By Michael Holderer
Scenario: You’re a real go-getter. You have a great job and you’re doing so well that your company has decided to promote you. Your new position will pay in the seven-figures range. There’s just one catch; in order for you to secure this salary, you must relocate to London for five years. There are many wonderful things about London: the British Museum, the London Symphony Orchestra and great beer. Unfortunately, British gun laws do not fall into that list . . .
Nevertheless, as a true-blooded American, you are determined to own a gun wherever you go. To that end you’re looking at two very high-end guns that are going to be commensurate with your new salary and London-friendly.
British gun laws prohibit civilian ownership of semi-automatic centerfire guns. Gun licenses are divided into numerous categories. The two most common categories are the Shotgun Certificate and the Firearms Certificate.
A Shotgun Certificate requires a visit to the local police station where you’ll be interviewed and asked for a reason for owning the gun. The Caesar Guerini would require minimal paperwork and you could use it for hunting. With the addition of a set of longer barrels, you could also use it for clays.
A Firearms Certificate requires a visit to the local police station where you will be interviewed and asked for a reason for owning the gun and you must provide two character references. The Blaser R8 would take more work to own, but you can easily swap barrels and the magazine/trigger group and go from .204 Ruger to 500 Jeffery on the same gun. You’d effectively be able to shoot everything from paper targets to Daleks with one gun license.
So which will it be?
Since I would be living in an urban environment I would opt for a shotgun.
I have 5 problems with black people.
1) I detest the term African-American, it is another divide to separate us, it is itself racist.
2) The community has been manipulated by racists to produce shitty human beings and few seem to recognize this and fight to overcome it.
3) I have known very few Blacks, Colored, or Negro people, what ever you wish to use to describe melanin content. I am apprehensive of being accused racist, and therefor nervous around Negros…
4) I hate being outed from conversation because I’m white and I would not understand. I would still want to talk about it and try to understand, maybe even find a solution.
5) They don’t get sunburn, as a note it sucks…. I would love to have a melanin induced permanent tan.
Recently I met a black man who is in my area refurbishing the oil pipeline, said he was the head guy for the group just up the road from my house. We got into a conversation because he saw me OC my 1911 and he CC, got weird for me when he said that he could not OC because he is black…
#5 is false.
If you are limited to one gun, it should be one that will make it easier to obtain your second gun.
Those making 7 figures typically don’t trifle themselves with the pesky laws imposed on peasants, slaves and other subjects. Those laws exist to ensure the elite are not troubled by the huddled masses over whom they should rightly rule. I’m sure at that level a proper deal could be struck to possess whatever you wanted, or to have an armed 24/7 bodyguard (paid for by the state of course) or both.
Find a new job.
Take a Third Option: unemployment and an address under a bridge abutment.
Money ain’t everything.Better to live in a cardboard box as a free man then the alternative.
Voice of reason:
I like my creature comforts. I like freedom. I like having a significant other.
Being an internet tough guy and claiming to throw off the yoke of modern life in order to stay “free” is fun until you realize….
Money buys freedom. Yes, I said it.
You want to fly to Mexico? $$$
You need to go to the Dr.? $$$
You want to own a vehicle? $$$
Want to date? $$$
Want to eat? $$$
You see where I am going with this.
Sure you /could/ just say screw it all, you would rather keep your guns than anything else and move under a bridge.
However, owning a gun is only a portion of freedom. Why in the world would you give up the rest of your freedom only to keep a tiny part of it, a part that could just as easily now be stolen from you by another vagrant?
True courage/love of freedom comes from the willingness to fight for your natural-given rights. Money isn’t everything is true, but you have the /ability/ to make 7+ figures a year, wouldn’t it be better if you could find a similar job in the US and donate heavily to 2nd amendment organizations? Or hell, you could hire your own lawyer to fight the good fight.
An option to move under a bridge in response to just about anything other than necessity is not respect-worthy in my book, especially if the person doing so has any children or close family.
Straight-pull FAL
yeah pretty much. lots of straight pull FAL, AK, and AR in the UK.
five years of a seven figure salary in London? you bet. I love London. even Camden.
Lol the big video game licensing probably pay more than the 200k weapon contract. …cant imagine thatd be a good choice
here’s the questions. Totally asinine if you ask me.
– What do you do to combat illegal gun trafficking and illegal gun crime?
Ask the ATF about Fast and Furious.
– Do you manufacturer and sell assault weapons for civilian use?
We sell Modern Sporting Rifles
– Do you agree not to sell certain models of firearms for civilian use?
FOPA requires it.
– Are you requiring your dealers to conduct background checks?
Lookup Brady Handgun Violence Protection Act.
– Do you fund research related to gun violence and smart gun technology?
I donated to Wikipedia yesterday.
– Will you commit to prohibiting your brand name from being used in violent video games?
Is this a video game?
Personally, I’d go for the shotgun – but only for the reason that I would tend to use it more…
I would go black market.
I’m sorry but I’ve seen this said a few times and I think it’s pretty stupid.
So as a professional living with a 7 figure salary, as an expat already under intense scrutiny by the government and the police of a foreign country, you’d go and buy illegal stuff that, if discovered you would force the system to throw the book at you?
Why?
Self defense? If you ever used the thing you’d be locked up for the rest of your natural life.
As a non-internet tough guy who may legitimately earn a higher income one day, I will never move to England or if I did, I’d use a baseball bat or crossbow etc to defend myself.
All these “Black Market! hurr hurr” posts on here are really making the AI look like a bunch of idiots.
As I understand it, suppressors are pretty easy to get in England. With that it mind I would get a 10/22 (rimfire semi-autos are still legal there, somehow) and put a can on it, just for plinking and fun, seeing as how serious defensive firearms beyond an extra long Joe Biden special can’t be owned there anyway.
I lived in London. Shotgun, hands down. There is nothing much to shoot with a rifle unless you drive 10 hours. And, you do not drive 10 hours unless you are silly American, you take the train. For sporting clays and “hunting” there are places outside the city if you can afford it.
Same answer I gave on a similar question – Rifle is the queen of the battlefield but the shotgun is the king of the castle – but even more appropriate since we are talking about the British.
With a 7 figure salary I would not waste my time. I would contract for 24/7 professional armed security. With that I would be secure not only at home, but wherever I went, since there is an awful lot of hooliganism and other violent crime on the streets of London. And I would make sure they had car to take me where I wanted to go as well. Even if it cost me $150k per year it would be money well spent, in my opinion.
Great work on all the tests – very interesting!
Blaser R8 Attaché in .243 Win, Grade 9 wood, no iron sights.
I’d do my best to hunt that country dry.
I went through the configurator to see a final price. It didn’t have one. Probably for the best.
With rifles, at least there’s no mag restrictions and moderators (suppressors) are no problem either (and commonplace.)
Short barrels on rifles are fine too as long as they stay over 12 inches (with overall length 24.)
Ruger Gunsite Scout perhaps or a custom 10/22? Lever gun? Remington Versa Max? All are available.
The problem with the test is that it doesn’t include bone. Hardball is still the best choice for the .380 auto because, it penetrates. In real life hardball ammo often tumbles and creates tremendous wound channels.
Thugs With Jugs, that is all they are, no more.
Shotgun. And I’d make a handgun in my basement.
“Where there’s smoke, there’s a Saab” – Click and Clack the Tappit Brothers
I think this is in reference to the sixties and early seventies models that were available with two stroke engines, including the sporty looking Sonnet.
Any firearms manufacturer that goes with these questions should get boycotted. That will get the message across real fast and kill the ability of other municipalities to do this.
I would refuse the job and remain a free citizen in the U.S.A.. There’s a reason why the original 13 colonies fought a revolt to establish themselves as a separate, sovereign and independent nation.
This.
Other than the accent, in my experience English women aren’t all that appealing either.
I am white living in a small nice, integrated, neighborhood in inner city Detroit with three adopted black children. I am a hard core libertarian conservative. My children all have experiences like Mafic on a regular basis. Many of the comments in this thread are quite offensive to me and I am sure would be to my children. I have a child in her twenties who lives in NYC and dresses in nice conservative Brooks Brothers clothes and is treated as suspicious in stores at times. She is a grad of an elite east coast school. Being judged on the basis of color is a huge problem. It is not restricted to whites judging blacks. For example both blacks and whites have made unfortunate comments to me about my relationships with my daughters and refuse to believe that they are my daughters. One thing I know is that politeness and diplomacy on both sides is a part of the answer. Even then it is difficult. I have a wonderful relationship with my daughters but sometimes we struggle in discussing the issues presented by Mafic.
Insert Swedish Chef here
The manufacturers should only sell bastardized, totally PC guns to this type of city – complete with bullet buttons or 5 round fixed mags, 20 lb triggers, thumbhole stocks – the works.
Go to the plumbing store and get stuff for a smg. Brits could suck my big fat red hot barrel.
You are all completely missing the long term here.
MDA gets all guns banned
Nobody has guns
Cops don’t need guns
Since if nobody is armed, cops won’t need firearms. Utopia at last!!!
Let them have Hi-Points!
Before you comment on what the paper printed and not on actual facts. Did you at all think of contacting Emma directly? Maybe the reason for ur stupid blogging instead of REAL RESEARCH and following up facts is why you are just a man with to much time copying and pasting an article then making up ur own assumptions about people or the truth. Get a real job and stop the lies spreading with ur crap and bias ranting.
Christ, what kind of sundowning-70+-year-olds are you dealing with? Even the 60-somethings know how to shoot their own vid to sell a piece…
Nathan, there are no illegal guns. There are only illegal laws that prohibit people from buying guns.
In Soviet Russia, gun holds YOU!
A better question is posed by the very fact that given you are a law abiding citizen who has purchased their firearms legally, nasty letters in the mail or goons at the door would happen at all.
i have 2 of them, bought them bout 2 yrs ago. use them everytime i go out and the are still unripped. the padding held up great as well
Clearly the 1200 yard limit is due to the gizmos, not the round. The round has been known to get the job done at well over 2000 meters/2200 yards.
I’ve promised myself a 338L someday, when I get good enough with .308 to justify it. I’ve even (tentatively) selected the Sako TRG-42. All I need is to use Vihtavouri powder in the handloads and it would be consistent Suomi awesomeness.
Good article. He called the bullshit for what it was, but still kept a mostly informational tone. If the world hadn’t gone nuts, that would be the kind of story on this I’d find in the paper, you know, if they still made those.
You guys want a chuckle, ask your congress critter to send you statistics that show the number of crimes prevented due to gun registration. The letter you will receive will make you warm on cold winter night
One-up:
I had the misfortune of sitting in on an impromptu Q&A with Debbie Stabenow. She was touring our plant (YAY!) and agreed to answer questions on condition that no media was present. I assume Senators don’t like to be put on the spot when cameras and tape recorders are rolling….
This happened shortly after Newtown. In Cadillac, MI. So, naturally, someone asked her how she felt about the slew of gun control rolling down the pike. Her exact words:
“I’m not in favor of more laws against guns. We need to worry about violence.”
I have been lied to by my Senator, to my face. Letters from them merely elicit a “meh.”
For clarity’s sake, I’m going to presume Wilson Arms is in no way related to Wilson Combat, which last I heard, was still located in Arkansas?
Like most folks, I would have to wonder what incentive, other than consolidation, they would have to move assets from Wisconsin to Connecticut? I sorely hope that if the state was involved that it wasn’t a deal with the devil, because that’s just what it would be.
Tom
“Because Wilson Arms deals in gun barrels rather than complete firearms or receivers, they’re not subject to many of the worst of the emotionally-based firearms regulations and laws passed in the Constitution State in the last few months.”
… but of course, that’s no guarantee that Connecticut won’t pass more dumb laws in the future that do directly impact what they produce.
They should have taken this opportunity to move to Wisconsin.
I definitely see the utility of this product and similar products like Frog Lube, but I just can’t get away from the fact that I can get a pound of wheel bearing grease from Autozone for less that $5. And, in all probabliliy, that tub will last me a lifetime.
Of course, it’s not a cleaner… but as a lube, it’s my go-to.
I predict their quotes will come from:
– Mattel toys (a special run)
– The BATFE
– Beppo the Dwarf. From a warehouse on the docks.
I have the glassbreaker version in my pocket right now. I love it so far; it just feels sturdy. I have a griptilian mini but I find it’s not as good.
Tom, another bearded white boy wearing a hoodie. Except that I’m fat and ugly we could be twins.
Nice fire truck you’re driving.
Now to serious business. I never want to see that yoga move again. Serious. Never again. And I’m out of eye bleach.