$$.

        Defense spending is not our main problem. It’s all the various welfare or assistance spending that is our problem.

        The democrats are like drug dealers. They hand out “free samples” and get voters hooked on them.

        • New “free” samples were sent out in the past 18 months, and we’re already seeing the effects of a lazy workforce that would rather collect their government checks than contribute anything themselves. Meanwhile, the working class gets hit with a massive pay cut in the form of inflation. They’re buying votes which is nothing new. All of the pols do it to some extent.

    • @Chris T n Ky.
      Oh I dont know about ending welfare as a fix.
      I think there would be more violence. Some people have been depending on it so long they wouldn’t know what to do. I’d say most America would really see some riots without welfare.

      • True, but then maybe they wouldn’t be rioting in designer clothing unless they received it as part of their reparations down payment. When money is tight, you learn the difference between wants and needs.

  21. Early life and educationEdit

    Walensky was born Rochelle Paula Bersoff in Peabody, Massachusetts[3] to Edward Bersoff and Carol Bersoff-Bernstein.[4] She was raised in Potomac, Maryland.[5][6]. She is Jewish.

  22. How about requiring that all guns be masked? It would make as much sense as the stupid covid masks.

  23. “Gun violence” must be controlled. We should try a law…..How about God’s “Thou Shalt Not Kill.” Ooops, tried that, didn’t work.
    How about man’s Murder 1; Murder 2; Manslaughter. There that will do it. Ooops, those didn’t work.
    Let’s try 22,000+ laws against the “….shall not be infringed.” of The Second Amendment, and punish good citizens that have done nothing wrong. There, that will surely do it. Ooops, didn’t.
    Well, maybe just one more law from “take them all if I could” FineStain, “Never worked a day in my life” Bolshevik Bernie, Ole Creepy, Sleepy, Senile, Crazy, Fire Two Blasts In The Air Joey, et el, et el..
    Ooops, that ain’t gonna do it either…..because that is not the agenda.
    A politician with a law never stops a bad guy with a gun.
    He only controls the good guys….which is his true agenda. Making good people helpless does not make bad people…..or politicians……harmless.
    “Killing is a matter of will, not weapons.
    You cannot control the act itself
    by passing laws about the means employed.”
    The late Col Jeff Cooper, 1958
    Handgun expert and founder of Gunsite Academy
    Wonder if Walensky’s research will ever indicate that Defective Citizens are the violence root cause rather than inanimate objects. Betting not. They are their voter base…..the Defective Citizens…not the guns.

  24. “We should try a law…..How about God’s “Thou Shalt Not Kill.”

    It’s actually Thou shalt not MURDER”

  25. She and the CDC need to stick to peddling Covid lies.

    Scratch that… they want to put Covid resisters in “quarantine camps”, but not before putting resisters on the DHS “Do not fly” terrorist list… which would allow BATF to go take their guns!

    THEN the CDC can round them up and put them in Death Camps, er, ‘quarantine’ camps!

  26. Actually people MIGHT die….. so apparently we CAN’T agree…. people might die when they commit violent felonies against their fellow MAN…. Or…. people might die if they overthrow a government BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THERE PEOPLE!!!!!!

  27. “Awaiting moderation”……aka we’re turning you in to the local authorities if you say something our overlords don’t like…..
    What a F k n JOKE…… ain’t no TRUTH to be found here…. just MODERATION/ CENSORSHIP

    • “Gun violence” and “Gun death” really? Violence is violence regardless of tool used. Just like dead is dead.

      Focus on solving for violence. Causes, prevention, etc…. Not the object used.

      This is a blatant tell she is anti-rights and anti- freedom. She should be removed from her position. Anyone who works in opposition to the ideals of our country should be barred from public office and government employment as well as receiving any tax dollars.

  28. Only a few years ago and after a previously directed study the CDC determined that firearms are NOT a danger to society. Doing this over and over again until you have a certain leftist turd in office to give you an answer to the contrary is as fraudulent and the elections have been since 2018. The CDC no longer has any credibility anyway.


    University of St. Thomas history professor Yohuru Williams says in the new CNN Films documentary, “The Price of Freedom,” “Throughout our history, the fear that African Americans could have access to firearms and use those firearms to the detriment of Whites is pervasive.”

    Black self-defense
    Understanding this history requires looking back at the social and political pieties that helped to spur the US’s contemporary gun rights movement. Consider how, in the 1960s, fear of the Black Panthers played a role in motivating conservative politicians — and even the NRA — to push for new gun control legislation. The Panthers, formed to challenge police brutality, advocated for Black self-defense via gun ownership and “copwatching.”

    To no one’s surprise, the backlash against this vision of protection was swift. In 1967, in response to the Panthers’ activities, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford Act, named after Republican Assemblyman Don Mulford and which repealed a California law that permitted people to carry loaded firearms in public.

    Of the bill, Reagan said later that it’d “work no hardship on the honest citizen.” This citizen, we can assume, was White.

    “The Mulford Act criminalized the open carry of firearms, and was designed specifically to disenfranchise and to disarm members of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense because they were demonstrating in public — carrying firearms openly to shed a spotlight on police violence against Black and brown people in California,” Harvard University historian Caroline Light says in “The Price of Freedom.”

    “Corporate-gun-lobby-backed politicians, commentators and advertisements openly touted loosened gun laws as ways for white citizens to protect themselves against dark intruders,” Metzl explains. “Meanwhile, black men who attempted to demonstrate their own open-carry rights were attacked and jailed rather than lauded as freedom-loving patriots.”

    It’s the difference between vanquishing the supposed specter of Black criminality — seen in gangs and the weapons associated with them — and protecting the property of White conservatives.

    Or put another way, the hypocrisy around gun ownership in the US is a broadcast of something indisputably fundamental: the country’s struggle to bolster a racial hierarchy.

    • I might add that when Philando Castile was killed the NRA instead of hurrying to condemn the shooting, as it had done when police officers killed White gun owners, the National Rifle Association initially sought refuge in saying nothing.

      As Emory University African American studies professor Carol Anderson writes in her new book, “The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America,” “The NRA broke its silence only after inordinate pressure from African American members led the gun manufacturers’ lobby to issue a tepid statement that the Second Amendment was applicable ‘regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.’

    • So then you’d support a repeal of the Mulford act an passing legislation making CA a shall issue state or even permitless carry. Oh wait no you don’t because your just regurgitating a decades old straw man argument. Wow 2021 and Ronald Regan still lives rent free in democrap heads as their original boogey man

  30. “This is a conversation about how we can make them being here safe,”

    Translation: The CDC is going to start pimping for personalized “smart” gun technology that is expensive, dangerous to the owner/user, and easily defeated by unauthorized users since a gun is essentially a nail with a spring. Of course, government owned guns will be excluded from the requirement. The other policy they’ll push for is mandatory storage laws.

    • ” . . . Address systemic inequality . . . ”

      OK. “Systemic inequality”, the “roots of poverty”, and the “cycle of retaliatory violence” are all either (i) complete, errant male bovine excrement (“systemic inequality”), or (ii) frighteningly obvious, to actually conscious and sentient observers (you are apparently neither).

      How about we lock up feral thugs, and make them serve their entire sentence?

      Being ‘woke’ does not equal being intelligent, or observant, or analytical, or logical – and you are none of the foregoing.

      Just a suggestion – if your interest is in spewing politically correct male bovine excrement, you might want to consider commenting on a different blog. Most of the regulars on here saw through that BS years ago.

      By the way, have you met MinorIQ, enuf, and dacian?? Y’all should get together; you have a lot in common, and I’m sure you’d all get along famously.

      Have a nice day!

  31. Sorry, there’s no medical exception to infringement, else the Brits would have tried that in 1776.

  32. This should be great. An agency that has as part of its mission to help lead in the face of disease….and has totally dropped the ball on interpreting data and science AND LAW on COVID…now wants to ‘study’ getting involved in our gun rights. Gee, what could possibly go wrong here?

  33. 1) It’s not like gun owners actually USE their guns for much. The Democrats stole the presidential election, and no one used their guns. In the Jan 6 Tourists Gone Wild incident, no one even brought guns. The only groups engaged in massive violence are Antifa/BLM, and they aren’t using guns, they use firecrackers, Molotov cocktails (against buildings only) and rocks. They don’t even bother with decent explosives, like the Weather Underground used every day of the year.

    So, ultimately, it’s not like anyone would be able to tell if the government actually went to the trouble of confiscating guns. And why would the government bother? No one is using guns. At this point, gun ownership is cosplay, gun advocates are LARPing, using guns as their ticket to fantasize about how they will be real-life heroes one day.

    2) If they REALLY wanted to stop gun murder, and if gun confiscation actually worked, they would ban all young black men between the ages of 15 and 30 from owning guns. Poof! In a magic moment, 50% of all murders in the US would instantly disappear.

    But they aren’t interested in banning that segment of the population from owning guns, so it’s all LARPing on the CDC director’s part as well. Both sides of this debate are just posturing and virtue signalling. No one is actually going to do anything at all.

  34. The most effective thing that could be done to reduce death by guns is to change that part of black culture that leads to shootings. This would take a massively strong effort by largely prominent and respected black leaders. It would also require white liberals to acknowledge the problem. Unfortunately, those same people would fear being branded as racists for even acknowledging the problem. But things won’t change until they do.

  35. “Let’s agree, we don’t want people to die. Let’s just agree there. What can we do to stop people from dying, and what can we do to stop people from being injured,” she said.

    I disagree. Sometimes gun violence is necessary. That is not a reality that brings pleasure to many people. Nevertheless it is a reality. So no Director, I do not agree.

  36. Firearms are as safe as automobiles or anything else. As long as an untrained, ignorant, or human with evil intent does not control the inanimate object, every one is safe. I work in a gun dealer shop and indoor firing range. The only time I am concerned for my safety is when unsafe humans handle the firearms. This CDC Director is only interested in CONTROL of our lives.

  37. Is she unaware of the CDC study, Commissioned by Obama, that came to the conclusion that Guns save lives. This study lines up with the FBI study and other University studies that came to the same conclusions. As many as 3 million people per year use their firearms in self defense.

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