A man in SoCal was recently found to have 100 guns and some 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home [not shown], and an escape tunnel (for good measure). A post at 2ndamendment.com riffed on the man’s collection. Here’s their take . . . [NOTE: TTAG apologizes for posting this material without attribution in our initial version. We were under the impression that a tipster was sending us original material. If you could help us make amends by clicking here to go to 2ndamendment.com’s home page, we’d be much obliged. Again, we’re sorry for the mistake.]
In Arizona, . .. . he’d be called “an avid gun collector.”
In Texas, . .. . he’d be called “a novice gun collector.”
In Utah, . .. .he’d be called “moderately well prepared,” but they’d probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.
In Montana, . .. .he’d be called “The neighborhood ‘Go-To’ guy.”
In Idaho, . . . he’d be called “a likely gubernatorial candidate.”
And . . . in South Dakota, . . . he’d be called “an eligible bachelor.”
In soviet russia he’d be called comrade
In soviet russia, they would take all of his guns, execute him and share his guns equally among the government.
You make it sound a lot like New York.
A modest collection.
My missing best friend!
Someone with more discretionary income than I probably ever will…
That’s only an average of 1 case of ammo per gun. Seems like his gun collection got ahead of his ammo collection. Must have been that ammo shortage thing!
I’d imagine, just like most people i know with 20+ guns, he has a bunch of sks’ and AKs, a bunch of ARs, a cluster of 9mms, amd a gaggle of 45s, etc for a shared ammo pool.
I store a lot more 556 than I do 308 or even 9 mm or shotgun shells.
When I buy my next bolt gun In 6.5 cm I prolly will never have a 1000 rounds on hand.
Where as for any battle rifle/ar build I would want 5k per rifle.
Same with 44 mag for a pistol or any other odd loads one may shoot. Sure I might love that 454 catsul revolver but I’m not gonna prep 10k rounds for it( a few hundred sure).
Now 300 blackout if I do one will be a different story.
Sometimes it’s necessary!
Probably the only monster attack initiated by a case tumbler.
Mmm, mmm, MMM! Loves me some Reba!
Nice rec room!
Probably one of the only movies to even have a case tumbler and to actually use it. Also one of the only movies where someone actually checks for a loaded chamber even when expecting an empty gun.
Goes to show you how stupid and close minded politicians are when it comes to the people as a whole and our protection against the scum set out to do the every day citizen harm……. Yea I trust politicians with my life like I trust a shark not to attack…….. Jackasses
I have not heard this story as of yet. Is there a link to the original article?
…and you will not find the link. It started off has HUMOR and then it spiraled among the gun blogs and forums. It is a setup to a joke.
Nope – I posted several links from 2007 incident
Isn’t this a 4 year old post from another blog?
Would that 72 hour involuntary commitment make him a prohibited person? Granted, an escape tunnel is not a typical feature of a suburban home, but as long as he didn’t break any laws…
Hey, if I could afford an escape tunnel I’d have one too 😀 My neighbors might be upset if I popped up in their pool though…
I think you’d be more upset if your neighbors pool ended up in your escape tunnel.
I think it would add a Bond-esque quality to the escape tunnel. Either hold you breath or stage some scuba gear. Maybe the little pen deal.
And hope that Archimedes’ Principle is just a rumor if the pool is even a few inches higher than your house.
But if it had a steel iris valve and cyber sharks in the (now well-guarded by mind-controlled remote shark attack cyborgs) it could be a bond villain lair. 😀
Just call me Dr. OFWG.
It’s southern California. It’s almost 100% certain he broke at least a dozen laws digging that tunnel. He probably didn’t do an environmental impact study to make sure his tunnel didn’t disrupt the migration of an endangered vole, or any of a hundred other things that the California Department Of Making You Sad can think of to be a pain in your ass…
Some manage it.
If the tunnel had extended under the US/Mexican border he would have been good to go.
Yes, yes it would. And on top of them confiscating his property without due process of law, he’s forbidden to purchase, own, or even TOUCH a firearm for 5 years after. If he does, it’s an automatic 10 year felony.
Fortunately in California it’s easier for a felon to acquire firearms than going the legal route….
I have more omega wristwatches, pocket watches and clocks than I can count. I must be a nut too.
You should have seen me in my motorcycle phase.
Someone who had enough money to MOVE from commiefornia. There’s nice weather other place too…
Move from Cali? He’s gonna need a bigger truck.
Yet again glad I don’t live in Calif.
And here I thought ‘status crimes’ were against the law.
So, 100 guns is too much. The Constitution guarantees having arms (guns), but does not specify quantity. Thus, using the same logic, the First Amendment guarantees the freedom of a word, but saying more than one, certainly a hundred or more, will have you committed to a psychiatric ward. Welcome to Amerika!
Awesome. That’s what I’d call a So. Californian with 100 guns and 100k rounds of ammo. Awesome.
The best part of that photo is the li’l pink AR in the center of all those macho tough-guy guns. Because sometimes you gotta get in touch with your sensitive side.
Anyone got a link to that wall covering/built-in racks in the picture? I can use some of that yesterday.
Looks a lot like this:
Pretty sure the racks in the picture are made by Gallow Technologies. Very nice but can be a pricey setup.
So can 100 guns and 100K rounds of ammo.
I think I would call him a former California resident.
In NY, CA, CT, MA, NJ, he would be called “inmate.”
Or “right wing radical extremist Teaparty anti govt domestic terrorist.” Followed by “inmate” or “corpse.”
You forgot “racist misogynist”
You forgot “White separatist”. That’s a favorite term the left likes to throw out there to justify persecuting conservatives, especially those of us who love guns…
I would call him an investor.
Those firearms and ammunition will almost certainly increase in value over time as long they are in very-good/excellent condition and he maintains them. They could quite literally be his retirement nest egg.
By the way, if someone had that many firearms and ammunition and word ever got out, they would be a prime robbery target. And with that much in play, I can imagine such robbers would be the types to kill first and ask questions later. As such, I would want to have an escape tunnel as well.
A good start.
That’s what I’d call it as well.
I was thinking good role model.
All I can find about this is a series of nearly identical statements popping up on gun-related forums since 2007. No news stories. Something smells. Decent joke, but the source seems fishy.
I’d call him short one more gun and another 1K rounds of ammo, cuz don’t mattuh how much you got…you’re always short that amount.
Well i calls him MAD……with freedom. Git’ er done
This post was lifted, almost word-for-word, from a 2ndAmendmentRight.org post four years ago: http://2ndamendmentright.org/2011/04/10/california-man-put-under-72-hour-psychiatric-observation-for-owning-100-guns/
2007. Guy had an explosive fire at his house.
Nice. Why post current news when you can steal old posts from someone else? But hey, as long as it drives page views, right?
I was unaware of this. It was emailed to us at TTAG command. Editing post now to give credit and apologize.
Is that picture at the top of the story supposed to be of this man’s gun vault? It looks a lot like Battlefield Vegas’ vault:
The pink AR located below the Sten and left of the M16A1’s was what keyed me into this: http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/battlefield-vegas7.jpg
Using Google Images, I found the same picture as the one at the top of the TTAG article indicating it was a Gallow Technologies gun rack system installed at Battlefield Vegas: http://joyviewer.com/media/1056778118752023685_300541964
and another posted by Gallow Technologies themselves: http://picbi.com/photo/1056721913686791171_332847820
Is this the guy that was put under a 72-hour psychiatric eval because he owned too many guns and then because he was under the 72-hour psychiatric eval had all his guns confiscated?
In Texas he’d just be a neighbor. We’d probably talk about interconnecting tunnels as part of a neighborhood defense complex.
Or possibly discuss interlocking fields of fire?
A rich man.
… oh wait, in cali?
They probably call him criminal.
This is why the mental health angle for gun control is so dangerous.
They want to disarm anyone who is “mentally ill”…but they also think that anyone too well armed IS “mentally ill”!
Guess it’s a slow news day when 8 year old news items are resurrected. Like Brady, TTAG seems guilty of not letting facts get in the way of a good story in this instance.
75 – 185 pounds of black powder (different reports give different figures) and unregistered firearms. McKierman was removed on a psych hold because he attempted to reenter his burning house while ammo was exploding and for fighting firefighters & cops who were attempting to prevent his injury or death. “McKiernan, a retired machinist, Vietnam veteran and former Army captain.”
“Thomas McKiernan, 62, of Norco, admitted to possession of explosives, possession of an assault weapon and resisting arrest in a plea deal Tuesday that saved him from two additional assault-weapons possession charges.”
“We didn’t prosecute him for having a gun collection. We prosecuted him for storing volatile materials,” Deputy District Attorney Michael Mayman said.”
AR15 says he was facing 5 years, but released with time served, 3 years probation, and had to relinquish his firearms collection. He failed to register some after a law was passed in 2000. Wife had recently left him and McKiernan was 62 at time of incident.
My reaction if a neighbor? Sentence was about right. Someone that stores this much explosive material in a residential neighborhood under the described conditions puts my family in danger.
Google for others
No Robert , I believe in WV he would be called Mark S. and there would definitely be more than one escape tunnel and probably some booby traps .
i would call him successful.
A citizen of the United States?
I know a few people with collections like that.
I call them friends and relatives…
In california I think, one the police found out about it, he would be called a felon.
Welcome back to 2011.
2007 Chris. http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/03/local/me-ammo3
Hmm……I’d call him Leland Yee.
LOL – didn’t know our CA crooked politicians received attention outside of state.
Well, that one to be sure!! He exemplifies the “rules for thee, not for me” attitude that seems endemic to today’s politicians. And he’s a slap in the face to the anti-gunners nation wide! Take THAT, you freedom hating hacks. Your ranks are swelled with weenies and criminals.
The best part about the original post at 2ndamendmentright.org, is that the first comment from 2011 is from a guy named ‘mikeb302000’. I’d almost forgotten about that guy….
Another American who embraced the underground.
In Georgia…….he would be called Uncle Bubba
Man with all the violence those guns cause the bodies must have been littered around his house like Jonestown!
“Eligible bachelor” indeed. There’s no way this dude’s wife would let him buy all that. God bless ya buddy!
I wanted an escape tunnel in my closet as a kid because I thought it was cool. If I had the time and money I would probably make one because I still think escape tunnels are cool!
in S CA, now that he is known, I’d call him Fooked ( as the Irish say).
“What Do You Call A Southern Californian with 100 Guns and 100k Rounds of Ammo?”
One of about six sane people in that whole putrescent shithole of a state.
OK, let me see if I have this correct. 100 guns and a hundred thousand rounds of ammo. That must weigh a metric shit ton.
Unless his escape tunnel was big enough for an 18 wheeler, what’s the point?
Big enough for a guy who is 6’2″ is big enough.
If this situation was legit, then I would guess that a guy who has those particular guns would have a few more somewhere else. Live to fight another day.
The escape tunnel was only 8′ long, just long enough to escape the house through his basement I guess.
“What Do You Call A Southern Californian with 100 Guns and 100k Rounds of Ammo?”
The one person you won’t see in the new TV series, Fear The Walking Dead?
Selfish is what I’d call them. Spread the wealth. You know, it is better to give than to hoard.
Someone looking for a new home.
An inspiration to do likewise (Guns 60% there).
A little light on ammo?
Seriously, was any part of the collection illegal? This is like that guy in Simi Valley, CA a couple of years ago. They took everything but couldn’t tell us what was actually illegal about it. The news guys went door to door in the neighborhood but none of the neighbors would say anything bad about it. He must have been their “go-to” guy. Actually, this description rather fits his story. I’m now wondering of it’s the same story.
Thanks “For the rest of the story” GunGeek. It’s always good to know the whole truth. Still, in OK we would call him blessed and fortunate, assuming he kept his stuff stored safely. I’m guessing he ran back in the house attempting to save his “collection”? Lots of people run back in to their burning houses trying to save something they love. It is pretty easy to lose your head at times like that, especially considering the stress he was under. Who can blame the guy?
Tough to say if owner’s behavior was reasonable or his treatment was sensible based on news reports. Charging him with a 5150 (3 day psych hold) for struggling with firefighters and cops doesn’t seem so on the surface. Imagine a parent trying to rescue a child from a burning home. But they don’t get a 5150 charge.
Was he babbling incoherently while fighting (news coverage didn’t say)? His wife’s recent departure (she left him). Plus he agreed to psychiatric evaluations as part of the 3 year probation suggests that DA and judge had serious reservations about his balance.
The man was 62 at the time. Unfortunately, I’ve encountered younger people that are clearly suffering from some type of impairment with anger issues that grow worse over time. Friends and family abandon them as they begin to spiral down.
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