Damage is seen in the interior of Madison's Wisconsin Family Action headquarters in Madison, Wis., on Sunday, May 8, 2022. The Madison headquarters of the anti-abortion group was vandalized late Saturday or early Sunday, according to an official with the group. (Alex Shur/Wisconsin State Journal via AP)
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By Theresa Inacker and Peter B. Elias

The reaction to the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health Organization has been one of violence and threats of violence by its supporters. Ironically, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot tweeted a “call to arms” on May 9. This is remarkable coming from Chicago’s anti-gun rights Mayor. The political ideologues who are calling for violence and a “call to arms” are the same gun control fanatics who seek to deny Americans the right to armed self-defense.

This presents an imminent question: how will these people react if and when the Supreme Court acknowledges the constitutional right to keep and bear arms in the pending NYSRPA v. Bruen case?

A decision is expected in the Bruen soon, and no later than June. The limited question presented in Bruen is simply this: “Whether the state’s denial of petitioners’ applications for concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violated the Second Amendment.”

Bizarrely, Second Amendment opponents claim that they would be losing their rights if the right to keep and bear arms is formally acknowledged for the purpose of self-defense outside the home. Should we be prepared for the same type of violent (over)reaction from the gun control supporters if the Bruen decision goes in our favor?

In an email to supporters on May 5, 2022, Everytown stated “If the Supreme Court is going to strike down our rights and protections, it will be up to our elected officials to keep us safe.”

What rights are the antis referring to? Their feelings? Not based in reality or fact, they want you to believe they have a right to feel a certain way. Perhaps we should flip the script on them and refer to these imaginary rights as nothing but “ghost rights.”

How does the Dobbs case and the Bruen case interact when the substantive question in one is about the right to abortion and the other is about the right to self-defense outside the home?

In the draft in what appears to be the Dobbs majority opinion, Justice Alito refers to a Second Amendment case, McDonald v. Chicago, to prove the point that enumerated rights contained in the Bill of Rights are applicable to the states via the 14th Amendment, and that the right to abortion is distinguishable, as it is not enumerated. Hence, it becomes a matter to be handled by the states.

Justice Alito wrote in his draft:

“The underlying theory on which this argument rests— that the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause provides substantive, as well as procedural, protection for “liberty”—has long been controversial. But our decisions have held that the Due Process Clause protects two categories of substantive rights. The first consists of rights guaranteed by the first eight amendments. Those amendments originally applied only to the federal government, Barron ex rel. Tiernan v. Mayor of Baltimore, T Pet. 243, 247-251 (1833) (opinion of Marshall, C.J), but this Court has held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment “incorporates” the great majority of those rights and thus makes them equally applicable to the States. See McDonald, 561 U.S, at 763-767 & nn. 12-13. The second category—which is the one in question here—comprises a select list of fundamental rights that are not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.”   See Page 11 Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health Organization (2022)

If you recall, McDonald, applied the seminal Heller case to the States. Both Heller and McDonald will be relevant to any decision in NYSRPA v. Bruen.

Petitioners in Bruen argued to the Supreme Court, and cited McDonald, when they said that “New York prohibits its ordinary law-abiding citizens from carrying a handgun outside the home without a license, and it denies licenses to every citizen who fails to convince the state that he or she has “proper cause” to carry a firearm. In District of Columbia v. Heller, the Court held that the Second Amendment protects “the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation,” 554 U.S. 570, 592 (2008), and in McDonald v. City of Chicago, the Court held that this right “is fully applicable to the States,” 561 U.S. 742, 750 (2010).”

Given the current Dobbs hysteria, we can anticipate a few things the civilian disarmament industry will say if the Court issues a positive ruling in Bruen. Let’s take a look and a few and suggest how we might react.

Gun Grabber Fiction: More children are going to die!
Reality: Perhaps the same people who are currently calling for violence on behalf of abortion rights shouldn’t be making this argument.

Gun Grabber Fiction: There will be an increase in gun violence!
Reality: Why are you only against gun violence? What about other forms of violence? Why haven’t your existing laws been effective? Criminals get guns no matter what the law says. Why are our lives not worth defending against violence? Why are you against law-abiding people defending themselves against violence?

Gun Grabber Fiction: This country will become the Wild West!
Reality: Why isn’t it already the “Wild West” when the majority of the country recognizes the right to carry, either constitutional carry or shall-issue permitting. Besides, who exactly makes this a wild west-esque country – criminals or lawful gun owners?

Gun Grabber Fiction: Accidental shootings will increase!
Reality: Education, not legislation, is the key. Creating fear isn’t a sustainable or effective plan. Make childhood education a priority with programs such as Project ChildSafe, and local level youth training programs.

Gun Grabber Fiction: There won’t be any more gun-free zones!
Reality: There is no such thing as a gun-free zone. There never have been. They’re a fantasy. Ask any criminal.

The usual gun-grabbers are protesting the Constitution itself. At the same time, they are denying our right as clearly articulated in the 27 words of the Second Amendment, they are calling for violence to support a right that’s articulated nowhere in the Constitution.

To the contrary, the petitioners in Bruen, and gun rights advocates are persistently pursuing a formal acknowledgment of the articulated, expressly memorialized right to self-defense in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This is a true and fundamental right. Let us hope the Court recognizes this.

Disdain for the Constitution is at the root of this opposition. There have been violent attacks on pro-life organizations reported after the release of the draft Alito opinion. Does this mean anti-gunners will also become violent if and when, the Second Amendment is recognized by the Court in the Bruen case? Will gun shops and ranges face attacks just as churches have received after the Dobbs draft opinion was leaked?

If anti-gunners don’t like it, all they need to do is change the Constitution. The process is simple and open to everyone. They can utilize the same system that Second Amendment advocates have been using since courts failed to properly apply the plain language of the Constitution and the holdings of Heller and McDonald. Good luck with that.


Theresa Inacker, an attorney and Second Amendment advocate, is a member of the US Supreme Court bar, the New Jersey delegate to The DC Project, and serves as the Communications Director for the Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners.

Peter B. Elias, lifelong firearms enthusiast, career Firefighter/EMT, involved in Second Amendment advocacy in New Jersey for decades.

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  1. The ss/antifa are waiting their orders. We have mobs trying to intimidate the SCOTUS by protesting outside their homes. The fascist left will push this to violence. No more unarmed protests like 1/6.

    We must be ready to Rittenhouse at a moments notice. Anything less is simply aiding the traitors.

    • I agree with you that the time is rapidly approaching for the use of righteous violence. However I recommend that you begin building up a self defense fund. How much did it cost Kyle Rittenhouse to defend himself???
      And we all knew he was an innocent child. But the state still went after him anyway. Did he spend 1 million dollars or two million dollars to defend himself?

    • “The fascist left will push this to violence“

      The ‘fascist’ left will have to go a long way to equal the murder and violence of the ‘pro-life’ movement:

      “March 10, 1993, marked the first-known time in the U.S. that an anti-abortion extremist committed murder. Michael Griffin joined an anti-abortion protest at a reproductive healthcare clinic in Pensacola, Fla., and then fatally shot Dr. David Gunn in the back as the doctor was walking into the clinic.

      Just over a year after Gunn was murdered, Dr. John Britton and Ret. Lt. Col. James Barrett, a volunteer clinic escort and a veteran of World War II and the Korean and Vietnam wars, were gunned down in the parking lot of another Pensacola clinic. Barrett’s wife, who saw her husband and Britton murdered, was shot in the arm.

      In December 1994, an anti-abortion extremist opened fire on two clinics in Massachusetts, killing both clinics’ receptionists—Shannon Lowney and Leanne Nichols—and wounding five others. In 1998, Eric Rudolph, who bombed the Olympic Games, a clinic, and a lesbian and gay bar in Atlanta, detonated a bomb at a clinic in Birmingham, Ala., killing off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson, who served as a security guard at the clinic, and critically injuring a nurse. In 1998, a sniper murdered Dr. Barnett Slepian in front of his family as he was standing in the kitchen of his home in upstate New York.

      On a Sunday at the end of May 2009, Dr. George Tiller was attending services at his church in Wichita, Kan., when anti-abortion extremist Scott Roeder entered the church, raised a gun to Tiller’s forehead and shot him at point-blank range. Tiller had survived being shot in both arms by a different anti-abortion extremist in 1993.

      Most recently, Robert Lewis Dear Jr. traveled to the Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colo., with four SKS rifles, five handguns, two additional rifles, a shotgun, more than 500 rounds of ammunition and propane tanks, intending to wage “war” on the clinic because it offered abortion services. Dear shot at six peo- ple outside the clinic, killing two and injuring three more. He then shot his way into a clinic entrance while 27 healthcare providers, employees, patients and their companions attempted to hide, one of whom was shot during the course of the attack.

      In the approximately five-hour standoff that ensued, Dear turned his weapons on law enforcement, shooting and killing one officer and injuring four more. In total, Dear fired 198 bullets during the attack. According to Dear’s documented interview with the police, he was “happy with what he had done because his actions … ensured that no more abortions would be conducted at the Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado Springs.”

      The murders are, of course, the highest-profile examples of violence against reproductive health providers and clinics, but they alone don’t come close to telling the full story of the unrelenting, daily violence and harassment that anti-abortion extremists visit on providers and clinics. Attempted murder, death threats, stalking, kidnapping, bombings and arson are a routine part of life for providers and clinics.“


      • So pro lifers managed a kill count less than Antifa in 1/10th the time. Much terror such violence, beware right wing death squads.

        • Void I only post because I really like to..

          Cut, cut, cut and paste.

          Cut and paste.

          Even misinformation sites like MRS Magazine are fair game for my high level cut and paste skills.

      • Minor MINER49er Yeah, and? Those attacks were over a period of how many years? Seems you and your Leftist Fascist cohorts did more in the summer of 2020 with your rioting.

      • Gee, MajorStupidity, what a BLOODBATH – six ALLEGED anti-abortion murders in, lessee . . . 49 years. Oh, the humanity!!!

        F*** off, you lying dirtbag. How does 63 MILLION aborted babies grab ya, your Leftist/fascist/eugenicist @$$wipe. You are a disgusting, pathetic excuse for a human being.

    • “No more unarmed protests like 1/6.“

      You can keep repeating the traitors’s disinformation talking points, but the facts have left your fake news far behind:

      “Guns, ammo … even a boat: how Oath Keepers plotted an armed coup
      Unsealed court documents provide the most detailed account to date of the alleged level of planning by far-right militia
      Sergio Olmos
      Fri 14 Jan 2022 11.51 EST
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      The seditious conspiracy charges against the leader of the Oath Keepers militia and 10 others related to the January 6 Capitol attack have revealed an armed plot against American democracy that involved tactical planning and a formidable arsenal of weapons.
      Court documents unsealed on Thursday provide the most detailed account to date of the level of planning by the far-right militia in the assault on the Capitol that was aimed at scuppering the certification of Joe Biden’s election win.
      ‘The Timothy McVeighs are still there’: fears over extremism in US military
      The documents describe the creation of rapid-response teams of armed militia members, the deployment of tactical gear and the stockpiling of weapons in a deliberate attempt to overturn the election of Democrat Joe Biden, who beat Donald Trump.

      The federal indictment alleges Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, a far-right extremist group, conspired with 10 other members to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power. The group stationed armed members on the outskirts of Washington to serve as so-called “quick reaction force” teams. Rhodes has pleaded not guilty to seditious conspiracy charges.
      The Oath Keepers even discussed a naval operation to ferry in guns to the militia. One Oath Keeper, Thomas Caldwell, asked fellow members if anyone had a boat that could handle crossing the Potomac River. “If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp (one near the Pentagon for sure) we could have our Quick Response Team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms,” the documents quoted him as saying.
      Rhodes went on a buying spree in the days leading up to the attack, spending more than $20,000 on guns and equipment for the attack. In December Rhodes bought two pairs of night-vision goggles and a weapons sight for about $7,000 and shipped them to Virginia. In January he spent another $5,000 on a shotgun, scope, magazine, sights, optics, a bipod, a mount, a case of ammunition and gun cleaning supplies. Two days later he spent $6,000 more, and then about $4,500 the next day.

      In group chats the Oath Keepers discussed how their quick reaction force (QRF) teams would set up at the Comfort Inn in Ballston Arlington, Virginia, to “use as its base of operations for January 6, 2021”. They reserved three rooms; one was occupied by the so-called North Carolina “QRF” team while Arizona and Florida “QRF teams” stayed in the two others. They used the hotel rooms to store firearms and ammunition.“


      • People bought guns or discussed buying guns. How many guns were there on 1/6? Seems like they left them in motel rooms if they had them at all.

        We need Nuremberg 2.0. Maybe we will have it during Trumps second term.

        • jwn, it is unfortunate that your ‘soldiers’ and ‘patriots’ wimped out, the Capitol police, metro DC police, as well as federal agencies would’ve solved the problem rapidly.

          As it is I’m looking forward to finding out just who Stuart was conspiring with at the White House, stay tuned!

          And I’m sure that if you had been there it would’ve all been different, right?
          Darn shame you couldn’t make it to the insurrection, I guess you had more pressing personal business.

        • Why would I travel all the way across country for a peaceful protest, miner? Again, there were no guns in the hands of the protesters. You fantasizing about a massacre of the innocents does not change that fact.

          You fascists are all the same. Kill those that disagree.

        • Yeah, jwm, MinorIQ TRIES to sound rational, but wave that red cape in front of him, and he IMMEDIATELY goes full fascist, dons his brown shirt, and starts goose-stepping.

          Scratch a Leftist, find a fascist.

        • Not at all Lamp, you can scratch all you want, I am anti-fascist, and as such I am a proud card carrying Marxist.

          Insurrectionists like you and jwm need to learn obedience to The Revolution. One way or the other.

        • Just matching you Minor now go back and find a storyline that doesn’t have plot holes a Ryder truck can fit though full of shit or not.

        • MinorIQ,

          Your claim to be “anti-fascist” is as laughable as the claim that Antifa is against fascism because their name says so. You are ALL about putting the government in charge of as much as possible, using the power of the rods and the axe to shut down conduct and speech you don’t approve of, etc., etc., etc. Go peddle your pathetic lies somewhere else, dirtbag.

          Oh, and entertain us again with your Leftist/fascist fantasy that Article I, Section 8 authorized universal federal gun control, you pathetic moron.

        • only one drawn was used to murder a protestor…capitol police had standing orders not to use their weapons…

        • So, MinorIQ, in addition to all your OTHER fascism, you’re now into doxxing???? Yeah, that’s ‘on brand’ for you. God only knows what that idiot dacian the stupid would do.

          Your time might be better spent at your circle jerk . . . you contribute NOTHING to these discussions. Go micturate up a cable, MinorIQ.

      • Lol still pretending the fedsurrection is relevant past the kangaroo court stage. Go look into something useful like domestic terrorists at school boards who have the audacity to complain about their kids being groomed for abuse.

        • Further it is all misinformation.

          It’s time you bend the knee.

          We Marxists are your betters, your ruling class, time to accept that.

        • Minor MINER49er Yep, you Marxists are just chock full of misinformation. I’s your specialty.

      • Minor MINOR49er Oh, my! The Guardian. What a wonderful (not) source. Why don’t you wait and see if there are any convictions o on these allegations?

        • “Why don’t you wait and see if there are any convictions o on these allegations?“

          Lamprey, I’m happy to provide the information you requested, here are three American traitors who are now facing sentencing for their self-admitted crime of seditious conspiracy.

          And shortly, they’ll be testifying on the stand against other traitors, providing the details of Donald Trump’s attempt to overthrow the lawful government of the United States of America.

          Stay tuned!

          “Leader of North Carolina Chapter of Oath Keepers Pleads Guilty to Seditious Conspiracy and Obstruction of Congress for Efforts to Stop Transfer of Power Following 2020 Presidential Election

          Defendant is Third Member of Oath Keepers to Plead Guilty to Seditious Conspiracy Charge

          A regional leader of the Oath Keepers pleaded guilty today to seditious conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding for his actions before, during and after the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His and others’ actions sought to stop the transfer of power by disrupting a joint session of the U.S. Congress convened to ascertain and count the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

          William Todd Wilson, 45, of Newton Grove, North Carolina, pleaded guilty in the District of Columbia to seditious conspiracy in connection with the Capitol breach. As part of the plea agreement, Wilson has agreed to cooperate with the government’s ongoing investigation.

          Wilson is the third Oath Keepers member to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges. Joshua James, 34, of Arab, Alabama, pleaded guilty on March 2, 2022. Brian Ulrich, 44, of Guyton, Georgia, pleaded guilty on April 29, 2022.“


        • Minor MINOR49er Seems there are a lot more of the demonstrators still in jail with no convictions. What you have come up with is a few who were intent on sedition.
          But what about the sedition going on right now in front of Supreme Court Justices’ homes for the past week? I guess if you break a law for a Leftist-Socialist cause, that is OK?

        • Jeebus, you moron, you can’t even keep track of who you are “responding” to.

          And, by the way, your evidence that Wilson was even IN the Capital???? And you know how the game is played – the DOJ persecutes some poor SOB until his choices are plead guilty or go bankrupt. Just the kind of tactics a fascist @$$hole like you would approve of. Wait ’til the worm turns this November; folks like you could find yourselves facing the same stark choice. Just like Harry Reid, you’re too stupid to realize that swords have two edges. Gonna stock up on popcorn for the Schiff impeachment trial.

        • “Lol keep posting someone may believe you someday.“

          So you don’t believe the actual press release from the United States DOJ?

          The level of reality denial is breathtaking.

        • Minor MINER49er Does anyone believe anything coming out of the Biden Administration let alone his DOJ? I guess some people are more gullible than others?

        • MajorStupidity,

          “You don’t believe the actual press release from the United States DOJ?” MajorStupidity, I wouldn’t believe Merrick Garland and his fascist stormtroopers if they told me water was wet. Unliike you, I don’t worship the government. It COULD be a flawed, but necessary, minor evil – instead it is a poorly, ineptly run wanna-be Gestapo, intended to protect “Progressivism” and brown shirts like you and dacian the stupid. Now, any other idiot questions you want to ask??

        • So help me to understand, are you contending that the individuals identified in the DOJ press release don’t exist?

          Are you contending they are crisis actors? Is it your position that these individuals weren’t members of the oath keepers?

          Do you have any particular evidence to support your position, anything at all that you could post here as I have done with the DOJ press release to support my view?

          Or are you engaging in Goebbels ‘Big Lie’ strategy, just keep repeating the biggest lie you can and eventually the ‘poorly educated’ will believe it”.

        • I admit the Goebbels “Big Lie” can be quite effective. I have personally deployed it on numerous occasions.

          Although in truth, it becomes easy to effectively employee when the current ruling structure, and their minions in the media, also bases its entire misinformation campaign on the Russia, Russia, Russia “Big Lie”. They continue repeating it and repeating it for years and years and years. Now the ‘poorly educated’ believe Russia is behind every door, lurking in every room.

          It’s like some kind of Mass Hypothesis effects these people who believe the Russia ‘Big Lie’.


        • MinorIQ, you flippin’ nitwit – an accusation is NOT proof. A guilty plea is “proof” only that the person pleading guilty is either unable or unwilling to go to trial. In modern America, that FREQUENTLY means the person lacks the resources to oppose Big Brother. Do these poor SOBs exist? Sure. Did they commit the crimes of which they are accused? I don’t know, AND NEITHER DO YOU. You feel justified because you like to hate on “Right wingers”. That’s OK, sentient people like to hate on and/or mock you.

          Now, do Hunter Biden. How about Adam “I Lie Every Time I Open My Mouth” Schiff. Or Eric “Fangbanger” Swallowswell. Or Nancy Pelosi, she of the insider trading fortune (also applicable to Dianne “I Don’t Remember My Own Name” Feinstein).

          A “justice system” run by your ilk (like Merrick Garland and his merry band of fascists) apparently think being conservative is a crime, accusation equals guilt, and no Dimocrat can do any wrong. Gonna be fun to watch when the shoe is on the other foot.

        • “A guilty plea is “proof” only that the person pleading guilty is either unable or unwilling to go to trial.“

          My friend, a guilty plea is just that, an admission of guilt.

          “When the Government has a strong case, the Government may offer the defendant a plea deal to avoid trial and perhaps reduce his exposure to a more lengthy sentence.

          A defendant may only plead guilty if they actually committed the crime and admits to doing so in open court before the judge. When the defendant admits to the crime, they agree they are guilty and they agree that they may be “sentenced” by the judge presiding over the court — the only person authorized to impose a sentence.”


          These treasonous scalawags conducted an organized insurrection in an attempt to stop the constitutionally mandated certification of our national presidential election. That’s the very definition of sedition, and these men have now turned state’s evidence and will be testifying about their activities along with their co-conspirators.

          The interesting part is just about to start, I look forward to the testimony regarding Oath Keeper Grand Wizard Stewart Rhode’s White House contacts in the days before the attempted coup.

        • Minor MINER49er Please tell me how many people were at the Jan 6th demonstration? now tell me how many people were indicted? And how man convictions?

        • always thought the constitution gave you the right to a speedy trial…not endless incarceration without one….

    • the abortion issue attracts extremists from both sides…who often react violently…the gun issue does not…New Yorkers are simply asking that the freedom afforded most of the country be given to them…

    • Dennis,

      As Mike Tyson said, “Everybody’s got a plan . . . until they get punched in the face.” If dacian the stupid and MinorIQ are representative of the Antifa/BurnLootMurder “warriors”? I have exactly ZERO fear of them.

      I think they’ll hoot, holler, and maybe even riot . . . right up to the point where names start getting taken and @$$es start getting kicked. Then they’ll run away like the little b****es they are. Antifa is great at beating up little old ladies, and jumping people six against one. I suspect that they might be a little less froggy, if they have to square up one on one.

  2. I fully expect that the Left will start burning gun stores to the ground. They will only break into the building in order to spread gasoline and start an arson fire.
    Now the next question is do you have a right to defend your private property???

    • The Left has already been going after Christian bakeries and other Christian businesses for quite some time now. If they cannot use lawfare to destroy your business. I fully expect them to try and burn you out.

      • “I fully expect them to try and burn you out.“

        Perhaps some of the antiabortion terrorists who have firebombed women’s health clinics can share their techniques.

        • Why? You guys burned and looted a bunch of minority owned businesses during your ‘mostly peaceful protests.’

          When it comes to terrorism you fascists are the masters.

        • Hey D3mocrat, how many stores did you loot back in 2020?

          How many cops did you kill while rioting in 2020?

          F**king felon

        • Yeah, MajorStupidity, list for us ALL of the abortion clinics burned, since Roe. Go ahead. How many abortion doctors have been killed? List them.

          F*** right off, MajorStupidity, the ALLEGED violence of the pro-life protestors PALES over the last 50 years PALES in commparison to the tantrums of BurnLootMurder over the last two. You are a brainless, spineless, partisan troll, and deserve even less respect than I afford you. E. S. A. D., MajorStupidity.

        • Like all the southern baptist churches burnt over the last 20 years that outnumber your paltry example?

        • Minor MINER49er You have forgotten how some Leftists firebombed a pro life office? I don’t think you Leftists need any lessons. Molotov Cocktails are an invention of your brethren the Communists.

        • Those “‘mostly peaceful protests” you mention jwm, served the larger cause. To help rid the nation of the Orange Man, who was causing problems for our Marxist revolution.

          Can’t make an omelette without breaking a few… storefronts.

        • Minor MINER49er So you espouse sedition to unseat Donald Trump? Kinda duplicitous isn’t it?

        • “So you espouse sedition to unseat Donald Trump?“

          Wow, y’all are so oblivious, you’ve been taken in by the Fake Miner’s Marxist bs.

          Donald Trump is indeed a seditionist, as is being revealed by the 1/6 committee investigation. And never fear, the Democrats will continue to follow the letter of the law to ensure due process for Donald Trump and his merry band of treasonous co-conspirators.

          For the record, I think that any adult, non-felon, mentally competent person in America should have the right to own firearms.

          I think we should offer firearms education in the classroom at the high school level in public schools, taught by properly accredited teachers who are NRA certified.

          I think that individual should be required to receive both classroom instruction as well as training/proficiency testing on a live fire range, before they are permitted to carry firearms in public spaces.

          While I do believe in my community, I’m no communist.

          And I don’t own a single Richard Marx album.

        • However, in “my community” I am a proud card carrying Marxist.

          And I am VERY proud to see how much our Marxist agenda has been embraced here in the U.S.. From the board rooms of “woke” corporations, to the class rooms teaching CRKT to all levels of education.

          Remember y’all can’t start to early teaching the children the tenets of the illustrious Carl Marx.

        • “Carl Marx“?

          Hey Fake Miner, I know about Minnie, Mannie, Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Gummo and Zeppo Marx but I ain’t never heard tell of Carl Marx, is he some of their country kin?

        • That’s it!

          In a red robe I will lash myself to the steps to the SCOTUS while chanting “My Transgender Body, My Choice” as penance for disrespectfully committing that unholy sacrilege.

          Miner49er has sinned.




    • I’m pretty sure they’ll flee to Canada than mess with people who own and are skilled with guns but seems that ttag has gone down hill letting random boomer fudds who don’t understand how reality works to make their readers into daican tier idiots who believe in everything they say because of other based things they said in the past like come bro

      • The anti-gun crowd has used guns, to murder people in a house of worship. With the expressed purpose of forcing the government, or motivating the government, to enact gun-control.

        They are an irrational and illogical people. They are totally motivated and controlled by their emotions. They are incapable of a calm and rational thinking process.
        Most of the gun-owning community is really oblivious to the absolute threat, that the anti-gun crowd poses not only to their Liberty. But also to the Future of the gun owners children. And to the future of the rest of society as a whole.

        • For once you and I are in agreement. Everything you said is 100% correct.

        • “The anti-gun crowd has used guns, to murder people in a house of worship. With the expressed purpose of forcing the government“

          Interesting. I would like to know more about this, do you have any specific details?

        • to miner49er

          “Interesting. I would like to know more about this, do you have any specific details?”

          The anti-gun crowd is filled with murderers and embezzlers. The list just keeps getting longer and longer with members of the Mayors Against Guns group, going to prison.

          You have a short memory. But I do not. The Australian murderer who flew to New Zealand and shot up a mosque was an atheist like you. He hated religion just like you do.
          He hated gun ownership in the civilian population just like you do.

          So he took guns and killed a lot of people. In his own words to force the government of New Zealand to enact gun-control. And he was successful. Because the government did enact gun-control after he murdered all those people.

          So yes the gun-control crowd is filled with criminals. Who are willing to kill using guns to get their way.

          Now go lookup the Mosque murderers Manifesto. I’m sure you can download it like I did, and read it for yourself.

        • “The Australian murderer who flew to New Zealand“

          First, thanks for the info!

          And I find it hilarious that you had to go halfway around the world to find a single example of your claim.

          I’m sorry to report, but this crazed killer was one of yours.

          “Tarrant, described by Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison as an “extremist, right-wing, violent terrorist”, expressed admiration for other violent white nationalists and his intention to “create an atmosphere of fear” and to “incite violence” against Muslims.”

          Chris, have you read his manifesto?

          “It detailed an anti-immigration, neo-fascist ideology lamenting the supposed decline of European civilisation. While describing himself as a “regular white man”, Tarrant speculated he might get 27 years in prison just like Nelson Mandela and be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.”

          “Responding to his own question “Is there a particular person that radicalised you the most?”, Tarrant wrote: “Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was [US conservative commentator] Candace Owens… Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness.”


        • BTW, “aljazeera”….. I adore using fake news sites.

          I can craft any narrative I like, and there will be some story somewhere that will kinda back it up.

          Damn It Feels Good To Be A ̶G̶a̶n̶g̶s̶t̶a̶ agitprop(er).

      • They broke their promise to us and did not run away to Canada. When Donald Trump was elected. I’m sure they will stay here. And continue to cause as much trouble as they possibly can.

      • Can you please rephrase that in Plain English ?
        Exactly what is your gripe with “Boomer Fudds” ?
        The only things most youths of today can make are Farts, Turds & Texts.

      • those guys are here for click-bait…nothing more… except for Alfred E..who does seem to make a shred of sense on occasion when he does his research…

      • Well, possum, if you look around, you MIGHT be able to find an old telephone modem, and use that. Be a might slow, but cheaper than $55.

        I’d miss the possum posts, however. You liven this place up.

  3. Will they resort to violence?


    If you’re concerned about crazed Leftist Scum ™ (and really, is there any other kind? 🙁 ), you might wish to not give them an excuse to attack by removing 2A stickers on your personal vehicles…

    • Some mean spirited individual may put such stickers on the Biden Harris stickers on others vehicles. Don’t do this even if it may be hilarious.

    • That’s not an excuse though. At all. Don’t back down, no compromising any of your rights. I’m not saying to go looking for trouble, but don’t hide from it, either. When they want some, they know where to find us already.

  4. Well, the premise of this article is correct. The very people who have made an issue out of Jan6, even though they are the ones really at fault for not securing the Capitol and allowing riots to go on in Blue Cities all over the Country are the ones making a call to arms because they don’t like the potential outcome of a Supreme Court Decision.

    I have often said to friends that what we need if things continue to deteriorate in this Country and Democrats cheat once again in November elections, is a Nationally recognized person to issue a call to arms to settle this thing once and for all.

    I for one am tired of people playing the racism card every time someone disagrees with them, violation of Constitutional rights, censorship of free speech, second amendment rights, due process, allowing criminals to go free, etc. The very fabric of our society is being threatened by these people overtly every day. When having fair elections is not possible it is time to act and we don’t have to be nice about it.

    • Thats exactly what we need. A George Washington if you will. Honestly I believe Trump could do it if he were so inclined and decided fuck the consequences to himself it must be done.

      • “Honestly I believe Trump could do it… “

        If there was money in it for him, he might consider the attempt.

        Of course, that would be yet another federal crime that he will be called to answer for.

        • Minor MINER49er How about those federal crimes committed by your Leftist ANTIFA thugs did in the summer of 2020?

    • “Democrats cheat once again in November elections“

      You shouldn’t be sitting on the evidence, OAN network sure could’ve used your help:

      “OAN Walks Back Voter Fraud Claims as Part of Defamation Settlement
      New segment, aired on the conservative network, states two Georgia election workers didn’t engage in voter fraud

      One America News Network is a San Diego-based conservative cable news channel owned by Herring Networks.
      By Omar Abdel-Baqui
      Updated May 10, 2022 4:03 pm ET

      One America News Network walked back previous false claims it made on air about voter fraud in Georgia as part of a settlement with two election workers who sued it for defamation.

      In a segment that aired on the conservative network Monday, an OAN TV presenter citing a Georgia state investigation said election workers Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss “did not engage in ballot fraud or criminal misconduct.”


      Bunch of false ‘patriot’ liars, shame on you.

      • We will make everyone of you false ‘patriot’ liars bend the knee.

        After we removed OANN from AT$T cable, we attempted to bankrupt them with frivolous defamation lawsuits. They choose to bend the knee instead.

        Beautiful isn’t it? Ruby and Wandrea ran the same ballots through the counting machines multiple times, on camera, and we made OANN apologize for covering it.

        Remember you can’t believe your lying eyes.

        • Not worth the trouble, Walter. MajorStupidity, like EVERY other Dimocrat/Leftist/fascist knows damn well that they stole the 2020 election on behalf of their senile idiot of a “President” – you know, (p)Resident LOLEightyoneMillion. They stole it, fair and square, and will do their damndest to steal 2022 and 2024. MajorStupidity KNOWS he’s lying, but the lie serves his narrative, so he does it without shame (I kinda think the boy is beyond shame). He’s a pathetic, Leftist/fascist @$$clown.

        • “The shame belongs to you… “

          Hilarious stuff Walt, do you even look at the links you post?

          The text below is from the Washington Post link you have in your comment:

          “Two Florida men charged with filing ballots in two states in the 2020 presidential election confessed to voter fraud, according to court records.
          Charles F. Barnes and Jay Ketcik, residents of The Villages in Sumter County, Fla., pleaded guilty to casting more than one ballot in the election. Voter fraud is a third-degree felony that can result in a maximum five-year prison sentence.

          Barnes, 64, and Ketcik, 63, will be able to defer prosecution if they abide by the court-ordered requirements that State Attorney Bill Gladson set, according to pretrial intervention documents. The men will avoid further punishment if they complete 50 hours of community service, attend a 12-week adult civics class and meet regularly with a supervising officer, among a handful of other requirements.

          Ketcik, a registered Republican, was among three Central Florida residents who had expressed support for former president Donald Trump before being arrested in December following reports that they cast more than one vote during the 2020 election, according to various Florida news media outlets. Barnes, who has no party affiliation, was arrested in January and faced similar charges. Both men were released from jail after paying a $2,000 bond. Neither man responded to efforts to reach them for comment.“

          Yep, the election security system works, looks like we done caught us a couple 60-something Republicans perpetrating voter fraud in a national election.

          Your third link, the US news site, is broken error 404.

          Your Madison.com link is hilarious, the title is ‘Conservative group claims ballot trafficking in 2020 Wisconsin election but won’t share evidence”.

          More empty claims, with no evidence to support them.

          But thanks for posting, it afforded me the opportunity to point out that the voter fraud is being perpetrated by Republicans, glad to see those two mopes in Florida are now wearing a felony for election cheating.

        • If anything Walt, I would think you would post a link to this site:


          I understand how you missed it, google suppresses the search result.

          Here is where you can Follow the Data;

          Unusual Vote Dumps & Spikes
          The Navarro Report
          Dr. Douglas Frank’s Reports
          Seth Keshel’s Reports & Heat Maps
          Canvassing Overview
          Canvassing: Alarming Results in Multiple States
          Canvassing: Get Involved
          Identify Electoral Fraud Using Trend Analysis
          The Fall of the Bellwether Counties
          The Battle for the Largest Counties
          The Curious Case of the 2020 “Voting Rate” Blowouts
          When Winning Margins Go “Off the Charts”
          How to Predict Election Results Using Registration Data
          The Counties Where Votes and Party Registrations Don’t Align
          Investigating the Large Democrat Vote Increases
          Unlikely Z-Score Values
          Down Ballot Election Analysis
          USEIP’s Election Fraud Data Analytics Guide
          Down Ballot Audit Force
          Draza Smith’s Election Analysis
          NYT Election Data Explorer
          Understanding the NYT Election Data
          Election Data Inquiries

        • Want to dive deeper Walt?

          The American Voter’s Alliance provides a great national overview with many reports, videos and detailed legal submissions.

          Election-Integrity.info provides over 25 thoroughly-researched, scientifically-approached reports.

          The US Election Integrity Plan contains further news, analysis, videos and practical guides to getting involved.

          HereIsTheEvidence.com and ElectionEvidence.com have compiled detailed databases of hundreds of items of election fraud evidence, by state.

          I like to toss a bone every now and then. But these are not Miner endorsed, way to much truth for me.


        • Fake Miner, Help me to understand why out of all those bullshit websites you’ve listed as having election fraud evidence, Sydney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, Lin Wood, et al. didn’t present any of that in court when they had the opportunity 63 times in courtrooms from local through state to federal district and appeals courts to the United States Supreme Court?

          Even Donald Trump‘s own appointee, United States Attorney General William Barr, said Trump’s election fraud claims were “bullshit”:

          “Barr, who was widely considered one of Trump’s closest allies throughout his time in office, said he thought the election fraud claims were “bullsh-t,” according to an interview conducted by ABC News’ Jon Karl that appears in The Atlantic.“

          “My suspicion all along was that there was nothing there,” Barr said, noting he also personally looked into several of Trump’s claims—including supposed “ballot dumps” in Detroit—which he quickly found not to be true.”

          “My attitude was: It was put-up or shut-up time,” Barr said of when he finally came out against Trump. “If there was evidence of fraud, I had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was all bullshit.”

          The article also details the conversation between Trump and Barr that followed his bombshell Associated Press interview. Barr recalled an angry Trump asking: “How the f-ck could you do this to me? Why did you say it?” “You must hate Trump. You must hate Trump,” the ex-president then said, according to Barr’s account.”


          Gee, y’all are dumb… And so easily fooled by a New York City con-man.

        • Miner49er posted on May 13, 2022 At 13:16

          Fake Miner49er replied on May 13, 2022 At 13:31 (with fake news The Atlantic)

          You didn’t read all the links that Miner posted!

          Shame on fake miner.

  5. The leftist Democrats do not care about SCOTUS decisions. Except when it’s what ‘they’ want. They will side step the courts. Trump would be impeached for doing what they do (again).

  6. Now, will the leftists and their law enforcement puppets go after Mr. Lightfoot and all of her toy soldiers for inciting and/or committing insurrection? You know, like they accused Trump and patriotic law abiding citizens of doing?

    • “Now, will the leftists and their law enforcement puppets go after Mr. Lightfoot and all of her toy soldiers for inciting and/or committing insurrection?”

      I see what you did there.

      *snicker*… 😉

  7. “Everytown stated “If the Supreme Court is going to strike down our rights and protections, it will be up to our elected officials to keep us safe.”

    The idea that any of my elected officials could do a decent job of protecting me is ludicrous- for the most part their primary interest is keeping their job and being re-elcted.

    In reality, every individual should do their utmost to provide for their own safety and security. Often times, it means taking measures to protect against organized government usurping rights and liberties and even allowing obvious threats to continue regardless of the written law, as in the current demonstrations outside of SCOTUS residences, or the BLM rioting. I already do a pretty fair job of protecting myself so it won’t be much of a big deal.

  8. Of course they will.
    Today they riot and vandalize saying “my daughter has less freedom today than I had yesterday.”

    Tomorrow they’ll riot and vandalize saying “my daughter has more freedom than I had yesterday.”

  9. Antifools and BurnLootMurder will take advantage of any excuse to be violent. Really, it’s about the violent overthrow of the Constitution, but for the drooling idiots on the Left, burning down some cities would be a fun first step.

    So will there be violence if SCOTUS acts as we hope on gun rights? Sure. Just as there will be violence after November if the Dems are trounced like we all hope.

  10. “Resort to violence?,,,,ehh , We’ll let the BATFE handle that one.”
    Long live King Dribble Cup
    Long live Sir Bettleback

  11. The aborters only fear being beat with a wire hanger.
    The anti gunners know they will be fighting with people that are playing for keeps.
    Carry always stay alert, they are devious bastards.

  12. I’d say probably no, but it’s not impossible. After all, these leftoid freaks think American’s full of fascists. Kind of hard to fight back while at the same time saying you need to take away everyone’s guns.

  13. They’ve been calling for people to arm up in response to the leak in Dobbs, so don’t expect anything to make sense.

    • repealing Roe vs Wade scares the hell out of them…now they’re wondering what comes next…gay marriage?….

  14. Will they protest outside justices homes, yes. will they fire bomb gun stores, No because they know they will get shot in their face.

    • Ross,

      If the Far Left wants to trash gun stores, they will do it in the middle of the night when no one is at the gun store to defend it.

      • This is what NODs are for, they allow for successful killing in the middle of the night……….. just saying.

      • “If the Far Left wants to trash gun stores, they will do it in the middle of the night when no one is at the gun store to defend it.”

        And that’s why the smart gun store owners have large dogs watching their stores at night.

        Nice doggie… {Clamp!} 😉

      • If that’s what it takes to defend my family’s livelihood then so be it. Wouldn’t be the first time standing overwatch on a roof.

      • “Only if you guard your store 24/7.”


        100+ pound dogs made of muscle and sharp teeth…

        • possum,

          Kinda like being attacked by a pack of canine piranhas, eh? My sons refer to Chihuahuas as “puntables” – I think I’d rather face the Chihuahua/piranha crowd than my 105# German Shepherd.

    • they’re most likely going to make it hard to own or operate a gun store…ATF has already started the ball rolling…

  15. Disdain for the Constitution is at the root of this opposition.

    Not really. Far Left supporters have utter disdain for anyone who does not agree with them. The U.S. Constitution just happens to be one of many lightning rods which exposes who the “enemies” of the Far Left are.

    • I like how you worded that. “Borrowing” your phrasing and forwarding to my shooting buddies for their edification.

    • The US Constitution might very well be just one facet of a much larger diamond but that doesn’t change the fact that this is our facet and one that must be fought for.

  16. The stretching of the Fourteenth Amendment to cover everything from privacy to LGBT…. rights is hilarious. This amendment was simply passed to protect the rights of freed slaves, a far cry from the coddled typical upper/middle-class white women out here demonstrating to preserve a SCOTUS decision which had no basis in law and was created out of whole cloth. In its own way Rowe was as ridiculous as Plessey or Dred Scott.

      • I suspected ‘Iron Cat Beast’ and the ‘Marsupial One’ were one and the same… 🙂

        • Nope, Iron Cat Beast was never Ironicatbest.
          Ironicatbest killed himself in Japan because his visa ran out and he had to come back to the rivers of blood in America

        • iron cat beast claimed illinois residency, then skedaddled.
          and not to kansas/ oklahoma (hope that doesn’t earworm a 3dog nite song).

  17. Some leftist anti-gun id10ts will try the firebomb tactic, after that gunshop owners will start sleeping in their store and one of them will open fire on arsonist. In some states that is a justifiable homicide.

  18. Their kind has killed hundreds of millions. They starve and massacre their own countrymen, time and again.

    Will you be shocked?

  19. That’s why I say we have no hope for change except by force. This country has been taken over by corrupt politicians for over 45 years. Everyone one that in government from the past 45 years has baggage. They all need to be put on trial and investigated.i do home work ….. 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐬𝐜𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐤.𝐜𝐨𝐦

  20. LGBTQIA+–era are literally “mentally ill”, they must be prohibited from ever possessing firearms.

    • I caught my Xwife in bed with another woman. She said it wasn’t cheating as long as its same sex.
      weeks later she caught me in bed with a woman, I told her it’s alright because she identifies as a man.

      • My wife and I have an agreement that If our dream hookups were to ever become possible it’s all good to go ahead with it.

        She chose Chris Hemsworth, I chose the babysitter.

      • Was she good with that? I tried the “I identify as a woman today” line, she said clean the house, do the laundry and don’t forget the dishes. Then left with her boyfriend.

      • sounds funny…but it really isn’t…friend of mine had a problem like that..involved a butt-ugly, man-hating Odonnel type who got between him and his wife..she eventually got straightened out by a shrink…who later committed suicide…most of them (shrinks)…need to see one themselves

  21. “What rights are the antis referring to? Their feelings? Not based in reality or fact, they want you to believe they have a right to feel a certain way. Perhaps we should flip the script on them and refer to these imaginary rights as nothing but “ghost rights.”

    I’m old enough to remember a post from a few days back, right here on this very website, featuring the “right not to get shot”.

    Which is a semi-sarcastic way of saying that I do not recommend attempting to “flip” this particular script to “ghost rights” unless you like things that blow up in your face.

    Sally Soccermom is not amenable to your particular argument when offered “the right not to be a victim” or “the right not to be gunned down in school”.

    FFS, pay attention to what the Left does generally and realize that they have the same basic playbook for everything because it tends to work.

    Let’s be really real here. SCOTUS decisions are not a sign that we’re “winning”. That’s a sign that we’re down to the last bullet in the mag and praying it works out in our favor. If we were winning the current set of SCOTUS cases wouldn’t exist. Infringements would be relatively minor and uncommon because they would be, mostly, accidental.

    Reliance on the courts to get what you want on large issues is a sure sign of a weak position with the public.

    We’re not “winning” in the broad context. We’ve been encircled and are trying to push a way out on a few fronts while holding the rest as best we can. That’s the case because the Left controls the culture of huge swaths of the country as well as most of the institutions and the educational system. Yet, anyone who talks of taking the fight to them is ridiculed.

    I’ll say it again:

    When I was in middle and high school people were laughing and joking about Lefty college degrees. “What are you going to DO with that useless Dance Interpretation degree? LOL!”

    The answer was “We’ll take over HR departments, K-12 schools and college administration and enforce our views on you in education and business until we control the administrative state and then we’ll run everything”. An answer that was greeted with incredulous laughter.

    Well, what taking over virtually everything is exactly what they did. That’s why Coke is woke while your kids are taught to hate you, the country and themselves as we turn into a multicultural democracy 3rd rate shithole.

    So, really, who’s laughing now?

    Propaganda. Learn how it works, how to spot it and how to fight it. Or don’t, and pay the consequences. It’s one of your enemy’s main tools and they’ve used it to enormous effect, some of which y’all still don’t seem to see. Trust me, you don’t want to see where this goes. You want to stop it before you find out.

    • I disagree completely. We are in fact doing quite well. We certainly could be doing a lot better than we are. But when half the states have constitutional carry that is a tremendous success. Those that live in red Communist States led by Red communist governors. I’m sure they don’t feel that success.

      The battle for our rights is at a state level. It always was at a state level. Like minded individuals who come together to fight for civil rights can be successful. It will take time. It will take years. The battle will always be here. Because there will always be people who want to take your rights away from you.

      It’s very revealing when someone says that it’s a waste of time to vote and attend meetings. And at the same time they will tell you that taking up arms is also a waste of time. I don’t take those people very seriously. In fact I look at them as undermining my civil rights. And the civil rights of others.

      These are people who would prefer to be distracted by the “bread and circuses” that are provided by the local regime.

      If you’re not motivated enough to seek out others of like mind and work together to improve your a little part of the world??? Then I cannot help you. You have simply chosen to enjoy your slavery.

      I have no problem taking up arms when the time comes. But the time is not yet. There are too many elections that need to be won before that happens.

      • I’m not attempting to minimize what gains have been made, as I said, we are trying to push out on a few fronts.

        But, I’d argue, we’re eschewing the bigger long game for the immediate gains that feel good, a common human practice. In this case, according to the Left themselves, we’re taking the bait and when they talk about how, I can’t disagree.

        Honestly, I don’t care about laws being passed in certain states. While I support it I don’t see it as a good longer-term solution, which we need because we need to solve problems and move on to others. Keeping our attention divided at this point is a major advantage to them and most regular people simply cannot keep up with things along all the fronts the Left is pressing hard on.

        Specifically with regard to the states passing such laws; the legislature cannot bind a future legislature. It is for this reason that the Left plays the game it does. They aim to control enough that those laws are removed and where they can’t do that they’ll use Federal regulation and Federal law interchangeably as the situation necessitates.

        They prefer to change demographics and therefore voting patterns. They do this via cultural control and educational manipulation. So long as they have these things they are in an advantaged position.

        You can see this in Florida’s rejection of textbooks. Major companies have a lot of propaganda in their books. People are suddenly finding objectionable material in red state school districts, and within red school districts themselves. Deeply embedded, it’s not new. It went undetected for a very long time. The analogy would be Stage 3 cancer. You can still win but you better get your shit together right quick.

        IMHO, the Right is currently like a wrestler that’s ended up in a jiu jitsu guy’s guard. He thinks he has to top position and that this is going well. He doesn’t. He’s in enormous danger and all the more so for not knowing it.

        I’ve stated here plainly many times that this website has a significantly above average intelligence for it’s commenting population and that the people here are far better informed than most. I still think this is true, yet I’d lay a hefty wager that no more than 30% of the people here can, without looking it up, tell me what “praxis” is and why it matters.

        Until 80% or more of Conservatives can define, spot and fight praxis and general propaganda in effective ways, we’re not in the advantaged position. We’re in grave danger of being swept and submitted with a quickness.

        I see a lot of opportunities here but I do not see us “winning” at this point in time. Said opportunities would take seizing which would require an understanding of the overarching situation, which most people lack.

        Again, the Left doesn’t need kids. They have yours. That’s a key part of their overall plan.

        The US, as a Federal Republic is built on a number of pillars that can be seen as interlocking fields of fire if you really want to run with the gun analogy. One need not take them all out. One only need punch a hole big enough to get through and inside the wire. At that point the country is in deep fuckin’ trouble and that’s exactly where we are.

    • they do have a plan…and its been in effect for awhile now…who pays attention to school board elections?

    • you don’t have a right to feel safe…you do have a right to defend yourself…most people outside of their bubble know the difference…

  22. If that is their plan? I do not think it will go well for them. Yes, there are SOME on the Left who are touting guns and gun training. I am not worried about an “army” of Leftist/fascists, if our local trolls (dacian the stupid and MinorIQ) are representative – I am not afraid of an army of uneducated, feckless, irrational, incompetent halfwits.

    • “I am not afraid of an army of uneducated, feckless, irrational, incompetent halfwits“

      I must agree with you, and the fact is, many of these people were arrested on June 6 and are facing serious jail time so they’ll be off the streets for a while.

      It seems both the oath creepers and proud boiz have been pretty much neutered as a serious threat to democracy.

      • How many of them were ARMED, brainless troll??? And by what definition did that gang of cosplayers constitute an “insurrection” OR an “army”???

        Or are you just blowing smoke up your own arse, as usual, troll?? And to think I used to believe you were a halfwit . . . quarterwit would be a generous estimate.

      • No alien, it doesn’t exist.

        The oath creepers and proud boiz were your last, best chance to stop the Marxist revolution. You lost.

        Now they are political prisoners, being abused daily, and you “uneducated, feckless, irrational, incompetent halfwits” can do nothing to help them.

        • Hey, your words — not mine.

          ” … many of these people were arrested on June 6 … “

        • Alien, you were just snookered by the Fake Miner.

          Accept no substitutes! I am the original Miner49er, the one and only… and imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

        • And I am soooo flattered, I will ‘visit’ my chicken coup an extra time today.

          Miner ‘loves’ his chickens, y all should try it!

  23. Does not everybody in the USA have the absolute right [including Gun Freaks by the way]. to express an opinuon and persue it through the INDEPENDENT US JUDICIAL system and, if they see fit, to exact a ‘change in law’ without the fear of violent reprisal? Even the threat of CIVIL WAR? The fact is that to any sane outsider the Gun situation in the USA is ALREADY out of control compared to most of the civilised and developed world judging by the deaths per annum in the USA -15/20,000 and counting. I’ll let bYOU do the research on the number of TOTAL number ILLEGAL DEATHS in say CANADA, AUSRALIA, the UK and EUROPE on a per capita basis from all causes including GUN CRIME and compare them to the USA.
    I’m pretty damn sure you won’t though because most of the American gun freaks lack either the will to face truth or the brain power. Meanwhile I cannot personally name single person in the UK who would even consider that they would ever be threatened with a firearm. I was in the UK Armed Forces for around 20 years but a a civilian [and I’m now in my mid-80’s] I’ve never been threatened with any kind of weapon let alone a gun of any description. And I was both a Services Armourer and Small Arms Instructor

    • take out the black on black crime and the stats fall markedly…knife crime is on the rise in Britain…only saw one gun when I was in London, and that in the hands of a private guard…liked to kid those beefeaters in the tower if they were packing under that bizarre garb…never got a straight answer, but logical ..considering the amount of “ice” on display


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